/prod/ - Music Production General

Bumping with some oldYe:

https://youtu.be/irb335ThCdo?t=130

Bump >>71781229 skip to 2:10 for some fresh moves

B-b-b-b-bump

Anybody familiar with the Glyn Johns or Recorderman method of recording drums?

Have any recommendations for condenser mics for drum overheads?

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https://clyp.it/cpd5qypb

should I continue this?
what can I improve on?

https://clyp.it/xmfbrtcg
most i could do without my daw crashing

>>71782927
Maybe add another melody on top of whats going on.
Sounds nice and futute garage-y through

>>71782959
https://clyp.it/exnhx30p
hope y'all brought marshmallows cuz dis bangers fire
For real though, what should I change on it?

god these threads are garbage

>>71783095
To me, the piano fill sounds horribly out of time and the melodic wood block at the start sounds kinda cheap
IMO

>>71783184
If your not going to explain, please do remove yourself from this thread you negative nancy

are most vst .dll portable? can i just cut it up and paste it into another computer? obviously it'll ask me for a serial and such, but most often, do they install anything other than that .dll?

>>71783261
if you had to run an installer, probably not

if you didn't though, then you might be able to just copy the dll

https://clyp.it/wv1fp3u2

Made a beat. Aiming for knxledge/dilla style, any criticism/advice is welcome.

>>71783261
on windows you might need to export your registry .reg files also

>>71783205
thanks the feedback anon. I always the the opposite. block being out of time and piano sounding cheap. I'll try to tweak them. maybe add chords to the piano

do any of you guys play instruments?

>>71783095
>https://clyp.it/exnhx30p
I don't really like trap, but I thought the piano was a nice touch, strings are very nice also. They work surprisingly well with the whole thing.

Drums could do with the occasional ghost note (just leave out a kick every 4 or 8 bars) to make it sound a little less computer-y. Also the bass is annoying but that might just be me.

>>71783332
bumpy

>>71783095
IMO you should work on your drum rhythms & pitch shift your percussion instruments.

>>71782959
>https://clyp.it/xmfbrtcg
Not sure what you were going for, but it's a pretty good base for a track. Needs more instruments or something to make it more interesting, I liked the drums and the sound that plays after the kick is also really nice.

>>71783406
do you make beats?

https://clyp.it/nabohrja

Just uploaded. I'm aware of how rough this is,
but I'd still appreciate a bit of feedback.

>>71783417
thanks anon. I originally started with less 808 hits. I'll use less of them, even I thought it was too much. same with the snare and clap.
>>71783441
>pitch shift your percussion
that's good idea man. I would've never thought of that. I'll keep practicing rhythm to make it bouncy.

>>71782927
fire up some heavy breakbeats 'n' chop em in maybe?

or add some more elements like some obscure ass sample (chopped) or a synth

finish this track dude, this has potential!

https://clyp.it/mtjgt5uz

one i made last night
post thoughts; positive and negative

>>71782927
I agree with >>71783771 !
The percussion is crisp, and the bass really grounds the airy synths and sample. Do you see this project moving in any particular direction?

https://clyp.it/atmbn2v5

been working on this for a while
appreciate all feedback

>>71783999
I love the percussive clarity.
It actually melded extremely well with the melancholic tone. I also enjoyed the way you edited your banjo and how well they paired with the synths and piano. However, I'd personally add give the low-end a bit more weight; I think that'd really round out the entire piece.

>>71784283
I shall do that.
Glad you like it!

>>71783377
I play drums

>>71783295
>>71783364
alright thanks. ill try copying them to another computer and see how it goes one of these days

Thoughts/comments on babby's first beat pls. Inspired by knxledge/dilla. https://clyp.it/wv1fp3u2

>>71783999
Beautiful track, really great work. Instrument selection is fantastic, and the progression through the piece is really nice too - I particularly liked the synths and piano.

I don't know anything about composing music so I won't try to give you any advice other than keep it up!

Somebody, anybody. please gib feedbacks
https://clyp.it/wv1fp3u2

>>71783332
this was really, really good. curious of your samples? kick sounds great

>>71783377
I also play the drums

>>71783377
guitar, bass, drums, keyboard, and sing.

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What is /prod/'s opinion on the bastl kastle?

>>71787329
Thank you!! I'm really glad somebody liked it. The drums are sampled from D'Angelo's 'Voodoo' album, and I applied a sidechain compressor on the kick - not sure exactly how it works but it makes it sound punchier. I also EQ'd it slightly to take out some of the high end, I can upload and post a link to the individual drum sounds if you want. Everything else is sampled from Gil Scot-Heron's song 'Pieces of a Man'

>>71787621
Get

>>71787621
way too simple for me desu, needs more controls and less nonsense. but im sure you can make some fun sounds on it

Anywhere to get free drum samples?

do any of yall have an op-1 because i am on the fucking verge of buying it and i keep seing mixed opinions

>>71788100
there are way better ways to spend almost a grand, anon. You'll get way better capabilities out of a digital 8 track for $99 and a minilogue + volca beats.
but none of the portability or hipster factor

>>71788087
what kind of drums are you looking for

>>71788152

industrial/techno stuff

>>71788411
rutracker if you are ok with torrenting they have tons of sample packs

>>71788411
musicradar a good place to start, but honestly anywhere if we're talking techno.

https://clyp.it/urpkrb0b
I've never made house(?) before how is it

>>71788492
>>71788526

thanks ill look into it

What should I do if all I want to do is make music but there's no scene where I live and none of my friends play any instruments? I know it sounds cliche but I can't really imagine myself doing anything other than making music.

>>71788633
how about
make
music

>>71788654
I'd like to but all I can do is play guitar and sing. I also don't really know any theory at all which hinders my ability to make good music but I do plan on taking guitar lessons again with a focus on actually learning how to play, not just play chords and read tabs.

>>71788684
learn some theory
buy some books
also if you can play guitar & sing you can just do what every other singer songwriter ever did

hi people, I want to bu a moog sub 37, should I wait till summer NAMM too see if they came up with new shit?

just bought a monthly sub for Max 7 any oneuse the program? I am still a beginner. Waiting for my email so I can start practicing. Im so anxious.

>>71788633
bro, this is the age of the internet and in-the-box music production. get a DAW, start making music and put your shit out online

>>71782550
>Recorderman method

This is the way I always used to record drums at demo stage, where the idea was to get the song down before it got fucked about with and diluted by committee politics, so that it was more an instinctual thing and more improvisational.

Trouble is that some drums don't work so well with so much of the room sound - kicks especially - and it's those drum sounds that people most comment on when listening back to what they've been told are finished recordings.

The technique has its place, I have no argument against that, but room sound for me is an addition to close-miking and not an alternative and as such I'd be apt to go for the best non-coloured mic you can get to capture the room - 414s if they're in the budget.

>>71788684
Learn about intervals and start learning how your favorite songs work. Come up with your own notions about them.

Working on this:
https://clyp.it/z04ylw33

Hiphop/trap

>>71790261
Dude this shit just screams originality! How is it that you trap producers are always coming up with new ways to innovate? I've never heard anything like this

>>71790261
Sweet baby jesus this badass

>>71788562
this is awesome man. I think you need to take a look at the chords around the minute mark they seem out of place to me

>>71788562
Very nice, would listen to if finished

>>71790402
Thank you really appreciate the kind words, I personally like to think outside of the box stand out from the rest, Having this in mind i push boundaries + Not having a safe space and try to make something different i'm getting pretty good at it after 3 years of forming my "sound/style". Staying motivated is a huge part of it. Most internet producers got this mindset at first but then they see where the money is which is mainstream Beats. I'm preparing for the next generation of music/beats at the same time i make some mainstream sounding beats.

>>71790261
One of my more mainstream beats
https://clyp.it/lri1ydwc

>>71790966
>https://clyp.it/z04ylw33
Also got this one on hold will finish it after the nocturnal one, Alright i'm done sharing gonna start listening through the thread https://clyp.it/0jbgpgcr

Trap/hiphop guy here
>>71783095
Kick is way to loud also eq out that ugly distortion on that kick, instruments are to low, also your off beat on that mouth pop sounding thing you put in there. Cords are alright gives that horror feel to the beat. all in all you gotta grind a lot more before you say "dis bangers fire
For real though"

>>71783815
I like the atmosphere, Not sure if i like the 808 as a bass would go with something else like a sub bass maybe, That is if you are going with this feel i believe just going for a orchestra score with the cords you got would be dope.

>>71783999
I dig this one, Not so fond of the snare buildup but when it comes in with the vocal it sounds nice the spooky bassline is sexy af.

>>71791575
"also your off beat on that mouth pop sounding thing you put in there make it not off beat" is what i was trying to say here

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https://clyp.it/kwuvsh3p

r8 pls

>>71791575
Yeah i wrote the piano then just built every else around it
Yeah i might change up the snare cause its the same sample the whole way through

Trap/hiphop guy here
>>71792710
Love shit like this, sounds great overall.
8/10 since its short

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>>71793180
it'll be longer soon don't worry

>>71792710
you better telepathically let me know when this is released cause other wise im gonna be sad

Who are some good lyricists I can study?

>>71793457
Honestly, just read books. This will slowly increase your vocab and english / language skills and will allow you to write better lyrics when your in a creative mood

>>71793488
I don't know why but it's become increasingly difficult for me to actually read books. The last time I read an entire book was a few years ago when my power went out. My vocabulary is pretty decent I would say. ELA is actually my strongest subject. I just have a terrible attention span.

>>71792710
The harp is muddy

>>71793508
hmm i reckon its fairly dependent upon what mood your in, most of the time, from my experience, im not in the mood for doing music stuff / writing lyrics but all of a sudden you find yourself doing it and you just gotta go with it.
Its almost impossible to be able to do it consistently without your quality going down

https://clyp.it/devtin2t

Folk thing with a baritone vocal. How's my mixing?

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https://theproaudiofiles.com/most-popular-mixing-articles-of-2016/

>>71795171
Here's a video one

https://theproaudiofiles.com/20-most-popular-mixing-tutorials-of-2016/

Should I look to build a PC for music production or just buy a good laptop such as an XPS or Spectre?
Starting out doing solo stuff but am in a band also. Doubt I will be playing live in the near future, however I am more inclined to the portability of a laptop. Any suggestions?
DAW= Ableton

>>71795899
PC will be cheaper, laptop will have portability.
DESU, you don't need a super computer unless you're using big sample libraries or some VSTi like Diva or Serum which can eat a lot of cpu.
Then again, the fastest the better since you can have as many plugin instances as possible.
Oh and if you're using ableton something with a good screen resolution is desirable from my personal experience

>>71796400
oh and I would get a laptop myself just for being able to compose anytime anywhere I want

>>71783377
I play the macbook

:^)

>>71795899
it's not very demanding. you just want 8gb of ram (or more) and a dece CPU. things to avoid are fan noise (or any loud noise) and instability (shutdowns or errors due to OS, faulty batteries or hard drives, overheating, etc.)
laptop is way more practical unless you're looking to do studio work strictly, keeping the OS and DAW in an SSD obviously makes for a smoother experience and backing stuff up in an external hard drive will save you more time and prevent more frustration than you probably think

https://clyp.it/jc04mcwb

critique before its gone

>>71782927
like it a lot, hard as fuck

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If I spend all summer teaching myself production will that give me enough time to get the basics down?

>>71798914
it's enough time to get comfortable with your daw/gear (if you have any), but learning to use it all skillfully will take more time

>>71798985
>get comfortable with your daw/gear
That's what I was hoping

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>get better at mixing with every mix
>immediately look back at old mixes and think they're shit
>scared I'm shit now but just don't realize it yet

>>71799094
Of course you're shit. Just be thankful you're making progress.

I tried a jazz cover of the Creed / Rocky theme
https://clyp.it/ns3w3d32
can I do anything to make it sound more "authentic"

>>71799094
This so much. I've been recording and mixing for locals over premade beats just so I can get more practice at it. When I hear my old mixes, I physically cringe.

Would I be better off with a hard synth or a midi controller?

>>71800323
MIDI controller desu

>>71800323
Lots of hardware synth keyboards send MIDI thru USB (and they pretty much all do thru the MIDI port). Often they'll send MIDI CCs as well.

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https://soundcloud.com/deniskaldesnoen/den-iskalde-snoen-morning-mist

>dark ambient

I feel like this could become the skeleton for something more complicated

https://clyp.it/vjvk40la

>>71801066
it's not in the op this time, but people here generally frown on self-promotion

also your album cover font is terrible

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Should I have the second round in this breakbeat or just keep the first one? Not sure if i spoil it by having the second time in there

>>71790729
you're fucking retarded I was being facetious your music is atrocious and you should kill yourself

anyone ever tried using an autotune vst in a live setting? how can i reduce the lag apart from lowering my daw's buffer size?

>>71802912
>OMG CAN U BUHLEEV PPL MAEK MUSIC I DONT LIEK???

My diy home recording station tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb-lVpok-vc

>>71803182
When you can find me some reputable and intelligent adult musicians that wholeheartedly respect the trap music industry, I'll try and open up to it. Until then, I can side with the droves of people who consider it the embodiment of vacuous unimaginative noise.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW2Uo3y7vlI

my fav thing in the world is music production but i am limited in knowledge and have always had really shitty gear so my labour is trying to make the most out of it. and get them to sound as good as possible. FL studio on a shitty laptop i only had the ability to save stuff for about 5 months

and yes im a show off cunt by nature

>>71803864
read the OP. We use anonymous uploaders like clyp.it here to share music for critique. These threads are not meant for self-promotion, rather production help and discourse

>>71804046

sorry. ur right i didnt read the OP

>>71788562
where is that sample from at the end

>>71803364
>SPOONFEED ME MY IDOLS

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Absolute newbie here.
Just an hour ago, for the first time, I opened up the trial version of Ableton Live. After a while of looking through tutorials on Youtube, I just want to die.

This is all so overwhelming. All I wanted to do is make sample based stuff like Person Pitch or like early playful hip-hop Avalanches, man. Most "beginner" sampling tutorials online already assume you know so much.
Any tips or advice in general you'd give to a complete dumbass beginner? How'd you guys get off the ground?

>>71804179
I'm not really sure what to take from this post or what you're implying. Making your text capitalized and green doesn't make you funny or correct, it just makes you look new.

>>71803364
not the guy you're having a conversation with (and it's obvious your first post wasn't honest and that whole interaction was pretty funny to me)
but wow what a fucking sheep drone you are haha. ever tried thinking for yourself? well, i for one understand trap music doesn't have a good rep, that's quite obvious, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating the sound of it and looking for artists that are interesting. trap just simply appeals to me in a way that's not communicative. i don't need "reputable" and "intelligent" "adult"s to tell me what's good and what's not. for instance, i think rock music is shit but at the same time there's a lot of music i like that's considered to fall under the rock category i guess.

>>71804240
>Hi my name is *insert experienced producer* and I got amazing at my craft in a matter of a few hours
a sentence no human has ever uttered. I mean what are you expecting to hear dude? Anything worth doing will not be easy.

>>71804240
Ive been using fl for like 15 months and im still shit.
It takes time and you just gotta suck it up if you really want to use the daw and get something out of it

>>71803364
Not OP.
Sounds like your just being a cunt and not really forming your own opinion.
Sure trap is easy to whip up something quick but like anything it can be interesting and innovative if you approach it like any other genre and put in effort

>>71804401
I was drawing a comparison to his initial idea of myself not being able to handle someone liking a certain genre that inversely I don't. I fully understand there will always be brainless consumers to swallow up stale music, but that doesn't make it any better, if anything that makes it worse. The point I made was an appeal to the others like myself that are capable of widening our lens a little farther than just our own lifetime, and are able to see these movements as prime examples of music as a whole degenerating. Yes I am appealing to ___, yes it is a fallacy, no I do not give a fuck my argument is flimsy.

>appreciating the sound of it
sound? You mean a looped of a phased/flanged rhodes or bell sample, the same old dry drum pack, and a distorted sine bass? That's not "a sound," that's the template of one song being made over and over and over again.

>>71804240
try to make a track everyday with what you learn on youtube senpai

that worked out for me, im jamie xx btw

>>71804817
it's just like when people say that all techno sounds the same and boring
(it's also just like when some white europeans/americans say all chinese people look the same)
it's like with any other genre. once you get into it, you understand the spectrum of variety

>>71805594
>it's like with any other genre. once you get into it, you understand the spectrum of variety
>I like this turd more because it was polished with a different color than this one

>>71805658
>and the twisted finally comes into the light

>>71804240
Lock yourself in a room doing 5 beats a day for 3 summers

If I'm only working with VSTs (not recording real instruments, ever), what should I read on?

I'm trying to make my compositions sound less cheap, but I don't really know where to start for production.

>>71804240
Just drag the song you want to sample into an audio track. Chop it up. Add a drum beat and synths.

Also you'll probably want to be working in arrangement view.

>>71799131
Can't say much on the composition, but adding some very subtle open air will make it sound a bit more natural. Some white noise mixed so low you can't pick up on it with a LP filter adjusted to taste will make it sound a bit more like a natural recording. Alternatively, mixing in some quiet 7.5 or 15 IPS tape noise sidechained lightly to your bass and snare will produce a really nice warm sound that sounds like it was recorded off of a 50s-60s era master
>>71801466
Sounds good, particularly in the last 3/4th. I would try cycling some fx chains on the bass or adding some subtle rhythmic modulation, because it gets a bit too repetitive after the first 8 bars or so. If you decide to add more elements, mixing the bass lower and adding some space between your notes with a quicker attack will give the rest of it more room to breathe
>>71802137
> Not sure if i spoil it by having the second time in there
Nah, there's enough variation in the beat that it works well. Great job on those stuttery cuts too. The track is a bit frequency sparse, especially around the mid-lows, but that can work well if you get enough movement in the frequencies surrounding it

Posted a WIP of this before, finally got around to finishing it. Not really happy with it desu, particularly the 1st half, but any critique before I move on?
https://clyp.it/rwg5i5jb

>>71806926
Shieet you should be happy with it cause that is so awesome, first have is fine just having the steps of progression that youve got going on

>>71806406
Get kontakt

>>71806406
A big part of making less fake/thin/cheesy instruments is effects. Never put anything down dry. It is really easy to overdo it, and it takes time to learn how to do so tastefully, but most of the time what separates a rich pleasant synth from a cheap one is the use of effects. Even preset sounds that come with your DAW can sound great if you treat it right.

>>71806926
can't come up with any critiques this sounds great though

https://clyp.it/mrp1kcmp

thoughts about this?
I hope/think this is ready for mastering.

>>71807817
the fadeout at the end is a tad too quick for my taste and in the first couple of loops there's some loud crackle on the hard right that gets really obnoxious when it repeats without being obstructed by the other layers
other than that great job, great tune

>>71808042
Thanks dude, I will fix those things.

>>71788562
>>71790529
>>71790611
thanks I just did some edits on it and honestly I have no clue where this is going
https://clyp.it/cdexi4hl

>>71804176
James Asher Bruton BRI 12

>>71808230
glad to help, man
got a mastering place at hand already for that tune?

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>>71781108
https://clyp.it/e13em40y

How do I make this sound better? Haven't touched the drum patterns too much, that's the next step after getting the outline of the song.

I'm using an MS-20 and a Access Virus for all the synths.

>>71788633
Hold your friends and gunpoint and make them play

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Please, can anyone help me here? I don't know the first thing about mastering. I'm using a 2:1 compressor, a light limiter and it's still not loud enough

https://clyp.it/1nichfza

>>71808764
good. i really missed that vinyl pop on the right!
Yeah, the label I'm releasing the EP on is going to take care of mastering, luckily! I've released on there before and they have a great engineer.

The release after this EP is going to be mastered by friggin Shawn Hatfield. That guy is a master.

>>71809083
that's super neat. gotta keep my eyes open for your stuff then. what's the date for the ep?

>>71808899
if this is on fl, and the tracks are imported / wavs / mp3's what have you, try normalizing the tracks

is a perfect fifth always the fifth note in the scale

>>71803864

this is tite

>>71809284
I'm on LMMS (yeah I know), and I tried slapping some EQ on the tracks, but it's as if there's something with the guitar soundfonts or maybe even the drums that makes it so I can't raise the volume beyond a certain point in audacity without clipping. I don't even know, but LMMS doesn't have a normalizing function anyway.

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how does this sound?
https://clyp.it/senlmd4b

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https://clyp.it/2pypbjbv
>r&b
>trap
>work in progress
all feedback appreciated

>>71809335
A perfect 5th is an interval of 7 semitones. Not neccessarily the 5th note of a scale, the 5th note of the locrian mode for example is a diminished 5th/tritone/whatever you want to call it.

>>71809430
pretty chill, but it seems dull and unbalanced since there's no high frequency content at all
go for some really quite shakers or hats or even just some chopped and shaped noise to give it some air
also make a song out of it

>>71809424
idk then dude, you might have to do some exterior digging on the web outside of /mu/

>>71806926
fucking great, do you have a soundcloud/bandcamp

>>71796400
>>71797300

Thanks for the feedback

>>71807437
>>71807614
>>71809939
Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. I don't have a soundcloud or bandcamp, I've only just gotten to the point where I think any of it is even listenable after a few years of deleting or never touching finished tracks. I have some label connections though, so I'm going to be making stuff specifically for an album release from here on out.

Here's something I make with
Yamaha Pacifia
Loop Station RC1
recording with my cellphone.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lfRWqJC1Ex

>synth patch didn't save with the project
are you actuaully kidding me
like are you fucking JOKING right now you stupid fucking niggers
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF IT'S A THIRD PARTY VST. I DON'T CARE HOW FUCKING DIFFICULT IT IS, I WANT MY SHIT DOUBLE, TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE CHECKED AND SAFEGUARDED SO THAT THIS CNANOT POSSIBLY HAPPEN. MUSIC IS HARD ENOUGH TO MAKE WITHOUT A PATCH THAT WAS THE CORE OF MY TRACK AND I SPENT 30 MINS WORKING ON DISAPPEARING

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>>71811111

>>71811111
I mean there's still room for music preservation in the world... it's a fun hobby...

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How do you make that Boards of Canada synth sound? It's some kind of rotary speaker like a Leslie, also some chorus and delay. And it's always slightly out of tune with the song like an old music box. But what type signal/ synth is it?

>>71811111
Plus, isn't it just pleasant, going to the record store... looking at all the art, front and back... holding the record... seeing what everybody else is listening to.... watching the store.... It's like blockbuster..... is Redbox really a replacement for the joy that was blockbuster? It's just nowhere near as fun.

>>71811185
neural networks can beat captcha now i see

>>71811185
Maybe I'm just old and stupid though, whatever

https://soundcloud.com/dopplerlives/sets/lost-in-the-ring-check-link-in-description

new ep i just put out

>>71811111
Its the VSTs fault not the DAWs.

https://clyp.it/zwj5ekmc
updated version of this >>71809430
>boom bap
>jazzy
>>71809535
I tried fixing that, how did it turn out?

>>71809141
that's great dude.
release date is not defined yet, but in coming months. my artist name is lucinate, i have a soundcloud, the release will be shared on there as well. (on that soundcloud is a lot of not so great stuff though, honestly, I save all the best stuff for releases!)

>>71811499
much better, i love that sax

>>71808776
Anyone?

>>71789527
Thanks mate, I'll keep a lot of that in mind. 414's aren't in the budget unfortunately, but I might rent some down the road. Ending up getting an Oktava Mk-012 as a drum overhead, I'll be using an AKG Perception 220 as the side fill, and then an Sm57 for snare and D112 for kick. Maybe I'll post some recordings once it's all here.

>>71811184
A lot of SH-101 for the monophonic sounds I think. I don't think they use particularly expensive gear on the earlier albums at least. I'm trying to find this one good interview they did where they went kind of in depth on it.

From what I can remember, they talked about sampling actual instruments like a flute or something, bouncing it back and forth between various tape decks until it sounded really weird, and then loading that into a sampler and playing it like a synth. I wish i could find the interview.

Iris 2 is soooooo nice for pads

>>71812063
Sounds cool. I do notice some flute like sounds in Campfire Headphase

>>71804817
>others like myself that are capable of widening our lens a little farther than just our own lifetime, and are able to see these movements as prime examples of music as a whole degenerating
i agree! you might say that fine gentlemen like you and i were born in the wrong generation

>>71781108
How do i make 8bit remixes? What program do i need to make stuff like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWL1ZMjJrc4

>>71813033
bump

>>71811819
To me, your melodies dont really sound like they work together.
I'd get a second opinion, as this is off my ear and not from a theory viewpoint

>>71809512
cool sounds dude especially the intro is it a sample if not how'd you make it?

https://clyp.it/cu4bder2

here's something I just finished all types of feedback appreciated mixing sound design etc...

>tfw no noise proof room to sing in and not be laughed at by family

so i have ableton and i can make beats but thats it. i play classical piano and use to be a drummer. how can this help me? can it? i have no idea how to use ableton and i really want to make stuff. ive been watching some tutorials but its not doing much for me yet

>>71804879
this, im kanye btw

>>71815634
>i play classical piano and use to be a drummer. how can this help me?
well considering keyboard and drum pad are the two most common midi controller types, i'd say it gives you an advantage

>sing to self and hum new tunes all the time
>finally get the will to open up my DAW
>no ideas
every time

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anyone use cassette?

>>71816591
I did for awhile, got a nice 414 MKII, but I've never been able to get a good sound out of it. Instead of that nice tape saturation and tape noise I'd just have a muddy recording with all the highs removed. I'm sure there was something I was doing wrong, but there's virtually no good tutorials on tape decks.

>>71816229
You gotta be in the mood maaaaan

>>71815390
Just do it anyway, you won't regret it

>>71816661
>>71816591
Fucking cringe
There's a reason we don't use tape and cassette recording anymore

I've only been at it for about 2 or so months now and I've been working on this for the past week or so. This is the first track I've ever done like this

https://clyp.it/4pogascj

I've showed my friends and they said it was pretty good. I think it still needs some work, what do you guys think?

Also what are some good synth VSTs you guys use? I've only been using Spire and Serum atm

>>71817183
Maybe bandpass the clap but that's just preference and change up the hi hats once in a while, other than that it sounds chill and dreamy
>sylenth1
>kontakt stuff
>massive

https://clyp.it/zx0vwuhy
Kill me.

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Need some direction for this little thing, don't know what to do with it:

https://clyp.it/i00wcvsn

Thoughts appreciated.

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yoo mu this one's a bit weird but I quite like it, what you sayin;?

https://clyp.it/4bobovi2

>>71817183
Main synth sounds great. Bad choice of drum samples. Add a bass line.

>>71817183
Also, for four-to-the-floor house beats, should always sidechain the kick to the snare.

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>>71808776
>aggressive industrial sounding music
>how do I make this sound better

>>71807817
Yo dude this is fantastic. Nothing I could suggest to improve it. Arrangement is great. Mix is great. Get this shit mastered.

>>71819673
>sidechain the kick to the snare
what? is this a thing people do?

What's the secret to making good music?

>>71820138
Follow your heart.

Practice everyday.

Be lucky.

>>71817183
that's a great synth. did you make it with spire or serum? i'm not really familiar with either

>>71820138
a kazoo

>>71801785
Remember to use:
>clyp.it for WIPs
>soundcloud for completed tracks

fuck off

>>71811184
>How do you make that Boards of Canada synth sound?
synth, triangle wave, slow lfo on pitch (that's what makes it sound like BOC), reverb, delay

>>71816661
clean the tape heads (the silver things inside) with alcohol

>>71820206
It's a sequencer I found in Serum

>>71819673
>said no house producer ever

Is this retarded or is it worth expanding on?
https://clyp.it/ye5j023h

>>71821058
cringe

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just posting soundloud link to ask for tips to STOP THE FUCKER CLIPPING

unmixed yes, but the fucker doesn't clip and was uploaded lossless?!

am i just a fuckin noob that should work hard on the mixdown?

https://soundcloud.com/dank-stank/dank-stank-sick

>>71821472
leave about a dB headroom for the lossy encoders not to fuck up
intersample peaks ruin any encoder's day and cause clipping

>>71821506
man, I left 1db max and some sections are 3db headroom, still she distorts.

I think I may be not side chaining enough things to my kick so it's not clear enough, which seems to bring up some encoding error hat I can;t seem to find any information about

>>71821577
1 db min, even

>>71821506
do you think it could be something to do with the attack/release/ahead of my limiter?

>>71821587
>1 db min, even
what?
>do you think it could be something to do with the attack/release/ahead of my limiter?
i dunno, what are they?

>>71782959
on the kind on pad sound thingy you did: Center it (it's too much to the right) and then put on a relatively slow (1/4 or 1/6) LFO and pan it left to right with that by like 50% in each direction.

also sidechain the bass with your kick, else it get's messy

>>71821602
>what?
I said max headroom was 1db but I meant minimum was sorry

>i dunno, what are they?
10ms atttack, 400ms release, 5s ahead (less ahead didn't make a difference)

I mean it sounded better rendered 128kps send over fucking facebook messenger as a voice clip than is does on soundloud?!
Is their encoding really just that bad??
or am I just fucking missing something here

>>71821741
>5s

I meant 5ms but you get me

>>71819528
I fucking love it, do you have a bandcamp or a soundcloud?

>>71820927
>>71819673
>>71820122

You can add extra undertones to a snare that has no bass underneath it but nobody really bother to do that because it's pretty cooked

>>71821741
yes, these settings will distort when pushed hard, but you'll hear that right in the DAW and in a wav bounce so I guess it's not the distortion you mean

I am looking for a hardware analog synth, does polyphony really matter?

>>71821936
only if you want to play chords

>>71821867
>yes, these settings will distort when pushed hard
what is wrong about them??
i feel like the release is wrong, but yes yu're right it's not distorting in the DAW so it's really fucking confusing me

>>71821936
if you want to play more than one note at a time, yes....

>>71821965
I can understand this, it seems those moogish synths sound fat enough with just one note, so what are chords used for in synth?

>>71821992
if you are a synth nerd and have a lot of time you can record a monophonic synth you like and layer notes to suit, it really depends on what you are trying to achieve

>>71821992
strings, pads and other keys type sounds

>>71821936
not actually, if you use midi for example to trigger it you can just record your stuff multiple times, so if a chord has 4 notes you record the synth four times each time with a different note and then you just add them together in editing (this also gives you amazing control over the sound so eqing is fun, and if you want to process it together just use groups)

>>71822024
you are definitely a synth nerd haha I can't bring myself to farm goats that hard!

Kudos to you though!

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https://clyp.it/avgf1ehe

Okay now I've got the intro version of the melody and the super loud reprise, now I just gotta put something inbetween.

>>71821983
nothing wrong, it's absolutely legit
but an attack that long will absolutely clip very fast transients, a thing you need to do to create a certain loudness

>>71822039
thanks dad, actually an even more cancerous breed of synth nerd, modular synth nerd (I love working with computers and digital oscillators tho so I am not too autistic)

Are roland high end synths(like system8) any good?

>>71822084
the studio I rent had a standard KORG modular and the fucker does my head in hahaha especially the fact that it only has a god damn standard AUX out like.. wtf guy obviously I want more than that! 1.5mm cables become so unstable at the best of times!
Which can be super rad and unexpected when it comes to distortion but cmon mang not for output!?

Also the reason why anything VOLCA is unusable in a scenarios that isn't just fucking with a little synth with some beers and some mates - IMO

>>71821936
you guy, buy no volca

>>71822048
motherfuckers told me my attack time was too short and to make it 10ms, i'm going with my gut more fuck it

>>71809512
How long have you been doing this? I'm extremely novice at production and this is kind of what I want to make (maybe less trap, more hiphop/glitch-hop).

Love the liquid-ness on that track.

>>71822138
Not really, the deepmind 12 is cheaper and analog

>>71822138
my band mate has the new GAIA SH-01 101 remake and my god, i love that thing. Havent had the chance to run it into a DAW yet but just playing with the thing is enough for me to want to get one

Not modular in the traditional sense but plenty enough modulation options for my likings

>>71822138
not really, for that price you can go into eurorack retard mode or you could buy many more versatile synths like a minibrute or make noise 0coast or other neat little things that will probably be much more fun to play with, unless you really really like the sound of it. (shout out to the mother 32 aswell)

>>71822170
you set it the way it sounds right
soundcloud adding extra distortion on top is a whole different story and probably not related to your limiter settings

>>71822184
the gaia is a crappy synth
nice interface tho

>>71822170
>>71822084
modulation* not distortion

>>71822170
yeah having 1 aux out is stupid, also a lot of the time that shit is like 10 volts which is waaaay to hot for an audio card so you need to turn it down, there are modules like the ES-3 and ES-6 which give you the possibility to have DC coupled (positive and negative voltage) out to optical so you can have 8in and 8out, it's really dank

>>71822186
b-but can you have polyphony on a 1000buckish eurorack?

>>71822231
no for 1000 buck you can make analog farts

>>71822138
that's more of a gigging VA synth
dont bother if you are just going to use it for recording

>>71822222
Checked

>>71822223
we got some modded out volca once (I forget which) with midi in and out and a 3.5mm instead of 1.5 but it still sucked in terms of a nice level output.

We were devastated that our cooked plans couldnt be made into reality, but the mods meant we could sell it for more than we paid so it was a bit of a win there

>>71822183
I heard of that, it looks like it has everything. B-but does that sound good? I can not find a characteristic to describe its sound from demo on youtube. What do you think?

>>71822213
I havent heard it on anything but in a band scenario though one of those novelty mini marshal stack amps so I really can't give a full opinion but it did enough for me to want to get one and maybe make an EP then flip it

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>>71822231
If you really want polyphony you need to spend more, but oscillators like the mutable instruments braids or the studio electronics quadnic both have polyphony, just more limited than having 3 or 4 actual oscillators (if you want cheap full control mode get 4x doepfer A111-3)

>>71822306
I used it once in a showroom and it sounded soo deep and nice, just really rich, tonally complex but a bit hard to get into.

>>71822231
if you really want good polyphony either look at a new OB-6/8 or look for vintage. the system 8 is really meant for taking VSTs/Presets you used in the studio with you on stage.

>>71822243
kek, this is true tho

>>71822285
sounds great, tons of effects and modulation options, 12 voice analog...
What more do you want ?

>>71822285
>>71822377
or go for a prophet or OB6 if you got the money

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I make dark ambient, you got some feedback for me? I think it needs more movement...
https://clyp.it/ugjpzody

>>71822360
I guess the band scenario is what brought out the creativity in me, and the fact that the synth guy was like "dont touvh this or that" while i was fucking with it so I cooked it off on a few options and fell in love with how it distorted through the small amp.
I just wanna play with that and a midi mapped wave shaper envelope and see what sweet little spots I can find

>>71822377
i hate effects, they are all digital effects right? I have tons of pedals and the main reason I am buying a synth is just to use pedals on keyboards lol.

>>71822409
I would shorten some areas down, look into the psychology behind how long one noise can drone before the brain wants another, and relate that more to the incoming synth arrangement.
you could acheive this with the 4 layer of pads to come!

>>71822409
>>71822459
without shortening areas maybe, just make the new synth hit at the psychological right time

>>71822438
yeah they slapped a ton of tc electronic effect engines in there since tc is also behringer/music group
they're pretty damn good actually
I played that thing for hours at a store and was close to taking it home if I wasn't all set for the prophet rev-2

https://soundcloud.com/lo_veebeats
Few short kind of lo-fi tracks
Just looking for some feedback

>>71822438
I see. In this case a mono synth will be great. I run my synths through pedals too

https://soundcloud.com/corydhughes/wake-at-noon

what do you think?

>>71822459
yeah that was the idea, two of the pads will play in the central part of the piece, they are two ring modulated sine waves at different frequencies that I recorded, so it should fill out the spectrum a bit without making it too dense also looking to get more variation with automation, the only thing is that since I started making more long form stuff it gets harder and harder to make music because of the length of the piece...

>>71822487
>https://soundcloud.com/lo_veebeats
you would benefit a lot by looking into how tame imapala recorded and mixed their kicks down. All with a SM57 in the early days, totally doable in a bedroom. I'll try find the forum link that helped me achieve a tame like lofi but clear kick.
from memory, he mic'd up the small holes in the kick and snare and used the distortion from that mixed with overhead mic's to make an awesome blend of lofi punch.

Not sure if that;s the sort of feedback you wanted but im drunk and rambly so it's what you get

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some weird japanese/PC music/vocaloid/house-y stuff i've been working on for a little EP

https://soundcloud.com/morningsounds/summer-dreams-1/s-fCLcB

>>71822438
>tons of pedals to run gear thru

i dream of having this, but the increased number of cables scares me off

>>71822520
if you record your voice with your guitar, stop doing that.
the vox needs compression in my opinion, also reverb is your friend

>>71822548
tell me about it, I get stuck with that length issue in the psytrance game and end up fighting a battle with my CPU

I would add more, chorus rate madulation or something like that towards the areas where the new sounds will come in, on whatever element is at the forfront at the time - then go from there and maybe modulate something else on each approach.

Just really get into it while taking a step back, if that makes sense

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https://clyp.it/dlqpyyty

>170/85
>beats

>>71822560
Maaaan, im a simple guy with stolen samples, stolen FLStudio and free vinyl plugin and I do it just because music is my hobby. Therefore i didnt understand anything what you said pretty much :/

>>71822486
I try to look for something to sounds prophet 12 but cheaper. The interface of deepmind 12 looks bad and It seems like those menu diving stuffs are so glitchy.

>>71822630
>https://clyp.it/dlqpyyty
everything about that, I dug

I would even want to make psytrance with you, I like the atmosphere you made there! dank as fuck

>>71822568
That shit is freeeeeeeesh, giving me some "pale machine [MARU-123]by bo en" vibes
>>71822610
it helps to tacle the song bit by bit and then listen to the whole thing a couple of times and find problem areas to solve the next time you work on it, for the CPU thing, since I started using external gear everything is much easyer, for the rest I still do with vsts I just freeze and unfreeze the tracks in ableton, takes time but it's the only way you can stay under 100%CPU at the end of the thing #No8CoreProcessorYetDesu

>>71822644
I feel you, keep on truckin soldier you doin good

>>71822694
Thanks for kind words! Much apprecitated!

>>71822658
the menus are solid, but yeah you need them a lot
it's not bad actually and you get the hand real quick, but having a clean structured surface with lots of knob per function is what draws me to the prophet as well.
that mobile app for control is fucking sexy, though. great idea

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https://clyp.it/zkxa1p0k
>live dub techno jam

tweaked the kicks and added more hihat and snare
how's it sounding?

>>71822687
I work on a shitty toshiba note book fucker that a fan gave us after our laptop was stolen, i feel dat hashtag!

CPU only really becomes an issue on the mixdown, but i cant bring myself to constantly go between project files to adjust an element of a group track or something.

You really learn how topush a computer when you're forced to, it ends up affecting our sound and making us sound more dirty and minimal which sort of just works anyway so I take it as a sort of "go with it" sign so i just deal.

I was a homeless producer for a long time so I learnt the back ass backwards ways of doing shit a lot of the time

aaaaand im drunk rambling again

>>71822712
I feels like as far as what I have seen, moog and david smith's interfaces are so superior, beautiful and comfy. I just hope Moog can come up with a 4 voice version sub37.

>>71822799
>https://clyp.it/zkxa1p0k
nice flow, good movement. tech fans around me would dig this for sure

>>71822799
I'd personally prefer it if the bass you have in the start, the kind of wobbly thing is more present, id make the higher percussion a bit weaker to give it some darker vibes, but that's just me, for the rest I think the lead needs a bit more fx to set into the mix propperly

https://clyp.it/kqlvn0a2

How's my mixing?

just put this track out, fairly new to this shit so let me know what you think please

https://soundcloud.com/dazeoff/conditions-of-living

>>71822906
>https://clyp.it/kqlvn0a2
you need to control your transients in the area towards the end tobegin with, with the group vocals.

bring the additional elements down to where they arent peaking too high, then compress them up to still stand out like you wanted in that example.

>>71822907
>https://soundcloud.com/dazeoff/conditions-of-living
I like dem vibes, beats my hip hop instrumetal attempts.
Plenty of room to move if you found an artist that wanted to work with the beat though

anyone here have jbl lsr305? would you recommend them? they're pretty cheap now.

>>71823031
>lsr305
they are not bad, but I head they need good positioning so I decided to buy yamahas

>>71823045
every speaker needs proper positioning, your room and your placement in it is like 80% of the equation

>>71823031
for the price i'd try em regardless of anything really

>>71823069
we're stuck in a fucking garage right now with minimal options apart from packing shit in all the corners, it's so fucked up

>>71823021
thanks for the kind words

>>71823096
LOL, maybe they are not the best, do not put them too close to the walls.

>>71823096
plywood and cloth and cheap foam can go a long way!

>>71823180
we have event 20/20 bas v3 so they are great, we found putting the table on an angle in the middle of the room worked best in the fucked scenario we are stuck in lol

>>71823198
we have enough weird shit to hopefully get it sounding atleast somewhat decent, better than the badly designed huge mixing room we pay good money for - which is both funny and fucked up

>>71823031
i have these, they are pretty good and accurate to my ears.
bass goes low for 5", though tweeter design takes some getting used to

>>71788684
Download a DAW and buy an audio interface to input your guitar/mic. Then get creative. You don't need a scene just commitment to what you want to do.

Then you can do drums/synths/effects/mapping/add samples etc in the DAW to make it a fuller sounding track. Otherwise stick to being a singer/songwriter alone and use it for guitar effects/mapping as there's plenty of free vsts.

If the people here were part of 'scenes' theyd be unlikely to be coming to 4chan for help. You can become a lo-fi star with youtube and bandcamp, just look at Alex G and Elvis Depressedly/Coma Cinema.

https://youtu.be/XtLG8K6Pcdw

what comes into your mind when you think of T H I C C synth sound?

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edmfag reporting in! i feel the mix is missing something or isn't really that good, can you guys help me?

>>71824104
supersaw

>>71824123
sounds like a fl studio template project

>>71824104
the thiccest reese

>>71824144
i use ableton lmao

>>71788684
get some youtube tutorials
download reaper or crack your DAW of choiche get a cheap audio interface like a focusrite 2i2 or the m-audio stuff
get one or two mics, maybe some sm 57s for the drums and an sm58 for your vocals (desu you need to look into what you need, you can get entire mic kits for like under 200$ that sound decent)
and just make music
there are no fucking excuses for not making music, you have the internet an you probably have a little bit of money to get some basics. go and work.

>>71824123
production is allright I guess, the lead could benefit from being less tacky and squeeky, but it brings nothing interesting or new to the table

I try to start do some recording and recording, I bearly use VST/build-in effects/plug-in. Which DAW should I use?

>>71824304
watch tutorials and decide for yourself which makes more sense to you

>>71824417
I think Pro Tool looks fine, but I saw a lot of people are switching it of it. May I know the reason?

>>71807817
yo this is fucking mental man, good shit

>>71824437
pro tools is a bit too formal for me, if you know what I mean.

It's good for recording instruments but not so good for arranging VST's and midi.

It depends what you're trying to do, the studio I rent has a protools room and an FL studio/cubase room.

The protools room is for all live band stuff because it works best, the FL studio/cubase room is best because that room is for electronic music production. Ableton is king for that but I don't use it myself because I don't like the workflow.

>>71824523
fuck my english right now

>>71824437
avid subscription bullshit, practically unpiratable aax plugin format, gimped functionality to sell their shitty hardware and HD licences
avoid at all costs

>>71824556
much better explanation than mine

>>71824123
cringe

any reccs for good midi knob controllers?

maybe something with at least 6 knobs? dont really need other features.

>>71825425
midi fighter twister is really awesome and absolutely worth the price for the build quality alone

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZXvMDwxiKc

my newest beat
my best track out of doomsday mixtape

here it is

>>71790261
>https://clyp.it/z04ylw33
you need more compexity and diversity within the phrase. other than that, i like!

>>71825480
your melodies dont fit with each other and your vocal tag makes you sound mentally impaired

>>71825849
still better then your track bitch