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DISCLAIMER: I stole this write-up from Reddit. This is the post that introduced me to Jellyfish, and they're now one of my favorite bands of all time.

> First, a disclaimer: I have no connection to Jellyfish or any of the folks associated with them - I'm just a fan who discovered their music a couple years ago and was astonished that they aren't more widely known.

> Wikipedia has the whole story, but here's the TL;DR: Jellyfish formed in San Francisco in 1989, released two albums of gorgeous and intricately-produced music (generally lumped into the "power pop" genre), and broke apart in 1994. There were a few people who cycled through the band during its brief lifetime, but the two principal creative forces driving the group and their sound were Roger Joseph Manning Jr. and Andy Sturmer.

> Despite being driving by a pair of legitimate creative/musical geniuses, Jellyfish had some absolutely terrible luck, which almost certainly contributed to their lack of commercial success. Two serious problems in particular stand out to me:

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>>71690953
you should have just made a /power pop/ general
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>1. Their 'visual style' heavily borrowed from San Francisco's 1960's hippie culture (on-stage look, album art and music videos), and was just hopelessly dated and silly by the early 1990's. Almost all their videos and live concerts display this style, and it's really at odds with their sound
Their sound (both recorded and live) was gorgeous, using complex vocal harmonies and intricate multi-layered instrumentation (note the repeated and enchanting use of harpsichord in several of the tracks I link below)... all of which was completely at odds with the rapid swing into the Grunge Era they were musically competing against in the early '90s

> 2. Jellyfish only released two full albums (not counting some demo tapes and a few live bootlegs): Bellybutton and Spilt Milk. Both albums are absolutely crammed with tracks that evoke (without entirely ripping off) many familiar artists and bands, ranging from The Beatles, Badfinger, Cheap Trick, Queen, The Beach Boys, etc. - basically any major group that incorporated complex harmonies and arrangements within the rock/pop genres. Put another way: if you like any songs from any of the groups I just listed off, you're almost sure to find at least a couple songs from Jellyfish that you'll adore.

Here's the link to the original Reddit post (credit to /u/wowbobwow: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/4ubudr/you_should_know_about_the_band_jellyfish_which/
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>>71690971
bestu poweru popu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAH1ioLiaHw
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>>71690953
I love Spilt Milk. I remember the first time listening to it and being blown away. Andy is a genius songwriter.

I really should get around to listening to Bellybutton.
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>>71690998
grorious second bestu power pop desu senpai

In my opinion, Jellyfish is like Queen, but better and from the 90s and none of them died of AIDS
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What do y'all think of Teenage Fanclub?
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>>71691108
Spilt Milk is also an excellent example of how to use the dynamic range of a CD to its full extent.

Case in point: that moment in All Is Forgiven when the cacophony slams to a halt and you hear this tiiiny, super quiet quote of Goodnight before the song comes roaring back. So powerful, and the medium done right.
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>>71690985
>a good post on /r/music
wew lad that's a first
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Is there any power pop as good as Cheap Trick, /mu/?
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>>71693647
That was intentional? It was so abrupt and unexpected that I always thought it was a glitch.
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"New Mistake" is one of the best pop songs ever written
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIcgEsjYs14

>>71692969
Love Teenage Fanclub. Bandwagonesque and Grand Prix are my favorites.
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Hands down my favorite power-pop album. Catchy as fuck from start to finish.
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Please don't ruin Jellyfish Reddit, they've been my favorites since 2010
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Speaking of Jellyfish, anyone remember Andy Sturmer's spinoff band Puffy Amiyumi? And how they had one of CN's last watchable shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfpBn3VqHLg
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>>71696691
Yup, I used to love that show. :^)
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>>71690953

Check out, the guitarist's other project

Jason Falkner Presents Author Unknown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dzEHzr1p_4&list=PL_ucqE5ZkK1TsNNGlgClCAiA3FjQQD9qg

Its terrific as well.
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>>71697070
Where'd you buy the disc from
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>>71697260
I'm listening to the whole album right now. My goodness, this is some amazing material. Thanks, Anon.

>>71697307
I got it from a local Hollywood Video store when I was around 6 or 7 years old. The disc is over 10 years old. Time flies. ;_;
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>>71697590
Wait... you're only 16 or 17, by my calculations.

MOOOODDDSSS
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As a massive Jellyfish fan for several years, it warms my heart to see a thread for them here on /mu/. They're my favorite band, and I've obsessed over them to the point of seeking out anything else any of the band members have done.

As already mentioned, Jason Falkner's solo work is great. He was also in a short-lived band called The Grays that only released one album and was a member of The Three O'Clock for their final album.

Roger Joseph Manning Jr. (the keyboardist) also has a couple of really good solo albums and has been a member of TV Eyes with Jason Falkner, a member of The Moog Cookbook, and releases remixes under the alias Malibu.

Andy Sturmer stays out of the limelight but there's a little bit of solo material of him out there and he was, for a time, the godfather of and a major songwriter for Japanese pop duo PUFFY. Nowadays you'll mostly see his work as themes for children's television shows.

By the way, Andy also collaborated with Bleu on Bleu's ELO tribute project, L.E.O. - Alpacas Orgling. He only appears on one song, Goodbye Innocence.

PUFFY - Your Love is a Drug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iWwrR_YQTA

L.E.O. - Goodbye Innocence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWgEbxe7OQ0

Roger Joseph Manning Jr. - Sandman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR4DLdWdnIg
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>>71690985
>many familiar artists and bands, ranging from The Beatles, Badfinger, Cheap Trick, Queen, The Beach Boys
please insert XTC into this copypasta. as a big fan of both bands it's glaringly obvious that Jellyfish were massive XTC fans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCOsYs41PaQ
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>>71697721
Hell, the entire reason why Andy and Roger hired Jason was because he was the only guitarist that listed XTC as an influence in his personal ad.
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>>71697260
Well, I just finished Presents Author Unknown. That was genius all the way through. I'm still in shock by how good it was. I'm going to check out a bunch of Power Pop now.

>>71697607
B-b-but, I'm 18. ;_;
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>>71697842
>>71697842

Im the Jason Falkner poster, you also might like Ariel Pink, he's the weirder power pop cousin of these bands, and he's kinda subtly mocking the kind of music he makes (60s to 80s pop), where Jellyfish and Falkner were genuine. his lo fi stuff sounds like trash on the first couple of listen but is really good.

This higher fi album (Before Today) is the easier to get into,
(the first track isn't that good)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-0-Kbv-wCg&list=PLya-I8cW-oYHiKU318Yx6IxtIe3fWCB2y

the lo-fi

house arrest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjjO6AmP8EQ&list=PLP5a77Df_K1kmrxzwzcDlXUkHhQrP3sDn

and

worn copy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsIzhTi2-FQ&list=PLs4e9cpbm6DK6V8LK4nnuDwMfDmhqjYuI

just as good
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Great to see a Jellyfish thread. I'm a huge fan, after being introduced to them around 10 years ago in the UK.

You may also like The Wondermints. They are probably most famous for helping Brian with Pet Sounds and SMiLE tours (and album), but Bali and Wonderful World of are great power pop albums.
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>>71698156
I'm familiar with Ariel Pink/Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti, but I've only listened to Pom Pom. I never got around to listening to the earlier, more acclaimed material. I'll definitely give the links you posted a listen and also Before Today and House Arrest + Lover Boy later. Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>71698156
>>71697842

Jason Falkner also produced an R Stevie Moore album

R Stevie Moore is an old home recorder and Ariel Pink was a huge fan and later friend of his, I think R Stevie has thousands of songs so I don't know to tell you where to start, but here's a song I like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1MfeLx6Uds


also check out guided by voices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlZlst4NBVw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9x6zckn18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8LyAqtaa0
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>>71698339

Pom Pom veers a little too much into parodies for me, and Ariel let an old record producer that he was a fan of write the lyrics for a couple of the songs and they were a bit more cringey/silly than normal
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Wew lads, I'm on a musical high right now. My goodness, I just finished Cheap Trick's self-titled and it was pretty good. I also listened to Bellybutton (for the first time) after listening to the Jason Falkner album. I prefer Spilt Milk, but it was still pretty good.

>>71698156
I'm listening to Before Today right now and I'm only on the third track and really enjoy it. I'm familiar with "Round and Round", which I know i already enjoy, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to quite like this album.

>>71698375
I'm familiar with Guided By Voices, but I've only listened to Bee Thousand. For some reason, I couldn't quite get into it even though I'm usually a sucker for Lo-fi Indie. I'll probably give it another listen (as well as check out Alien Lanes and Under the Bushes Under the Stars). I'll also check out R. Stevie Moore. I suppose I'll start with either Delicate Tension or Glad Music. Again, thanks for all the recs, Anon. :^)
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Socrates Pathos and Plato is incredible!
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love jellyfish and that jason falkner album is an old favourite too

never seen it posted on /mu/ before and rarely see jellyfish discussion either!
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>>71700154
>tfw just listened to that Jason Falkner for the first time about six hours ago
>tfw on my fourth listen of the album already
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