Next Musical Revolution

>>71684467
I'm thinking garage rock is going to have another mainstream resurgence with a bigger emphasis on lofi production then when it hit in the early 00's.
I base this on nothing.

early 00s garage rock was purely aesthetic, neither the strokes nor the vines nor the arctic monkeys nor the white stripes were actually fucking garage rock. the only real garage rock act from the early 00s was jay reatard.

and yet i do see your point from '10 forwards garage rock and lo fi has been coming in really strong, and not bad in my opinion.

Shoegaze

New New Wave

>>71685642
garage rock already had a revival in the late 2000s and its dead again

next big thing is new soft rock

>>71684467
death grips

>>71685722
Old Wave

>>71685739
To be fair, it's had many revivals, the shit keeps coming back.
You're probably right about soft rock though.

>>71684467
Since most of the popular music from the 20th Century derived from guitar dance music, I think it is pretty obvious that most of the 21st Century popular music will be electronic based.

guitar music is dead and its not coming back mac demarco is probably the closest you'll get

>>71686383
Classical music is dead? Orchestral elements are dead? Don't think so. Might not be the way it has but sure won't die.

Spunk

AKA Crust Punk Revival

I could see something like this re-surging?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHW4MMLDjI0

Every dumb rock genre's been polished and refined several times over in the last year and it's no secret. My theory is if the market is going towards high production + meme it'll take a swing towards very austere, serious and minimal. you see it with gorillaz new shit, poppy. even white stripes and the black keys sort of sublimated that statement just in a different commercialism but ya something Link Wray I could very well see soon. Sincerity is sort of cool but will always have to be approached in illusory steps upward.

>>71686383
guitar music will always be alive in the underground and it being one of the easiest and accessible instruments to learn how to play music on we'll never have a shortage of kids picking it up and starting bands.

>>71686366
>most of the 21st Century popular music will be electronic based.
Please no

>>71686520
Yeah had the exact same thought too

>>71686522
most of those kids are magnetized to the Pink Floyd Revolution Syndicate Parade Throwback bullshittery though and by most, like, all the ones committed enough to be represented. otherwise guitar these days seems to always have some kind of sneaky business practice to it paying homage and whatnot. nobody actually is just rocking without trying to aim for shit today desu

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>>71686578
sick im not insane

Grunge era making fun of music today mixed with hippie era past the war that's going on today

Death grips is the revolution

>>71686677
i sure fucking hope not

>>71686661
Grunge electronic

(pre) post-ironic avant-garde music about the woes of capitalism and consumerism

>>71686709
Too late

>>71686522
also the sound of a string is one of the most fundamental and pleasant sounds, and the guitar is all about the uninhibited sound of strings, unlike the piano which needs an elaborate mechanism, or bowed string instruments.

>>71684467
Are you talking mainstream or not? Cause I feel like anything rap related is going to stay in the spotlight because there's nothing a teenage white boy wants more than to be friends with Tyrone, and you'll never get rid of pop music. Hopefully something like early 90's grunge rock makes a comeback, or outlaw country. I fucking hate how everyone associates country with Luke Byran

>>71686421
>Classical music is dead? Orchestral elements are dead
dead as in NOT GOOD
>>71686522
again NOT GOOD bands

grungegaze is probably going to be the next legitimately popular thing. before that happens, the bubble thats in hip hop needs to burst. specifically the atl/toronto style of trap music. i think all its going to take is a third wave of soundcloud rappers like vert and yachty becoming popular before it just all abruptly ends like disco did.

or maybe drake will get exposed again for feeding off the life energy of another young rapper, and people will get tired of his slimy ass. by 2018 i think we'll see the basis for underground rock becoming popular again, but it also can't have the standard timbre of a typical rock band or it will fail. music is in a really weird spot right now i think. there haven't been any interesting advances in intensity or song structure in ages. you have guys like arca and OPN that are seriously pushing boundaries in terms of synthesis and texture, but they can't write songs worth a shit so nobody thats normal cares about them. either way my prediction will probably wrong since hip hop still has a lot of life in it, but i can't see this current music climate being sustainable for much longer

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>>71686661
underground pedo-ring aesthetics mixed with casual satanism and prominent female voices and music videos about turning plastic bags in the wind into roses and camera pans that zoom into the molecules of trash plastics desu
>mfw incest in jangle pop videos kinda sorta around grunge just very no big deal
tfw nobody just makes a second perfect from now on instead

progressive dreamfunk will finally win the battle over post-avant jazzcore

>>71685754
You actually might not be far off, Epic were trying to push I've Seen Footage as an alternate breakthrough hit (like SLTS for grunge) so there's definitely potential. Hopefully it'll mean exposure for clipping. too.

xxxtentacion maybe? he talked about this in one of his interviews. i dont know anything about music history though

>>71686784
>also the sound of a string is one of the most fundamental and pleasant sounds
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING
THE WORST SOUND ON THIS FUCKING PLANET IS THE INHERENTLY OUT OF TUNE G AND B STRING EVERY GUITARIST KNOWS THEY CAN NEVER BE TOTALLY RIGHT LITERALLY THE MOST FOUL SOUND FOLLOWING BABIES

>>71686528
Relax, that means guys like FlyLo and Thundercat, not Skrillex and the Chainsmokers.

>>71686801
only way underground rock will take off if they don't take 2-3 years just to release 12 damn songs. hip hop/electronic keep their fans happy with constant releases

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>>71686843
>playing in E standard

>>71686898

thats definitely true. i don't think the idea of an album is dead, but you probably do need to be much more prolific now than you did before. theres a ton of rock oriented bedroom stuff on bandcamp that has a constant stream of releases, and i think some bands like protest the hero do things where they did a kickstarter to release a new song every month. the future is definitely producer oriented, but its pretty easy to record and mix a nice sounding track at a home studio now.

>>71686796
"Not good" is your personal opinion which doesn't mean shit too my point.

>>71686801
It's always weird to me how certain performance tendencies just fall outside of the grasp of expressive vocabulary today. I mean given we rehash just about everything there aren't many excuses either. Like, a stupid example, if you just think of Radiohead or some alt-rock band from the 90s they might do that thing where they all play one riff but is there one band that has done that in the last 10 years? I really don't think so? Silly thought but certain things just can never happen again maybe not within genre but style and feeling and that culls off certain things from imitation somehow reinforcing the original artist's fame even if they weren't totally remarkable like Van fucking Gogh or something. Anyway I get your idea about grungegaze thing. I don't know if it HAS to happen but as apart of collective conscious it just fits right into that repressed impulse to feast upon sludge as a way of living and idk I GET the impulse behind you saying that and I hope it finds a place too. Maybe post-hardcore, Olympia gets more praise today than ever but it was far less even 4 years ago.

>>71686919
>he doesn't know secret code DAD

Djents been pretty good

>>71687110
>having guitar tuned above c# standard
WEW

You say musical revolution but it sounds like you just mean trend

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>>71687221
there was, like, never a difference man.

>>71686992
show me some good current rock bands then buddy
better yet show me how good your band sounds
>inb4 i don't play music i just leech off society and whine why music isn't good

There is no innovation left in music.

>>71687296
not that anon, but what's the point?
you're just going to shit on whatever that anon posts anyway.

>>71687339
nah im pretty open minded

>>71687296
wasnt his point. holy shit.

get off 4chan for a while. respect yourself duder

>>71687087

i'm sure there will have to be some at least slightly novel songwriting ideas in order for a new style of rock music to take off, but i think it would have to be something that comes from the production side. i don't think there are any more innovations left in terms of physically playing the guitar or any of the standard rock band instruments. bass guitar players tried being unique and weird in the 80s and they got replaced by synth bass players because they ignored the point of the instrument, so whatever this new music is needs to simultaneously be different and familiar, which is just infuriating to think about.

to further elaborate i think grungegaze is going to be the next thing because there is still some life left in shoegaze in making interesting textures.i think music as a whole is headed back to a more psychedelic trend. but in general shoegaze on its own is either too noisy, or lacking a backbone. grunge works as a compliment to shoegaze because the songwriting was pretty good and youthful, and it also left unfinished with cobain dying. sure, theres post-grunge, but almost all of that was uniformly shit for various reasons. the other post cobain trends in rock music never truly took off either, like nu-metal or emo. you can see grunge coming back oddly in hip hop of all places too, with kid cudi basically making a tribute album to cobain, and that xxxtentacion kid trying to burn out as fast as he possibly can


anyway this is the kind of sound that i think has a shot if the bands get their shit together and write good music. inb4 me shilling my own band because of the low views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U__k7uJ4_0
https://ghostlakeokc.bandcamp.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzy9OdQMrzc (rip whirr)

trapcore

>>71687342
Buddy I want to revolutionize music and I have my taste but that was still not my point.

>>71687380
>>71687679
so zero examples of good bands
cmon m8 you could try

>>71686628
Yeah I thought of exactly Link Wray too. We might be on to something.

>>71687556
sounds like early deftones but with female vocals tbqh

>>71687726
I've never even said shit about good rock bands, Holy shit read my posts.

>>71687801
i've read it twice
your point was that we'll never a shortage of bands and that doesn't mean anything if ALL OF THEM ARE SHIT

>>71687768

>sounds like early deftones but with female vocals tbqh

i agree

>>71687556
That Whirr/Nothing EP was great

>>71687837
No you autist, my point was that just because rock is "dead" it doesn't mean the instrument guitar is. Just as because classic music is "dead" it doesn't mean orchestral instruments are.

>>71687837
Lel, i think you're replying to my post friendo, and I never said they wouldn't be shit.

>>71687997
fair enough

>>71687997
>>71688009
Hahaha well shit boys

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>>71687556
sorry my spleen is killing me

There's BoA who did the soundtrack for serial experiments lain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WidfjUJdk_8 who sort fit that margin of technical simplicity with obvious thoughtfulness everywhere else. i've seen r9k threads of people who just post, "i listen to this song all day on loop" and it's interesting for a multitude of reasons and in the context of the show but it all ties up into something like holy shit there is something else! (it's power lines?) When I call back to being a bleeding heart /mu/ kiddy the first thing i went to was midwestern shoegaze like lilys and swirlies and so i was thrilled when Ceres & Calypso finally made in the deep time because i thought, "wow soon ill know what third eye blind summers are like" but it turned it to just be a fluke. what we know to be bbq rock and butt rock is almost just a way of approximating that post-grunge in 2004~ that's so difficult to empathize with now (with the insane optimism and casual normality of being a twisted fucking psycho! pathology) but the sentiment of currently being on the upward the curiosity comes back. it's just still in the meme phase, but i say all that cus the impulse makes sense. people are shocked when memes become reality but then thats why they had to be memes... i think it's funny that mainstream music will probably think in this way >>71686520 but kids dopamine levels are only rising so the imminent failure of product-relations will probably force something like grungegaze and that might accidentally say something that speaks the truth.

being someone like xxxtantacion and having to constantly having to contextualize yourself in the vanguard is something i think a lot of artists suffer with now and the only way real ambitious people cope with it is by avoiding shilling their stuff almost. i don't actually _really_ pay attention to music but to just bullshit for the sake of bullshitting.

these are good btw

>>71684467
Epic Music will be the new thing.
You already hear it everywhere and now since the internet composers gain a bigger audience.

Also the quality of samples and the state of the industry is getting better and better.

New producers will emerge because making standard 12 track soundcloud lo-fi, house, trap is already boring and bland.

Expect more "Hans Zimmer - Time" like songs with lyrics

>>71686796
>NOT GOOD
pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCGlIjLT8OQ

civilization will soon collapse and everything will be lost, then we can start over

>>71688524

>duvet

my dude, this song is amazing. their whole first album is amazing. but yeah i agree with you in the sense that music now needs to reflect the angst that we feel and that people are tired of faking happiness. and memetics definitely play a role in all of this. vaporwave pretty much started off as a meme and while not a commercially successful genre by design, its influencing a ton of electronic music and culture now. who knows really whats up next? whatever it is will be left field i suppose. there hasn't been anything since vaporwave that i can think of.