whats your opinion on this dude

HAHA DUDE SOFT ROCK LMAO :D

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>>71579336
this generation's Gerry Rafferty with some japanese influence

2 is a solid 8/10
Other releases are generally mediocre but with some standouts

Goofy guy, pretty decent music, horrible fan base.

>>71579527
why would you say the fanbase is horrible, though? just wanting to know

>>71579541
Because any time he's critizied all off his through a shit fit and start crying

>>71579562
partly true for any band

>>71579594
yeah
but demarco fans like to pull the "it isn't that srs chillax bro and smoke a viceroy"

>>71579594
No, Macfags are the absolute worst, even worse than Tame Impala fags. They do nothing but lurk in threads and wait for someone to say ill of their goofball prophet, and then they keep on bitching and moaning about how superior they ar to everybody else.

They are the biggest cancer of /mu/

>>71579698
>worse than st vincent fans
>worse than anal del rey fans
>worse than death grips fans
>worse than swans fans
'no'

>>71579698
I'd say they are on par with Tame Impala fans but definitely agreed other than that
It's like fucking /mu/-males cant breathe if they don't create another thread about this fucking talentless hack every 2 hours

it's all right, but it got old pretty fast
the fashion influence is massive tho
im hoping this old dog will shake up his sound a bit

>>71579698
>They are the biggest cancer of /mu/
>>71576132

>>71579723
Yea they are
-Barely anyone talks about St.Vinny anymore, and if they do it's in a containment thread.
-No one actually likes Lana, people just make fun of her.
-Death Grips fans barely even exist anymore, most people grew out of them.
-Swans fans talk about Swans like any other band, and at least Swans is talented.

Mac fans are scum

>>71579804
>and at least Swans is talented
lmao

>>71579755
>/mu/-males
is that a new way to say nu-male?
kek

>>71579801
Yeah, Grimes fans are a bigger tumour, but they just kinda sit there, but Mac fans are much more aggressive, even though they're smaller in numbers sense it's not 2014 anymore.

>>71579698
wew. the tame impala shit happens to me irl on a regular basis. but i havent seen it here, tho desu im just a newfag and dont bother reading through all the threads and stuff.

>>71579804
Literally all wrong. End yourself, cancer.

>>71579844
I've never seen anyone defend Mac Demarco on here though. The most aggressive defense in this thread is "pretty decent"

>>71579837
ye
>>71579857
fuck off mac's cocksucker

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>>71579813
>there are people on this board right now (Tuesday, March 14, 2017, 3:27 EST) who actually believe that Mac DeMarco is good, and that Swans aren't talented.

I don't even like Swans that much, but dear god your taste is shit.

HEY FOGMAN MAY I GRIP A CIG

that's all I know about him

>>71579562
>>71579698
>>71579755
I see far more aggressive vitriol towards him than blind praise or aggressive defence of his music on /mu/. It's never legitimate criticism either, just >goofball etc.

Maybe you're projecting?

>>71579857
Thanks for proving my point.
>>71579887
You must be blind.

>>71579942
>he said the P word XD

>>71579942
>It's never legitimate criticism either,
he made an whole career over ripping off this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2U1BhziqzM

>>71579723
>worse than st vincent fans
haven't listened to her but I have never had a problem with her fans they don't seem bad at all.
>worse than lana del rey fans
pretty terrible fans
>worse than death grips fans
death grips fans stay in their own threads most of the time.
>worse than swans fans
what is wrong with swans fans?

Also you didn't even mention grimes fans.

>>71579924
It's not a matter of taste. Mac Demarco is objectively a better songwriter than Michael Gira, who generally apes stylistic conventions from Krautrock, industrial and post-punk and executes them far more poorly. At least Mac can write a good pop song.

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>>71579978
I know you must be a troll, you must be.

I used to like him, he's really boring though.

>>71579336
Goofball/10

But he seems like a pretty chill guy. Would definitely have a beer with him.

>>71580003
>can't refute my argument
>resorts to calling me a troll
Classic /mu/

>>71579942
he is just a guy who whines over some catchy stolen slowed down samples for an hour, his music is incredibly bland and soulless
He is a fucking hack, this is why people dislike him.

>>71579698
>>71579804
>>71579844
these posts make you look way worse than these "horrible" and "aggressive" mac fans desu

grimes fans are by far the worst and that just abou a fact at this point, recently especially

i lurk a lot and never really see anyone throw a fit defending mac demarco's music. it's just catchy guitar pop with a nice personality behind it.

try and learn how to enjoy a bit more anon

>>71580019
Okay, good, you are a troll. There's no way anyone with half a brain could actually think that.

>>71580003
>>71579978
you're both wrong and fucking plebs with shit taste.

Demarco = garbage
Swans = even MORE garbage

I like almost all the stuff Mac puts out. He's a pretty solid artist and seems like a nice dude.

>>71580017
Why tho? Anyways, if you REALLY would like to put yourself through that move to Vancouver island literally everyone and their dog has that retarded personality "haha mannn soooo chillll"

>>71580039
HA CALLED>>71579671

>>71580039
No one gives a shit about his "catchy guitar pop" and "nice personality", we give a shit about you being cancer. Seriously just look at this thread, all of you retards heard the battle cry and went into action because on person called you out on your shit.

>>71579973
I can see why you'd think that if you're only capable of analysing music on a purely superficial level.

>>71580021
>he is just a guy who whines over some catchy stolen slowed down samples for an hour
So you only listened to Chamber of Reflection?
>bland
>soulless
Nice buzzwords. Try criticising the actual music this time.

>>71580088
not the guy you're replying to but i'd rather hang w the chill people than hang w a keyboard warrior against the world

>>71580113
They're the furthest thing from chill. They just talk with that demeanor.

>>71580102
>be overtly antagonistic against X
>receive antagonistic replies defending X in response
>think you've proved something

>>71580112
heres another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2U1BhziqzM

>>71580113
Well, he seems like he'd be a lot of fun. Why would you not catch a drink with him if offered?

>>71580112
you butt-psychedelia obsessed hipsters are all the same
just see >>71302591 and change the word lifeless with soulless

>>71580056
I'm not saying anyone has to like Mac DeMarco. I can completely understand why someone might not appreciate his aesthetic especially since he doesn't really venture very far stylistically. I'm just saying his songwriting is far more sophisticated than Gira's and anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly pretty musically ignorant.

>>71580102
you complain about aggressive cancerous fans yet you're doing just that right now

think it's time to pick up a little more self awareness anon

>>71579887
>>71579942
>>71580039
>>71580112
>>71580113
>>71580155
>>71580214
If you kikes are so "le chill" than why aren't you just smoking your ciggys on your porch instead of crying about people not liking you or ur goof god?

>>71580219
> I'm just saying his songwriting is far more sophisticated than Gira'
how is this bad songwriting idiot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4mQxGXxU2M

>>71580214
>>71580088
FFs wrong anon.

>>71580249
its dark

>>71580251
>lunacy (repeat x86)

How does he come up with it /mu/?

>>71580224
I'm throwing a fit because someone doesn't like a music artist I like? No, I really like SDRE, but I don't go on an internet war when someone calls them shit.

>>71580271
you realize "songwriting" isn't just lyrics right??????

>>71580219
Name one (1) song by Mac that beats sny Swans track

>>71580286
Okay,
>same bar (repeat x86)
How does he come up with it /mu/ ?

>>71580249
it's snowing

>>71580298
pls enlighten me what bar and chords they're using :)

>>71580271
>Instruments just happen magically
>Musicians only write words

>>71580275
na but you're throwing a fit over thinking other people are throwing a fit

that's kinda worse
and delusional

>>71580251
See >>71579978
>apes stylistic conventions from Krautrock, industrial and post-punk and executes them far more poorly

>>71580295
"Dreamin'"

>>71580295
Viceroy beats half life
ez, keep in mind I have an entire folder filled with images of people laughing for your reply

>>71580324
whats so great about dreamin

>>71580323
No, I'm mocking you. There's a difference, I'm making fun of you, I'm teasing you, I'm making you mad, and you're just crying about your little canadian heartthrob

>>71580314
Lunacy - A major with an octave A on the lowest string repeated a million times with a little droney Bb to B repeating a million times.

for 2 and a half fucking minutes. The melody is literally Bb and B

>>71580324
>>71580335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Gg-DqFIkM

>>71580379
sorry A and Bb. Then the Lunacy melody (the only other melody is just a 3 note arpeggio A, F ,D

Retards fighting over music. Seems like I've found the place.

>Oxygen by Swans
Dark weird and abrasive. Showed it to my qt3.14 gf and she didnt like it. My normie friends were also put off by it
>Chamber of Reflection - mac demarco
Chill, feel-good slacker vibes. Great for on the couch or at the beach. Qt girls love it and will flock to you

>>71580361
desu
you're saying these things to make you feel that you're right in your convictions, even though i'm not mad or crying (and also, i'm not a mac fan)

i'm just trying to show you how silly your argument is

but if you need a little pick me up and you get it from a successful little bully sesh on an anonymous internet board then sure go nuts

>>71580409
>>71580379
>>71580314
There :) Your favorite band is shit

>>71580529
damn

>>71580529
>mac demarco
samples asian guy and loops it for 4minutes

g e n i u s

>>71580490
>gf
>friends

gtfo

>>71580550
i said demarco is also shit, keep grasping for something to hold on to

>>71580557
>devils advocate on 4chan
get a life

>>71580552
>Hacker by Death Grips
Aggressive drums and shouting, no melody, just indecipherable rambling, chaotic pseudo-experimental production guaranteed to get the aux chord stolen from you at the party if you put this on
>Tame Impala - The Less I Know The Better
Alpha falsetto voice, dank catchy bass riff. dope vintage 80s synths. meme electronic sounding drums. Serves as an excellent Chad propellent and qt3.14 pheromone

>>71580570
>i literally have 0 material on you..g-get a life

>>71580636
>Alpha falsetto
these are literally opposites

>>71580652
>2017
>not embracing male falsetto
Someone cant into pop

>>71580340
Syncopated counterpoint between dual guitar lines
Complex harmony with ample use of chromaticism and chord extensions (particularly #11s)
Dynamic contrast between intro/bridge/outro and verse/chorus
Isolated bars of 2/4 emphasising the same contrast

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>>71580527
how exactly is my argument silly? Look at this thread, it's madness because people can't take insults without getting super defensive.

Interminably beige.

>>71580636
>Serves as an excellent Chad propellent and qt3.14 pheromone
alright back to /r9k/ with you

>>71580650
its sound advice you should take it.
here let me put you in the right direction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVeJjxlNwIM

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>>71580088
As someone from Vancouver Island I can confirm this is laughably true

>>71580665
>Syncopated counterpoint between dual guitar lines

Yes this is a musical technique you were able to notice, well done. It doesn't take away from the fact that it's twanged out by the obnoxious reverb and sounds no less pretentious than any counterpoint used by king crimson.. If you want actual musical counter point that has a reason and a purpose branch out to classical music.

>Complex harmony with ample use of chromaticism and chord extensions (particularly #11s)

True, this is beautiful.

>Dynamic contrast between intro/bridge/outro and verse/chorus

That's how the listener is supposed to differentiate between a verse and chorus in contemporary pop music. This is really unnecessary to say.

>Isolated bars of 2/4 emphasising the same contrast

Yeah typically the chorus will have a different feeling to it, that's characteristic of a chorus, not many songs will have a chorus the same as a verse in dynamics and rhythm .

>>71579438
You're talking about Connan, bro.

>>71580789
Where you from? I just moved down island to Vic

>>71579336
I'm torn because on one hand he's pretty much releasing the same album over and over again. But on the other hand his albums are improving.

>>71580901
Hi Tom.

>>71581010
I don't get it

Dumbass watery bullshit with very little substance and somehow an insane amount of hype.

>>71581032
Classic Tom.

>>71581098
Nice

>>71579336
G O O D

also check out HOMESHAKE

>>71580807
>obnoxious
>pretentious
How is it either of these things?

>If you want actual musical counter point that has a reason and a purpose branch out to classical music.
I mostly listen to classical music. Mac DeMarco is one of the few pop musicians from this decade who's making music I find particularly interesting.

>That's how the listener is supposed to differentiate between a verse and chorus
I'm not talking about the contrast between the verse and chorus but the contrast between these two sections and the rest of the song. The entire arrangement becomes more subdued and the drums become stripped down to just the bass playing on every quarter note. I'm not saying this is unusual for popular music, just that it creates a pleasing contrast.

>Yeah typically the chorus will have a different feeling to it, that's characteristic of a chorus, not many songs will have a chorus the same as a verse in dynamics and rhythm .
This has nothing to with what I'm saying. I'm referring to the bars of 2/4 that end every chorus and bridge section. They interrupt the static 4/4 rhythm creating a sense of "stopping" which emphasises the contrast as I mentioned in my previous post.

>>71581074
>very little substance
Just like this post then lmao #rekt

>>71581205
>I mostly listen to classical music.
explains it all
you don't listen to much pop music

>>71581221
Oh no I just got FRICCIN BEANED

>>71581205
>>obnoxious
>>pretentious
>How is it either of these things?


It's obnoxious, because of the reverb twang.
It's pretentious because they set out to have a counterpoint riff with out asking themselves the musical relevance, they literally just set out to make a riff with counterpoint

>I mostly listen to classical music. Mac DeMarco is one of the few pop musicians from this decade who's making music I find particularly interesting.

I guess everyones entitled to their opinion

>I'm not talking about the contrast between the verse and chorus but the contrast between these two sections and the rest of the song. The entire arrangement becomes more subdued and the drums become stripped down to just the bass playing on every quarter note. I'm not saying this is unusual for popular music, just that it creates a pleasing contrast.

Yeah it's pleasing, that's why pop music does it.

>I'm referring to the bars of 2/4 that end every chorus and bridge section

Oh yeah, that's nice I enjoy that, you don't have to say 2/4 by the way, it's still 4/4. You can just say the full time part. Or with the part with a kick on every quarter note.

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>>71581240
Who are some pop artists from the last 5 years you think are making better music?

>>71581328
>It's obnoxious, because of the reverb twang.
That's your opinion I guess. I don't find it obnoxious at all.
>It's pretentious because they set out to have a counterpoint riff with out asking themselves the musical relevance, they literally just set out to make a riff with counterpoint
As opposed to what? I don't understand what you mean by this. Also, I'd be surprised if he set out to write a piece with counterpoint. I don't think he's musically educated, he strikes me as more of a Paul McCartney-type figure who accidentally writes great pop songs without realising it or knowing what he's doing.

>Oh yeah, that's nice I enjoy that, you don't have to say 2/4 by the way, it's still 4/4. You can just say the full time part. Or with the part with a kick on every quarter note.
4/4 isn't 2/4. I think you're misunderstanding me again. The 2/4 bars occur once at the end of every section besides each verse (see pic related as an example). The part with a kick on every quarter note is the entirety of the intro, bridge and outro.

>>71580490
>listening to music because girls will like you for it
I wish I was more like you

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>>71582185
little lady in the middle

>>71580636
>implying death grips aren't perfect party music, hacker especially

>>71579541
Burger records kids who dress like mac demarco and ty segall the 2010's Los Angeles music scene

Seriously fuck off. I've met mac at a party in Echo park and he's living skim milk, stop worshipping him

Good musician. He has a personality that people try to mimic which is the problem. All of his bandmates try to act as goofy as him which is cringey as hell, especially the fucking no-shoes wearing guitarist who dances weirdly and plays all the riffs wrong.

Just like with other strong personalities in music like Kurt Cobain, fans of Mac Demarco will often adopt his personality and then try to pass it off as their own genuine identity.
>What? I'm just wearing a hat that says Viceroy on it and wearing dungarees and saying 'god bless' all the time and smoking viceroy cigarettes... Oh, Mac Demarco does all that stuff too? I-I had n-no idea! What a coincidence I guess we're just really alike :)"

Fuck off.

Fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off.

>>71582390
t.virgin

>>71580636
the hook, 'I'M IN YOUR AREA' is a melody. have you listened to the song?

>>71580390
Not a terrible song but it's literally just i-V-i-VI the entire way through until it switches to just i-VI for the le epic crescendo near the end. It would probably be good if it weren't 16 fucking minutes long.

>>71579336
I liked him a lot more pre goofy thmblr thing but he's still the chill guitar pop guy with the adorable voice

He's good, and remarkably chill in person.

I used to think he was part of an amazing "bedroom glam rock" revival niche thingy offshoot of hypnogagia that never panned out, so listening to Makeout Videotape and his other earlier stuff makes me kind of sad.

>>71582390
I think if you're willing to take up smoking just because someone you don't even know does it you're a retard.

>>71579336
Why are people so scared to admit they like Mac? It's because it's not edgy and experimental /mu/core so they resort to petty insults often not even related to the actual music. I find it hard to believe that after listening to mac's entire body of work they won't like at least 75% of it. Dude consistently writes sweet melodies with memorable riffs and chord progressions. It's not pretentious and no one is claiming it to be more than it already is, unlike tame impala fans.

>>71583073
It's because /mu/ is far more concerned with image than music. Look through this thread and you'll see 90% of the hate towards him stems from perceptions of the fanbase, not the content of his music.

>>71583155
On a side note, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that at one time I knee-jerkingly dismissed Mac DeMarco as the latest boring FOTM indie shit without actually bothering to listen to him properly. It wasn't until I met my current gf who used to listen to him all the time that I finally decided to give 2 a listen and discovered it's one of the most infectious albums ever and Mac is actually a pretty talented songwriter, if a little over-reliant on certain stylistic choices.

>>71583073
> Dude consistently writes sweet melodies with memorable riffs and chord progressions.
see>>>71579671

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Mac makes great pop music. He does what he does well.

Notice how all the criticism in this thread revolves around the fanbase, which is admittedly shitty but not a real criticism. /mu/ only likes to shit on Mac because they are in denial they like a popular artists and they want to distance themselves from his shitty fanbase. Why else would they get so angry about a pop artist?

>>71583276
>mac
>pop
don't mix my boy mac with that shit pls

>>71583225
Yeah man, Mac totally deserves all the success he has received and he stays humble af. I think he's aware of his fan base and is releasing this forthcoming album which is a little different sounding, to kind of trim the fat and see who'll stick around to see where he ventures next in his career.

>>71583225
His latest two singles are a really big leap in songwriting quality. I'm excited to see where it goes.

>>71583265
>he can't form his own opinions

>>71580249
I don't like Mac Demarco so I'm not sure why you replied to me faggot.

>>71583311
chillax bro and smoke a viceroy!

>>71583286
He's a pop artist. Grow up and realize that being "pop" isn't a denigrating term.

>>71583328
see
>>71583311

>>71583339
>He's a pop artist.

name another pop artist who writes and plays all his instruments by himself

don't put him in that shit

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>>71583286
>honestly thinking mac demarco does not write pop music
>being such a redditor that you get offended when music you like gets referred to as pop music

>>71583341
see>>>71579671

>>71583359
show me a pop song like any of macs stuff

>>71583370
C

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>>71583265
>>71583311
>>71583328
>>71583341
>>71583370

>>71583355
>pop is defined by the amount of instruments played by the primary artist

You are fucking stupid.

>>71583385
>>71583395
see>>>71579671

>>71583401

>i can't prove him wrong so i'll resort to personal attacks
yawn

>>71583380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGh97zsBfWk

>>71583417
Dude ed Sheeran is pop and plays everything

>>71579804
Swans fan detected

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>>71583463
not true btw

>>71583425
thats not a pop song
show me a pop song that sounds like that

>>71583380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mnDSI-fRp4

>>71583417
You're argument is so nonsensical it didn't need a proper response.

They play his music in fucking grocery stores, for Christ's sake. Mac is pop, just accept it.

>>71583516
>They play his music in fucking grocery stores
lmao no they don't
any examples pls?

>>71583530
What do you want me to do? Go to a grocery store, wait for them to play a Mac song and fucking film it?

>>71583513
sounds nothing like mac
are you even trying?

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>>71583530
I work at Whole Foods. They play his music all the time.

Anyway, since you are stamping your feet like a child, let me hoist the definition of pop from Wikipedia for you.

>Pop music is eclectic, and often borrows elements from other styles such as urban, dance, rock, Latin, and country; nonetheless, there are core elements that define pop music. Identifying factors include generally short to medium-length songs written in a basic format (often the verse-chorus structure), as well as the common use of repeated choruses, melodic tunes, and hooks.
>as well as the common use of repeated choruses, melodic tunes, and hooks.

A format that Mac utilizes on every song. It's okay. I know the truth hurts.

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>>71583573
okay so you have no proof
as i thought idiot!

>>71583506
>thats not a pop song
Yes it is. It has a verse/chorus/verse structure and a prominent melody. It's pop.
>show me a pop song that sounds like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RheJW2nhkb8

>>71583587
thats funny because i work at whole foods also and i never heard mac played once.
mind telling me your store number?
hmmmmmm

>>71583594
no its not pop and again those two songs sound NOTHING ALIKE

>>71583610
Is this how you spend your time? Crafting really lazy baits? It's pathetic. I'm going to stop responding now. You win. Enjoy the rest of high school.

>>71583633
>i can't prove my lies
fuck off faggot

>>71583630
Do you think that pop is a term that is exclusively used to describe top 40 shit like Justin Beiber? You seem quite 14.

Kek mac threads really bring out the worst in /mu/. Pretty ironic considering the type of music he releases.

>>71583671
>more personal attacks because lack of argument
jfc
i know exactly what pop is and mac isn't and you can't even prove it
don't EVER disrespect his music like that again

>>71583630
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/f2492c31-54a8-4347-a1fc-f81f72873bbf
>popular
>played on pop music stations
>adheres to pop song conventions
>not pop
You're clearly retarded or trolling so I'm going to follow >>71583633's lead and stop responding to you.

>>71583745
Obvious false flag trying to make Mac fans look bad. Try again.