best 'proto-punk' albums?

>>71577991
raw power

>>71577991
Why is this album so perfect bros? And how come she made another masterpiece right after and then turned shitty forever?

Marquee Moon

>>71578064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnAR2qB24yQ

>>71578037
any stooges to be honest

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The New York Dolls is my personal favourite

>>71577991
i like this album but she never shuts the fuck up. Every moment of music has vocals on top of it. It gets really annoying

White Light/White Heat
Monster Movie

>>71577991
the first verse is probably the most cringeworthy line of all times

>>71578136
but that's the point

>>71578136
do you even Les Illuminations bruh?
>>71578177
T. middle-brow poseur who thinks Vonnegut and Orwell are intellectual giants.

>>71578132
This

>>71578237
please don't try to defend it
I could be anyone
the line is bad and ruins the album

>>71578051
is that the cover of a gay porn film?

>>71578105
exactly

>>71578514
the line is iconic and makes the album

>>71579100
no
objectively

>>71579100
Agreed

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>>71577991
>>71578157

Black Monk Time

>>71579100
>>71579259
actually I'm wrong
It really is iconic
but in the worst way

>>71578064
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwjxjc610tbSAhVB02MKHTWVDBUQwqsBCBwwAA&usg=AFQjCNF1sHlk2z9QIx28jtvfnGP_UlkifA&sig2=fbeH40xYLjQ1JMfYSipCSA#

Also read the books she published, they're fantastic

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>>71577991

>>71579259
>>71579300
nigga read a book for once and don't built your whole fucking taste. You're so influenced by the stupid-ass fedora meme that you drag down a great simple use of Christian imagery. She's simply saying she's removed from Western society. Again read Rimbaud you nut, it's literally just about repeating the idea of breaking illusory laws.

>>71579324
*taste around memes

>>71579314
Wrong link
https://youtu.be/VR7LkcvnMZo

>>71579324
you should stop making assumptions about me
the idea she's trying to convey is very simple, namedropping rimbaud is unnecessary
I don't even have a problem with the rest of the song
it's just that line
she was young I get it
but
it's just so bad

>>71579500
If it's objectively bad then why was the opening lyric so acclaimed when Horses got released? Why is it the one iconic moment from the album along with the breakdown from Land? It's not so much that I like to assume shit about you but you obviously seem to miss some of the context surrounding the line. It was Patti Smith's introduction to the world after all.

>>71577991
Definitely not this one. Horses is by FAR the shittiest of the "classic" albums I have ever heard. I'm certain if it weren't made by a woman no one would give a fuck.

>>71579549
>Jesus is a very good example of one who questions. He was questioning the elders when he was 12, and I did the same thing when I was 11 or 12. They don’t like to be questioned, but it’s important to be inquisitive. It’s one of the beautiful things about being an American and about our inalienable right, supposedly, to question our government.

the context makes it even worse
how can anyone defend this

>>71580168
>because muh women
She looks like a man no one gives a shit about that. It's just a perfectly produced record with fantastic lyrics.

>>71577991
>>71578051
trash

>>71578037
>>71578069
>>71578132
>>71578157
gods

>>71580590
>She looks like a man no one gives a shit about that
Do you like at music you stupid fucking moron or do you listen to it ?

>>71580747
look at music*
FUCK I called you a moron then did a typo!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry buddy I guess we can be morons together :)

>>71580747
It's you who brought in superficial retarded politics into a discussion about an album made in 1975. So no, it's just you.

KICK OUT THE JAAAAMS MOTHERFUCKER

swans playin' in my city right now, i am not there

>>71577991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOSirrKQAU

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great documentury exists too, would rec. "A Band Called Death".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl3FstCc_OY

>>71577991
Nirvana Nevermind

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>proto-autism