RIP Rock Music

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>>71560236
He's kind of right desu
Is Daltrey /ourguy/?

>>71560236
WTF I LOVE RAP NOW?

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>>71560236
>The only people saying things that matter are the rappers

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Oh look, another one

>>71560236
literally who

>>71560236
Rock just spent its energy, just like many other genres before it: classical, jazz, soul, blues, etc. Everything that could be done in rock has been done already.

>"What a drag it is getting old!"
>gets old anyways
Nah, he's a hypocrite

>>71560264
yes

>>71560409
The Who?!

>>71560409
kek

>>71560410
>implying pop and rap aren't just the same thing over and over again

rock never dies always remember that

>>71560401
I will never understand how Gambino gets panned as "cheesy" or whatever and this faggot's getting popular

>>71560236
>>71560402
Are we just gonna ignore the fact The Who and RHCP are shit?

>>71560619
Chili Peppers maybe, but the Who are probably the greatest classic rock band of all time. I would put them ahead of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones easily.

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they're all at it

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>>71560619
>The Who are shit?

>>71560697
>Implying classic rock is good

fuck off

>>71560747
>writing off whole genres
literally fag-tier

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>>71560236
>Literally who?
>Looks him up
oH SHIT! I MEMED!

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>>71560619
>the who are shit

>>71560236
Are there any good music news sites anymore? I used to this CoS was good, but then they started posting political shit, and fucking super bowl commercials for some reason?

Any suggestions?

>>71560820
listen to Who's Next and Tommy

>>71560236
I don't get why dad-rockstars say this all the time. Rocks gotten a lot less angry and political, and rock musicians aren't really "saying things" as much as they used to, but that just means its less about the "rock star" image and more about the music, which is definitely a good thing.

>>71560725
Bob Dylan was never proper rock and roll
>>71560409
get out

>>71560888
Ha, no.

>>71560906
>not getting the joke
a moment of silence for anon

>>71560888
>not Quadrophenia and Sell Out

You have 10 seconds to name a rock band from the last 25 years that is both critically acclaimed and culturally relevant. Please note that commercial success is not synonymous with cultural relevance.

Impossible Mode: No Nirvana.

Oh wait, you can't.

R.I.P Rock

Please note:
>The Strokes, Arctic Monkeys, Queens of the Stone Age, The Mars Volta, Franz Ferdinand, The Smashing Pumpkins, Oasis, Bloc Party, The Libertines, Blur, Pulp, Suede, and Interpol are not culturally relevant, as they have had no real cultural impact. You're not going to hear their music being played at a high school dance or have a large number of normies sharing them on Facebook or in the future remembering them the way you would a contemporary artist who actually has made a cultural impact (e.g. Beyonce, Kendrick, Kanye, Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber)
>Jack White is not a culturally relevant artist. Seven Nation Army may be a culturally relevant track but having only one culturally relevant track indicates a lack of longevity and thus a lack of cultural relevance as artists.
>Weezer only have one critically acclaimed album and it came out 23 years ago.
>Muse, Foo Fighters, Coldplay, Tool, Kings of Leon, The 1975, Alt-J, The Black Keys, Pearl Jam, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Blink-182, Brand New, Taking Back Sunday, Mumford & Sons, and Red Hot Chili Peppers are not critically acclaimed.
>The Flaming Lips, Sufjan Stevens, Vampire Weekend, Tame Impala, The National, The Hold Steady, Dinosaur Jr, Deerhunter, Mac DeMarco, Porcupine Tree, Beach House, Ween, Titus Andronicus, Bon Iver, Pixies, Spoon, Pavement and Modest Mouse are far too niche to be considered culturally relevant. This is also true for all metal.
>R.E.M., Bruce Springsteen, and U2 have not been critically acclaimed in the last 25 years.
>LCD Soundsystem, Radiohead and Arcade Fire are not rock bands

>>71560236
Yeah because he's probably plugged in to music these days

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>>71560236
Rock is dead. Sellout 'Indie' killed it. No one knows where to go from here. We've all shrunken back into a days of yore obsession with obscure things thinking that's where the good times were and the good tunes. the 'rock' became soft rock pop bands. smooth rock radio for old people who listened to Built to Spill and Pavement. The rock station that is still rock has to play old stuff for anything good or original (for its time) and the new stuff they play seems to be all of these new metal bands that sprung up out of some kind of metal that no one ever liked anyway and the singers just put women on a pedestal in their lyrics and it seems pathetic as fuck. Rock is dead right now.

>>71560236
Unfortunatly ol' Roger hasn't reached a dead end. RnR is alive but not well. He needs to remember where he came from, the kids are alright. Die already you old pathetic fuck.
>never thought I'd feel that way
>>71560725
And Bob can fuck off too.

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>>71560970
TFW you realize Nickelback is probably the greatest rock band of the last twenty years

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>>71560970

>>71560236
>october 27, 2016
:yawn:

>>71560264
He's more than just /ourguy/

He's redpilled
>wtf I love The Who now

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>>71560236

>>71561082
Nickelback isn't rock, they're just country with electric guitars and a less twangy singer.

>>71560619
Assuming this isn't b8....

Quadrophenia is one of the most important albums of the 70s. It merges punk rock and progressive rock, and the clash between the two genres is symbolized by the album's plot / theme of multiple personalities, mood swings, and rage.

It's the classic that doesn't get nearly as much recognition as it should.

>>71560608
>"Everything I'm sayin' I'm super sayin' like Goku"
Yeah, no idea at all.

>>71561557
To be fair that's like a cut B-side and from six fucking years ago

Chance is still acting like Chance

>>71560970
great yer back hows it going mr pasta rock is ded mane?

Rap is still shit tho

all music in this day and age is kinda shit tho and like

modern music seems lost really.

When did The (Literally) Who ever "say things that matter"?

>>71560970
>Radiohead and Arcade Fire are not rock bands
¿Que?

just accept it let rock die and shut up about it you whiney numale music nerds

>still not recognizing the ascendancy of metal
let's be clear
if you want your music to literally talk at you, then you aren't really in the arena of music anymore

>>71562345
i get the feeling many of these old fuckers bought into the myth that their boomer journalist friends made for them. i mean, how can you trudge through another "my generation" without convincing yourself that it's this Imporant Cultural Staple and not just a fifty year-old pop song?

>>71560236
>The only people saying things that matter are the rappers
Hip hop has literally never done anything of significance and will not for the foreseeable future. If you want music with meaning listen to Wagner or something.

>White people are the devil -_- xDD
>t.Rappers
Damn...

>>71560938
>not all four mentioned so far as well as My Generation, Live at Leeds and the Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy compilation
>>71561121
Are the Who /ourclassicrockband/?

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>>71560970
We've got a live one here!

I always like to go back to Ian Hunter's words "rock & roll will never die as long as children feel the need to laugh and cry" and while I feel dad rock is pretty barren right now indie rock has taken the torch at least for me

If rock musicians would start writing songs about drugs and hos it would get relevant again.

>>71562831
Rappers discussing actual current social issues is a lot more meaningful than Wagner ripping off medieval legends.

There is literally no music worth taking seriously that isn't classical music.

>>71561197
Punk is too reactionary to be relevant in today's world.

>>71560970
The Strokes, Ty Segall, Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire, DIIV,

>>71560509
>implying pop and rap aren't just the same thing over and over again
They're not. If you pay attention there's some changes in the instrumentation from time to time. Mainly due technological advance.

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Where did the myth come from that if a genre isn't producing popular, critically acclaimed music it's dead? Does this mean that ambient is dead? Is IDM dead? Is metal dead? The whole obsession with popular music is retarded. Very few genres are ever on the popular sphere at one time, and they vary from place to place. Genres die when people stop making new music it is, a genre isn't dead just because it is not popular, stop this fucking meme.

>>71560970
i love this pasta so much

>>71560970
>implying music critics have anything resembling good taste

Nothing what rappers ever said have any value whatsoever.

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>>71560236

Wait but people have been saying hip hop died 10 years ago

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>>71560236
all Music is dead

there is no more living music.

>>71564397
Name one technology from the last 10 years that changed pop and rap

>>71560236
It's not dead it's just chilling underground right nos

>>71560409
underrated

>>71565070
>metal not mentioned
Truly the best genre.

You see, if a genre is really dead no-one will say it's dead. For people to recogniser a genre as one that is waining that genre needs to have at least enough life in it to be culturally relevant enough to be noticeable.

>>71560236
He's right. You know the last time I heard a rock song with meaningful lyrics? Never, it hasn't happened in my lifetime and I was born in 1996.

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>>71565193

Here's an updated version.

>>71561039
Rock/metal killed itself based on the goddamn genres. Post-Tranquilite Gothenburg Melodeath, Garage Fill post-metal, Ambient Rockabilly, etc..

>>71565239
Antichrist Superstar.

>>71565247
Serious question do you need any talent to become a music journalist?

>>71560970
sonic youth

nice pasta btw

>>71565286
>Released October 8, 1996

I was born on November 26th, my point still stands.

>>71565305
No it doesn't take much effort to either pander to or trigger music fans. They lap it up whatever.

Who cares what that old plep thinks

desu he has a point. even thinking back to the 90s it was a completely different world.

>rose-colored glasses etc. etc.
I love music now and feel it's probably better than ever, I am just saying that whole culture that Flea mentioned above is just dead and that kinda sucks.

>Tr00 RAWK is dead guys, I'm not out of touch
heard it a million times already

>>71565076
Not from the last 10 years but DAWs have changed music

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>>71565733
>I love music now and feel it's probably better than ever

>>71562266
Not when Grimes exists. She's the only hope.

>>71565953
>Not from the last 10 years
Then try again

>>71561197
>The sex pistols released anti-anarchist songs
>Anarchy in the UK
>anti-anarchist
okay
>Blondie
>Punk band
>Blondie
>Punk
okay
Already took note to never read any article written by that Affinity shit

>>71566983
>Implying amplifiers, electric guitars, effects, sampling or synthesizers had their deepest impact in their first 10 years.

>>71560769
Classic rock is the reason rock is dead. Millions and millions of people only care about the classics and never listen to new stuff

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>>71560409
aw shet

>>71564397
>They're not. If you pay attention there's some changes in the instrumentation from time to time. Mainly due technological advance.
Who cares about changes in the instrumentation when most of these songs have 5 chord during 5 minutes? Pop and rap are trash.

>>71567826
it's not classic rock's fault that new rock music isn't interesting to most people

>>71567468
Stop implying things that I didn't mean

the who suck, even quadrophenia

grimes > the who

>>71568200
N-n-no

>>71568234
>grimes > the who
Not even debatable

>>71568234
this

>>71560970
the killers?

>>71565247
>How a Generation Single Handedly Killed the Music Industry
>Music Industry Is Dead
They got one thing right at least.

>The only people saying things that matter are the rappers
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>>71560970
fuck cultural relevancy mang, doesnt make music good or not

>>71571218
Go to bed dad.

Rain Drop

>>71571459
FUCK OFF CUNT

>>71571218

Your forced laughter does nothing to change the fact that he's right.

>>71571553
Shut the fuck up retard

>>71560236
>>71560264
Daltrey and Townshend are /ourguys/.
The Who is arguably the greatest rock band of all time (I'd personally put them just behind King Crimson). The Who Sell Out, Quadrophenia, Tommy, Who's Next, Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy, Who Are You, and A Quick One are all 10/10 GOAT albums.
It's a damn shame that they're not discussed more on /mu/. I'd absolutely put TWSO in my top five albums of all time.

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Rock's been "dead" since the mid-70's.

Too many journalists and the like have this idea that if rock music isn't at Woodstock/Elvis/Beatles level cultural force that it is "dead."

The Beatles breaking up was pretty much the end of the beginning.

Mid-70s-Early-80s:

Disco was more relevant than rock.

Early-to-Mid 80's:

Synthpop, Pop, and R&B were more culturally relevant.

Mid-80s-Early-90s:

Pop, R&B, and Hip-Hop were more relevant.

Rock has had rebound periods with the likes of Nirvana and the awful Nu-Metal phenomenon of the early-00s, but it's been dead (and when I say dead, I mean as something that influences "youth culture" to a degree and drives "political/social debates" in mainstream media [i.e. the most controversial artist of the 80's wasn't GG Allin, Judas Priest, Ozzy, etc, it was Madonna]) since the 70's. Punk was too brief a movement.

But it's not dead as a musical form still worth listening to. There's numerous great modern rock acts out there.

>>71560236
This has been true for over a decade. Rap started overtaking all music in the late 90's. How is this news?

>>71571553
What do rappers say that matters, friendo?

>>71560970
Bring this dumb and not getting the Internet and digitization has made the playing feel so big that 'relevance' is not spoon fed between 3 artists now.

>>71572928
>No one knows what it means but it's provocative...
>Gets the people GOING !

Sure there are all these meme rappers that receive a disproportionate amount of attention and all these overblown analysis on their discourse, but you also have rappers like Kendrick, etc speaking on social issues.

You may dismiss them as "muh blacks whining" but they and have resonance with their wide fanbase (and the acknowledgement of critics). Even Macklemore dedicated some of his music towards a more conscious effort (even if it was shitty).

On comparison Rock seems more introspective and closed off ? Not that this is bad but I struggle to think of rock bands adressing social issues of our era in their music, being popular for it. It's kinda depressing that rock seem... neuteured like that.

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>>71560476
THE NAME OF THE BAND!

>>71572141
>Early-to-Mid 80's:
>Synthpop, Pop, and R&B were more culturally relevant

Yeah, nobody was listening to rawk in 1980-85 and Van Halen, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, and AC/DC totally didn't sell millions of albums back then.

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I think we're onto something guys

>>71572141

>popular = culturally relevant

>>71575789
I agree with a lot of this 2bh
I think it's bad for the medium of video games to keep adhering to this demographic since gamers and critics are usually retarded and don't know what actually works in a video game or what makes a good game.

Like there are so many terrible games that gamers hype up every day that we could just delete and it wouldn't change a thing. Plus there are so many game devs trying to harpoon these morons and end up making shitty games because of that.

>>71560236
>media spends every waking moment since Cobain's death preaching that rock is dead
>anyone who wants to do anything progressive or experimental is labeled as cringey
>only music that makes it to the radio is sterile drop D riffs and pop punk
>bands like Dream Theater somehow become the face of not only their genre but are wrongly attributed to others as well, because "complexity" is now a genre in the eyes of the public, and then they have the audacity to release something like The Astonishing
>shitters like NMH ruin the image of the softer end of guitar music

Rock is dead because the media killed it. No artist wants to think outside the box because they might only make 10 million dollars instead of 15. The fact that buttrock from the 70s and 80s is more memorable that pop rock garbage from the entire last 20 years speaks volumes, although i will admit that i am glad new genres are gradually emerging over time still.

>>71560427
what a drag it is getting old was the animals
you're thinking of "will you still need me, will you still feed me, when i'm 64"

>>71560970

Korn was critically acclaimed and their earlier albums were pretty cool, so was System of a Down.

I'm not the kind of guy that shits on threads, comes in yelling "Your sacred cow is a farce!", but The Who is not that great at all.

Not to diminish whatever they may have contributed to those they influenced (whom then influenced bands I like) or their skill as musicians playing their instruments, but this music does not hold up. There's pretty much nothing still relevant or enjoyable, he's not a good vocalist, and they don't 'rock' hard enough to be impressive despite these shortcomings. I can appreciate other classic rock, but this is as bland as it gets.

tommy was trash anyway

>>71560608
when chance says dumb shit it's usually tongue in cheek and kinda goofy, you can tell by how he says it. gambino on the other hand like big sean thinks his terrible lines are sick bars and delivers them that way. that's the way I look at it at least

>>71567410
Blondie was absolutely part of the original CBGB punk scene with Patti Smith, The Ramoes, Talking Heads, Television, etc...

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>>71560236
I didn't know music was about saying "things"
proof dad rocker are bad artists and people.

>>71560236
Who gives a shit?

>>71576180
>>71576189
>he hasn't listened to Sell Out

>>71572141
>if rock music isn't at Woodstock/Elvis/Beatles level cultural force that it is "dead."
Stupid boomers going to boomer. Old farts pining for the fjords.

>>71563851
can't tell if that dude was serious but this entirely. I don't know why classical heads think their beloved composers are these untouchable saints

>>71561197
this is the dumbest idea, fantano did a video recently on this that I actually agree with. just cause our presidents an idiot doesn't mean the population is gonna wanna hear punk music more (pro tip, they won't and probably never will. as a mass cultural phenomena that shit is done) and things have been pretty shitty for awhile anyway

>>71568001
>listening to music only for chord changes
>letting theory define music instead of using it as a tool to analyze it
>being this autistic
some of the best songs ever written have only two chords anon

>>71571218
kys

>>71576372
Fucking Ligeti wrote etudes that used only a single note.

I want the hip hop meme to end, and I want instruments back.

>>71576391
>being this autistic
do you realize that instruments are used in making hip hop? also, you don't have to listen to it if you don't want to.

>>71576388
I spent a year in music school and studied classically for 12 and I've grown to hate the classical audience. some are understanding and self aware but more than half cling to their beethoven and mozart like a child and scream from their mountain top about how new music isn't "complex" or "sophisticated"!! it's like jesus dude, lots of modern theory wasn't even around when Bach was writing. classical music schools are breeding grounds for autistic douchebagery

>>71576428
I want a focus on instrumental music back is what I mean.

Also yes I know, what I meant is I want the cultural relevance of hip hop to dissipate and be replaced by something else. That's not to say what's going on in hip hop now isn't exciting, it seems to be moving onto good things. But I'm tired of it being the dominating genre.

You don't have to tell me that there's more music available now than ever before, I'm not on le wrong generation pill, I just think it'd be exciting if we moved onto something else soon.

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>>71576180
Listen to Live at Leeds and Live at the Isle of Wight, as well as any other high quality live recordings from 67-75. Moon, Entwistle, and Townshend are quite possibly the absolute peak of 3 piece rock. It's the maximum amount of volume and power you can get out of Bass, Guitar, and Drums. Most of the time Roger is slapping together some inaudible tambourines, with the other 3 just creating absolutely inhuman sounds around him.

>>71576475
instrumental focus as in no singing or strumming guitars/playing pianos etc? and I feel that, raps even starting to go that way. 2 chains had a live choir piano and band on his fallon performance and it sounded pretty dope.
all that aside though I think some of the most exciting stuff is when it all comes together. danny browns newest album is a good example, the beats are super lush and have a lot of variety of instruments going on. death grips with bottomless pit is another good example, or on gp. in terms of the cultural spotlight I get what you're saying though.

hey, it could be worse. EDM could have been the most popular genre (fuck I hope that never makes a resurgence)

>>71576372
different strokes for different folks
if two chords are enough for you that's fine, but I believe in talent and complex compositions, in dedication and flawless execution
mediocrity doesn't satisfy me

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>>71576539
It definitely could be worse, you're right about that.

Cultural relevance breeds creative albums like The Money Store and Atrocity Exhibition, if Hip Hop wasn't the dominating genre that it is, I doubt we would ever see albums like that. That is why it'd be nice to see something else take the spotlight.

I mean instrumental music very broadly, it'd just be nice to see the return of live instruments being performed for albums, bands playing together, etc.

>>71565193
Metal died in 1993. Only 10 albums have been released since then that [tl;dr]

>>71576605
I don't think that's too far gone though, music festivals really keep it alive especially. while I do really like rap shows (if done right) when I'm at a festival I still usually see mostly live bands.

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>>71576517
This. Whoever claims that the Who doesn't rock hard enough simply hasn't listened to them.

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>caring about "cultural relevance"

>>71577671
>will take his wife's last name
Hey, you calling FDR a nu-male?

>>71577693

And Jack White, who's the biggest cuck of them all (still uses the ex's last name)

>>71560970
Gorrilaz
Ez

>>71577671
what so you're determining ideology by eye shape now

this is a whole new area of eugenics i didn't even know existed

>>71560402
what the hell is he talking about? he's talking like rock just started being corporate recently. what a fucking dolt.

Music is dead

>>71560236

>guy who never said anything interesting in his music

>>71560970

The fact that your pasta has about 40 caveats betrays your point.

If music is dead, I guess it's up to me to revive it

>>71560409
yes

Pop is Dead...

>>71579032
Not yet

>>71579032
...It just gave up.

>>71560402
>>71560236
>aging celebrities try to stay relevant and are bitter that mortality is real and time will turn its back on, yes even celebrities
sour grapes

>>71580373
You clearly never understood that fable.

>>71576233
Thos seems about right. Sometimes Gambino will have a great bar, but he acts like every single one is perfection. I see this as a good thing, but it's led to lots of garbage from him.

Is it just me or is there a type of person who really gets a hard on at the idea of rock music being dead because they are too stupid or old to know bands like 21 pilots or tame impala or the 1975.

>>71560236
>>71560402
they're all copying what Dee Dee Ramon said years ago

>>71560970
the fact they're looking to be cultural relevant is not the proper idea behind rock n roll. rock is about going against the grain. instead of playing clean they go with distortion and so on and so forth with other examples like rock being targeted and angst teenagers. well those teenagers grew up and are/were behind the driving force of the workforce and its economy. so by gaining commercial acclaim is not what rock n roll is about and either was the idea behind hip hop. rap has sold out and all they promote is commercial success in their music as well as their lifestyle. popular rappers aren't writing about the hardships of being a minority in horrible social conditions like the early blues did. now it's all about boats and hoe behind some catchy trap beat.

only the bands that keeping playing rock after its death from the popular view, will be the real actually rock stars.

>another death of brick and mortar store as the middle man of the industry/thread

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>>71560970
>Modest Mouse is far too niche to be considered culturally relevant.

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>>71581045
Know you're being sarcastic with the band choices, but I do think there's some truth to this in that I do think the people who say this sort of thing stopped buying new music as teenagers and only have exposure to anything new accidentally flipping past it on mainstream radio stations.
Music videos aren't generally broadcast on television anymore, and you know the internet is inaccessible to codgers.

>>71581406
idk about that, the other day my grandpa commented on a whitehouse song i posted to facebook

>>71581512
I think it's fair to say that most Boomers and older aren't well versed in how to use the internet and aren't looking up new music, popular or not, of their own volition during their free time. Most can't even use the fucking TV remote.

>>71572928
blacks are oppressed, evil racist cops are everywhere, fuck trump, etc., etc. it's so deep and brave and makes you think.

>>71572141
Almost as if making a controversial statement is a viable tactic for getting attention.

Rock is old at this point. It went from being a rebellious youth movement to be played at political conventions filled with great grandpas. Rap in comparison is still young.

>>71578534

That's what makes it funny

>>71560970
Steve Harvey