/prod/ - Music Production General

>midi controller was supposed to ship on friday
>it got sent to the wrong city
damn you canada post

That's the dumbest fucking picture I've seen. What's the point of showing additive and subtractive options on the same image? It's just going to confuse people that haven't been doing it for a long time.

Pro tips:

For basically anything other than bass and kick drums, remove anything below 100Hz and make a decent notch around 300Hz. Take some frequencies between 10kHz and 20kHz out because you're probably using a shitty mic and this will counter that a little bit. Also remove a decent bit of 1kHz, also known as the telephone frequency.

>>71537494
>What's the point of showing additive and subtractive options on the same image?
... to show what adding and subtracting in those ranges does?

>>71537494
>you're probably using a shitty mic
also, most people in these threads are probably not using a mic at all

>>71537531

Right, except adding 100-150Hz is just going to add boomy nonsense into your recording, and adding anything around 1k is going to sound like dogshit. Also, "digital harshness" is not an EQ range.

>>71537544

...then what the fuck is the point of even trying to discuss "production"? All the pro audio tips in the world won't make laptop recordings sound better.

>>71537613
>adding 100-150Hz is just going to add boomy nonsense into your recording
if there's already enough low end, yes, in which case why would you do any additive EQing?
>adding anything around 1k is going to sound like dogshit
also just not true
>>71537613
>...then what the fuck is the point of even trying to discuss "production"?
i didnt mean they use laptop mics, i meant most people here use synths and samples instead of recording vocals and live instruments

>>71537494
10-20 k is not right, the image has it right at 4-9 or even 12k for sibilance.

You should respond to your material and what it needs not blanketly cutting and boosting according to what a thing tells you. Sometimes 1 k is fine and sometimes you don't need to high pass. Someone might mess up their sound if they think they have to follow that. Sibilance is important to contain though, even on samples

There is no fucking cheat sheet with production, no short cuts, if you're in it, you can't whizz through and skip shit while learning. It'll come back to get you in the end, because you'll inevitably say 'why does my mix sound no good?' and it'll be that thing you thought wasn't important to learn.

Here's some vocal tutorials

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vocal+mixing

So how do you guys keep your files organized?

I've got hundreds of gigs of unused wav files, many of them filled with large gaps of silence, probably never to be used. I wanted to keep them all so that I could go back and listen to them/sample them later on, but it is getting so cluttered and unorganized that I am starting to doubt the whole idea.

here's a different question for you guys
if i lower the buffer size in my daw, does that affect the playback sound quality? for some reason i used to think that but now i'm not sure

>>71539760

No. The buffer is like a bucket with a hole in it, having more data in the buffer just safeguards against the bucket running dry, doesn't affect sound quality as long as there's still data in it.

>tfw you want to start making music so you download the Ableton Live trial but realize you're too retarded to understand any of it

>>71539760
Buffer Size has nothing to do with sound quality, it just means how many samples ahead it "looks", that's all.

>>71539862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dza0RKSVLCo

have fun my friend

>>71539870
Thanks, Anon.

This may sound stupid, but I'd like to start making music, and while I can play the guitar, I'm not that great at it and I feel like it hinders my creativity by not being able to play what I'm thinking.

>>71539833
>>71539870
cheers

>>71539913
That's okay, you can either record at a slower speed or do it in multiple takes or even get VST's and program stuff on the piano roll. Nowadays, sky is the limit.

tell me my starter drum kit sounds good

https://clyp.it/hqotpjeu

>>71540260

>>71537444
hello and welcome to busy works beatsssss dot com

https://clyp.it/pllcluik

Put me on blast.

>>71539862
I did 2 years of music production at college and my Logic skills are like a toddlers. I can mic up, record, mix and work with samples but EQing with Fz graphs feels like the most complicated shit ever.

>>71537444
>therealnigga.jpeg

What is the DAW that I should get familiar with If I really want to get into /prod/?

>>71540985
Most of them have trials, download them and see which interface/workflow you like I would say.

Personally I started with Cubase (if you don't count garageband), been using Ableton for about 10 years now and am loving every second.

>>71541072
Ableton seems to be the most used, so I think I'll give it a try

>>71540440
The flow is pretty nice. I'm not a huge fan of the autotune-ish chorus, but I like the beat.

>walking home from the club-wave
https://clyp.it/qqfb4m1r

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Just copped a pair. How do I care for them so that they'll last me many years?

>>71541974
don't drop them?

>>71540985
All DAW's have the same capabilities but it'll be easier to communicate with other producers if you use either FL or Ableton since the majority use these

>>71541974
They don't really need care.

>>71542122
That's it? I thought you had to like destatic them or something

>>71541095
ableton is industry standard so no complaints. /unless you want to spend your time learning jt and producing nothing for a while.

a less intense DAW might be a good idea. extremely frustrating hobby/that passion so maybe not jump right into software people take years to learn properly.

>>71541974

The electronics in powered monitors are more resilient than the physical air-moving parts, the speaker drivers.

Drivers have a limit to how far they can travel either outwards or inwards (their excursion) and once the limit has been passed even once it'll be damaged by that travel.

So physical damage to the drivers from over-volume is what needs to be avoided most, and of course dropping as >>71542122 mentions won't do them much good either, especially if the speaker driver hits something on the way down.

>>71542168
Word, thanks. I didn't think about over volume. I didn't realize speakers could get louder than what they can handle.

>>71540260
>https://clyp.it/hqotpjeu
i like this anon
it has a certain charm to it
i can see you doing shows for like 75 skinny heroin girls smoking cigarettes

>>71540260
oh yeah and forget about your drum tones
youre playing live drums and recording them so youre already miles ahead of all these other rap/techno phaggots here

>>71542404
thanks man; it's a shame that there aren't more people on this thread making live music. absolutely nothing against electronic music, it would just be nice to be able to talk to other people making similar music about production

>>71542241

Matching amplifiers to speakers is a complex subject but what happens in a nutshell is that an amp will be designed to be capable of driving a speaker to over-excursion - this way the amp under normal conditions can cope with fast transients to get closer to the ideal ability to reproduce square waves.

>PSI "Adaptive Output Impedance" technology makes might be a good solution, both for handling large transients and also for "slowing down" the speaker driver to avoid it overshooting the mark once reached:

http://www.psiaudio.com/en/our-products/a14-m-studio/

So at its upper limit even a matched amp/speaker combination has the capability to momentarily move a voice coil beyond its design excursion and unfortunately a moment is all it takes for that physical part to pick up damage.

>>71542404
>hurr so hard to mic le droms, i am le enginering genios
lol why do rockfags suck their own dicks so hard?

>>71540260
it's alright, i'd put more high end on the snare but that's just preference

>>71542644
could you mic a kit properly?

what about a double bass?

Idk, just some experiment... The music is almost non-existent, I'm mainly just trying to create some interesting wall of sounds. The drums hit at 0:57

https://clyp.it/pdjxsam0

>>71542697
>could you mic a kit properly?
yes
>what about a double bass?
i dunno, never tried it and dont know anyone who plays

basic mic placement does not make you "miles ahead" of anyone lol

>>71542736
i think the namefag was talking about dedication

anyone can key out drums, quantize them and mess around a bit. actual drumming will teach you so much.

>>71542834
anyone can bang on a drum set too, there's just a higher financial barrier to entry. you can dedicate yourself equally to either one and if you're playing in real time on a nice responsive controller you can learn a lot about rhythm with it

>>71542644
yeah it's not hard to mic drums if you have a nice kit and a nice space. I'm in an 11x12 room with carpet and a drum set that sounds like ass to begin with. it's no small feat getting the drums to sound decent

>>71542872
drumming isn't just about tempo and grooves. you'll focus a lot more on song structure and how you and other instruments affect or compliment each other. i'd bet my life savings every top electronic producer has drummed to at least some extent in their lives

crescendos are a big problem, extremely hard to program a natural and effective one but a drummer could knock it up in 2 minutes

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Is there any non-shit DAW for android? I got a lot of free time in work and want to make something on the go.

Wow these threads really have gone down the shitter

>>71543531
i like dicking around in caustic on road trips

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>>71543083
>top electronic producer
>top electronic producer
>top electronic producer
>top electronic producer

>>71537444
kek

>>71543992
had to include electronic

because believe me the best producers in the world wouldn't be seen dead in this scene

https://soundcloud.com/saint-empire/wickedbeat-2/s-djQuN

Beat I'm workin on for an up and comer in Chicago

>>71544734
>https://soundcloud.com/saint-empire/wickedbeat-2/s-djQuN
not bad

>>71544734
>>71545142
read the OP before you spam your underage b& ass in a thread. Also, your beat is heinous and you should cut yourself in the bathtub.
reported

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Can I get a r8 pls?

https://clyp.it/ak4hvllz
>I think my bass is overpowering everything?

>>71540260
I could smoke weed to this / 10
But for real, I love the vibe you all are putting off. The only bad thing is that whole recording sounds you recorded it through a used campbell's soup can. #SAD!

>>71544551
>teh best producers r teh ones that make what i liek

>>71545959
you have never stepped foot near a compressor in your life

>>71546139
pretty sure my mixing is getting fucked up through my headphones

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hey prodd!! what's up with this hihat patterns ? how do i get this? i've tried swing + 16th but that isn't really working. any idea'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGSkQmfVA48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoGRZ_JMSKA

https://clyp.it/nywvfb4u

pretty much just a bunch of ideas that arent fully complete put into one thing. i seem to have trouble with sticking to one sound and completing anything

>>71547139
>https://clyp.it/nywvfb4u
your choices of synths are flat out terrible. That being said, its interesting and the vocals are pretty neat to listen too.

>>71547199
completely agree, its hard for me to find a synth i like

https://clyp.it/skfa4d55

heres another

Worst thread in a very long time. After a listen through the clyps here, I feel it's disgraceful that I identify myself with this community. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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>>71547462
This isn't a finish product thread. Go back to your soundcloud thread you cuck

This is a stupid question but how do i get the audio to play out of my monitors and through the headphones?

1:40 min bluesy progression, followed by a 2 min slowed down soul hook; all played on piano

https://clyp.it/u0lb3cmk

>>71548077
nm the us122 mkii can't do monitor and headphone output at the sametime I need to turn my monitors off to hear through the headphones. Looks like I need to upgrade.

>>71540260
Maybe turn the gain down on the snare and toms if you can, I think it'd clear them up a little. I like your sound though, I'd chain smoke in my living room to this.

how do I do vocal fx like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exY5hHN2J5I

>>71540440
I like the Cashmere Cat drip noises, your mix is real tight too.

>>71541460
Makes me want to play Brigador

>>71546894
the effect is due to the multilayered snare/clap and kick being off time, not the hats

>>71545959
turn up the drums

i love the stereo imaging in the bass

>>71548649
Thanks alot. I think I'm about halfway done with the mix still.
>>71541460
Thanks man. Hooks are not my strong point but I managed to get my hands on the Anatres Autotune VST so ive been fucking around with it.

I'm digging the tom rolls on this track alot. and that little synth line at 0:48 is pretty sweet too.

>>71548986
>managed to get my hands on the Anatres Autotune VST

you say that like its an achievement

>>71549030
My bad. But for me it was an achievement. I had been using GSnap and Pitcher forever now and finally just bought Antares instead.

>>71546120
just me, but thanks mane. bummer you think it sounds like it was recorded like that. the vocals are the only thing that should sound like that.
>>71548629
I actually put slight overdrive on all drum mics to drive the sound and hide some of the shitty overtones, but I agree they might be too loud. I have the tendency to mix drums a little too loud

>>71537444
i learned some useful stuff from his channel but his beats are trash tho

https://clyp.it/4m4ip0e0

>>71548711
Thanks man. Let me know if that clyp is any better :)

>>71548077
yes, that is a stupid question

>>71537494
>remove a decent bit of 1kHz

Yeah no, that's where most of the clarity comes thru. Telephones are band limited to that range because it's the most important for interpreting speech.

Thoughts on this? Decent or Shit?

https://clyp.it/sqvcq3q4

>>71550674
>https://clyp.it/sqvcq3q4
I like it.

>>71550674
hat should come in right away, kick clashes with an already weak bass and the sidechain doesn't help, breaks are good, and reverb sounds cheap to me and is being grossly overused

https://clyp.it/o4shubnh

hows the mixdown on this?

>>71550674
sounds great but it is very thick, try and use some mid/side stuff to make space for all the elements

>>71549915
they can still be louder, keep them in mono but turn them up more, use some parallel compression or something

>>71537444
lol

Some trash beat I made using the little mermaid trailer.

https://clyp.it/pdf5ruhs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usl5u9ruA0U

>>71548505
>I need to turn my monitors off to hear through the headphones
that shouldn't be the case

Opinions on the Roland MC-505?

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looking to cop an electric drumset, making a small room into a secondary practice place and acoustic drums are just too big. Does anyone know of any MODERN models with this same hexagon pads? Im a sucker to this look

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>tfw spend more time setting drivers and other shit up over recording songs
>tfw entire RPM Challenge album was spent setting up JACK and missed the entire thing
>tfw SoundFont/Fluidsynth drums sound like ass but too poor to even buy an eBay-tier drum kit
such is the life of the Ganoo/Linux musician

>>71548671
Thanks? I'd never heard of it before but it seems cool.

>>71548986
Thanks! I'm not so into autotune in general so I might be the wrong person to judge its quality. The rest of the song was booming though :)

https://clyp.it/ye0lfzva

how's my mixing? how could i improve? it's a sorta folky track with a choiry chorus and a baritone vocal

>>71553359
That guitar sounds random.

>>71542404
>lolz i am t3h k1ng of t3h music!!!
gtfo r-tard

>>71545683
its against the law to announce reports. reported``

>>71553546
How do you mean?

>>71548077
at the same time? you realize that is infact, retarded?

>>71537444
god bless him, i can get bitches pussy wet off them jazz chords

An idea I'm fucking with
Interested to hear what y'all think

>disclaimer: loud
https://clyp.it/ejicyofi

>>71554004
why is this 30 seconds long if its just exactly the same loop

p boring

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>>71554266
Supposed to be dissociative famalam

>>71537444
T E C H N O L O G Y

>>71542710
Please roast me so I can continue doing another project. I don't remember when I got a negative feedback, we have to even that out a lil bit. I thought 0:57 has potential but maybe it sucks - I never did anything similar. Tell me something famalams.

any composition tips for a beginner?

>>71556418
Learn theory, check out composition books. Learn about development of motifs and themes. Finish your stuff - something I still can't bring myself to do, kill me.

>>71537247
nigga you are the only one to bame. CPS is bae

>>71556695
lol, thanks man

>>71556705
lol how am i to "bame"? it's right there on the tracking page that it spent the weekend in a city that is three hours in the opposite direction from where it shipped out of because of a "processing error". sounds like you're just riding their dick.

>>71538504
I have a Sessions folder and a Samples folder. Samples is organized into type (Musical, environmental, impacts, etc) and from there into vendor of sample and then library name, with the extracted .wavs under that.

Sessions is organized into accounts for different work I do, with an old archived folder I put .zips of sessions into if I haven't touched them in over a year. There's an instrumentals folder for stuff I'm working on thats just me messing around, then names for particular people I'm working on alongside those folders.

All my actual plugin files/install directories are in another seperate directory, have no idea where but stuff seems to keep going there (and no it isn't the default).

>>71541974
Don't poke the cones. My baby brother nearly put a finger through my dad's original run NS10s when I last visited, man moved like the flash to stop that happening.

Thoughts on the vocal mix on this? Working on a project with a rapper friend of mine, our best stuff so far. Instrumental is mine, vox are his.

https://clyp.it/5nhzwnfx

Anyone know what Samiyam uses for that signature samiyam sound? I mean the actual instrument, not specific hardware. Want to use something like that in a song I'm working on in a specific part.


The one that kicks in at :17 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwnWFmAaQ2c

and :26 / :33 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1wiMUPoQE

>>71557328
I would lower the vocal less than half a db ha ha. You've got rid of the esses at least, but the vocal sounds like the highs have been pulled right down.

There aren't enough highs overall and quiet bass, it sounds like am radio

>>71557328
The vocals are too dry. They should be more wet. They dont fit with the track

https://clyp.it/mv00judq

Any tips for getting a punchier kick? Can't get it sounding right.

https://clyp.it/2evdf2hq
i have no idea what to do but i know im not happy with it.
also second project so be nice

>>71557726
Introduce some nice lush synth chords, maybe a big sweep to introduce them. Bring your bass down at least 4db, its really loud at the moment. Also your guitar sounds like its clipping at the start of each transient, if you've cut silence out check that you're not snatching the front of the waveform.

>>71557726
The bass drum is not in key with your guitar. Also when the bass drum hits twice real fast, the tail of the bass overlaps each other. Make sure the bass drum sample stops each time it hits. There has to be a setting for it somewhere

>>71557647
Try a little bit of 110Hz. Is that high hat hooked into the kick sample or have you layered them? If layered either cut it or turn it down a bit.

A trick I like to use for punchier drums is a 76-style compressor with a 1:1 ratio. Dial in enough input that you're only just not hearing it compress then gain match it with the dry signal, adds a lot of attack to drums.

>>71557792
I layered it with a stereo hit hat. The is one kick in the drum loop where I don't layer them together.

I also used slight distortion on the percussion track to try to make it thump after the compressor.

Thanks

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>>71557647

>>71557875
Don't layer it every time. Takes away from the impact of the kick. The distortion is fine, but that stereo hi-hat is pulling the attention out from the center.

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>>71557752
>>71557779

>Introduce some nice lush synth chords, maybe a big sweep to introduce them
i'll have to learn music theory but thanks.

>Also your guitar sounds like its clipping at the start of each transient, if you've cut silence out check that you're not snatching the front of the waveform.
not sure what you mean but the song i sampled is "Elizabeth" by "The airborne toxic event"

>The bass drum is not in key with your guitar.
again i'll have to learn music theory, but thanks

>Make sure the bass drum sample stops each time it hits. There has to be a setting for it somewhere
i'll find out how to fix it.

thanks for the replies

pic related is me

>>71557960
Listen to that click in the guitar notes. Not how it isn't there in the original song. That's what happens when you just cut a sound with no fade. If you haven't edited the sample at all, try bypassing your plugins one by one to eliminate the problem.

>>71537078
how do I make punchy, big but fast and tight heavy metal-like bass drums?

>>71548505
I have this interface and you are incorrect

Just turn up the volume on the phones and the monitors, and make sure your audio device is ASIO Yamaha Steinberg. As long as you have headphones and monitors plugged into the interface, and the monitors are turned on, everything should work.

>>71558105
mjuc

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Whats /prod/'s opinion on Slate Digital plugins?

https://clyp.it/ub3jnfuw

Just got into producing music. This is just the basic skeleton for the track, gonna need to make it a bit more dense.

>>71558591
I've never used them personally but I have a friend who picked them up on sale and swears by them, says he uses them on every track he mixes.

Asked this last thread and didn't get a response, but does anyone know of a good plugin/program to get a good scratching effect? I've played with VariFi and winding stuff down and back up really fast but its a super clunky solution, and definitely not time efficient. Ideas?

>>71558690
Reaper does that

>>71558591
quantity instead of quality type shit just as backwards as waves
also steven slate is a massive fag
fuck monthly subscriptions as well
0/10 company

>>71558814
What do you think of the VMR's EQs, Compressors and PreAmps?

What are better plugins that also add analog colour?

>>71558827
everything sounds and feels extremely heavy handed and overdone
practically unusable for me

analog colour as in distortion/saturation?
soundtoys radiator and decapitator, fabfilter saturn, brainworx refinement/saturator, vertigo vsm3

as in kinda believable characteristics of modeled gear?
el arousor, uad 1176s,s la2a,s pultecs and manleys

>You will never be another Beethoven

Why even make music. We're all average or below average. I got into this too late.

Could you rate this solo i made @2:40 https://clyp.it/312f140m and the singin

>>71558956
saturation/distortion, and the natural colour that analog compressors add, and the saturation that eqs add

gimme a list of plugins of each type for me to download
>compressors
>eqs
>what else?

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>>71558597
THIS IS FUCKIN TRASH BRUH


Now check out my dank beats and pray that some day you may
https://clyp.it/021j0svu

>>71558998
>the natural colour that analog compressors add
oh boy, maybe you're better off with the slate everything subscription then

>>71558998
I like the Waves CA-2A. Softube Saturation Knob is free and ridiculously useful. The 76 and 160 compressors NI make are pretty nice too.

Remember you're never going to emulate analog sound, not really. Thats why analog is so expensive, and things purporting to be as good nearly as much.

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>>71559021

>>71558690
http://www.z3-audiolabs.com/scratch_it_free/

Does anybody know any music which incorporates ASMR-like effects and dialogues/narratives alongside the actual compositions, and also uses space in a creative way like Stockhausen? Does anything like it exist?

I'm just playing around with that and experimenting, seeing what can be achieved, but I'm afraid it could very easily come off as a pure gimmick. I just wonder if I can manage to create something interesting with this. It's practically like an audio track from a movie, but not really.

>>71559029
I'm not the one who came up with that, neither Steven Slate. The most obvious characteristic is the nasal attack sound you dont get with regular compressors

>>71558967
If beethoven had done two ninth chords in a row no one would have performed his stuff. You can do that without risking anything. You have his scores to study, and there are other styles of music apart from his

>>71559223
none of my analog compressors does that

>>71559280
Why you use a real analog compressor instead of a clear sounding plugin then?

>implying you, average amateur producer, actually have an actual analog compressor

>>71558977
I like it. Creative, melodic and with a structure that follows the song and grows to a peak.

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>>71559416
because I like the unique detector characteristics, the harmonics when pushed hard and the fast and easy workflow
no mystical natural color coming from any of these

>>71559494
>the harmonics when pushed hard
So they DO add colour to the sound. Kek. Die.

>>71559516
nice discussing with you. cheers

>>71558956
>everything sounds and feels extremely heavy handed and overdone practically unusable for me

You know you can turn the settings down or toward dry

>>71559544
This
I swear that the majority of this thread has never heard of parallel compression.

>>71559544
try it yourself, set one of their 1176 clones to only a few dB of gain reduction and it already sounds like it's fucking melting
some people might like that, I don't

>>71559603
You could use it as a send

How can I achieve the effect that the sound is going behind me, that is, circling around me? Panning can't do that. Is it possible with reverb and how?

>>71559206
yeah, mine
https://clyp.it/50mv3yxv

>>71559660
binaural panning when you're mixing for headphones. ruins the mix for anyone using speakers, though

>>71559603
Thats because you have to increase the input (thus saturation) to increase the threshold

>>71559765
yes. as I said, IMO they way overcooked that

This was mixed using exclusively the Slate's Virtual Mix Rack, and with the Tape plugin on every track and on the master https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/kiss-black-diamond-instrumental-cover

>>71560032
I'n not really if you're trying to say slate vmr is good or bad with that example

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https://clyp.it/at1oe0nr


Trying to draw inspiration from the weird music i've been listening to

I know it lacks structure but i think if i had better transitions it could work

thoughts?

>>71560287
It sounds random and dissonant (in a bad way)

>>71560271
Neither do i

>>71560308
got any ideas on how to tie it together?

>>71560287
I fuck with this. My only criticism is that the @ around the 1:10 mark where the arpeggios or what not kick in, the arpeggios are being drowned out by the drums and the long notes.

>>71560032
>>71560271
It was post-compressed on audacity though, if it feels too loud for you

>>71560332
Start with a defined chord progression, something that you play on the piano and say "there, that's a nice chord progression". I feel like the notes/chords/melodies are randomly slapped together.

>>71560308
a lot of people here use the word dissonant here and im not sure you guys know what it means or how it applies... or even how to recognize harmony

>>71560431
I know what dissonance is, I myself am a huge fan of it, but there's a good way to do it and a bad way to do it.

>>71560429
when i was making that track i had this song in mind

https://youtu.be/r190pOmb2J8

i sampled it too but that song doesn't have a chord progression through the whole song it kinda falls off around the middle

so why should i have to have one?

How long does it take to grasp a good understanding of music theory?

>>71560450
can you provide me an example of good dissonant music?

Non vinylfags, where do you guys pull your more obscure samples from? I'm trying to get inspired.

>>71560687
youtube is great

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUXl043M6v4NxohFiElWT4KUUOHc84PEk

heres a playlist to start with

you can branch off into some cool shit if you just follow songs you like

>>71560287
rlly cool bb

>>71537444
[freestyles in gibberish]

>>71560835
This is exactly what I was looking for. You always come thru anon.

>>71541974
i'd put dust covers over them when your not using them. my buddy has a pair of these and he does that, last longer

>>71561070

i gotchu nigga

https://clyp.it/5qlnt3gh

recorded this with my roommates minilouge

>>71560488
Because you clearly have a chord progression in the clyp you posted, it's just a bad undefined one that doesn't sound pleasant.

>>71560647
Get a MIDI keyboard, noodle around and it'll be a lot sooner than you think.

>>71560650
I can provide you with thousands of examples of dissonant music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjFjUonX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmkDMTU-hb4

Start off with these 2 and if you want more recc's I gotchu senpai.

>>71560687
Everywhere man, like the other anon said, youtube is amazing, so many hidden gems.

>>71561246
>Get a MIDI keyboard, noodle around and it'll be a lot sooner than you think.

Bullshit. He should check out teoria.com and musictheory.net at least. Then he can start experimenting, but it would be even better if he read some theory books. There are some decent YT channels on that subject too.

Same goes for music production. It's more efficient.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN. I place my .fxp files into nexuscontent>presets but they dont show up in nexus no matter what. .nxp files work fine. Can anybody help me out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8K35i4QIIA

I """produced""" this video and the other one on the channel for a friend. (In fact I just recorded it and quickly added compression, EQ and slight reverb). It seems like I'll be doing this weekly now, so now I actually want to do a better job at it.

Could you please listen to his voice and maybe tell me some vocal editing tricks that would suit it? I don't really know anything about chorus, doubling or other things on vocals. I use Ableton if it matters.

>>71561351
Wouldn't it be better if he could directly apply that theory on the keyboard instead of solely just reading notes on a computer screen?

>>71561704
What kind of patches are they?

>>71561787
I like the dry tone of the vocals, fits the track nicely, maybe some slight vocal correction (it's pretty much industry standard at this point).

>>71561857
Oh, if you meant that he should buy the keyboard so he can apply the theory on it, then I agree. Thought you meant that he should just cluelessly press keys and he will somehow magically figure out everything.

>>71561895
Oh, my bad, of course not.

https://clyp.it/eklq4ofo
something i just threw together today

>>71561704
if its a cracked nexus, ur going have have to go into the load files section in the vst settings and manually load the .fxp's

>>71562098
Not bad, but it sounds pretty flat and the 808 is kinda random.

>>71562163
Yea its a cracked nexus. I used to be able to just place the fxp's in the presets folder though so thats weird how i cant do that now. How do i load an entire folder through the vst settings?

>>71562217
preesh the honest criticism. been having to work with the stock vst's because all of my cracks broke when i tried to install guitar rig the other day. very hard to bring a lot of the stock sounds to life

>>71562291
How long have you been producing?

>>71562276
when you have nexus loaded, ( this is assuming you use FL) there should be a tab at the top of the nexus window with a plug and settings symbol on it. Click that. in the middle there will be a button that says load files. Find the file exactly the same way you put it in the nexus library and go into it because you'll only be able to queue up on sound at a time. It's something about the crack that makes nexus gui not compatible with 3rd party .fxb files.

>>71562363
Preciate it man

>>71562325
>https://clyp.it/eklq4ofo
about a year and a half. have had fl on my computer for almost 6 years though.

>>71562098
i can bounce to it

>>71562398
Tell me more, what's your musical knowledge like, what do you think your production skills are like?

>>71560902
Top kek

For garage rock sounding drums, what should I do for the EQ? I'm using EZDrummer for the time being (until my drummer friend gets mics) and I can isolate every """mic""" connected to EZDrummer's mixer in Ableton (eg. meaning I can mix the snare without it affecting the kick or the overheards etc.)

Also, what effects should I put on it overall? A very light distortion and a reverb?

hows this sound so far? its got my first time singing ever on it
https://clyp.it/4xq5qdf0

>>71562663
It sounds like everything is playing in a different tempo.

>>71562457
I have somewhat of an education in music theory, nothing formal though. All my knowledge is from Youtube and from my other producer/rapper friends. I can whip together a "safe" instrumental in most styles of hip hop in an hour or two. I have a good understanding of composition. That 808 part in the clip i uploaded was probably the 4th one i wrote for that song. trying to see how whacked out I can get it before it loses any semblance of bounce. I like to pretend my skills are above average but i've yet to make GOOD money from them.

>>71562683
is that a bad thing?

>>71562663
sounds very uneventful

>>71562739
Sounds like a good foundation, well, whip something up that you pour your 100% on and post it here or on the /prod/ discord.

https://discord.gg/cfwMgqU

>>71562746
Polyrhythms can be fun but it doesn't sound pleasant in your clyp.

Whats the difference between all those genres of electronic? HipHop, Trap, Trance, what else

>>71562834
yeah, ill definitely add more stuff to it.

>>71562874
so more work on chopping the breaks? they sound a bit sloppy to me as well.

>>71563021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres

>>71563021
Read up on any genre you want on wikipedia or listen to their differences, they're vast.

>>71563046
I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with your arrangement here, maybe take a step back and lay down a solid foundation before wonkying it up.

Opinions pls

https://clyp.it/rx2df42d

sorry if it gets to loud at the end

>>71563062
well, the foundation i'm building it on is to make it sound as wonky as possible.

>>71563159
I know but much like a painter still sketches out the outlines of a painting (no matter what that is) you have to have a solid foundation before swining up the drums or get the synths to be out of rhythm, otherwise it'll just sound random and aimless.

>>71559206
Holly herndon did that a bit

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How much do you guys charge for use of a track? Second time I've been asked if someone can use my beat and how much I charge, and I have no idea what's reasonable. I usually just let them use it for free cause I'm a nobody but I'm hurting for cash now.

>>71563201
ah, i see what youre saying now. and it is true, to make something sound extremely wonky it has to have parts that arent wonky.

>>71560032
Can you give feedback on the mixing/production guys

>>71563265
It depends, if the guy who raps over the beat is a nobody them sell it for like 30 bucks.

>>71563281
EXACTLY, hit me with the new shit or just join the discord

https://discord.gg/cfwMgqU

>>71561351
Its far easier to learn theory with an instrument.

>>71563318
Wow he knows how to play an instrument! Tell me more about how awesome you are.

>>71563714
>>71563318
Certainly more awesome than someone who can't play an instrument.

>>71563714
You don't even need to know how to play the piano in order to learn theory with a midi keyboard. It's just very helpful to be able to put theory into practice quickly. It's like taking notes instead of just listening to the teacher and expecting it all to stick.

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So I've been messing around with FL studio for about 6 months now. I know nothing of music theory aside from basic stuff like a chord is when you press more than 1 key and there's this thing called scales that is like a selection of notes that sound good together or whatever. Regardless of being a total noob I still managed to "finish" 3 projects and I'm wondering where I should post those or even if I should post them, I'm sure people will laugh at me for being such a noob. Should I post it here or is there another thread dedicated to this sort of thing on /mu/, first time here btw.

>>71564651
Depends if you're looking for honest critique or not. If you just post the track you're most satisfied with so far here, you might get some good advice as to how to progress.

>>71564730
I'm not sure what exactly I'm looking for. Maybe I just want to know if what I made is good for a beginner or not. I have a hard time trying to come up with anything.

What are you guys opinion on panned vocals to left or right?

>>71564773
"good for a beginner" means nothing. Either it's good or it isn't, nobody cares whether you've been producing for a week or five years, what matters is the quality of the track and what you can do to improve. Do you want to get better, or just get some momentary satisfaction from someone saying "it could be worse"?

>>71564882
You're right. I just hit a wall and couldn't get anywhere. I'll just keep doing whatever it is I'm doing and try my best to get better at it.

>>71564930
Post a track here and people might be able to better steer you in the right direction. You probably have a lot to work on, but a good starting point can be extremely helpful.

https://clyp.it/urbwfz1i

Im having trouble getting superior drummer to not sound so shitty. Also occssionally off tempo because of severe lag

https://youtu.be/W8SJuRQYmQI

please give me honest criticism

I have no computer atm so I'm planning on combining tracks by playing live with the previous tracks' recordings also playing live. Any advice for doing this?

>>71564954
I'll probably regret this but whatever. This is the first one I put together, pls be gentle: https://clyp.it/dpjzomfr
I've been trying to make some chiptune / videogame music btw.

>>71565223
I think what you need to focus on is variation. Variation in rhythm, in sound, in the overall arrangement etc. Right now everything is very static, the kick just goes every quarter note, the melody does the same, the chords change every bar, and everything just continues like that for the whole duration of the track. A small change in melody isn't enough to keep listeners interested, so you have to change things up to keep them on their toes!
Listen to some of your favorite songs and see how they use rhythm, then try to emulate it somewhat. Even if they use 4x4 drums, they probably have other elements that suggest a more interesting rhythm.

>>71565094
They sound very flat and weak. I don't know if you've compressed the shit out of them or if they're just very low in the mix. Are you putting eq and comp and such on the individual drums?

>>71565094
>>71565427
If you're willing to bounce the tracks and post them I could take a look.

>>71565395
I'll keep that in mind. I've been changing up the drums rhythm in the other tracks already, I'll try putting more variations to the melodies too. Thanks for the advice.

>>71565479
Just remember that rhythm is more than just drums, everything from chords to melodies can contribute to the rhythm of a track.

>>71565508
Alright. First I'll try making separate segments with different rhythms and see how that works for me from there, that should give me some more ideas. Thanks again.

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finished this track today

https://clyp.it/gczw1r45

xD

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>>71565094
>https://clyp.it/urbwfz1i
The top end of the drums sounds pretty much right on the money, but everything under 500- 35 hz needs to be boosted about 3-6 db

also, get yourself some steven slate drums
http://stevenslatedrums.com/

>>71557960
You don't need theory to tune an instrument my man and you don't really need theory to understand a few basic chords either

>>71565223
just download some dubstep sample packs and you'll get a monstercat promotion soon lmao

>>71563714
lmao unless you're burial or some shit you have to know an instrument to make music you dumb cunt

>>71565894
what's with the slate shilling in here recently?

>>71566005
>two references to steven slate software in the whole thread
>shilling

I dont care much for the steven slate effect plugins, but I have yet to hear anything that does rock/metal drum programing as well as steven slate drums.

>>71566061
>2 references in the same thread
>not shilling
hey steven slate

>>71566061
I saw that shit a couple of times in the last threads
try somewhere else, Steven

>>71566094
>>71566072
>attemps at shilling in a production thread on /mu/ that gets maybe 30-40 induvidual views, the user base is low to no income and heavily endorces piracy
It's like I like losing money, you got me guys.

I never said told the por sod to buy steven slate drums, I use a pirated version, I'm sure the torrent is still up.

What do you guys think of Spirit They're Gone?

>>71566178
all the high pitched noises hurts my ears.

>>71566161
losing a couple bucks to get a large userbase and more publicity is totally worth it, steven, you should know this more than any of us. any dumb cunt who can use a DAW knows how to pirate software, you just need to shill when they're not pros and wait for them to buy and promote your products later on.

>>71565895
then i dont know what im doing.
idk how to make it in tune and i dont know how to play chords

>>71566231
that is our whole marketing strategy son ;)

in all seriousness, I probably have software/samples worth aprox 3000 dollars and I've only paid for about 500 dollars worth.

Doesnt make me any better at making music.

>>71566231
just stop, it's wearing thin

>>71562596
A room reverb that everything has a slight send to, but a touch more on the snare and overheads. A tiny bit of distortion on the snare can sound really nice, and a good compressor on your bus. Don't overdo the low-end on the kick, remember you want impact not sub - avoid anything below ~100Hz. If you have a transient designer add attack to the snare, kick and toms.

>>71563265
Generally the better option is to say you want a cut of royalties should the song go big. Written contract (however simple) helps here. On top of that give them a token amount to seal the deal.

whats the point in running a sample through a vocoder?

>>71563265
royalties, always go for royalties.

You never know if one of these turds get big with your shit bumpin.

You will regret taking the 100 bucks then.

>>71565098
Put it on clyp and we will.

>>71566061
>steven slate
What a blatant rip off of toontrack. Your boss better have an amazing lawyer.

AYO HOLD UP U WUZ SAYINZ ABOUT HARMONIEZ N SHITZ WHITE BOIZ? IT BE ALL BOUT DAT RHYTHM NIGGA.

>>71557465
seriously? It's a god damn saw wave with some pitch warping. I bet he records hardware synths on to cassette, that's how he gets them so warm but that's just a theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-pQn-14BlI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPOvAmPgRpM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8SJuRQYmQI

Be Harsh

>>71567871
post clyps, we're not here to give you plays, we're here to bitch about how shitty your music is.


>>71537078
>Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

>>71567871
Use an anonymous audio uploader and then maybe someone will give you feedback. All I can say for you at the moment is fuck off

>>71567923
>>71567906
Okay sorry I dont post often eough to have known

>>71567974
all is forgiven, just remember to read the OP when you decide to participate in general threads, will save you alot of headache

>>71567923
>>71567906
https://clyp.it/t3dhvxy3

Gotcha, Now be harsh

>>71568049
I dont know what to think really.

But heres an idea.

Remove the reverb on the snare and hihat and add a trap beat.

As of now, it's a bit sparse to tingle my interest in whats going on.

>>71568049
I don't know if a rhodes is really the main instrument you want to be using for this type of genre. It doesn't work for me. Reverb is overused like crazy everything sounds damp, faint, and distant. If you want to attain a dream-sequence-esque feel to the whole track, there are better ways to do it than just caking everything in stock reverb it makes it sound cheap and disingenuous. Also, the drums serve no purpose. Take them out or make them shine, as of now they're just there to get on the listeners nerves.

>>71548634
use vocal effects? like robot and delays?

>>71568240

?

>>71568120
>>71568267
I honestly didn't even think that you wouldnt be harsh about it, but hey thanks for helping me out will hede in my next tracks

>>71568301
either post it in a clyp or we wont listen to it.

read
>>71567906

also, downloading shit off 4chan is fucking risky business.

>>71568328

?

>>71568326
oh don't get me wrong, it's really, really bad. I'm just trying to refrain from sounding like I'm better than you because then your underage ass will get triggered and start samefagging. To try to avoid that, I give feedback and hope in some way it prompts you to never come back here again.

>>71568327
It's a neat idea, reminds me of some low key indie film scores, but I keep waiting for a cello esque bassline to come inn to anchor the theme, right now it's just meandering along without any purpose. Improvisation is fine, but for a hole minute and a half with nothing to land on as a fundament, it serves no purpose.

Add a bassline, add some lush chords as the piece progresses to give the song a direction, right now it's going nowhere.

>>71568410
Dude be fucking harsh, i want to learn what im doing wrong

>>71568401
actually my bad anon
I'm >>71568328 and my subconscious clicked on your link while my guard was down, then I saw the red audio icon in the tab title and I flipped and clicked off before it even loaded up, then I reported you because I thought it was spam. Just now I tested the link on some malware detection websites and now realize it's just a normal drive link... so uh, my bad.

>>71568410
Its not like you think its bad but have nothing to say why.

>>71568444
submission fetish? dude everything I said here >>71568267 I meant 100%. There are things that don't fit and aren't necessary. Fix them. What do you want me to do? Call you a nigger? How do you get off? Nigger. There, are you wet now?

>>71568439
yeah i agree it doesnt really go anywhere, which makes me unsure of whether to keep it as an interlude/outro/intro or do as you said and develop it. I was also thinking of cutting it up into samples and interpolating them with a drum beat, which might allow me to keep the good melodic ideas and get rid of the pointless ones where i just go up and down a scale.

>>71568608
can I try something out with it?

>>71568515
Thats not what I meant, I thought you had more to say

>>71568635

sure :)

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Can anyone tell me how this break down is? If it's too spastic? I am going for a giraffage/cashmere vibe here.

https://clyp.it/efjkzn0t
https://clyp.it/efjkzn0t

keyboard fag here

I bought a bass. It is so much easier to not sound plastic now

>>71568744
404 m8

>>71568841
oh okay give me a sec

>>71568841
>>71568744

how about this?

link works for me

https://clyp.it/efjkzn0t?token=745425e05740563c7e246f42ef2b5cef

>>71564651
Post them on clyp friend.

>>71564869
That's a very generic question, go with the flow, I'd probably still have my vocals on the center unless there's like background voices or doing some tricky vocal effects, but I'd keep my main in the center.

>>71565118
What do you have?

>>71566641
It's an effect.

>>71568646
this was something along what I had in mind.

I just chucked some random chords in there and you move out of key someplaces so it got a bit meh, but you get what I'm trying to get across as an idea

https://clyp.it/ecjei0e4

>>71568646

heres the link that got taken down: https://clyp.it/nv4at3dz
open to more suggestions

>>71569072
>https://clyp.it/ecjei0e4

wow thank you so much, i can really see a direction now!

Could i ask what chords you're playing and how you chose them? im new to creating music so i dont really know anything about music theory beyond improvising within a mode on my guitar.

>>71569168
It's easier to learn by ear by just listening, that way you'll learn by doing and come up with your own chord progression along the way.

I have very little music theory, I just play shit till it sounds good.

the instrumentantion is a cello playing flautando and a lowpassed contra bass playing flautando doubling the bassline and octave lower. and a fair amount of reverb.

You can achieve the same effect with some soft synth pads.

Note that your piece is slightly out of key so I had to tune everything up a 1/5 of a semitone. So you might want to tune your recording so it makes it easier when you lay down some chords. In other words, you have to tune your recording down just a hair.

>>71542160
What would be your pick for "a less intense DAW?" Not that other anon but this seems like what I need

>>71569268

really, thanks for the tips. youve really helped me out <3

>>71566243
You should probably learn those in order to make music then

where's flume at boiz?

>>71569908
can someone explain this meme for me, I drop in and out of these threads for months at the time and this one just went straight pass me.

Contain two melody choices,
Can't decide
https://clyp.it/s03mbj3d