using my autism to make a rock histomap, gathering info. dates

Do the numbers signify the artist's first release in that genre? Or most seminal? Also I assume only one per artist?

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>>71532632

the number is the year their most popular album came out according to last.fm scrobbles. I started using this method halfway through so im sure some are wrong. I just need 1 per artist, it's to mark their position on a histomap, something like pic related

>>71532674
i dunno about doing it by most popular album, you'll get some misleading results like pink floyd 79 and arctic monkeys 2013

maybe their first successful album?

>>71532725

I honestly should have done that since the beginning, Ill redo some of them.

>>71532547
I don't have the energy to correct you but your emo section is unbearably wrong. First of all, it should start in the 90s (technically the late 80s), not the 00s

>>71532674
gotcha
idk how you want to section it off since all three genres blend together but definitely add dream pop/noise pop/shoegaze (I'll just give you artist names and you can figure it out from there)
>Cocteau Twins
>AR Kane
>Galaxie 500
>The Jesus & Mary Chain
>My Bloody Valentine
>Ride
>Slowdive
>Mercury Rev
>Lush
>Beach House

Krautrock
>Can
>Faust
>Neu!
>Kraftwerk
>Amon Duul II
>Embryo
>Popul Vuh
>Cluster
>Stereolab (I guess)

>>71532848

What bands?

>>71532863

Thanks anon how could i forget my bloody valentine

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Updated, added shoegaze/krautrock

all dates should be fixed from 60s-80's

bump

>>71532547
>Having a grunge section but not including Melvins
I shiggy diggy

>>71534229
add goth rock to 80s
>the cure
>siouxie and the banshees
>bauhaus
>dead can dance
>sisters of mercy

/punk/here
Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Minor Threat, Descendents, Operation Ivy, all very important in the 80s. Black Flag. also for 90s/00s, I'll jump in before anyone else and say blink, Green Day and the Offspring DO have their place for reviving mainstream interest the genre, but I'd remove Sum and include NOFX and probably Sublime.

>>71534325
nvm, I wasn't looking for them under "alt metal"

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>>71534325
>>71534575

Changed to Grunge

>>71534341

Added

>>71534539

added

Thanks for the input guys here's how it looks atm gonna start double checking 90s dates now

bump

The Jam are always missing from these things, they were absolutely huge in the UK at the time.

RATM's number is after the name.
Might want to add somewhere Neil Young and QotSA just to name two

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>>71534795
>>71534800
>>71534805

added those/groove metal, bump

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You know there was rock and roll in the 50s right?

>>71535375
somewhat

it was more R&B than rock and roll though

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>>71535437
How can you fuck emo up so gosh darn bad, friend?

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>>71535535

>>71532547
Why not use existing references, like one of the many books about the topic?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFV1oK-pYV4

>>71535556
>pleb.fm
Emo is 90's and none of those bands hombre

>>71535583

Im not aware of any of that, post some bands

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Waits should really be in, don't know where to put him though since he started with upbeat jazzy kinda stuff on piano.

And The Small Faces, Pysch rock 65.

Why is Cream and Jefferson Airplane under Blues Rock? those are, if anything, Psychedelic and definitely not Blues

>>71535437
Why aren't they listed chronologically? Almost every single genre has shit all over, can't be that hard to just make text layers for each genre and add things where they should be

>>71535599
Cap'n Jazz
American Football
Sunny Day Real Estate
The Promise Ring
Mineral
The Get Up Kids
Texas is the Reason
Braid
Jawbreaker

and then there's screamo too

if you're trying to make a comprehensive history of rock music, you're vastly overrepresenting metal, while hugely underrepresenting significant branches of rock (most notably indie- and punk-based music)

where are massive bands like pixies, sonic youth, or the velvet underground? there's no prog on your chart, or post-punk really. hardcore punk should probably be its own thing too maybe.

also you have a whole bunch of errors. for example, the strokes et al. aren't garage rock, they're garage rock revival bands. garage rock happened in the 60s.

your formatting is pretty horrific too desu but i'm hoping this is just a brainstorm type thing.

>>71535687
Also where's Post-Hardcore

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>>71535694
what i'm trying to say is that this reeks of personal bias

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>>71535703
>He's doing the thing again

>>71535723
well he is asking for help

maybe he doesn't know much beyond metal

>>71535746
yeah i suppose, i mean i'm not trying to be mean or anything it's just yknow eh

>>71535672

Im just gathering details atm so i have something to work off of, they will be in chronological order when im doing the real thing

>>71535694

it is a brainstorming type thing, im posting here to help fix the errors, and get as much genres as possible. If you see more things that are off please feel free to let me know

>>71535687

If this is the real emo and not the mid 00's crap then what do we call the used and friends? ive never heard it called anything other than emo

>>71535699

will add

>>71535804
>what do we call the used and friends
Pop-Punk normally get's thrown around with them, but even that is a little iffy. Honestly I think people should come up with a name for it, real Screamo is now often called Skramz because of confusion between bands like Pg.99 and Black Veil Brides. It's really wierd.

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Genres still need adding: Screamo ; prog

Figure out difference between Emo and Post-Punk ; Separate Hardcore Punk from Punk


gonna break for a while, leave feedback and ill update later

it might be helpful: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/rym_ultimate_box_set/

>>71536275
>psychedelic rock
Change 1967 to velvet underground
Add 1966 with 13th floor elevators (first use of the word psychedelic to describe a music genre)

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>>71532725
>>71532674

Also

>Avenged Sevenfold's self-titled album
>Metalcore

Waking the Fallen is really their only metalcore album.

i would move deftones to alt metal, they moved away from the nu metal sound after their first 2 albums

>>71536275
I don't mean to be pedantic, and I know they get hated a lot here, but should Green Day be on the list somewhere? Considering they are arguably the biggest pop-punk band to exist.

>>71536947
are you fucking dumb, 67 was the most fertile ground for psychedelic music ever because it was the fucking summer of love you uneducated pleb

>>71537065
GD is under 80's punk for some reason

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>Post-Rock
Talk Talk
Slint
Sigur Rós
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Stereolab
Mogwai
Tortoise
Swans?

>>71537094
>you uneducated pleb
What makes you think I don't know that you fucking arsehole? Do you get off on pretending to be better than others people?
I picked velvet underground because they were recording something new to do with psychedelic music. What hendrix was doing had been done slightly before. I say the velvets were 'recording something new' because they had been beaten by people like parson sound

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>>71537162
Pram

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>>71532547
>saves it as a .jpg

>No Wave
Bush Tetras
ESG
Lizzy Mercier Descloux
Lounge Lizards
Material
Theoretical Girls
Ut
Y Pants
Youth in Asia
The Contortions
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks
Mars
DNA
Liquid Liquid

>Noise Rock
Big Black
The Birthday Party
The Butthole Surfers
Lou Reed
Sonic Youth
Swans
The Velvet Underground

>>71537166
you're still an idiot, when you're putting together a fucking timeline of music do you really go for something underground or do you go for a significant event?

just because VU are THE hip band and were mixing the abstract with the vulgar, doesnt mean they were either popular or the predominant sound

they're not a typical '67' band and it's pretty fucking obvious too, you'd get better milage out of joni fucking mitchell

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>Canterbury Scene
Soft Machine
Caravan
Gong
Hatfield and the North
National Health
Egg
Gilgamesh
Henry Cow
Khan

>Space Rock
Hawkwind
Gong
The Ventures
Spacemen 3
Pink FLoyd

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>>71537206
>you're still an idiot
Wow, you are such a high and mighty prick. Have you considered killing yourself?
The argument here is whether to go for popularity or significance but you have to be so fucking vile. Argue like a regular person you autistic dick

>College Rock
R.E.M.
U2
Camper Van Beethoven
The Smiths
XTC
The Replacements


>Neo-psychedelia
Tame Impala
the Flaming Lips
Primal Scream
Animal Collective
Pond

>2010s Lazy Rock?
Mac Demarco
Mild High Club
Homeshake

>>71537318
>neo-psychedelia
>forgetting ty segall, king gizzard, brian jonestown massacre

I think lazy rock is called slacker rock but I'm not sure though. That could be more pavement style

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>>71537263
>calling someone autistic on 4chan
wow dude thats the first time i've heard that before? also personal attacks have no value here on an anonymous imageboard and you should know that mr. anon

Either way, its not like i disagree totally with the idea of VU its just that they're not worth dismissing an entire social and cultural movement for.
There are plenty of summer of love bands that were just as significant, if anything it's the format of the timeline that's flawed if it cant accept both as parts of a 1967 section

>>71537353
I literally just made up Lazy rock, I have no idea if it has an 'official' name yet.

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>>71537318
>there are people who have been here for less than a year and think that their opinion matters

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>>71537419
>OP asked for suggestions and has been adding them.

>>71532547
>deathcore
>black dalilah murder
lmao