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>>71514792

John Mayer sucks

>>71523760
I second this. I hate his voice.

The only thing I know about John Mayer is the two girls who sat at my table in Geometry class back in 9th grade worshipped John Mayer and wanted to marry him. They also talked quite often about guys they knew with pathetic little dicks. Curious.

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Why does /gg/ hate him?

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Guys I need some help. I plan on buying of these stupid fucking basses but I cannot tell the difference from the Peavey Patriot to the Peavey Fury. Literally one has the same pickup but slanted and the other does not. Im looking in forums as old as 04 and these fags keep talking about neck dimensions.

Pic related. Patriot on Left. Fury on right.

>>71523818
He's only relevant because he happens to be in a famous band. Even their bass player is a better guitarists than him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9u8owUpKh0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC8B9hHpLm8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9DzRj2g344

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knjU3NmIph0

>>71523892
honestly that was over the line by me sorry for spamming. I'm done.

>>71523818
He uses wah too much and his vibrato isn't really that great.

John Mayer is an annoying fuckboy but let's not kid ourselves, he's a more technically advanced guitarist than anyone on /mu/

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relic'ed a cheap strat, first ever time trying it. rate

After I learn chords and scales what do I learn next?
beginner to guitar

>>71524035
sweep picking

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>>71524003
would help if i posted the body aswell i guess

>>71524035
Songs you like

>>71523681
Is there a more generic, gutless, uninspiring artist than John Mayer?

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>>71524163

>>71524035
definitely not
>>71524119
and learning songs wouldnt be a bad idea. Don't get too caught up in any details, you can't get better if you don't make mistakes and push yourself. If you are ever in need of some inspo John mayer is a very moving and talented musician.

>>71524205
>>71524119
I was kidding about sweep picking, just start learning songs you like. bonus points if ther eis a riff or some shit that has a technique or movement you aren't used to.

>>71524035
You might try making music.

>>71524218
I know you were but he's new I'd feel bad if he believed you lol

>>71524218
too late, already started learning sweep picking, and arpeggios thanks to anons suggestions.
tomorrow, I start learning songs I like.

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Best guitarist alive today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYXSTMK8MU8

And one of the best bands for that matter

>>71524293
If you still view music in terms of "best" and whatnot, you have much growing to do. Music is just too subjective.

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>>71523818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0n5deCbC-o

Why is Rob so (bass)ed

>>71524332
Fair point, but there are always some players who stand head and shoulders above the rest. There is no one like him alive today.

>>71524367
meant for
>>71523854

>>71524183

His stint with Zappa wasn't that bad.

>>71524367
hammett btfo

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So after my recent amp upgrade, I'm looking to get rid of one of my overdrive/distortion pedals. I can't decide if I want to sell my EQD Talons or my Boss BD-2.

The Talons seems to get kind of muddy stacked with my amp's gain unless I adjust the fuck out of the eq which turns it into a thin fizzy mess when it's run into the clean channel. Not good for swapping mid song. When it's eq'd right the Talons sounds a little better than the BD-2 does though.

The blues driver works like a nice boost seemingly no matter how high the gain is on the amp which is great. But on it's own it can get kind of blah too.

I'm thinking of dropping the talons.

Despite the eq controls and the presence knob I can't seem to get it dialed in right for actual use. It really only seems good for turning your clean channel into an overdrive channel. And even when it's dialed in to my liking, it's only marginally better than the Blues Driver. Am I just a retard who can't eq it right or something?

Thanks for the meme replies in advance.

Does anyone have ANY interest in doing some postal service type shit? I don't want some meme like "4chan makes album" just like send unfinished stuff that you've been stuck on for awhile. or if you have some hold stuff that you have given up that too.

>>71524446
>postal service type shit
What is this, 1986

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https://soundcloud.com/user-521744774/far-ahead
Can i have some feedback on my playing here, specifically the solo

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>>71524514
not literally just people piecing together different parts of songs. no biggie

PS-5 Super Shifter or PS-6 Harmonist?

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I prefer to mic up an amp rather than record directly from a device, like if im going to use a pod or something id rather run it through an amp in a decent acoustically prepped room than direct recording. Am I a gay? It just sounds so much better when it's an actual sound in a room rather than purely digital.

>>71524802
You're obviously not alone dude.

Totally gay though

>>71524802

from what I've read thats the way to do it.

>>71524802
Just get an Axe-FX. Digital is the future.

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Who /firstact/ here?

>>71524802
This is the proper method but if your amp is total trash(line 6) it won't matter much. Still the fact that you're unsure of your choice suggests that you are indeed a homosexual.

>>71524973
Even shit amps sound great depending on recording situation.
Many famous guitar solos were recorded on crappy solid state practice amps.
I know Jerry Cantrell from alice in chains did a few on some.

>>71524802
Yeah, this is why I hate DI boxes.

>>71525025
>>71524802
It's like you guys never used speaker emulation.

>>71524999

so in that case what is your signal path

>>71524999
>Even shit amps sound great depending on recording situation.
This is true. I had a Line 6 Spider 2 which sounded great at low volume, worked great on the recordings at the time. However when it was cranked (only 75w) it sounded like shit and it all fell apart.

Remember calling my dad to bring through his old JCM 800 and 2x12 for my high school bands first proper gig because it sounded so shit

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Asking again. Which one of these memes should I buy?

>>71525331
I like the Kelly the best out of these.

Is it worth it to get an actual guitar teacher if justinguitar isn't really helping me?

>>71525331
Is saving up and getting a G400 faded not an option?

The 310 has a bolt on neck and feels like a really cheap guitar, but the 400 isn't much more and is a lot better.

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>Thought I'd weigh in on the duo-sonic meme

Feel like these guitars are too expensive desu but they're really comfortable.
Not sure what kind of case to buy for it. Wish one came with it.
Really looks pretty when I'm not touching it. Makes me want to buy a matching strap.
I haven't played enough to really gravitate towards playing for fun, but once I got this guitar I made a lot of progress.
It's not as light as I expected, but then I am also weak.
Still more attractive than the Mustangs, as I feel like they really deserve to have a vibrato for the ~aesthetic~ and tribute to ~history~
A little bummed that it has a strat bridge rather than a top-load, for the same reason as with the mustang, but it plays well.
I gravitate towards the bridge pickup with the tone rolled off about 70% and volume down slightly, but the neck pickup with same tweaks (after height adjustment) sounds good as well.
The satin neck is a nice change of pace after being used to a sticky old Japanese Jaguar. Makes me want to play higher on the neck more often.
Still haven't even set it up or changed strings from stock, making it slightly harder to play than used to, but once I get over my lazy streak I expect to find further surprises from the instrument.

In closing, happy with my purchase. Like playing with the rhythm circuit and bass cut on my Jag, but in all I feel satisfied when playing both, and for different reasons.

>>71523760
>>71523779
This is a guitar thread, his guitar work is excellent. You will never be as good as him at playing the guitar.

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received it yestrday,
my first bass,
I'm so happy, and my fingers AREN'T. D:

Hope this will pass soon. Just learnt my first song too : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXhmcnIzzs <3

>>71524293
I like Derek, but Bonamassa could smoke his ass and then some.

>>71524293
Anyone that relies on a slide as much as him cannot be considered the best and any point in time.

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>>71525462
>a subjective opinion about a subjective form of entertainment on an anonymous image board about a musical performer whos guitar work is highly subjective

how dare they have opinions!

>>71525426
is there any irony here? I'm currently strapped into a duo sonic rn playing it through a vox valvetronix 20w that I got yesterday pretty fun. I really dont care about the look, in fact I thought the strat was the worse looking one. Honestly i'm curious if mine god damaged when they were assembling it because my neck pickup is very hard to hear.

>>71525543
try raising the pickup, if that doesn't work, check the resistance/connections.

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What's /gg/s opinion on Wylde Audio?

>>71525604
thats the first thing I did, Ill open it up tomorrow and either fix it or get a replacement

>>71525754
Gaudy.
And they these should have been like 3 signature guitars from Schecter instead of a whole brand... oh, that's what they are.

>>71525543
No intended irony.
Just see it mentioned a lot in passing and thought I'd say I actually like it, and since it's a currently made model figured I'd mention that it's a nice one.
Maybe I'm just sore that it's not as instantly liked as the Squier Jag, Jazz, and Mustang were.
My neck pickup was too high when I got it, so I had to lower it and raise the bridge for a nice transition between pickups.

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I'll ask one more time I guess.

Does anyone know anything about Stellar guitars?

There is one at a local salvation army for $250 (and the lady behind the counter implied that it might drop in price soon), but I can't really find out much about the company. I read somewhere that they were lawsuit era LP style guitars made in Japan, but other sites I looked claim that they were available until very recently & made in Korea.

Pic related is what it looks like.

>>71525857
I have 4 Stellar guitars. They are incredible. Almost as good as my Rondos.

>>71525851
Yeah its hard to tell for me I've gotten very little sleep, sometimes when I read comment chains I can't tell if someones being sincere but what are ya gonna do. what amp do you play it through?

>>71523818

He's the ultimate ride on the coattails guy. James and Lars wrote all the classic songs/rhythms while he just played the solos. Some of his leads were decent to great in the early days, but many of those were Mustaine's in the first place.

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How much distortion is too much distortion? Gain strictly from amp and use pedals for boost? Or sparkly clean amp and get all your dirt from pedals?

I'm in the former camp

>>71525976
>but many of those were Mustaine's in the first place.

As extreme rumor, with no substantial proof at all whatsoever, has it.

>>71526076
A great amp should do most of the leg work but you can improve it with a good boost/preamp/overdrive. If you don't have a good amp then pedals work okay, and you might not notice the difference, but I think they sound less responsive and a little strange when you compare back and forth.

It's way easy to get too much distortion using either method though.

>>71525897
eh, I think this whole board is hard to tell sometimes, even on good rest.

I got lucky and found a good (enough) deal on a limited edition Princeton so I've been playing through that.
Reverb sounds nice on both pickups, tremolo sounds better on neck. Maybe that's just me, though. I really like fingerpicking chords now.
Call me queer, but having a nice amp was more important for my progression as a guitarist than anything.
I've been playing on and off for five years and it took me until this year to really get comfortable playing, largely because the amp sounds nice.
I just want to sound good all of the time, lol.
The hum gets to me but I don't like buckers as much as I used to. Maybe in time.

>>71526076
>Or sparkly clean amp and get all your dirt from pedals
I've never heard this sound good

>>71526076
I like the latter; using the amp as a blank canvas.

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I broke my high E string again

>>71526099
>rumor
Kirk in 2008 said:
>"I had a week to learn the songs. At the end of that week I flew out and I had a week to rehearse with them, and then we started playing shows. Every show just kept on getting better. When it came time to go into the studio, Johnny Z, our manager said, 'You know you have to play Dave's solos.'

>"I said I didn't really want to. 'Then why don't you take the opening to every solo, so that people think that they're Dave's solos and then you can go somewhere else with them,' he said.

>"As a 20-year-old kid, put in a position like that, you don't want to rock the boat too much, especially being the new kid in town – the fresh guy. So I said, 'Sure.' That's exactly what I did. I took the first four bars of most of the solos and changed them. When I changed them it was always for the better and everyone liked it."

>>71526212
What point on the string broke?

>>71526212
Stop strumming so hard jesus

>>71526076
I play sparkly clean with no dirt these days, but when I liked it, I was always in the club where playing two strings (or more) at once broke up but single notes were on the brink of clean.

>>71526227
I can't do that. I play a lot of Funk where you pick in between the strums.

>>71523829
get a MiM jazz bass or an ibanez SR instead. If either of those cost too much try out a GSR.

>>71526271
My dad would tell you to buy thicker strings

>>71524183
>everything about this picture

the purple sunglasses are just icing on the cake.

>>71526271
Where on the string did the break occur, cunt?

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I am restoring a very old Harmony archtop hollowbody, I know what to do with the neck and frets but I don't know how to approach the scratches and indentations on the guitar body. Any advice? I was thinking of gently sanding the remaining varnish and then sand the scratches. I couldn't tell you what the wood is, it's VERY light, and also light in color. Any advice would be appreciated. Also they aren't really scratches, they look like indents from poor strumming technique. The picture attached isn't mine but if you look closely it has the same kind of markings on the Harmony.

>>71526076
I tend to go for an AC15 cranked as loud as I can and modulate with the pickups / volume control. I use a Boss SD1 on a reasonably low setting to compliment it, and if its a small venue then I just need to crank the pedal. Nothing like a valve amp singing, borrowed a Fender Twin and it had far too much headroom for what we needed

>>71526392
Near the Neck pickup

>>71526464
Just buy a new guitar
You obviously aren't cut out for this

>>71526525
OK, thanks.

>>71526464
I world just strip the old finish and refinish the guitar if I wanted perfection. With old guitars like that you just have to accept minor things like scratches if you want to keep it original. Nothing wrong with finishing an inexpensive vintage guitar though

>>71526642
>shell pink nitrocellulose lacquer refin

You guys have any opinions/ideas on how to DI an electric guitar at home and still get good tone/mix well? I work on Ableton for FlyLo like IDM, so I use instruments. Bass guitar isn't so bad since I just directly plug it to the audio interface (no DI box at all), and just crank it up in the DAW and it usually sounds okay, but guitars seem like more of a complication. What do you guys think? Anything work/doesn't work for you guys? Right now I'm going directly from the guitar into a maxed out DS-2 into audio interface, but it's really only supposed to be temporary.

>>71525331
Buy a guitar used, it's always the best deal. Save some more also.

>>71526691
I think your issue might be having the DS-2 cranked. That's a really hot signal so you should probably try rolling it back a bit and see if you can get a tone you like from the monitors before recording. If you weren't using that and just going straight guitar I'd suggest working with some EQs, compressors and reverb but if the signal is coming in with a lot of distortion that might not help as much as it normally would and might make the tone worse even.
I'd suggest one of these direct in since they can shape your tone a little more gently than a distortion pedal and then using the plugins for further shaping to taste.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer/GDI21-V-Tone-Guitar-Driver-DI-Guitar-Amp-Modeler-Direct-Recording-Preamp-DI-Box-Effects-Pedal.gc

>>71523760
That documentary-style footage he shot while they were recording his first album is actually super interesting imo
Great player, knew exactly what he was doing (in terms of target audience/sound) to make it big desu
Always been kind of an ass but i imagine id behave the exact same way in his situation

>>71527105
Also, do you have any ideas about how to mix the guitar properly? Not just the volume but the panning and giving it fullness and stereo in a mix without it sounding terrible

So people only play guitar to impress girls right?

>>71527332
I only play guitar privately right now, so no.
It's a common movie trope that the guy with the guitar gets the girl, but... maybe I'm reading too much into your post.
It impresses both genders if you can play an instrument, but guitar is definitely one of the most popular instruments to play; especially in a bar, party, or campfire setting.

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>>71527332
false, Im gay and play the guitar because I gave up on art but still need a creative outlet to not kill myself.

>>71527304
I'm not super knowledgeable but you're gonna want plenty of mids for note clarity. There's a ton of different approaches to mixing but if you look up FlyLo type beats tutorials on YouTube I know you'll find some that talk about where he puts things in the mix.

>>71524332
Within the confines of subjectivity lies a different form of objectivity.

>>71526220
>When I changed them it was always for the better and everyone liked it

I doubt anyone believes this. Dave has always been a better guitarist than Kirk.
Megadeth has always been more musically talented than Metallica ever was

>>71524183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY8wyKuLY2k

just read some of those comments
jesus christ

>I dont think ive ever seen a man make love to a guitar before.

>Steve Vai is the Leonardo Di Vinci of guitar.

>it goes without saying that Steve Vai's technical abilities with shredding is incredibly amazing, but really what sets him apart from so many musicians is his compositions , the melodies and style has no equal , i havent heard anything like this

yeah sure hes famous and successful but this "music" sounds like total ass

>>71525529
an opinion would be not liking his music. saying he's a poor guitarist is not

I can't stand heavy metal but i appreciate the complexity and musicianship

>>71527544
I agree. Steve Vai bores me to death.

>>71526691
>>71527304
I plug the guitar straight into the interface and record the DI which I run through amp sims. I can REALLY recommend getting the Bias plugin, that can get you the tone of pretty much any amp and it's really high quality. I just run a screamer plugin (TSE 808) and then Bias.

I don't know what music you want to record but standard procedure for guitars is pretty much always to double track your rhythm guitars and hard pan them 100% L/R. Put a multiband compressor on the lows and low mids to keep that under control from jumping around muddying up the mix. High pass at 80-100hz or as high as you can without it impacting the tone negatively. Low pass at anywhere from 8-12000hz. Try to get a good enough tone from the start so you don't have to EQ it too much. I often boost a bit at around 3k and a little shelf at around 5-8k for more presence and aggressiveness (I mostly just record metal).

For leads I like to double track them as well and pan anywhere from 50-100% L/R depending on the song. You can single track and run them up the center too but I usually reserve that for solos.

I'm not an expert by any means though. Also throwing in a shameless plug since I just finished writing/recording/mixing this demo and feedback would be nice, both regarding the mix and the song (metal, fast and a little proggy with a bunch of odd time signatures and a bit of djentyness): https://clyp.it/4y4fqnnt

>>71527595
Most shred bores me to death. It's guitar music for guitar players- anyone without the cops themselves is going to be bored to shreds

>>71526691
https://youtu.be/9-0xoR7S_6A

>>71523892

Clearly John Mayer couldnt carry Derek Trucks guitar strap...

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On the subject of overrated guitarists, theres orianthi.
If she were a man she would still be stuck in guitar center shredding on a line6 amp everyday trying to show off. But because she's a woman and a guitar player she's famous.

At a concert ama

>>71527544
>Steve Vai is the Leonardo Di Vinci of guitar.

Wasn't he like a virtuoso composer and proto-pianist too? That guy needs a slap.

>>71524183

C'mon...obviously Vai is incredibly technically skilled...but his vision, quirkyness, randomness, and overall sonic palette is incredibly inspiring...dude is hilarious, over the top and has some really amazing guitar music.

So, probably a dumb question, but it doesn't seem to be answered in the links. When I got my guitar I could hardly stretch my left hand wide enough to play a power chord. It's been a couple of weeks and I can manage it, but it still feels uncomfortable and awkward. How long am I gonna have to keep practicing before this shit feels natural?

>>71527804
What's it like to go in public? Asking for a friend, love what you do.

>>71527903
It took me a while, so I just gave up and started playing barred E chords. Feels a lot more comfortable, and offers the added bonus of a longer strum.
Watch that the rest of your fingers don't get too weak and slack if you're playing power chords all the time.

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The objectively best thing Steve Vai has done is getting exposure for Devin Townsend at the start of his career.

>>71527903
i play power chords using my first finger and pinky, i omit the second root

>>71527771
Sorry anon but you don't just play with Michael Jackson and remain obscure, gender or otherwise.

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>>71527964
Devins the man, gonna go see him next week

>>71528008
Nobody remembers Hendrix's backing band tbf.

>>71527903
>>71527963
>>71527972
how small are your hands? You might want to look into short scale guitars.

>>71527848

only holier-than-thou pretentious fucks dont like Vai...he doesnt take himself anywhere near as serious as these plebs

dude has astonishing skill, incredible musical chops and quite an artistic vision...just because you are too much of a fucking pleb to understand doenst mean he isnt brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw76jmL_TEw

>>71528012
Saw him last saturday, was awesome. Fourth time I see him live I think and was probably the best one so far. Stood at the very front. Got tears in my eyes when he came back on stage alone with just an acoustic and started playing Ih-ah. I love that man.

>>71528008
>implying anyone knew Micheal Jacksons band members

i mean wtf

>>71528040
duo sonic! pretty sure this is the guy who was starting off playing 2 days ago

>>71528061
>dude has astonishing skill, incredible musical chops and quite an artistic vision
So does Chris Broderick and he still can't write an interesting song or lead part to save his life. Guitarists obsession with technical ability over songwriting ability will forever render them irrelevant to the world at large.

>>71528040
Nothing to do with small hands, i just get a better chunky string muting sound when i use my first finger and pinky, lets me use my whole hand to mute the strings easier
just personal preference

>>71528061

He is an Alien- some people will never understand.

>>71528072
or cash
or elvis

guess some people are so iconic that nobody gives a shit about their supporting members

>>71528040
>second (You)
Actually own two desu
My hands aren't that small, just weak and on meds that make me rigid and shaky

>>71527903
Not long at all. Try Barr chords for a day then go back and see how much easier they feel.

>>71528111
you're at the worst stage of learning trust me, it will only get more enjoyable from here. just stick with it and it will pay off

>>71528069
Nice, i've seen him a couple times before, last was the acoustic tour he did two years ago
Acoustic version of love was pretty funny

>>71527903
Just keep practicing and playing long stretches. I play a 27" scale guitar and I can stretch from 3rd to 8th fret comfortably and to 9th if I really try (not that I think I'd ever need to do that)

>>71528120
Yeah, that would make it tricky. Hope the meds are helping with whatever you're dealing with.

>>71528038
Hendrix's songs wouldn't be the same with out Mitch Mitchell

>>71528098
This is a good song:

https://youtu.be/Yw74sDWPH7U

And while I find most of Broderick's playing pretty boring, I think his solo on this track is pretty bitchin:

https://youtu.be/9FUSHSbdtJY?t=139

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>I'm sharing a thread with people who actually non-ironically enjoy STEVE VAI and ADMIRE his playing

fuck me fuck this.

>>71528098
Kinda agree.

Townshend is a good example. Great player however not technically the best, but he wrote all their music and that stapled him as a rock legend.

>>71527332
I play guitar to keep my anger issues and depression under control. And it's responsible for a lot of good things in my life. I left my education partially because of it too. I left during finals like 4-5 years ago. No regrets.

>>71528178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQwwxiBjLzI&index=48&list=LL_QBEPKiOj6Dm6CQ1oaQ9kw

Hendrix did it best

>>71528098
>Guitarists obsession with technical ability over songwriting ability

maybe...but thats not the case with Vai. He has written great songs. Hes not focused on his technical ability, he is focused on making interesting music.

Anyone who says hes all about wanking and thats it hasnt really listened to his music.

>>71528211
>fuck me fuck this.

you are correct. fuck you.

>>71528285
I haven't really listened to his music, but I've listened to enough of his music to 'know' that he's not for me. Even Buckethead is pushing it for me these days, and I used to love him.

Agh I take that back I would still listen to Colma.

>>71528245

jimi could shit on his strat and cover anything better

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Is there a more abrasive tone than Steve Albini's Big Black-era tone?

No one on /mu has the balls to play this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pYcAuANjg

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As a beginner guitarist moving to intermediate I'm having a hard time sight reading music sheets, specifically in Jazz. I've only known tab and now I'm basically getting my ass kicked every time i get a new Jazz music sheet. Does anybody know where to begin with this kind of stuff? Maybe a tutorial, book, whatever?

>>71528463
>he fell for the sight reading music to play guitar meme

>>71528463
curious how long have you been playing and whats the most challenging song or songs you can play?

>>71527848
he's highly technical ya. you'd have to be an idiot not to see that.

but at the core of it all his music is all pretentious wanking. Not to mention he's a grade A douchenozzle in real life

>>71528500
Like 3 years self taught and 1 beginners class for one of those years. Now I'm in a Jazz Band and I have no idea where to begin with the notes on the music sheet. Although the chords I'm getting much better at.

>>71528211
>ADMIRE his playing

Whats not to admire? His skill? His vision and imagination? Sense of Humour? Self deprecation? Belief in light without heat? Affinity for little green men?

How can you not hear this and chuckle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5J2sMq18qs

>>71528550
>all his music is all pretentious wanking

you would only say this if you havent actually heard all of his music. So...try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OaLbZh_vl4

>>71528551
what are some songs you are proud that you can play throughout ? im trying to measure myself through you, I've played 2.5 years

>>71528498
why did you bother posting this

>>71524940
>tfw started on a $50 first act special
>guitar was garbage that never stayed in tune but had the most comfortable neck i've ever played
>practice amp was shitty and never sounded good
>one night i got pissed off and jammed the headstock into the amp out of frustration
>suddenly the sweetest tone i'd ever heard

shame that i lost it in a flood. I had trashed the guitar years ago but i held onto that amp for nearly a decade because of how sweet it sounded.

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Post guitar solos that aren't Steve Vai and don't involve mindless wanking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL3tHSirggs

Guise, I really, really think I'm going to impulsively buy the Dean VMNT Dave Mustaine guitar.
I've never owned a V guitar before, but I just...can't...stop. I want it

>>71528211
bunch of ultimateguitar rejects

>>71528563
yeah we get it you are in love with him
its a bit creepy now dude

>>71528672
I got permabanned from UG about 7 years ago, I used to be a well known and popular member in The Pit, their off-topic board.

>>71528691
I still have my account (11 years old) logged in, but I don't post on the forums. I only that site for tabs

>>71528608
Under the Bridge by RHCP is one of my favorite, Open Arms, Smells like Teen Spirit, Say it ain't so, etc...you know like the super stereotypical guitar songs every should know by now. If it helps, I know my notes on my guitar, it's just transposing music notes to my guitar confuses the every living hell out of me

>>71528691
same

funny thing is that i got banned because i called Steve Vai garbage once too many times and would relentlessly shit on all the Chickenfoot articles popping up on the main page.

of course i was also 14 at the time, but my opinions still stand to this day

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>>71528672
>>71528691
>using non-anonymous forums or imageboards

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>>71528650

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z_drl3luuE

My favorite solo

>>71528650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTsY-oz6Go

Still have no idea how he plays that fast with all those bends.

>>71528722
I just got banned 3 times, which results in a permaban.
People were making threads about me asking to have me unbanned and putting it in their signatures and stuff, it was pretty funny.
Now I consider UG to be the biggest site of guitar related internet cancer there is. I want that site to go down so much, songsterr is infinitely better for tabs anyway

>>71528680

I get it...hes really good so your instinct is to denigrate him to cover for your own inadequacies.

So many songs with no solos and or even guitar and yet supposedly all he does is wank...whatever "dude"

plebs gonna pleb

>>71528718
hell yeah man those are fun songs, and yeah I feel you, I would be SOL if I were to try and read music, I'm sure since you know the notes you are more than halfway there. I definitely wish I was in a band, I love playing the guitar don't get me wrong but I would benefit from playing things I don't necessary listen too.

>>71528776
the fact you get this defensive just makes your crush on him even creepier dude
might be time to just stop posting

>>71528650

>kiss

KYS

>>71528812

thats funny. just cuz I point out that you're an idiot doesnt mean I am defensive. Its not my fault your opinion is based on ignorance.

>>71528563
>How can you not hear this and chuckle?
Very fucking easily

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how can i emulate the tone on this album

>>71523681
He's a respectable musician but not a respectable person

>>71528759
It's called not being a dickhead

>>71528908
I don't know enough about his personal life so I'll take your word for it, but he is absolutely very talented at the guitar. He was probably overrated at first because he was just a good looking guy who made love songs but he is really talented.

>>71524940
I had a camouflage one when I was five as my first electric guitar it was a strat copy with a shitty amp. Shit never stayed in tune, lost it in a move and didn't start playing guitar again until I was twelve and got my Epiphone SG.

>>71528759

When I hear that it sounds like monkeys banging on tin cans compared to this...does that make me a pleb?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8WHA3WWz0

>>71528399
hehe, still can't get over that strap belt thing :) that's so cool.

>>71528874

then you are an uptight prick. but I am sure you already knew that.

is it normal for gutiar rig to sound like shit with a $220 guitar or is it just my pc and lack of mixing?

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>>71528981
We need another "be nice to one another" thread immo

>>71529061
I've never managed to get a good tone for a mix with guitar rig

>>71528960
i always hated that cover.

EVH is a great guitarist no doubt, but it tries so hard to capture that raw proto-punk sound of the original but just fails because all Eddie knows is how to squeal and tap and sweep.

you say the original sounds like untrained monkeys banging on tin cans, and the Van Halen cover sounds like monkeys being fed into a woodchipper.

>>71524940
Found a first act acoustic in the trash. Played it for me mum while camping until the humidity made it fall apart.

>>71527595
>Steve Vai bores me to death.

Hes allright. Obviously technically brilliant but a little goes a long way. But he is super quirky and weird which makes him more interesting than most wankers.

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Guys what reverb pedal should I get the Boss RV-6, or the EHX Cathedral?

>>71529086
ya the effects sound like shit and i cant try the other softwares because im a poor fuck and those motherfuckers keep upgrading their security

>>71529149
Cathedral. BOSS is overrated and overpriced

>>71527621
>https://clyp.it/4y4fqnnt
I like it, very clear sounding.

>>71529098
>Van Halen cover sounds like monkeys being fed into a woodchipper.

which sounds infinitely more interesting.

>all Eddie knows is how to squeal and tap and sweep.

I will just chalk that up to a very broad generalization cuz its not very accurate at all

>>71528981
Maybe I am, doesn't change the fact that it was stupid unfunny garbage and you should feel bad for posting it.

>>71529155
Just torrent Bias for amps and torrent a Waves pack for any effect you can think of

>>71528960
Really? That song/solo basically spawned rock and roll in Britain. I guess it can feel dated since it was recorded 5 decades ago.

>>71528921
Genius

>>71529162
I've never played a cathedral but I'd take an electro harmonix holy grail over the boss

>>71528691
>>71528760
Why were you banned?

>>71529196
tried using bias but it sound completely unusable but i think that it was my pc because there was nothing but feedback, i was using my focusrite solo interface and i couldnt tweak the preferences because i didnt install the standalone version just the VST


so i should download the positive grid bias amp and the Wave Arts Plugins Pack for delay and modulation? which vst for distortion?

How long can I expect it to take for me to get this fast run up to speed?

https://youtu.be/5mmlgLjwMKM?t=82

https://clyp.it/tcvakvlo

>>71524293
>muh pentatonic scale

just stop. he's a great slide player though

>>71529193
>

actually...it does.

>>71529311
I really only use a screamer VST (TSE 808) with Bias so can't really help you with distortion pedal simulators. I think Bias has an FX pack VST too though which I've only heard good things about.

>>71529187
Thanks man!

>>71529365

but he plays so much more than just pentatonic...and he plays a lot with out a slide...

but there is something special in his phrasing that really resonates...and he has a great band and great songs of which his playing is only part.

>>71529375
No, it doesn't

>>71529495
he plays better with the slide

>great band
>great songs
citation needed

>>71529423
and for delays what do you recommend?

>>71526527
lmao, because thats why im restoring it. no wonder /gg/ is shit. cunts like you are on it

I want my next guitar to be a Strat. What finish should I get on it?

>>71529562
I pretty much only use Waves H-Delay or the built in one in Reaper, but there probably are a lot of other good choices

>>71529651
You should finish it in the trash desu

>>71529718
>Not liking Strats

>>71529651
Burgundy mist is best for rosewood neck, blonde with gold anodized pickguard is best for maple neck

>>71529756
Thin strats are better

Can't decide between a Tele or a Strat. Help.

>>71529837
get a jaguar :^)

>>71529837
Tele's sound too thin to me. Strat I think

>>71529837
Are you new? Or have you played a while?

I'm pretty new but I've read a lot about guitars, and from what I gather, Tele is more distinct between pickups, but Strat is more comfortable to play... although most people these days don't use the vibrato unit.
There's a lot to both. Aesthetically I prefer the Tele but I donno

>>71529837
Probably whichever is comfier/feels right to be playing. You obviously can't go wrong either way and can text both out at any guitar store.

>>71529887
this is such a dumb thing to say
like you could even tell the difference if you heard both

>>71529923
I'm not sure if my local store will have one since they're not a Fender dealer anymore.

>>71529932
Just take a trip to your nearest Guitar Center/big box store. They'll have like more than dozen of each.

>>71529948
I'm probably going to tomorrow.

this conversation happens probably close to once a day, it comes down to personal preference, guitars keep most of their value so you can always resell one if you don't like it

>>71529520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgEELSShrU

>>71529972
yeah gonna need an actual citation

>>71529966
Make sure to practice your Nirvana songs so you can perform properly in the Guitar Center.

>>71529520
>citation needed

I guess this doesnt count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx_UaQx5eZQ

>>71529927
>like you could even tell the difference if you heard both

Just how many retarded posts are you going to make tonight?

There's a very noticeable different between teles and strats. Say he wants to play heavy lead, a tele is going to hamper his tone hugely. Stop posting unhelpful shite.

>>71529927
I think I could actually. Teles are ass

>>71529982
Nah, I'm not one of those faggots.

>>71529981

meaning what? You think its a bad song? bad band?

its a great song and its a great band...and they have many more great songs but something tells me you will not allow yourself to admit it.

>>71530008
I assumed you were a retard and now you've proved it. just stop posting now.

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>>71530008

>>71530008
>Say he wants to play heavy lead, a tele is going to hamper his tone hugely. Stop posting unhelpful shite.

I wouldn't really say a Strat is the best for "heavy" either though...

>>71530017
>when you really love the look of teles but want one with a goldfoil neck pickup

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>>71530008
>Say he wants to play heavy lead, a tele is going to hamper his tone hugely
Imagine actually typing this.

>>71529207
>I guess it can feel dated since it was recorded 5 decades ago.

yet 10yrs later the VH version sounds 20yrs newer....unreal how VH changed the World.

>>71529985
that's a different band

>>71530026
yes, that it's a bad song

guitar center price matches with sweetwater/amaaon so have your phone on you

>>71530123

How high are you right now?

>>71530144

actually, you are incorrect. fake news. try again.

>>71529837
>tele
Vomit

>>71529837

My vote is for a Tele, it's the ur-electric guitar. A classic among classics. Buy one and mod it to taste.

>>71530186

what does truth have to do with drugs?

>>71530144
>that's a different band

but goddamn what a band and what a song.

>>71527771
I was fond of the albums she's made so far, but I know she busy sucking Sambora's dick for the past few years or else we'd have had something new from her by now.

>>71530581
sure

Beginner tier, want some drills to improve my dexterity. Any tips?

>>71530658
do chromatic scaling for hours

>>71530666
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/m/misc_scales/chromatic_scale_tab.htm

?

>>71530708
just pick 4 frets and put one finger in each fret and go up and down in that position, picking one fret at a time with each finger

>>71530548

Sorry, I thought you were high because of your poor grasp of the English language.

>>71530658
I'd recommend switching off between practicing plain chromatic ole' scales and trying to learn reelin in the years, which is is a lot like the scales themselves, the sheet music is online but it will keep your learning fresh and and its pretty fun if you're into that sort of music.

>>71528098
I don't think I'd call Chis Broderick someone with an "artistic vision" though. I would say Vai is one of the few "shredders" who has put songwriting before technical skill. There's a fluidity to his playing that makes the guitar sound much more vocal than you might expect. Check out his "Sound Theories" live double album; the second half of it doesn't even feature the guitar at all, it's just an orchestra playing compositions that Vai wrote for a large ensemble.

>>71530742

cuz grammar skills are important on 4chan.

fuck off first then KYS.

>>71523681
is justinguitar really a good place to start learning? Where do I go from there when I finish? How can I truly become a rock god?

>>71530770
>one of the few "shredders" who has put songwriting before technical skill

Nick Johnston is another one. He can shred just as hard as anyone out there, but most of the time he'll use leads similarly to simple vocal melodies which is really refreshing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdJpfHSfpTc

>>71531042

This has nothing to do with being on 4chan. No matter where you are you should be able to communicate your thoughts clearly. Your original sentence doesn't even make sense.

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>>71531118
>How can I truly become a rock god?

Bending and Vibrato
If you can master those two, you'll sound like a guitar legend

>>71531118
Justin's videos were really helpful to me, because of his enthusiasm and ability to clarify why he does certain things. I still use his pivot method of changing chords and hold my A like him.
He's a really nice guy. Had his page bookmarked for years.
Kind of feel like I know him just from watching videos.

Where you go from there is Google, probably, if you don't want to just figure things out on your own.

>>71531125
Yep, I listen to a lot of Nick Johnston's playing too. I like his method of building songs around melodic passages and then improvising over the changes. It's very Jeff Beck (who I know both Johnston and Vai cite as an influence).

>>71531131

I understood what he said.

Moreover, your original comment seemed to be referring to his opinion of the music and mentioned nothing of grammar or syntax which means you were unable to communicate your thoughts clearly.

Thus, it would appear that you should, indeed, fuck off.

>>71530770
>I would say Vai is one of the few "shredders" who has put songwriting before technical skill. There's a fluidity to his playing that makes the guitar sound much more vocal than you might expect.


I dont get all the Vai hate. Hes obviously an extremely good guitar player, exceptionally well versed musically and writes some really interesting, if not fascinating, songs.

If someone says all he does is wank then they really have no idea of what they are talking about.

>>71525426

Folks, here is the quintessential gear fag. Only interested in body shape, how the guitar looks, what strap they can buy.

These people talk all day about gear and amps but can never muster up the discipline to even practice 30 minutes a week.

If you're more into the gear side than the playing side, just say that. Don't call yourself a guitar player. Just buy gear, work on guitars and maybe become a guitar tech.

I would like to be able to ride a skateboard well, but since I don't care enough to risk breaking my bones to get good, I don't have the right to call myself a "skater".

If all you care about is gear and visuals, don't even strap the guitar on. Just look at it from across the room and shut up.

The world has plenty of shit, lazy, half assed musicians. It doesn't need more.

>>71526464
My first guitar was an old harmony archtop acoustic. Loved it. Lasted like 25 years. I gotmit from my aunt who goti t for my cousin in the 80s

>>71531448
It's actually me, and I censored myself from letting out how big of a lamewad I felt like for buying into aesthetics.
Last week I practiced for about 8 hours a day at minimum each day, because I liked my new guitar.
I dream of being a guitar builder. I read build threads on my spare time.
I love the guitar.
I don't even have any pedals.
Aesthetics isn't all I care about, but it helps.
I'm not a good guitarist but I'm a pretty good singer, or I used to be.
There's more to my life story that you don't need to know.

tl;dr I think the world needs more musicians and I'm one of them

>>71531421
I mean, I kind of get it. I jumped off the Vai train for a while after I discovered jazz and more experimental rock. Via definitely got me into some cool melodic stuff (he's really good at super-imposing modes) but I didn't really know enough theory at the time to appreciate it, it was just really different from the blues-based rock and neo-classical stuff I was into as a teenager. And obviously if you don't like shredding at all (which is totally fine) you aren't going to dig on his stuff. But since then I've come back around to his music and I'm always impressed by how complete his command of the guitar is. I don't think there's anything he can't play or translate from his head to his hands. I'm pretty sure he's the only guitar player of his caliber who doesn't already want to be Steve Vai.

Btw if you're ever curious to look up some of his REALLY early stuff you can find his old Berklee homework online, mostly transcriptions including some John McLaughlin material.

Can I get some input from some people here? This is my first time ever recording anything and I want to know if i'm on the right track with my compression and EQ

https://soundcloud.com/jayocaine/deaner

>>71531421
>really interesting, if not fascinating, songs.

He is a great composer. This is a great composition. He also plays the piano on this song as well. The bees freak me out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqdk2z-6Xo

>>71525462
>his guitar work is excellent
he's a 2nd rate srv clone and nothing more. yawn

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>>71531621

>>71531825
If John Mayer is a second-rate clone of anyone, it's BB King. Mayer's playing is way too restrained to be SRV.

Also does anyone else not find SRV's playing interesting in the slightest? I don't hear anything in his lines that Hendrix wasn't doing better two decades before.

>>71524940
I'm sure it plays like ass, but i actually love the shape of that guitar. Neat.

>>71528963
>hehe
L O N D O N

>>71531919
>not find SRV's playing interesting in the slightest?

no. I love Stevie's tone, his phrasing is unique to himself and his Texas heritage- Jimmy Reed etc...even when he is playing hendrix he sounds nothing like him- he has a much more melodic flow to some of his runs...Stevie was pure joy. sure he could play lickety split but he was so much more than that. Even Albert King wants him to play the Hendrix licks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJgI_R2Mk84

>>71532017
?

>>71529985

damn. That was sick. Who is that bass player?

>>71532068
girls use smileys and they say "hehe" Just figured you're a cute girl, and inquiring as to whether you live in london

i slept through practise today because i'm a useless sleep deprived cunt. what do i say to the leader to regain my approval?

this is the first time it's happened btw

>>71531919
Yeah, whenever I hear a SRV Hendrix cover I instinctively turn it off and switch to a Hendrix version for that reason.

>>71532085
I'm as far from a cute girl as you could ever get, luckily for you, I'm not residing in London

>>71531919
>I don't hear anything in his lines that Hendrix wasn't doing better two decades before.

Said something very similar to a friend the other day; SRV just sounds like Hendrix but not as clever.

>>71532117
then stop confusing people with your hehes and smileys

>>71531919
If you think SRV'S playing is uninteresting then you've probably only heard his studio shit, you need to hear his live performances which is where he really performed his best work.

I saw Yvette young play tonight

>>71532127
hehe, I'll try :3

>>71532145
homo

>>71532026
That's fine if you like him, man. I know I'm in the minority when I say I don't. I've dug through recordings and live footage of him and I just haven't heard anything I like. The tone is like, weirdly strident against the backing music and his whole shtick just sounds tacky to me. Even in this video he just sounds like he's trying to keep up with Albert King, and by comparison King has a better feel for the music.

>>71532137
I've always thought that the point of recording in a studio was to capture the best possible performance.

Hey guys

Thinking about buying a Zoom G3X. Thoughts on the unit? Will it sound good to play gigs?

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>>71523681
>YUH BAHDY IS UH WUNDUHLAN
It's getting harder and harder to take anyone in these threads seriously.

>>71532184

There is no accounting for taste. I would much rather hear SRV play Hendrix than Hendrix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYEEovuhsgY

>>71532124
>>71532110
SRV's tone is just kind of so-so to me. Like, it's a nice, twangy Strat snarl but live it sounds overbearing. On the other hand, Hendrix would literally just turn everything on his amp to 10 (which is about as unsophisticated an approach as you can take to tone) and his playing still managed to come across as smooth and cool as he was.

>>71532076

Oteil Burbridge

>>71524183
Vai is fantastic though. He's like Joe Satriani if Satriani had any actual artistic vision and genuine emotion in his playing. He's obviously insanely skilled but isn't just random wanking, he's always shifting his playing style as his songs go on and clearly puts thought into his compositions.

His problem is that he blew his whole load by the mid to late 90s and every time he puts out a new album it sounds like the previous one. Flex-Able and Passion & Warfare are great though. The album he did with Devin Townsend has its moments and Alien Love Secrets is great.

>>71532254
I actually think this is pretty cool but I like the chaotic noise aspect of it because I like that sort of music in general. His blues playing does nothing for me.

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>>71532335
The mere fact you even know the names of steve vai albums makes you a mega gaylord.

>>71524802
I've never heard good digital sounds. I'm not entirely against it, but I would have to hear something that sounds good first.

Sadly I have to use digital when recording since the one time I tried micing an amp I got a noise complaint. I use a Fender Mustang amp and it sounds alright with cleans, distortion sounds like garbage most of the time.

>>71532184
The point of recording in a studio is to do both that and make records to sell but you can't be in the studio all the time now can you? People like SRV perform on the road a lot and it gets recorded. When you're playing the same music over and over you tend to change it up, it evolves and gets better.
>Even in this video he just sounds like he's trying to keep up with Albert King
>implying it's not the other way around
Oh I see, you're one of those. Best to just go do something else.
>King has a better feel for the music
Nah

>>71532353
I've seen him 5 times, met him twice and own all his albums. Also he's the bet living guitarist. If you can't see his worth as a guitarist chances are you're a shit player.

>all these redditor hipster cucks
wew

>>71532184
>I've always thought that the point of recording in a studio was to capture the best possible performance.

Usually good musicians have trouble capturing their sound in the studio. Yet often times shit musicians can still make something that sounds good in a studio.

Obviously this isn't always the case, but SRV was obviously the type of player who would sound best live.

>>71532254
kek that is some sonic youth tier noise garbage right there. the best part is your probably a blooze dadrawker who makes fun of shoogayz and you posted that vid trying to defend srv

>>71532353
>mega gaylord.

the fact that you used that term makes you a fucking tool

>>71532026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEuKbE4MXPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x70G-NhyUPI

Weirdly enough I think his best songs are the ones where he's not playing straight Texas blues

>>71532374
I'm not sure I know what you mean by "one of those", but I'll clarify: I don't think SRV was consciously trying to "play like Albert King", more so that King's playing is so powerful and expressive even while being more reserved than Stevie, whereas Stevie sounds like he's just trying to play the most notes. Which I don't think is the kind of player Stevie wanted to be, so it's a bit disheartening to listen to. I just don't hear anything super unique in his phrasing besides a few Dorian ideas.

>>71532353
>The mere fact

Kill yourself nu-male scum. Sorry some people actually enjoy musicians with genuine talent.

>>71532335

Fire Garden has some great stuff on it.

>>71532507
Dude, "The Crying Machine" is some of the most voice-like phrasing ever.

>>71532387
>he is the best typist in the world!
technical ability =/= artistry
learn the difference
he is a shitty shitty artist
just because he can type all crazy on a typewriter like a madman does not mean he can write a story worth a shit that anybody wants to read

>>71532440
>kek

kek is for cucks. The worst part is you are likely a 14 yr old child who hasnt a clue about what actually constitutes a valid opinion.

>>71532369

I like Scuffham S-Gear, it's the only amp sim software I've found that gets close to a real mic'd sound, and it still isn't perfect.

>>71532470
I would agree with you, I feel like playing over less conventional blues-based rock forces him into more interesting directions. But if I want to continuously listen to a blues-rock guitarist play fusion competently I'll put on some Eric Johnson thankyouverymuch.

>>71532514

some of his best playing is actually on the PIL album he did with Johhny Lydon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsdGbr_UWmE

>>71532515
>technical ability =/= artistry
This was my point though. He's a lot more than just that, yet it's the excuse people always give when calling him shit simply becaue he IS that fucking talented.

Like I said, he can play in insane amount of styles and uses a load of techniques and it's this diversity that makes his compositions and solos so engaging. He's not like Satriani who just wanks endlessly over 4 chords.

>>71532531
kek stay mad buttblooze dadrawker

>>71532572
>He's a lot more than just that
he is not
learn the difference plebe

>>71532515
>confirmed for not knowing shit about Vai

The man has played for Zappa, DLR, PIL and has tons of solo work that covers all sorts of styles and genres.

>>71532592
>he is not
It never fails that the people with no taste also can't make an actual argument to save their life.

>le Steve vai is bad meme

>>71532515
>learn the difference

Believing that all Vai brings to the table- or stage- is "technical ability" indicates a level of ignorance that should preclude you from voicing your opinion.

That you are too ignorant to recognize the "artistry"" of Steve Vai is on you...dont burden up with your ignorance.

>>71532599
>the man has shat out all kinds of different colored turds of varying consistency
>>71532615
>It never fails that the people with no acquired taste for turds don't like the taste of shit sandwiches
>>71532627
>Steve vai is good
kek

>>71524035
Play music. Play along to your favorite songs, even ones you don't really like. And learn them well, I might add.

If you can absorb all the musical information available, your instincts as a player will grow on their own. You'll learn good chord progressions, the scales and sounds that work within them, and how to form your own in the future.

As a side note, don't ever compare yourself. It's not a race. Practice everything that you can. John Mayer spent his teenage years alone in a bedroom, working at it everyday.

Remember that we're all just kids from somewhere.

>inb4 nice speech fag

>>71532566
Ah, cool, didn't even know the two had collaborated. But thanks for reminding me that The Sex Pistols were a thing and that I need to listen to them now.

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>>71532627
its not a meme though
really makes you think

>>71532573

I am actually laughing at just how far from the truth you really are. shocker.

>>71532470
Nice choices, have youheard his Little Wing from the El Mocambo set?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6G53BMgugo

Another son of his I am partial to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtij9_fLhKA

>>71532649
>i don't like an artist
>i can't explain why he's shit
>luckily he's super talented so i can just point out that talent doesn't equal being good
>god i'm so fucking smart

>>71532646
>>71532688
>waaaah
>don't say my favorite turd tastes like shit because your pallet can't distinguish the fine differences between the corn and peanut kernels

>>71532670
You could cal anyone from the 80s gay though. It's not exactly fair.

>>71532708

found the 10yr old.

>>71525492
Bonamassa is a fine player, but it always seems like the same lightning fast blues playing we've heard time and time again. Autism blues, if you will.

>>71532680
I love his version of little wing. His tone fits perfectly

>>71532716
>waaaah
>my turd
this is you

>>71532670

>gay

in band with David Lee Roth

whats up with the sperge-lords tonight?

>>71532708
It's not annoying that you think Vai is shit. It's annoying that you aren't intelligent enough to explain why you think he's shit.

Why do you have opinions if you don't have any thoughts?

>>71532733

and confirmed.

>>71532736
>sperge-lords
>sperge

the memes just write themselves

>>71532649
>doesn't like people with talent

Lol this hasn't been edgy in like 15 years. Try harder.

i'm pretty much a total noob at all things music (i currently have 3 months of teaching myself guitar under my belt). a buddy of mine, who's a bassist, suggested i learn music theory as i'm first learning guitar. however, he has no formal training in how to teach music theory, and has learned mostly from taking music classes in high school and uni, so he's having a hard time breaking things down into basic enough english for a retard to understand. so far he's more been guiding me on what to learn at my own pace, but we're kinda unsure what i should be tackling next. so far i've focused my time on:
>how chords/scales are formed
>finding specific notes on specific strings (i'm starting to be able to ballpark to within about a whole step by eyeballing the fretboard for a couple seconds rather than counting down from fret 1 or up from fret 12)
>i'm starting to learn how to form chords at different frets than the basic major chords i first learned.
>also starting to practice the F bar chord, which is a fucking cunt. i've pretty much learned E, A, D, G, and C to the point where i can place all fingers down at about the same time, rather than one at a time, without having to look at the fretboard
sorry for the wall of text my dudes

>>71532708
confirmed for being a Pop-Punk fan

>>71528939
He came up at same time as Gavin Degraw, Jason Mraz, etc. dominated the airwaves so it's understandable. Room for Squares is filled with a lot of complex chord shapes but Wonderland overshadowed that imo.

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ahhhhhhh

>>71532793
I really liked a lot of Room For Squares, minus Wonderland. Neon is a great song, easily one of his best tracks. Wish we could have gotten more of that from him.

>>71532748
>>71532751
>>71532766
>>71532787
>waaaaah
>muh turd wank music
>don't point out I enjoy eating shit sandwiches
>and washing it down with a pint of piss
>no one's allowed to have an opinion on my disgusting meals