/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

>anon still fell for the duo-sonic meme

>>71514800
I expected a shitpost, but not like this

Why aren't you practicing right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC5H9P4F5Uk

reposting for /gg/ jelly

>>71514831
I played so long today that my technique was starting to get worse so there was no point

>>71514831
too drunk, Listening to Santana ballads for them feels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2ya7G7wlI

>>71514831
It's bed time anon

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https://youtu.be/U7s--IzoYnY

HOW DO YOU FUCKING NIGGERS DO IT

I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS AND I STILL CAN'T NAIL THIS FUCKING SONG

FUCK

Does anyone actually play in Open E tuning?

If so, can I ask why you are such a faggot?

Anyone who plays in open E just reveals a core lack of understanding of music.

To be willing to tune your strings UP higher than their intended pitch and risk damaging or snapping them ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF KEY makes you a retard. You could easily tune the other strings down relative to the high strings, and have the same tuning intervals but simply in a lower key. Even then, all you would have to do to play in your intended open E key is just play higher up the neck.


If you play in open E, you LITERALLY damage your instrument for the sole purpose of having the E key in a certain SPECIFIC POSITION on the fretboard. This means you're worthless as a person and everyone who loves you is wrong.

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Before I discovered the Brian Jonestown Massacre, playing guitar made no sense to me.

I have been reborn.

>>71514920

Not to mention fucking with your neck tension

>>71514920
I've literally never heard of anyone using Open E

>>71514920
I mean you could say the same about Open C, considering it sounds like absolute shit.

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Call me names for wanting this guitar.

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>>71514836

>>71514984
You're a cool guy!

>>71514984
It's a nice guitar.

>>71515021
>>71515029
Not the reaction I was expecting, but I'm pleasantly surprised

What's the spookiest sounding scale?

>>71515065
led zeplin stairway to heaven

>>71514920
Why are you so passionate about this anon? I've never heard of anyone using open E tuning.

>>71515078
Come on, anon. That's not a real answer

>>71515089
kid rock american bada**

>>71514940
>Open C, considering it sounds like absolute shit.

Uuuh, no it doesn't. It's also extremely common. Not to mention it doen't relate to anything that guy wa saying about Open E. It's extremely easy to tune to Open C and not damage your instrument or fuck with your strings.

>>71514984
>Call me names for wanting this guitar.

That's not a Jaguar though... so why would we call you names?

>>71514920
do you have any go-to tunings or is it more just about protecting the guitar

>>71515108
This

I own a Jaguar too

Total fucking shit.

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>>71515108
Wish I could pony up $1800 for this senpai, look at all the bells and whistles! I'd be drowning in latina muff

>>71515108
yeah good point

>>71515138
>look at all the bells and whistles!
ALL american manufactured guitars look like this now.

>>71515146
Jaguars, not guitars*

>>71515094
>censoring yourself

It's ok anon, mommy's not watching you here.

>>71515163
haha don't get butthurt if you're get memed on

>>71515108
>>71515126

What the fuck is wrong with Jaguars? Aren't they just like Jazzmasters with more tone control options (switches and shit)?

roman are you here? I want to ask you a question

>>71515180
this. Jaguars did nothing wrong.

>>71515172
>not knowing english

That's not ok anon, go back to class.

>>71515180
They're prettier Jazzmasters without the full scale neck, the ability to play a diverse range of music, and the testicles.

Biggest purchase regret of my life.

>>71515180
>What the fuck is wrong with Jaguars?

They're popular, especially among /mu/tants since it's associated with a lot of Indie/Alternative/Shoegaze bands and is on the cover of Loveless. Therefore it's become known as a meme.

They're actually pretty great instruments though I've heard they are prone to falling apart. I've never owned one though so I can't say for sure. I've played them quite a few times though.

>>71515211
What limits Jaguars as far as diversity in your opinion? I was thinking of buying one over a Jazzmaster for the opposite reason.

>>71515216
>I've never owned one though so I can't say for sure.
I've had to have the floating tremolo fixed three times, so yeah that is accurate.

>>71515230
The pickups. They're twangy and bright. And that's about all they are. Good luck getting any sort of sustain without using a Big Muff or a Freeze something.

>>71515251
Also my Jaguar cost about $1100 give or take.

My Hagstrom Viking cost about $550.

The Jaguar hardly gets touched anymore.

>>71514809
Is it a meme? I want the white one desu :^(

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>>71515251
>The pickups. They're twangy and bright.

What about an HH Jaguar?

>>71515293
Buy what you want anon. Don't worry about what the faggots here think.

>>71515287
And oh yeah, the feedback that Jaguar produces is absolute fucking garbage. All I get is the highest fucking ear piercing squeal you can imagine. You can't even manipulate it or play with it in anyway.

>>71515308
Never played one or heard one played outside of Cobain. Can't say anything about them.

>>71515308
>What about an HH Jaguar?
Not him, but obviously that would negate the pickup issue. But then again, why would you want a Jaguar that doesn't sound like a Jaguar? I would say go to a local store and see if you can play these instruments and see for yourself. Don't just buy a Jaguar over a Jazzmaster because it looks pretty though.

>>71515293
/gg/ will meme on you no matter what you buy

>>71515293
it was a meme for me considering I literally already own a MIM strat, people are generally divided but honestly there are some legitimate complaints, the stock neck pickup on the MIM HS configuration is really unsatisfactory IMO. Also its a smaller scale, just feels weird. From a purely economic standpoint there is better value to be had, but I suppose some people love it.

I got drunk and recorded this pls r8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcjsZi6cBD0

>>71515330
Well I wasn't buying it simply for the looks, as I noted earlier I assumed the Jag would be more versatile due to all the knobs and switches. Seems hard to believe the Jazzmaster would be more versatile.

And I do intend to play one in person before deciding. Though I have watched some videos on youtube and the Jaguar seems pretty versatile from what I've seen. Especially the HH since it has a coil tap so I can get a good humbucker and single coil tone.

>>71515357
>I assumed the Jag would be more versatile due to all the knobs and switches
Ugh.

You see the three knobs and the switch at the top of the Jaguar?

Yeah. They're fucking useless. The switch controls whether you are playing the guitar in the rhythm circuit or the lead circuit.

I am telling you right now you will never, ever use the rhythm circuit.

The three switches at the bottom select which pickups you are using. Literally every electric guitar has these switches.

>>71515342
you're ready for the stage

>>71515381
To emphasize, there is a reason why a lot of Jaguar players put tape over the rhythm/lead circuit selector switch. It's because if they accidentally hit the switch and push it down, they'll put the guitar into the rhythm circuit, rendering it pretty much useless.

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>>71515333
this is the truth.
its why i never post pics of my gear or clips of my playing. even if i was literally slash people here would still tell me to fuck off with my blues shit.

>>71515083
>>71514939

>Three familiar examples of Open E tuning are the distinctive song "Bo Diddley" by Bo Diddley, the beginning guitar part on the song "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and the rhythm guitar on "Gimme Shelter" by The Rolling Stones, as well as their distinctly earthy blues song "Prodigal Son" from the Beggars Banquet album, originally by Robert Wilkins. This tuning is also used in Guns N' Roses' "It's So Easy," The Black Crowes' "She Talks to Angels", Glen Hansard's "Say It To Me Now", Joe Walsh's "Rocky Mountain Way", Dave Mason's "We Just Disagree", The Faces' "Stay With Me", Billy F. Gibbons in "Just Got Paid", in The Rolling Stones' "Gimme Shelter", lead guitarist Keith Richards uses Open E tuning. Open E tuning also lends itself to easy barre-chording as heard in some of these songs. Chris Martin of Coldplay also uses this tuning live in the song Hurts Like Heaven, but puts a capo on sixth fret.

why bass uses a lot of direct out(with preamps) put into PA for live/ interface for recording,but guitars prefer micing the speaker?

>>71515381
Idk what you're talking about, I use the switches in every configuration on mine for different sounds. It's the most versatile guitar I've ever had. I fucking love Jags.

>>71515398
So what you're really saying is that /gg/ will meme on you if you post dadrock/bluesy guitar shit or post pics of overrated guitars like Les Pauls.

In other words, you have shit taste m8

>>71515405
In this case Open E tuning is the fucking shit. I would just suggest using a guitar you don't give a fuck about unless you're super rich and can afford it.

>>71515420
You only illustrate his point perfectly.

>>71515420
have you ever seen that guy with the list of faggots who ruined /gg/ that names almost everything a guitarist could be playing?

>>71515417
You're going to sit there and tell me that you actually use the rhythm circuit?

>>71515381
This is true. It's like a retard version of the same controls you get on a Les Paul. That being said Jaguars are pretty great if they have the sound you're looking for.

>>71515433
Nope. I'm saying if he had good taste in music or guitars he wouldn't get memed on. He was saying he would get memed on no matter what.

>>71515455
You only continue to further illustrate the point.

>>71515381
>I am telling you right now you will never, ever use the rhythm circuit.

Plebs walk among us every day

>>71515381
>>71515329
>>71515287
And oh fucking yeah, don't even get me started about the fucking bridge on the Jaguar, which I replaced with a Mastery within 2 months of owning the fucking guitar.

>>71515465
If the point is that you're butthurt and in denial then sure. I know he/you was looking for sympathy so I'm sorry to make your day even worse, but it's the truth.

Now learn to fingerpick and play Math-Core or fuck off with your Slash worship

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remember that blacktop HH jag they brought out. this fucking abomination had les paul tom and stop bar. fucking disgusting.

>>71515398
lol i was always take those types of comments as light hearted banter

better to meme than not to meme at all

although i have had very help comments in /gg/ when it comes to saving money on affordable gear

>>71515293
listen to >>71515316 it's your money, your sound and your life enjoy it


so guys i recently bought an epipy g-400 it's frickin sweet and i love it

but a huge but here... just saw a Tony Iommi version being listed and it's sounds wicked as fuck

should i pull the trigger on the beast or should i just go buy the signature pickups and hope i get close to that sound

if anyone has played it before, was wondering how close to the finish on the guitar to the original feel of the g400?

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thats why im so in love with the new offset series mustangs

they have a start style hardtail string through
i always loved mustang but i never used tremolos and i hated that brdige

>>71515469
Look at this tryhard fag fucker.

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How do I improve a MIM standard Stratocaster, nerds?

I was thinking about servicing it and getting new pickups but idk

>>71515442

Not as much as the lower three switches, but yes. Dial in tone knob (thing?), and big muff for a bassy doom tone, and I like the tone up the neck if I want a more rounded sound on higher notes.

I'm not saying I keep that fucker in place or use it every time I pick up the guitar, but there's certainly use for it and it's added to my personal value of the guitar.

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>>71515382
cool

>>71515513
>calling people pleb
>tryhard

Lurk more

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To re-cap:

-The floating tremolo on my Jaguar has broken three (3) times.
-The stock bridge was unbearable to play on and I replaced it as soon as possible.
-The rhythm circuit switch is a useless waste of space and only there as an excuse to add more chrome and to differentiate it from the Jazzmaster
-Pickups suck

Do what you want with this information HH guy. I'm telling you to buy a hollow body instead.

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>>71515488

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Can anybody tell me what make this guitar is? It has no logos or serial numbers anywhere on the body. One of the pickups is a Peavey super ferrite

>>71515514
Do you have any issues that you know you can fix with some work? You can upgrade the pickups and pots it really just depends on what you want to improve.

>>71515574
its fucking hideous

I mistook an audio cable for my headphones and plugged it into my computer from my amp, I think I fried my soundcard

>>71515574
its a peavey poorfag

>>71515585

I know, it looks like shit but surprisingly it doesn't sound like shit. I just want to lower the action on it.

>>71515357
Don't listen to >>71515381 as he clearly doesn't know what the fuck he's saying.

Just watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uMGwEfFI4Y

If you could jam with any one person(s) who would it be and why?

I kinda recently bought a Jazzmaster and really like, so I'll keep the meme-atry going, should I get a jag or a mustang next? I'm going for a surf punk/garage sound.

>>71515649
ur mom

you know why

>>71515647
Holy fuck this guy literally can't even describe what the top switch does. And this is the fucking video you post? You fucking moron.

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>>71515649
we grew up in the same part of St. Louis on olive. I met him a couple times too. My biggest inspiration.

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>>71515620

I need to restring it and clean it, but I think it's just going to be my I just don't give a fuck guitar that still plays ok. Is it worth cleaning up and rebuilding?

>>71515672
"I could never really get this lock to work...doesn't seem to do anything."

Holy shit kill yourself for posting this video. Seriously.

>>71515656
what exactly is surf punk? not memeing generally curious.

>>71515688
one of my personal favorite surf punk bands and bands in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuy_wkN9GaQ

>>71515688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSCYXfpcuSs

>>71515672
>Holy fuck this guy literally can't even describe what the top switch does.
Except he did. Butthurt much?

>>71515683
Massive butthurt levels. I love it.

>>71515697
what makes this surf? and garage rock and this are two different animals , at least the garage rock i'm familiar with

>>71515701
No. He fucking didn't. He described it as "I think when you push this switch down you get the neck pickup."

This is explicitly fucking false. THAT IS THE RHYTHM CIRCUIT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PICKUPS.

Why are people who have never played a Jaguar trying to comment on them? Why? Someone explain this to me.

>>71515683
>I could never really get this lock to work...doesn't seem to do anything."

He's obviously talking about his specific guitar which he said is almost 20 years old you fucking mong.

Now if he had said something like "This switch is useless because you'll NEVER use the rhythm circuit" then I wouldn't have posted it. Thankfully he wasn't that foolish.

>>71515709
oh nvm I should have waited I can hear the classiq dick dale surfy twang

>>71515649
a clone of myself

>>71515717
"Could never get it to work"
"Could never"
"Never"

Quit making excuses. Your'e a mentally challenged fucking moron who posted a dumb video by a fat pudgy faggot who didn't even know how to use his own guitar.

HURRR HURR THE TOP SWITCH IS THE PICKUP SELECTOR.

>>71515715
>He described it as

He demonstrated it m8. I don't care if the the technical terminology was a bit off, he actually showed what the guitar does and we could see/hear it.

Now go give bad advice elsewhere.

>>71515696
wow that was a really refreshing listen these guys seem stoked on life thanks for sharing

>>71515740
Correct, he demonstrated why the rhythm circuit is useless, and he even incorrectly described it!!

Completely fucking baffled as to why someone who has never picked up a guitar is in this thread.

>>71515647
Thanks! That helped clear up some of my questions actually. I also watched one on the HH Jag and I see the settings for that actually seem to make more sense.

>>71515748
>Completely fucking baffled as to why someone who has never picked up a guitar is in this thread.

I'm baffled as to why you think nobody should use the rhythm circuit since you just don't like it.

>>71515745
no problem man. If they're ever in your town, check em they're live shows are really good.

>>71515763
I'm dying at the thought of some nerd playing his Jaguar in his parents house at 1am with the rhythm circuit on so that he doesn't wake them up.

Don't worry, I'm not talking about you though. You've never played a Jaguar in your life. But hey, try to pretend to know more about Jaguars than a Jaguar owner because you watched some bullshit Youtube video with misinformation out the asshole.

>>71515763
Not him but he's absolutely right you know. If you tore out the lead/rhtym circuit switch there's no sound capabilities lost on the guitar. It's only useful if you want to use the top knobs to control volume and tone... and why would you?

>>71515580
>depends on what you want to improve
i want to make it more gud

there's some rust on the screws and shit too, idk how to clean it up

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>>71515795

Who the fuck cares you asshurt faggot. Let people play their guitars how they want and shut the fuck up.

the rhythm circuit was only included on the jaguar for the purpose of style

there is no reason to use it. not sure why people in here are bending over backwards to defend the fucking rhythm circuit.

fender literally got rid of it on the american jaguars.

>>71515810
>Let people play their guitars how they want and shut the fuck up.
Protip: No one, and I mean no one, is going to "want" to play a Jaguar with the rhythm circuit engaged. You're a dumbfuck. Quit posting.

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>it's a two morons argue the whole time thread

>>71515803
well there are a lot of things that you can fix without having to actually replace anything. Just read up on it senpai its interesting stuff lol. The0" biggest" thing you can realistically upgrade without making it essentially a different guitar is the pickups.

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i don't know boys i was planning on getting a yamaha 320 for $300 but this gamble seems real appealing

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>>71515546
Hollow bodies are the best

People say Rick's are only good for clean jangle but I love putting it through fuzz and overdrives

>>71515546
you seem ok

what you play/where to from boy

>>71515917
Fuck yeah dude go for it.

If he's lying Amazon will hold him responsible.

>>71515918
Pianos Become the Teeth (before they became boring pissbaby wuss shit) had fucking GREAT tone with overdriven ricks. The album Old Pride and their split with The Saddest Landscape are solid.

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>>71515928
kek no they won't. he disclosed the damage. pic related 10% damage with damaged packaging

Is there anything you could wish you had done differently when you were 2 years into learning the guitar? I would really appreciate any advice.

gonna do an open mic at this chill college bar near my place
i want to play live and with other ppl but idk anyone around here who plays
heres the set im doing i think: https://clyp.it/ispupngu
3 songs, 10ish minutes shouldnt be too long right?
i think i can cut some parts out. should i replace one song with a cover?

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>>71515990
I wish someone had just simply shown me scale shapes in the beginning
My guitar teacher in 7th grade taught me scales string by string and I could never visualize these patterns until someone showed me the diagram and then it all made sense

>>71515546
what a poor faggot, I'd like to kill myself if I was you xD.

>>71515991
Don't know how well that would go over at a college bar, but im going to take a leap of faith and guess you're not autistically walking into this bar with no understanding of how open mic's at this venue typically go. that being said, I would cut either the last or 1st song, or on the last song either don't sing or give more effort in the vocals because the half whispering half singing honestly detracts, sorry I'm not trying to hurt your feelings but I listened to it so I'm not going to lie to you. good luck though definitely some enjoyable stretches there.

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>>71516093
>I'm not trying to hurt your feelings

>>71516031
lel are you the same anon trying to educate people on the open e tuning?

>>71515991
do something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1p0sA8bgGA

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tfw your bitch is in for a surprise

>>71516093
nah the place has them on mondays at like 5pm when its still mostly just a restaurant and people are hanging out
its pretty mellow
and thanks for the feedback i actually really appreciate it, i think im gonna cut the last one desu i dont think im comfortable enough with the vocal part yet lol

i could do an instrumental song cause those are probably better and more interesting imo but i feel like this is a good opportunity to get in some practice singing live
also for qts obv >plsnobully

>>71516238
well hell yeah man, wishing you the best of luck. I've never performed in front of an audience but i have to imagine the experience is beneficial creatively as a musician and just for life in general be sure to report back on how it goes lel

>>71515991
>>71516156
maybe i shouldnt do this open mics are gay

>>71515574
Looks like a Peavey T-60

>>71516299
I definitely think you should sing, nobody wants to listen to someone strum through a pretty standard chord progression people respond to sincerity, so try and put together some meaningful words and more importantly sing from the heart, don't focus on sounding good just be real.

>>71516395
thanks and ya i agree
im pretty comfortable playing for friends/family but havent played for strangers in years, never sang either
but i think it could be a lot of fun desu
will be sure to let yall know how it goes

>find nice Tele
>good sound
>fattest neck you can find
>stays in tune
>
>it's in sunburst
Whyyyyyyy

>>71514920
>damage your instrument
Maybe if you play a shitty Indonesian Ibanez with a paper-thin neck. Never heard of a guitar broken with switching tunings. Can fall out of adjustment and you might get a permanently bent neck if it's extremely maladjusted and you keep it that way for months or years. If you want to be pro about it, you tighten the truss rod after increasing string tension, maybe switch to a custom string set instead, also adjust your intonation and keep that guitar in that tuning if you plan on using it.

>>71515429
Stop putting shit in people's heads. Tuning two strings a whole step up and one half step up is not a dramatic tension increase, probably a quarter of a turn of the truss rod and the guitar works fine. Most real guitars - again, not a $200 Ibanez Standard with paper thin neck and soft basswood body - can handle putting jazz-gauged strings (12-54, 13-56 etc.) and tuning them to E standard 440 without any problems. On a basswood Ibanez or an agathis shitty cheapo Cort etc. higher tension can even strip the wood and pull the bridge out of the guitar, get even a freakin' Epiphone Std or a Squier Classic Vibe and you're fine.

>>71515514
A good set up is always recommended, strats are pretty simple to set up yourself if you have a bit of patience, don't be afraid to tweak the action etc. until you get it perfect for you.

Personally I'd also upgrade the electronics, I like changing the tone pot from the middle to the bridge pickup.

Do you use the trem? I set mine flat to the body and set it so it won't budge even with muh bigass blues double bends. If you do like to float the trem then it can be worthwhile changing the bridge.

>>71515546
How does that hagstrom play bro? Would you recommend it for someone looking for a good hollowbody that doesn't really want to spend an arm and a leg on one?

>>71516865
cont. my rant on open E -- when you uptune to upen E and the tension gives you more neck relief, that usually makes the action higher and the guitar plays better with slide. As that's what most people use the tuning for, it's even a benefit rather than a disadvantage and it's a pretty useful tuning to retune to on the spot.

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>tfw ive mastered harmonic minor all over the neck in any key

that raised 7th threw me off because im so used to regular minor but now it sounds like im in the deserts of egypt in 2000bc

>>71515674
>Tfw almost enjoy his playing in Thin Lizzy more than GNR
Lizzy/BSR certainly know how to hire guitarists

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Shopping for a practice amp atm to put on my desk.
Nothing over 8" speaker.
The Roland microcube GX seems really good. Anyone has it? Opinions?

Also feel free to post your practice amp an give me suggestions

reminder that Les Paul design is a smaller exact copy of a 30s gibson guitar

>>71516909
>deserts of egypt in 2000bc
kek this

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Decided to start learning a bit of slide, I can play a few reasonably straightforward songs and am getting used to it.

Anyone got any tips for learning or any songs that feature slide that aren't insanely hard? Would love to play some of pic relatedd stuff but that might be a pipe dream

>>71517187
One of those lil yamahas would be a good shout. Blackstar do a couple of small amps that suit your requirements pretty well too.

>>71517187
My flatmate has a Blackstar Fly and it is surprisingly good. Doubles up as computer speakers too which is nice. Sounds really good, not small and tinny at all.

Thoughts on a Yamaha FG for an intermediate level guitar? Looking to play a mix of fingerstyle and simple acoustic folk, have a budget of about ~£200 and I don't mind buying second hand if the guitar is in good shape.

>>71517408
>Yamaha FG
everything with Yamaha logo on it is quite solid

>>71517359
Scar Tissue

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Sup. I don't work so I'm not exactly rich so new guitars don't come around very often, so I have to research the crap out of everything before I buy. It's 6 years in and it's time to buy my 2nd.

I cannot go to guitar center or whatevs, and I wouldn't anyway. I don't like going out and picking up guitars just off a wall is just I dont know, Ijust want to order something an dhave it arrive and not worry about it all. I get stressed out

I got like $500. What do?

>>71517408
The ones I've tried for students seem good for the price.

If it were me, I'd get something with a smaller body for fingerpicking - Yamaha FS series if your sticking with them

>>71517472
You save up more and deal with talking to people for a minute to try out guitars.
Or just order online and return it if you don't like it. Rinse and repeat.

>>71517485
>return it if you don't like it
No, this stresses me out. I like to order, have it arrive, and it's a good instrument as a result of researching.

Once I've ordered something, that's it, it's mine then.

Also, like I said I can't go to a guitar center or whatever, it's not possible.

>>71517483
Buy from somewhere with a good return policy.

Personally though, I'd never buy an instrument without playing it first

>>71517511
Order this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000RHMWBQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489236466&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=helium+tank&dpPl=1&dpID=41nMiTQW45L&ref=plSrch

>>71517483
I don't mind who I go for really, Yamaha FG just seemed nice because I wanted a folk guitar. My intro guitar was a Stagg classical which I picked up for about £40 and really enjoyed playing - but I've had it for about 5 years now, and I'm looking for something with a bit more body to the sound when I'm strumming something.

>>71517539
Amazon doesn't deliver to my country.

>>71517472
What kind of music do you want to play? What kind of guitar do you have right now and is there anything in particular that you like or dislike about it?

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>>71517539

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>>71517540
You can still strum on a GC or OM sized guitar, just as you can still fingerpick on a Dreadnought, the smaller guitars a just a bit more versatile for my taste.

https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/GFS800T/steel-string-acoustic-guitars/yamaha-fs800t-acoustic-guitar-tinted

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>>71517561
Oh I am sorry I am stressing out about this and I forgot about that.

>What kind of music do you want to play?
Everything apart from what is today called heavy metal. From country to blues and jazz and rock and metal of the old days.

What kind of guitar do you have right now?
A 70s vintage Squier HSS.

>Is there anything in particular that you like or dislike about it?
I don't use or particularly like the tremolo system and if I had known about some problems when i first bought the guitar I would have got a telecaster or something.

>>71517560
you live in somalia?

>>71517642
Oh I am sorry I mean amazon does deliver to my country, but little things. I ordered books once. But delivery cost was more than all the books combined. On guitars I suppose it would be so high, that they don't even offer shipping on any guitars at all.

>>71515674
>olive in stl
nice, same

>>71517633
It's all good bro. Sounds like a guitar with humbuckers that coil split would be a good option, either that or with a HSS type layout.

A tuneomatic type bridge sounds like the right choice for you also, easy to setup and solid tuning stability.

Do you have any preference as far as body shape/size goes? What about neck thickness and fret size?

Is Yamaha Pacifica 112J good beginner guitar? If not, what do you suggest?

>>71517633
I find my HSS Strat is the best out of all the guitars I own for versatility, it covers all the bases really well.

I would get the best one you can find in budget. The tremolo is blocked in mine so don't be put off by that.

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which is less shit? feedback appreciated.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ng9jYoCvWn

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ufbGV6j54m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqV-hJeRIBc

so, how chinese your guitars are?

>>71517840
Almost as much as your word ordering.

>>71517696
Yes it is

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You guys like my strat? I like my strat.

>>71514920
One time I tuned up to F Standard to play along with the Transformers theme song.

>>71517778
That's a good call on the HSS strat, I'd be tempted to go for a G&L Tribute Legacy HSS as they are better than what Fender offers for similar money. It does have a tremolo but it is a much better system that what is in a Squier or MexiFender. I'm a big G&L fan, great guitars and for the money the Tribute series go for, very hard to beat. I would look at the Legacy, Ascari and Asat models, even a Fioriano if you can find one.

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>>71514920
Johnny used to fully tune up a step to accommodate Morrissey's voice.

I dare you to call him a worthless faggot.

>>71517854
nah I am half mexican you faggot

>>71517973
Always been interested in trying a G&L Strat, disregarding price what Fenders would you say they compare to?

Sadly where I live there are no G&L distributors anywhere so I just went for the American Standard. Luckily this was back in 2005 when they were actually priced sensibly, they are really taking the piss with the new American guitars now.

Are any of you guys familiar with John Sykes? What do you think of him?

>>71518050
Dude from Thin Lizzy? Saw them play years ago and I remember them being really good.

>>71518114
Seen videos during the Lizzy reunions with Sykes, he definitely had that heavier mix in the sound with Scoot Gorham that made Thunder and Lightning the heaviest album in the Lizzy catalog, seeing how he eventually went off to Whitesnake.
Personally I think just another 80s shredder I didn't find extraordinary, but his black/chrome LP Custom is probably one of the sexiest out there

>>71518196
Yeah he shreds but is a pretty good songwriter and singer. Better than Coverdale imo

>>71518050
Best vibrato ever

>>71518220
Wasn't really a big Whitesnake fan so I can't say I really got to know all the input he's done for the band, but I can agree his vocals were just a good a fit when he sang for the Lizzy reunions

>>71518196
If I remember correctly he also did lead vocals and was really good. This was about 10 years ago though so could be very wrong.

Hear me jamming /gg/ https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria

>>71514919
why would you even want to play that tasteless wank shit?if you want to play something technically challenging learn a cryptopsy song. i seriously have no clue how anyone, no matter how autistic, could appreciate that shitty excuse for a band. it sounds like video game music in the worst way possible.

>>71518225
No, best vibrato is Ace Frehley's. Nobody ever achieved that relaxed feel he pulled

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How do I clean this mess bros?

>>71518430
Literally soap (or liquid dish soap, whatever), water and something to rub it.
Then it will get dry and light coloured so you put lemon oil and voila its new and fresh

Or, just rub it dry and dont need to remove yar strings. But it will take a lot more rubbing effort

>>71518342
Video game music is good.

https://youtu.be/KPj_z5XSzgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phck3OrPOAA
how difficult do you guys think this song is on guitar? apart from the odd time signatures, it doesn't seem all that complicated.

>>71518388
Is this a meme?

>>71518546
Not in any way.

Listen
@2:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ppDVHkQcs

@0:27 & 1:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C0BXd59m0

>>71518571
the odd thing about the ironic hate of dad rock and blooz is that it attracts idiot kids who think we're being serious

>>71518448
Alright thanks. Anyway to stop it from getting like that

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Vibrato god coming through, and equipped with just his pinky.

>>71518709
>nigger
>god
lel

>>71518571
That's one average vibrato, doesn't even begin to compare to Clapton or the old blues masters

>>71518722
the best guitarist there was or ever will be was black friend

>>71518030
don't be dumb and proud it doesnt work that way

>>71516897
>How does that hagstrom play bro? Would you recommend it for someone looking for a good hollowbody that doesn't really want to spend an arm and a leg on one?
Yes
It's an incredible guitar, especially for the price

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Ausfag here. Going to order one of these on monday. $649.

>>71515649
Kurt Cobain, I know he is a mediocre guitarist but I heard when people James with him they had a bad ass time

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Do you think Ian Thornley is a talented musician?

>>71519176
Sounds horrible

>loud power chords
>fast and out of time
>no foundation at all

Jamming with Pedo Pete would be cool I think

>>71519159

Those sell for $399 on reverb. You getting hosed if you pay that much.

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received it yestrday,
my first bass,
I'm so happy, and my fingers AREN'T.

Hope this will pass soon. Just learnt my first song too : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNXhmcnIzzs killer bass line :)

tap your finger tips everywhere when you're not playing, this will help

>>71519159
https://reverb.com/item/4260308-esp-ltd-ec-256-fm-bsb-trans-brown-sunburst-flame-top-electric-guitar-2017

here u go straya u owe me 200 dollars

>>71519448
looks like a twelve years old designed it...

Why is Joe Satriani's Surfing With the Alien still good after all this time?

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>>71519431
>>71519521
You dumbass yanks

>>71519448
that short scale?

>>71519752
oh i'm sorry, I didn't factor that in, but on a side note the kangaroo-buck is plummeting i did not expect that

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kotzen deserves more respect on this board

>>71520140
>glam act guitarist
not really

>>71520171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I1FnNSbjN8

>>71515574

Its a peavey T series, if its a shortscale, its a t15, full scale is t60.

guitar is dead

>>71520627
Just like music

>>71520627
long live guitar

>>71520220
Never heard of this guy but he's not bad... no John Mayer though

https://webmshare.com/ZXM1A

>>71520715
Come rec your fav tracks /gg/

..pls

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someone please identify what django reinhardt song this is

>>71520895
chords match "minor swing"

don't know if that's correct since I've never heard him play it

Here is a potentially really stupid question - has anyone ever experimented with changing the material of a Strat pickguard, and what effect does it have on the tone?

The logic is that Teles have a distinctive twang because of the metal plate the bridge pickup is mounted to. Tried sticking a Tele pickup in the bridge of a Strat once and it didn't twang at all and sounded nothing like one. So surely, with the Strat pickups mounted to the pickguard, there is surely some sort of reasoning there for a tonal change? Anyone tried a metal one for example?

>>71521124
You are a serious cork-sniffer if you think a pickguard change affects tone in any noticeable form.

>>71521151
I know the tonewood thing is a meme, but like I said the metal bridge mounting on a tele gives a distinctive tone, does it work the same way on a strat?

I'm not talking molecularly different polymers, I mean plastic / wood / metal etc

>>71521175
That's not what gives the Tele its distinctive tone.

>>71521214
It makes a significant difference, tried a tele bridge pickup in my Strat and it had no twang at all. Sounded very different in my Telecaster

>>71515180
>>71515211
>>71515216
>>71515251
>>71515329
>>71515381


Kiddo, i once though jaguar were total shit but i got one and i kinda dig the scale and tonal options. The thing is, if you roll the volume up all the way up it does sounds like shit with a metallic shitty unusable for clean settings 'cling'. It is ok for aggressive overdrive/distorted tones. The secret is to roll off the volume a tiny bit (8.5-9 volume) and thats it, you get a teley bridge, bridge-neck sound and a straty neck sound. Then the other circuit is pretty good for jazzy stuff. Also, use strings at least gauge 11 for avoiding shit. Been said all that, strats, jazzmasters and teles are still superior.

>>71521214
>Metal plate surrounding a magnet
>Not changing the magnetic field

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>>71521214
>just the pickups bro
>nothing else effects tone
Ok reddit

I want to try out ECDGAD tuning but I don't have any replacement strings and that A>C is risky. LIfe is a series of hells.

>>71515138
You're paying half the price for that signature on the headstock

>>71514939
how about duane allman? all of his slide stuff is in open E

>>71517359
if you're into that allmans sound at all try out ain't wastin' time no more or stand back; the first song is in standard tuning (dickey doing his best duane impression), and the second song is in open E but all the blocking is easy compared to some of duane's more complex slide parts.

and always always always play slide with your fingers instead of a pick, it will sound like shit if you dont

>>71520731
>john mayer as parameter of good
lol

>>71522075
I will look into them, thanks. haven't experimented with different tunings yet although I know that is to come. This is as far as I have gotten, can play it quite comfortably and not sound horribly out of tune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaDXd_5PR-s

Trying to use my fingers but it is pretty hard to get a good sound at the moment, always sounds really weak and gutless

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which one should I buy?

>>71522164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn1zV0ppJDo

Why does /mu/ hate him so much? How many players can take the epitome of rock guitar and actually do it justice?

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Since people here are so quick to criticize the tried and true guitars that've been mainstream for decades such as the Gibson Les Paul and Fender Stratocaster, which guitars does /gg/ like that aren't "meme guitars", overrated/overpriced and won't break the bank?

Guitar order of importance:

1. Look
2. Feel
3. Sound

im not wrong

>>71517838
2nd

>my guitar skills are a hodgepodge of random shit I've learned over the years and am not even sure where to begin learning

The practice routine seems like a foreign language to me, where should I go to start

>>71522430
I got a Seagull acoustic a couple years ago that I love. Will always shill Seagull

>>71522243
firebird thing

>>71522243
SG thing

>>71522243
Les pauls are not unique, but jacksons are edgy. Go for the second one down.

>>71518430
toothbrush and rubbing alcohol

don't pay $$$ for lemon oil, that shit does nothing

get a bottle of linseed oil and it'll last forever, couple of drops, wipe on, rub in, wipe off. don't drown it in oil either, you only need a couple of drops to spread over the surface.,

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let's post legendary instruments
>1965 Gibson SG 'Monkey', heavily customized by British guitar builder John Birch. The first five Black Sabbath albums were recorded with this guitar. “Paranoid”, “War Pigs”, “Iron Man”, “Sabbath Bloody Sabbath”, “Symptom of the Universe” – this guitar did it all.

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>>71522624
Didn't Iommi use a Strat for the first half of the first record until one of the pickups fucked up then switched to the SG? Either way, that SG is a piece of history

Pic related is Nancy, the 1953 Telecaster that Roy Buchanan used almost exclusively

>>71522243
kelly
my first guitar was a cheap one, decent shit

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Does anyone know anything about Stellar guitars?

There is one at a local salvation army for $250 (and the lady behind the counter implied that it might drop in price soon), but I can't really find out much about the company. I read somewhere that they were lawsuit era LP style guitars made in Japan, but other sites I looked claim that they were available until very recently & made in Korea.

Pic related is what it looks like. It is kinda ugly I know, but it is still better looking than my current electric guitar, which is a first act that I have had since I was 10.

>>71522855
lost

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>no tracking updates in 3 days

>>71522870
>buying international

what guitar rig can make me sound like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc1AiLdlVNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai8lIwlSvRc

>>71522436
exactly wrong

>>71522938
he's not wrong

>>71522953
>sound least important

/gg/ in a nutshell

>>71522986
you understand nothing about tone, but thats ok, remain ignorant.

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>>71522890

>>71521923
I understand entirely, I was just trying to meme cuz the thread was slow, but oh boy did it blow up lol.

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>>71522624

Peter Green and Gary Moore's guitar. Now in the possession of Kirk Hammet.

>>71522336
don't bother, anyone who can't appreciate John Mayer's ability is either a troll or very uniformed. Saw him play with the remaining members of the dead this year, I was taken back, great performance.

>>71523052
>If people don't like what I like they are either a troll or very uniformed

grow up.

>>71522938
>>71522953
>>71522986
>>71522999


wait let me try to figure this out, wouldnt it be feel, look and then sound?

>>71523040
>Now in the possession of Kirk Hammet.
Fuck me is it really?

I have nothing against commercial music that lots of people like, but surely such an iconic instrument could go to someone good.

>>71523052
Watched a couple of his other covers in the suggested videos, he's an amazing guitarist as good as anyone. The hatred is absurd particularly from a userbase of fucking guitar players.

>>71516909
>it sounds like im in the deserts of egypt in 2000bc
Then you're actually playing in Phrygian Dominant ya dingus

>>71523090
If a guitar doesn't look right to you, nothing will work. You wont be inspired to play a guitar that makes you look bad, thus looks are most important.

>>71522336
No idea. But then this is the same board that worships Death Grips and Grimes.

He is a bit of a cunt and some of his songs are very pop orientated but a lot of it is seriously good blues music and he is undeniably an excellent guitar player. Just watch the "where the light is" concert

>>71523086
Name five contemporary guitarists that are better than john mayer. If you want to have a discussion I'm down, I'd love to here your thoughts.

I assume you say Derreck Trucks so lets here 4 more.

>>71523086
Forget about the song. His ability and technique is objective, not subjective.

You're clearly the one who needs to grow up.

>>71518671
Wash your hands before you play and wipe the fretboard down regularly

>>71523111
Ok got it, I agree with that, because sound is dependant on look and feel, it is the least important.

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>>71523106
its the same scale shape
just the root notes change

inb4 music theoryshitting

>>71523111
What if you're blind?

>>71523162
True. Harmonic minor doesn't sound Egyptian at all, it sounds more like cheesy classical. Phrygian Dominant is the Egyptian sounding mode

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>>71522624
Ace Frehley's 1973 Tobacco Burst Les Paul Deluxe. This guitar did the first four KISS albums entirely, and appeared on the next five albums with Ace as well as 1996's Psycho Circus.

>>71523094

It cost him over a million so at least he was keen to have it. There aren't that many great guitarists with that kind of pocket money I guess.

>>71523153
Name five contemporary guitarists that are better than john mayer. If you want to have a discussion I'm down, I'd love to here your thoughts.

>>71523194
they sound the same because they are literally the same notes in the same position

>>71523223
>they sound the same
Dummy detected
Does Major sound the same as Minor? What about Dorian or Lydian?

>>71523234
yes they are all the same thing
everything on guitar is the same thing

>>71523202
I'm not that guy but Guthrie Govan, Rick Graham, Cirro Manna, Richie Allan, and Martin Miller.

>>71523259
Come on, you could have made this argument a little more fun at least. You need to strengthen your bait

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>>71523234
>Does Major sound the same as Minor?

Is this a serious question

>>71523288
Oh, and Tom Quayle.

>>71523290
>this argument

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>>71523301
Rhetorical

All scale shapes are the same thing, just the context over which you play them changes. If you retards can't see this then god help you. Enjoy making music more difficult than it needs to be.

>>71516909
explain?

>>71523194
This is some pretty weak bait dude.

>>71523344
Wrong.

>>71523344
how so?

>>71523370
Not even bait. Refute it if you even can.

>>71523385
I just played both and they are the same thing. Refuted.

>>71523398
T. dummy who doesn't understand modes

This is basically the same thing as saying A minor and C major are the same thing.

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>>71523383
all 4 of these are the same notes in the same position. Just the way you use them changes based on the music you're playing over.
Theoryshitters will keep shitting though.

>want to play pet sounds
>its keyboard dominated and not really guitary
:(

>>71523425
I'm just trying to learn more music theory. Thanks breh

>>71523410
>A minor and C major are the same thing

Yes they are the same thing, now you're getting it. I know its hard to understand but have patience.

>>71523455
Same notes, not the same thing. Try to learn about relativity and context dude, it'll make you a better player

Should tapping sound as loud and clear as playing picked if you're doing it right? Or is it pretty normal to apply compression specifically to tapping parts to make up for the change in volume?

I'm talking about tapping mostly clean or with very minimal overdrive (in the style of Minus The Bear / TTNG / insert math-rock band here)

>>71523288

Ok I believe these guys are better technically, and to be fair I haven't heard of any of them. So it is my understanding that these guys mostly just give lessons and they are considered the best because of their ability and that's why people want to be instructed from the best.

>>71523484
Don't try to distinguish between major and minor. The notes are the same. Just work on listening and feeling. it'll make you a better player.

>>71523580
>don't try to distinguish the differences, just focus on the differences
Lmao okay dude

After learning scales and chords, where do I go/ what do I learn?

should I make a thread we're at 320

>>71523622
Arpeggios.

>>71523622
you start making music idiot

>>71523640
phrase it

>>71523640
made one

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>>71517626
Fingerpicking a Dreadnought with 80/20 bronze

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>>71517925
>HSH

>>71523111
>guitar doesn't look right to you, nothing will work

That is fucking retarded. If you care more what you look like while playing anyways you don't care about the music really.

>>71523966
I disagreed but did not want to argue, I think he meant more like forming a bond with the instrument beyond the face value aesthetic, like "look right" like I can see myself playing this forever blah blah. definitely don't mean it like "this will help me look sick"

>>71523918
Literally nothing wrong with HSH