/GG/ - Guitar and Bass General

>>71469646
these look so fucking comfy

Can someone recommend some good audio interfaces that aren't ridiculously expensive for home recording?

>>71469684
Not as good as a Les paul

friendly reminder that bump limit is 310 posts

>>71469646
A link to the old thread should be included it the OP, you stupid shit. Nothing else you post in the OP matters.

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>>71453595
>>71453595

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I want her so bad.
What if someone buys it while I'm saving up the money?

>>71469797
order one online...

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Pic relateds are going to be 1250

Worth over an actual fender?

>>71469876
But I want THAT ONE.

>>71469696
Focusrite scarlet 2i2 is good. You can get them for £120 here in the UK. There are some good DAW bundles around as well, buy the software, almost get the hardware for free. Steinberg used to do some good cubase bundles.

>>71469696
Define good. I have a Behringer Guitar Link and a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4, both do the job well. And by job I mean playing with Guitar Rig

tfw you own two excellent amps but they're way too loud but you don't want to sell either of them to get a smaller, more usable amp

kill me

>>71469981
move or find somewhere you can store them to go practice later

When you buy strings for a fanned fret guitar, do you have to buy them all separately to get the gauges right for the string length you have? or do they have matched sets for guitars like these?

I would think using standard gauge strings would sound and feel sloppy, and sort of detract from some of the appeal of fanned frets in the first place.
piano and harp strings are purchased in individually for this reason. piano strings actually come on a spool and you make them to length yourself, which I always wanted in guitar strings. Its kind of fun you get to unwind the ends around the tuning peg yourself and can rewind them around the headstock portion of the string and not have a cut off loose end. I'm sort of a traditionalist though

>>71470010
I actually live somewhere where I can kinda crank them, but I don't want to. I don't like to play loud and recording is impossible on low volume with these amps

>>71469981
>>71470037
>I bought a Ferrari to go grocery shopping
>I don't like to drive very fast
idiot

>>71470037
then you should sell them
if you don't like to play loud and don't use them for this reason, even when noise isn't an issue, then you should sell them

learn to record with amps like the one you practice with, or learn to do it without an amp at all

>>71470070
yeah, i wasn't very smart when i bought one of these 10 years ago
the other i'll take responsibility for because I like it

>>71470081
one's a half stack, so I'm considering selling the cab (at the minimum, might just sell the head too, idk) to buy a used princeton or champ or something

>>71470110
imho there is no reason to have more than one amp unless you're gigging two different sets, like you do jazz gigs mon-wed and metal gigs on the weekend.

otherwise just learn to love what you have, and supplement with effects gadgets if you really feel the need. there is an infinite amount of pleasure to be derived from even an acoustic guitar alone, you don't need to keep adding and adding just to tweak it here and there. master what you have

>>71469981
Get a hot plate.

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Haven't been playing guitar for too long but I got a strat recently and after going to change the pickguard, my bridge pickup became unsoldered(?) from the pot and the 5 way switch. I wanna install it again but I have no clue what the fuck this string setup is in here. Should I just bring this in and pay for the repair or try it myself?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9tq0fXOnyg

>played cello in school
>dabble with family mandolin occasionally
>tune guitar in cgdaaa sometimes with good results
>this comes along

Would I be an idiot to get this over a 12-string? I don't even know how you would go about getting new strings for this.

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>>71470203
>comes in here and starts asking dumb questions

HOW BOUT A PUNCH IN THE TALLYWACKER DUMB BOY

>>71469696
i got an irig ua instead of a cheap travel amp, and it records pretty decent quality audio and can mimic several amps/cabs/peddles. not bad for a $60 piece of gear imo

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>>71470203
Can't tell what the fuck is going on from that picture, if you can solder yourself and can decipher wiring diagrams then nothing is stopping you from doing it yourself. If, however, you're unable to do either of those things then take it to the shop.
>>71470350
yui pls play nice

>>71470203
>string setup

huh? just resolder what came lose.

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>>71470315
this is pretty cool anon, thanks for posting at least
I was going to suggest against it but after establishing that mandocello is a legitimate member of the mandolin family, I think its kind of cool.

I don't ever see it fitting in with a bluegrass band but for a mandolin player I see the appeal, not many electric instruments designed to be tuned in fifths

not the cheapest strings in the world but definately available. there also seems to be nickel wound available

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reminder if you can't at least play this scale in Aminor/Cmajor just kill yourself now because you are shit at guitar.

>>71470026
bumping for an answer to this post

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>>71470570

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I always laugh when I see some dumb 19 year old buying a video game. It's like why, you dumb fuck? Why waste your time and money? You don't know video games are deader than horse shit? What the fuck do you think's going to happen? Why do you think everybody in their late 20s and early 30s stops playing games? Go take a look at the lineups of all the MLG tourneys these days. What's the average game at most of those bands? League of Legends. Why do you think that is? I'll tell you why: because being poor as shit is only fun when you're a stupid ass kid. Just as soon as your peer group moves on to adult pursuits you look fucking retarded being the "cool kid who plays vidya". Trust me, when all your family and friends have stable jobs, kids, and nice houses your "autistic poverty" playing twitch out of an old dilapidated rust covered laptop won't measure up anymore. It's like.. think about what your doing, you dumb little shit. What are you trying to achieve? Do you really think you'll be one of the lucky few who'll wins the lottery and has a successful career in MLG? I mean, really? Do you really think you're talented and smart enough to succeed in the YouTube industry? Are you fucking stupid?

And don't give me all that "I do it for myself" bullshit either. lol, no fuck you don't. You're doing it in the hopes that one day it'll garner you some peer recognition, you're hoping it'll help you climb up socially one day. You do it because you're a fucking loser who wants to desperately escape the societal pecking order you feel has marginalized you. Name a famous gamer who started off wealthy. Oh, you can't? That's who you think you are, loser. You want that same success and you know it. Only problem with your plan is noone cares because video games don't matter anymore

Go to school, get a real job, and stop wasting your time trying to score "cool points" with other impressionable moron kids like you. You ain't gonna make it, you fucking idiot

Get a fucking clue

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>>71470591
If my shit becomes a pasta on /v/ I'll never be able to leave.

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>>71470591

>>71470655
If your original pasta encourages fewer people take up this disgustingly overpopular and overused instrument, I'm all for it

>>71470591
>tfw 21 year old neet that only taught himself guitar because there are no good games out & i could no longer ignore my lack of productivity in my pit of crushing loneliness

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>>71470853
lol why?
I think it's great when people pick up the instrument realize how much commitment and discipline it takes and drop it and in the end can only envy and respect those who stick with it.

In other words the only way for other people to understand is for them to try something themselves and fail at it

>>71470997
>commitment and discipline
Fuck off with this. All the best players learned guitar because they literally had nothing else to do.

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>>71470853
I've been watching the desertification for a few years now, I just like to laugh.
>>71470997
Case in point.

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>>71471039
Gonna need to try harder than that if you wanna get a nibble out of me

>>71470178
There's just a lot of sentimental value tied to the amp i'm considering selling. I just don't think I can do it.

>>71470997
It only takes commitment and discipline if you want to really master it and get very good. It's not very difficult at all to get competent/intermediate at guitar, and in my experience most people are content to get to that level.

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>tfw no decent versatile multi-channel hi-gain amp under $1000
>tfw you will never be able to play prog-metal because you are poor
Das it mane

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>>71470026
What are "standard gauge strings"? This tells us nothing. There is no "standard". The only time you'd have to get crazy gauges is if you had a long scale length and/or an extended range guitar in some low tuning for the "djents" so your intonation wouldn't be ass and your strings buzzing all over the place.

Not to mention, you're asking this on /gg/. Ain't no one one here got any experience with anything but practice amps and Mexican fenders.

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>>71471063
Too late, you're already shellacked and mounted. Pic related
>(you)

>>71471113
just save up, fgt

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>>71469646
have my sights on either this or an Ibanez superstrat, both are similarly equiped, tremolos and 24 frets and are around 300-350 euros
which one should I go for? I feel like I might just buy one and then eventually the other one because I like both of them

>>71471106
That still doesn't make my point any less valid.
>Only takes commitment and discipline to master it
Subjective statement
It takes commitment to even buy the instrument, take the time to learn anything, and then practice it to the point where it actually resembles music.
There's a lot of value in effort.

>>71471113
check on the used market
there's some gems like the laney vh100r which usually go for 700-800

>>71471171
STOP

why on earth would you buy 2 shitty guitars when you can just buy one good one

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>>71471113

>>71471171
Strats are comfier and don't have the tendency to do a neck dive.
So get one of those.

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>>71471171
I'd stay away from the V shape man. Unless you're dead set on it, you'll probably regret it later on.

Since you said it's between this and an Ibanez RG, I'm going to assume you're not. I'd get a more traditional shape.

>>71471171
Why not just buy a spear because the only thing you're gonna use it for is to impale the wall when you give up learning to play

>>71471180
>laney vh100r
I will keep my eyes on that one anon. Thank you, kind anon. Have you had any experience with the used market? I am scared of buying something,and then for it to break after a month or two. Any tips on not getting scammed?

>>71471113
Play Progressive Black Metal.

>>71471195
Dude, I have had my eyes on Blackstar amps for a long time. The thing is that I have read about them not being reliable (made in china). Is this claim true? Because I had some serious gas on the amp on your picture, and the stage 60 one.

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>>71471176
>There's a lot of value in effort
lmao
>I did my best and my best was abject failure and this is how I rationalize all the time I wasted with nothing of value to show for my efforts

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>>71471113
>multi-channel
>hi-gain
those aren't thing you want anon.

On more serious note, the ONLY hi-gain amp I've owned that I even remotely liked the onboard gain was the ENGL Invader 100. For the time being, I would HIGHLY recommend the S&K VHD distortion for a high gain pedal.

>>71471243
That sounds really interesting. A progressive version of Burzum is something I would be willing to listen.

>>71471106
in my experience most people don't even know what competent/intermediate is

competent to me means you can play with other players and not look stupid. if you're playing with me and want to look competent you better be able to play in every key, and I'd say maybe 5-10% of self proclaimed competent guitar players can actually do that

I think most players never even tried it long enough to realize the level of commitment it takes to actually learn the instrument, not just memorize a few tabs to fake knowing your way around the instrument

>>71471303
>implying Ways of Yore isn't already a progressive version of Burzum

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>>71471290
lol I bet you didn't even read the conversation and are just trying to rustle some jimmies.

Shitpost moar and maybe you'll actually get good at it unlike your guitar skills

>>71471237
more recent tube amps like the laney aren't really tech that's just going to stop working all of a sudden, they're built like a tank usually and there's nothing really fragile about them other than the tubes
so make sure to test it in person and watch and listen for any defects like crackling, noise and microphonics that might indicate tube wear
so maybe factor in a set of replacement power tubes which is like $90 ish for most 100w amps

>>71471309
>in my experience
>competent to me means
>muh subjective definitions
lol

>>71471194
I'd much rather have 2 300-400 euro guitars than one 1000 euro guitar, you won't really find a terrible guitar these days, unless you're buying some weird ass branded guitar for less then 200 euros
it's much the same like cars, standards have risen so high that today you won't find a terrible car that's new

>>71471334
Alright, I have a really stupid question tho. Do you think I would still be able to play this 100W behemoth at my bedroom? I know I could get an attenuator, but damn those things are expensive. Anyways, thx for the suggestion anon, I will pull the trigger once I find that laney on sale.

>>71471301
>Owned

Why the hell did you get rid of it? I bet that shit was rad.

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>>71471322
fwiw, you're replying to Roman, and he is actually really bad at guitar. It's the fundamental insecurity from which all his shitposting stems. he is pretty good at shitposting though, and like I was saying earlier, if he gets fewer people to play guitar I'm all for it because too many people do it

>>71471322
>nuh uh!
>wasted time and energy with nothing to show for it is too valuable!
this is what you just said stupid

>>71471321
How can such a madman be so good at making music? His guitar playing is almost hypnotic.

>>71471386
I have a 50w head and it's way too loud
it's not like you can't turn it way down but then it starts to sound thin and weak so I prefer to just play with software at home and don't even keep the head here anymore

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>>71471405
>he is actually really bad at guitar
I'll have you know I've never even owned a guitar!

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>>71471405
You're expecting some shitstain board lurker to succeed in driving someone away from an instrument on 4chan?

The people who can stand to come here frequently and still attempt conversation aren't so weak to care about what someone else says to them from behind a computer

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>>71471462
What software do you reccomend me anon?

mfw I play a dozen different instruments but never even bothered learning guitar. Not once in my life have I even been in need of a guitar player, or even known somebody who is looking for a guitar player

almost all the desperate start up bands out there are lonely guitar players looking for friends

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>>71471476
Goddamn, I love me some newfriends.

>>71471493
Guitar is in a lot of music, wtf do you play even?

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>>71471493
>started playing guitar when I was a teenager
>seemed like a cool way to express yourself musically
>got really good
>considered accomplished even by professionals I sometimes associate with
>as I mature musically I realize writing guitar based music is rudimentary, simplistic and creatively limited compared to the infinite possibilities a laptop based DAW offers now
>as I mature musically I slowly realize how uninteresting most guitar based music actually is
>as I mature socially I come to realize most people have long since stopped caring about guitar based music too
>mfw guitar might as well be an accordion or a harpsichord now
>pic related: mfw I know in my heart I wasted my time on this instrument
>mfw I wish I could have all that time I wasted back
don't end up like me kids, save yourselves from my fate

>>71471470
rome you silly silly boy

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>>71471494
Well am I wrong?
Do you actually change what you do based on opinions and questionable information received from the anons here?

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>>71471386
>100W amp
>bedroom

Have fun with your ruptured eardrums.

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>>71471544
When I do get a full time job I'm gonna buy a Klon and post a video of me destroying it on YouTube.

>>71470918
>tfw we are the same person

>>71471489
I really like s-gear2
no total overkill with millions of effects and stomps, it focuses on a small lineup of really detailed and solid amps instead
still customizable enough with custom speaker IRs, great redwirez IRs are stock
and it just sounds and feels better than anything else I tried

>>71471571
My buddy has a tube amp meant for large stadium gigs that he plays in his bedroom. he uses a volume pedal though.

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What makes one amp handle distortion better than another amp?

Why are some amps good for cleans and others good for distortion? Like the actual mechanics of it.

>>71471571
I've got a 110W and I'm fine
cant move it past 2 though

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Is he the hero we deserve?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmuXWfizwtY

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>>71471582
You would put yourself in the hole $2K for someone elses entertainment?

>>71471507
piano, organ, banjo, all the brass instruments, drumset, fiddle, mandolin, keyboard percussion, and a few others it doesn't even matter

the point is that guitar players are literally a diamondozen. most of the groups I've played with were so saturated with guitarists that they had to take turns playing songs.

If I went to a large crowd of people and asked who played a musical instrument, the vast majority of hands raised would be guitarists, at least in the US

>>71471519
I consider myself lucky for having played piano first. because as I've developed and come to many of the same conclusions about piano, at least I can work a midi controller like a pro

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>>71471633
You mean my entertainment? Yes, of course I would.

My autism only thirsts for lulz.

>>71471643
I think the issue of saturation came from the fact that the guitarist was sensationalized with all the solo spotlight.

Bassists get shafted
and drum kits aswell as all the other instruments are pricey to get into where as the buy in for guitar is low asf

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>>71471624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mozD5JutXO4

>>71471758
we need to start generating a stereotype that the bass player gets the most pussy by far

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Oh shit, I didn't realize it's almost 6:30. My Mom will be home in a little while I gotta get off the computer.

I'll try to come back later tonight if I can. Bye.

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>>71471643
>Complaining about guitars
>In a guitar general

Anon, it's pretty sad you seek self validation and ego fellating on an anonymous image board.

What kind of response are you looking for? If you're disinterested in the instrument, why are you shit posting here?

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>>71471796
Here's a pic of my bass player.

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>>71469646
I really want to buy a Fender Jaguar but I'm torn between a classic model and the HH model. I know humbuckers are kind of odd for a Jag but apparently it's got switches you can roll back to get the single coil tone (sort of a coil tap thing i guess) But I'm worried that the single coil sound might not sound as good as a genuine single coil Jag would.

What would you suggest?

>>71471643
>the point is that guitar players are literally a diamondozen
>diamondozen

You're definitely stupid enough to be a guitarist

>>71471871
If it doesn't matter that much to you then just get it. I have a MIJ Jaguar but I can't really speak to how well the pickup selection works/sounds on the HH models.

>>71470551
Do people really learn these fingerings? I pretty much 3-note-per-string everything.

I guess these'd be useful for some phrasing and fretboard navigation type things.

>>71471643
Wtf I hate guitar now

>>71471871
>i really want to buy a meme
>one meme is slightly different than the other meme
>plz help

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>>71471396
I owned it for literally less than 24 hours. I bought a Sunn 300T for $100, replaced a couple components and retubed it, then traded it for the ENGL. The ONLY reason I even traded for the ENGL was to trade it for another Matamp. I will admit though, it really had me considering keeping it though. I just like clean amps better.

>>71471871
>>71471943
Also I would actually suggest a Jazzmaster over a Jaguar to you. Much better variation in sound on those pickups.

>>71471871
Depends if you're just playing for you then just pick whatever fits what you like.

Kind of ends there because no one who plays for money would be dumb enough to ask a serious question like that here.

Don't buy a jag in the first place is my advice

>>71471871
I had the HH model, it was nice but god damn those things get thrown out of whack so fast. If you're half decent at setting up guitars it shouldn't be a big deal. The humbuckers aren't too hot if that's what you're worried about.

>>71471871
In my experience coil tap/split sounds are just as good as actual single coil sounds... becaue they essentially are the real thing. I know there's technically some difference but it would only be noticeable if you compared side by side two identical guitars, one with a humbucker coil tap and another with single coils.

That being said I'm sure there's youtube videos you can watch to get an idea of the tone for each. If you're lucky someone might compare a classic Jag to the HH.

>>71471950
Fuck yes. Get the positions down for the main scales and the neck opens up. Lets you shift keys easier as well (modulate)

>>71472034
>those things get thrown out of whack so fast
Could you elaborate please? Also, how does the coil tap or whatever it's called work on the HH? Can it get a good single coil tone?

>>71471643
This. I play keys in an open jam group and it usually ends up being myself, a bassist, and 5 or more guitar players. One of them usually ends up playing slide to add a bit of variety. Guitar is absolutely the worst instrument to learn if you ever want to play outside your bedroom.

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I do like my Jaguar but I've been underwhelmed by it. I'll likely be replacing it soon.

Sell everything you own to satan and ride the rails

>>71472031
>Don't buy a jag in the first place is my advice

Why do you say that? Are you just not a fan or do you think there's a reason I'll end up regretting it?

>>71472062
>I play keys
>Shit posting in a guitar thread
Aren't you late for your driving infractions hearing jamal?

>>71472003
You're telling me the Jaguar has all those switches and knobs and yet the Jazzmaster is still the more versatile guitar?

>>71472062
>get good at guitar
>learn bass in 20mins
>profit?????

>>71472116
Switches and knobs? Is this a troll post? Fender got rid of those on the new models anyway. The Jaguar doesn't even have a full scale neck.

The pickups are only good at playing bright twangy sounds. No breadth at all.

>>71472116
they're all just there to make it sound like shit

>>71472122
Being a competent bass player in a cover band has got to be in the top 5 easiest jobs ever... of anything. You just learn to play the root notes to like 100 simple songs. Nobody gives a fuck about you and nobody will notice if/when you fuck up, not even your own band. And then at the end of the night you'll walk away with just as much money as all the real musicians who actually had to work hard to impress people and make sure they didn't fuck up.

The only and I mean ONLY reason to get a Jaguar over a Jazzmaster is that it looks prettier. But is that a real reason to begin with?

>>71472078
Personally I do extensive research on an instrument before getting it.

Just seems like some money grab instrument to reel in more profit from people who don't do research.

I have no experience with the instrument so take what I say with salt.
Just look at what artists inspire you or w.e do you see any of them using one extensively?

The ones I like generally use pretty simple instruments that lie on the high end

>>71472152
>Switches and knobs? Is this a troll post?

On a Fender Jaguar? Yes. Are you getting the Jazzmaster and Jaguar confused?

>>71472091
Oh don't worry, I can play guitar too. I appreciate the hood cred but piano is a pretty white instrument too senpai

>>71472194
;_;

>Tfw no mpc touch

>>71472180
Imagine being the bass player in a band like Weezer or Foo Fighters. Those fucks get to live the dream of every young musician night after night, playing to arenas of dedicated fans. And there's no fucking pressure involved, nobody knows who they are and you can't really hear them anyway. They get to just spend the whole show soaking up the spectacle of it all.

>>71472180
People are much more likely to notice if the bassist fucks up. As a bass player you don't have to do anything complicated, but you do have to get it right. Most of the shows I go to, the guitarists fuck up all the time and no one can tell.

Give me the redpill on small tube amps.

Is the Super Champ X2 the best?
Blues Jr?
Hot Rod?
Princeton?
Marshall?

>>71472194
>Just look at what artists inspire you or w.e do you see any of them using one extensively?

Well yeah, I like a wide variety of music and wanted to get a guitar that would be good for playing more Alternative/Indie stuff. I also like Shoegaze so I figured a Jaguar would cover all of that pretty well.

>>71472266
MPC + Melodics software = Guitar hero but for jungle

>>71472285
One would hope, spinnscot is the only one putting out jungle for melodics I'm aware of

>>71471871
Unless you are playing punk or metal just get the single coil.

The humbuckers are thick but to me they all sound like low end trash pickups you find on every single asian guitar.

The single coils are really much more interesting for playing anything that isn't high gain.

>>71472265
Really? I mean it obviously depends on the type of band but that's not my experience at all. I've seen numerous local bands (both original and cover bands) where the bass player was clearly only playing root notes and you could hardly hear him.

The guitarist fucking up is easily more obvious, but sure a lot of non-musicians would be more likely to not notice. But I can't imagine your average music listener noticing a bass player fuck up over a guitarist fuck up.

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>>71472266
Pic related or one of the blackstars would be my choice

>>71472301
>>71472285
idk what that even means

>>71472180
I import my bassists from Bangladesh and make em double as a roady

>>71472331
>7 watts
>15 watts

What is even the point?

>>71472346
I get mine from Somalia, and they double up as my pedal board

>>71472342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eRRab36XLI

>>71472354
6dB less
15 watt can be a lot with an efficient speaker, so if you want to really distort that shit on bedroom level you need to drop the power

>>71472354
I know it's hard to believe but you don't actually need a full stack when you play in your bedroom.

>>71472316
So you thought it was a good idea to tell him go for single coil because you don't like humbuckers period while he is considering humbuckers?

Fundamentally different tastes means your opinion is absolutely useless

>>71472395
This.

People need to stop trying to sell the meme that you need huge wattage for playing in a bedroom.

It's not like you're going to max the settings ever so that makes it come up a waste of money and resources

>>71472395
Your goal should be to get out of the bedroom though. Obviously you don't need a fucking 100 watt amp and a cab but at least get something that's at least 30 watts so if the opportunity to go out and jam or play an open mic somewhere arises you won't get fucking laughed at.

>>71472354
Perceived sound doesn't correlate well with watts. Those things will drive a 4x12, and as they run hot, the sound is amazing. You need more, for a big room, mic it through the PA.

The sound
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6_VfqiPeTIU

>>71472376
Kek

>>71472316
It's not so much a humbucker vs. single coil dilemma for me. It's more a question of if the HH coil tap sound is good compared to a genuine single coil sound.

If it is then I would obviously go with the HH because it would be more diverse. But if it sounds like shit then I would just go with a regular Jaguar.

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>>71472451
>Pushing my ideals on someone else
Stop right there.
Everyone plays for a different reason so don't go telling him what his goals should be

>>71472451
15 watts is plenty for playing out though. I know your brain is struggling to accept this because you'll instantly regret spending 2 grand on that 100 watt head when you could have bought something 1/3 as cheap that's probably better.

>>71472354
Tube amps aren't solid state amps.

They are designed to sound good at a certain volume.

If you buy a Fender Twin Reverb you basically have to play it in a large venue volume to hear the sound it was designed to create. At low volumes it sounds like muddy. When you turn the tube amp up past its sweet spot in volume the sound breaks up and you get that really sweet distortion.

If you have a 7 watt amp and you turn it up all the way you can get a killer distortion at low volume.

If you have a 85 watt amp you have to turn up loud enough that a whole stadium can hear it in order to get that same tone.

However, fender makes the Princeton which is kind of the 15w version of the blackface Twin Reverb sound. Its good for low volume and recording but not for playing shows.

MY LIFE STYLE

>>71472510
>Pushing my ideals on someone else
That's called advice you numbskull. He doesn't have to accept it. But he should know that most musicians would judge him for showing up to jam with a 15 watt amp. It would be a let down.

>>71472266
JetCity Custom 22

2 channels clean and dirty, 22 watts, a lot of other goodies

>>71472394
>>71472395
>>71472453
>>71472533
>>71472510
>>71472528
stop responding to roman

>going to "jam" with some guys i met up
>setting up our equipment
>set up my orange head on with 4x12
>all the guys stop in shock
>the bassist walks over and demands to know what wattage im using
>its 15 i tell him
>sorry youre not allowed to play with us
>back up and go home

what should i do now?

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>>71472552
How does that equate to advice?
Youd call someone trying to shill their religion to you advice?

or someone telling you how to live your life?

What kind of restrained life have you had if that's your mindset

>>71472643
What kind of restrained life have you had to not know what advice means?

>>71472640
Buy a Marshall stack obviously

>>71472640
>what should i do now?
stop to shitpost maybe

>>71472552
Till he plugs the fucker into a 412, hits one power chord and blows the drummer a new asshole

Let's hear an off the cuff improv

Backing: https://clyp.it/tvlhidtn

My shitty improv: https://clyp.it/kenbauu0

>>71472752
invest in a tuner, m8

>>71472408
No I think its a good idea for him to go single coils because they are give out the classic sound of the guitar where humbuckers on the guitar really just sound like humbuckers on any other guitar.

If you want a jag for its sound the humbuckers ruin it. If you want a jag for its looks but don't like its somewhat thin sound put humbuckers on it.

I just think if you want a humbucker guitar get a gibson and get the thick sound you want unless you enjoy the aesthetic of the jag.

>>71472495
The Jaguar Fender currently sells doesn't have coil splitting, which is just using one of the two magnet coils in the humbucker.

it has Coil tapping dials that let you turn down the output of each humbucker. It lets you go from Nirvana high output guitar sound to more of a classic ES-335 low output humbucker sound but you won't get a single coil out of that guitar.

Its a cool feature but you should make sure you are ok wiht the short scale before you commit.

>>71471796
God Pete you are fucking annoying

>>71472708
Pussy, not getting a blackstar s1 200w stack. You'd be the most popular guy at the jam...

>>71472799
you understand that pete crazyaga and roman are all the same person right?

>>71472802
if i show up with a full stack next time and play it so loud that i completely overpower everyone else will they like me?

I want to learn to play math rock kind of stuff. Where do I start?

>>71472789
>it has Coil tapping dials that let you turn down the output of each humbucker. It lets you go from Nirvana high output guitar sound to more of a classic ES-335 low output humbucker sound but you won't get a single coil out of that guitar.

This is the info I was looking for, thank you. Kind of disappointing as a few youtube videos on the HH implied it could get a genuine single coil sound. I wish a local music store had one I could try in person.

>>71472925
If their ears arent bleeding yet, keep turning it up. Its the only way to win friends, I've found. Oh and make sure your pedal board has lots of blinking leds on, always gets you invited back

>>71472752
>Backing:
Give DL

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>>71472059
So to begin, I am not good at setting up guitars. I can do plenty of electronics work, but I've never really had the knack to do proper setups, so I bring it to a friend of mine. My jag used to get through maybe 2 or 3 re-stringings before it was really in a state of shit playability and poor intonation. And before some cunt comes in here, yes, I can restring just fine. The stock bridges on them suck, and it's a pretty well known fact. I'm not saying that in a snobby way, it's only because I didn't buy into it and passed it off as 4chan being a bunch of shitbags, but I quickly discovered the stock bridge does indeed suck.

As far as the coil split goes, it's pretty subtle unless you've got real crazy ears. It doesn't just magically get perfect single coil tone with a clean signal, but you can definitely notice a chance once you've got it run into some different types of dirt. I used to just set it and forget it, I don't need another thing to twiddle with in the middle of rehearsal.

All in all, I do not think you'll be wowed by any modern production classic player Jaguar. However, every guitar center on the planet has one so it's worth trying out. I have a few friends who swear by theirs.


Also, EGC neck will be going on this REAL SOON. I cannot contain myself.

>>71472640
and why did they tell you to go exactly?

>>71472987
Same way you learn any other genre:
1. Learn a ton of math rock songs and riffs
2. Get used to the style
3. Start emulating it on your own
4. Develop your influences into your own style if you're good

>>71472640
this story is going to be even funnier when OP mentions they're all using 1 watt $3000 booteek combos

>>71473148
like the other poster said, the musicians judged me and laughed because my amp was 15 watts. we were playing at the drummers parents garage but i guess it just wasnt acceptable. im in the process of ordering a full stack right now.

>>71473133
>rotated
I should just kill myself shouldn't I.

>>71473133
>EGC neck
>hipster garbage fart stack
>jaguar
oh boy you're one of "those" guys

>>71473188
but why wouldnt you just buy two at half the price of a full stack and have TWO mini stacks... thats twice the amp my dude

>>71473210
I just want to be Steve Albini

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Guys, what has anyone had any experience with Jet City Amps? I am considering to buy a Jet City 50h, or the Amelia. However, the price point scares me. How is such a well received amp so cheap? The reviews so far have been really positive, but I am still skeptical about it. So, thoughts?

Someone post music being done only with the major scale

>>71473228
but my 15 watt head is on a 4x12. the problem everyone has is the 15 watts. it was at a perfect volume for us but since im a guitarist i need a big 100 watt head.

>>71473248
I mixed a band for 6 weeks where one of the guitar players had one of those and it was total trash

>>71471796
No one would ever believe it...

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can't play bass for shit but gonna do a live show in a couple of months so i need a pretty bass to hide how shitty of a player i am

post your favourite bass guitar

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>>71471982

I have a cheap short scale Jaguar Bass and I'm planning on putting flats on it

have I memed myself out of the space time continuum yet?

>>71473248
I mixed a band for 6 weeks where one of the guitar players had one of those and it was totally awesome.

>>71473228
honestly man, from somebody that owns a pile of 4x12s, you dont need a full stack to rehearse. I run a 1x12 with a EVM 12L and a sunn concert bass for rehearsal and it's plenty (for guitar). Efficient speakers and a powerful head can save you a lot of hassle. Unless you just need doom cred then just buy a bunch of peaveys because thats the new thing

>>71473359
Mate I wouldn't have anywhere to play a full stack I own a superchamp x2, I'm just telling him, he can buy more micro terrors until he has accumulated a total of 100w, then he's in the cool kids club

>>71473348
>bass
>couple of months
Cmon mate you could be a virtuoso by then. Maybe even get some of the guitarists sloppy seconds...

>>71473393
Responded to the wrong guy, oops. I did a 2 head setup into a 4x12 with stereo inputs. Sounded cool, but not really necessary. Plus, phased issues and all that.

>>71473313
>>71473354
Damn, it was so trash that you had to post this twice? I better stay way from this.

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>>71473231
>paying money because you want to desperately join the hipsterati aluminerd's dork cult
you tryhard dweebs valuing aesthetics over functionality or playability are a dime a dozen on instagram. I'd be jealous if any of it came with some decent songs and you didn't all look like bad numale caricatures

>>71471834
its the only regularly occurring musical instrument thread on 4chan

>>71473104
I ripped it from this:

https://youtu.be/JLtwnGYgAkI

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Should I cancel my lessons. Feel like I don't benefit from them any more

>>71473539
Sounds like it's time to yeah.

>>71473478
what's bothering you anon

who hurt you?

>>71473478
Show me where the bad man touched you, anon

>>71473563
truth hurts I guess

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>>71473478
what do you mean

>>71470026
>>71470570
Just going for comfort is best way to go, since fanned guitars will usually have separate bridge pieces for each string, so you don't really need to worry about any intonation issues. The best general rule is to go for a set where the tension of the highest string feels good, the difference in tension on the low strings won't be an issue in 90% of string sets, bear in mind that fanned scales can actually lend themselves to better intonation and more balanced tension than a standard scaled guitar anyway.

In terms of playing it it really doesn't feel all that different, the only sets I wouldn't bother with are those "Skinny top / heavy bottoms" ones, since the scale will help compensate that on a standard set.

That said I would recommend that if it's for an extended range guitar you go for a 6 string set you like and purchase the 7th, 8th, 9th etc as singles, I personally use the D'Addario Jazz light wound third set (.012-.052) with a .064 and an .080 bought separately.
I find that this works the best for the tuning I use while still having the option to tune up to standard (albeit with a slightly tense G).

If you're just playing in standard or half a step down something like a .010-.046 might be more to your taste, but it's all subjective, I prefer my strings to be pretty tight whereas you might prefer a looser feel for strumming chords or maybe you like the slight pitch bend you get when hitting a string hard.
But like I said, any "normal" 6 string set, as long as the highest string feels good, will be comfortable and will sound great, it's all up to your preference at the end of it.

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(squeakety squeakety squeakety)

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>>71473480
What's your point? If you want to talk about other instruments and shit post make another all encompassing instrument general or something.

>>71473754
dem riffs tho

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Should I do it?

Anybody have experience with Dimarzio PAFs? They seem to be fairly low output but I'm running through a 6505 so I thought that would help add more clarity. The EMG's I have now are super shrill and muddy.

>>71473893
I have the Dimarzio Virtual PAFs in my musicman. They are a little higher power then the normal PAF pros. They take distortion really well and still sound bold and really clear.

>>71473850
>jum
no get a better high end model

>>71473893
They're pretty nice sounding, the cleans especially I really like, super clear sounding without too much quacky-ness, distorted they have really good not definition, although can sometimes sound a bit boxy, but with the right eq it usually isn't too hard to fix.

They're great for anything clean through to hard rock and classic metal sounds, wouldn't be my first choice for anything super heavy but they're a really strong all rounder.

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>>71473850
not unless youre getting a True Temperment™ neck to go along with it

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>>71472752
https://clyp.it/kppbadbg

>>71474089
Should have noted the ones I've used are the Anniversary editions, haven't tried the PAF Masters or the PAF Joes, so not sure what differences they have

>>71472064
probably because you're playing through a frontman you pleb

>>71473850
Just get an RG. Better trem system and no meme fretboard or grip.

what should you do if the only guitar store in town marks up their prices? I bought Ernie ball hybrid slinkys and a dunlop string winder for 12 dollars total and I'm pretty sure the guy fucked me

>>71474537
throw a brick through his window

>>71474537
slurp up the man-juice and say thank you sir

>>71474537
dont go back

>>71474104
At first I thought this was a joke... but now I want one.. Why is this not more widely adopted? Just a bitch to refret?

>The way the guy throws out artificial harmonics in the video like its not shit...

>>71474537
Molotov Cocktail

>>71474537
fuck his wife

>>71474537
Time to start ordering online... strings should only be like $5 for basic ones. Ernie Ball slinkys are definitely basic

>>71474134
Nice

>>71474567
>>71474571
>>71474581
>>71474662
>>71474679
>>71474682
Uncreative.
>>71474537
Find the most expensive guitar in his shop and buy the same model from Musicians Friend and take it in the store and show it to him and ask what size strings it takes. Then don't buy any saying "Meh, too expensive, I can get them cheaper from Musicians Friend." and then walk out and return the guitar to MF and get your 30 day refund guarantee. He will never forget it.

>>71474725
fucking nu-male

>>71474725
Cuck.

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>>71474725
The cucks are taking over

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>>71474725
All that work for what is probably 4 dollars in over charge... You seem petty. The guy had to raise his prices. He didnt do anything personal.

/metal/ please leave

>>71474947
I didnt know my wife was on /gg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prBxPljqt0M

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>>71474537
>>71474682
>>71474725
Proof. He also sold me this $200 amp marked up but threw in a gig bag to butter me up

>>71475067
No one forced you to buy it why are you so salty about being a spineless cuck you could've said no..

>>71475067
>Ingrams
your a cuckyfornian what difference does it make

>>71475067
Calling Dave right now to chew him out on his prices.

>>71475067
He is about right for small store price. My local guitar center sells Ernies for $6. Most stores have to mark things up. Some are greedy. But for many its just cost of doing business. I know my light bill has been going up. Maybe his is too.

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>>71471950
>Do people really learn these fingerings?
How can you be this musically clueless
These are the shapes the notes make on the fretboard, they aren't "fingerings"

>I guess these'd be useful for some phrasing and fretboard navigation
this literally IS guitar
maybe this place is a lot more amateur than I thought

>>71475067
You spineless coward

if i were to put my guitar in a truck would something bad happen

>>71475234
what kind of truck?

>>71475251
chevy s10 xtreme

it's a bc rich

>>71475263
Idk why the fuck I bother but

...Does it have a case?

>>71475287
watch him say no

>>71475287
no

im thinking about wrapping it in paper towels

>>71475287
no, the truck doesn't have a case

>>71475234
instruments get stolen out of vehicles all the time watch out dude, would def. lock it in the cab. probably cover it or something

>>71475316
wrong

>>71470551
What is this scale called? Is this the major scale?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CrSdJPZLss [Embed]

what can i use to get the kind of tone the guy at 1:37 has?

>>71475316
Youre gonna need a truck case.

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>>71475381
>mfw i kept clicking on the second [Embed] and nothing was happening

>>71475355
you're probably trolling, but:

major and minor are the same scale, the name changes based on the root and the intervals following the root. that scale is A minor because the root is A, but change the root to C and its a c major, same notes same position.

>>71475403
I wasn't trolling

>>71475476
meant for >>71475426

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>>71475426
Well I thought i was starting to understand this but now not so much... How are major and minor the same fingerings at the same positions? If i pluck the root note harder to emphasize it, the scale sounds the same. Am i missing something? I must be..

>>71475381
a fretless bass

>>71475520
its called relative keys

every minor key has a corresponding major key and vice versa

E minor is the same as G major, A minor is the same as C major, F# minor is the same as A major etc

>>71475476
Are you me?

>>71475516
I don't know where irl ends and the memes begin anymore

Are Sweetwater's deals legit? If so I'm totally buying this $218 Jackson Dinky

>>71475539
This is new information. My music theory goes as deep as 5 videos I watched on youtube. I'm just now trying to get into scales. The whole mode thing is something i'm not touching yet. I barely seem to understand the difference between major/minor. This is probably retarded to ask but are relative keys related to that circle of fifths in any way?

>>71475608
daveconservatoire.org

>>71475608
IT IS THE CIRCLE OF FIFTHS YOU FILTHY WHORE

>>71475579
They're the best online store you could buy from desu. Their customer service guys are real good.

>>71475608
Ive tried teaching basic music theory here on many threads and i dont have the patience for it anymore dude, and the internet is FULL of resources spoon feeding you this stuff

>>71475627
>My music theory goes as deep as 5 videos I watched on youtube.
It didnt help that his whiteboard covered up half the circle of fifths poster... I figured if it was that important he would have moved the board...

>>71475643
>Ive tried teaching basic music theory here on many threads
kek what an idiot you are then

>>71475643
adding to what i just said here, this is the best resource hands down ive ever found on the net

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/

this site has EVERYTHING you will ever need if you know how to use it

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>>71475643
Oh i'm not asking for spoon feeding. You answered all 2 of my questions. Thank you.

>>71475684
Yeah well it usually end in music theory fags coming in and making things 10x more complicated by trying to count intervals string by string and learn scales that way which is ridiculous.

learn the shapes, start coming up with licks, you'll be having so much fun it wont be practice and you can fill in the technical stuff later

>>71469919
Fuck, I'm loving the reviews, look and sound of that Focusrite. What do you think of the Focusrite Solo? I shall only be recording on my own, and that means just my guitar. Will it be a step up from my Line 6 GX, which I'm not too happy with?

>>71475763
Can someone just explain a random songs main riff and how it relates to the shapes? Something like Sattelite by DMB or Even Flow or something. I try to learn the shapes and see how it relates to existing songs but I alwasys get stuck

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>>71475964
The first riff of the stairway to heaven solo takes place right in this shape exactly

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>>71476013
and the last part of the solo (album version) jimmy page plays in this shape (green)
all the famous solos you've heard are in these same old positions using the same old licks that black blues players were playing back in the 30's
im trying to illustrate that everything on guitar is essentially the same thing just moved around

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What does /gg/ think of Rob Chapman?

>>71473353
I have one too

>>71476387
Isnt that the youtube british guy? I never thought of him to be honest.

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Who is your favorite rhythm player?

Pic related

sup /g/,
how do I get better at soloing and practicing scales?
thanks in advance

>>71476576
play over backing tracks in key while looking at the scale and go all over the place

>>71476387
I really like the videos he does with Lee. Never listened to his music, though.

>>71475885
Get a 6i6, eventually you're gonna end up with a pedal with midi and you'll kick yourself for not getting it. I believe the 6i6 and above have better ADCs for less clipping.

>>71476387
He's the ken rockwell of guitars. I do kinda like his music tho, and he does seem to know what he's doing.

>>71471618
It's all in the electronics and acoustics,mate.
>Amps used in metal have circuits and electronic components in place to distort more
>"clean" sounding amps are usually tube amps, that are rather more about accurate reproduction of the guitar plugged in. All others apart from tube amps have circuitry in place to sound clean and accurate.

>>71476387
His new lines of guitars looks pretty interesting to be honest, I'd probably own one if they were a bit cheaper.

>>71476546
why ignore nick?

also julian wrote all their shit so why even mention them at all?

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Can you guys give me suggestions on which order to put these in? These are the pedals I own.

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>>71477731
This is my current order for them.

(Amp) <- Loop <- Reverb <- Delay <- Compressor <- Wah <- Distortion <- Octave <- Volume <- (Guitar)

>>71477752
first, does your amp have an effects loop?

>>71477762
No.

>>71477752
vol->wah->comp->rat->oct->delay->reverb->looper

>>71474134
Very nice anon

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>>71470591
You're pretty angry buddy. I want to tell you that is is still possible to make a living from a fresh new channel on youtube, but finding that niche and cross-marketing is the hard part.

I don't have any friends or any family members I hang out with and this is about as close to a social network I get. I don't have time for friends and I really don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, I actually feel you normal people with fiends and a social life are missing out on something I've figured out. Like all this productivity and work I get done. I wouldn't be able to do it if I had friends.

I still play games now, actually now more than ever, but much more productively and pretty much only exclusively to create content for my youtube channel. No it's not a stupid lets play channel. It's interesting to some people and there isn't really a youtuber out there now covering what I am with the same level of professionalism or even voice over. I hope to actually have my own professional documentary-type internet series one day, on amazon or netflix or something.

High hopes I know, but pretty soon, it might be closer than it seems. If viewing figures keep up and subscribers keep growing like they are I will be lucky enough to say that I will be able to make a proper living off youtube. That seemed impossible to me just 12 months ago, but now it's becoming a reality and it's something I enjoy and really want to do.

Anyway, about to order this Les Paul Tribute Plus in beautiful Black Cherry. I don't think there is a better value deal out there right now if you want an LP. You get a case, decent pickups, decent wiring, a real maple cap, locking tuners. MusosCorner are selling them for just $899 here in aus. There's the cheapest I've found so far so I'll probably get it from them. A standard plus top pro is $699. I mean there is more than $200 worth of extra specs in the tribute+. A case will set you back about $150 alone.

what do people do with octave pedals? genuine question

>>71477939
Octave + distortion makes an extremely beefy sound if you're playing monophonic.

>>71477939
a friend of mine splits his main guitar signal off into a dod meatbox and a PS-5 then runs it into a 400w head and 810 for sub bass frequencies down to like 25hz

>>71477985
example?

>>71477993
wtf does any of this mean

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>>71478022

>>71471519
Wasting time on guitar is a million times better than wasting it one man spamming anti-guitar shit in /gg/

>>71471113
>>tfw no decent versatile multi-channel hi-gain amp under $1000

Bugera 333xl/tri-rec, peavey 5150/6505, buy a used mesa dual recto. $1k can get a decent amp, $1k can get a kickass used amp.

>>71470178
>imho there is no reason to have more than one amp

You would hate to walk in my garage.

>>71478685
pics

>>71478657
From what I have heard Bugera amps break down real easy. Don't like the cleans from the 6505, any way you know on how to improve them?I am mirin the dual recto tho, really like it's sound. I would need an attenuator for such a behemoth tho. Thanks anyways kind anon.

We need a new thread.

>>71475530
thats what i was thinking , but is that truly the only way? is there a pedal or something that could bring me somewhat close?

>>71471286
Proud owner of a Blackstar Club 40 here
The only problem I've ever noticed is that the tubes went to shit very quickly. I don't know if that is the amps fault or if it just had shit-tier tubes from the get go but it is a problem nonetheless

>>71478890
Well, I wouldn't cross out the shit-tier tubes reason. It is made in china after all. Good amp, but it has a cheap build.

>>71476387
I bought his album and I own one of his guitars so I guess I like him

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>>71475223
>How can you be this musically clueless
>These are the shapes the notes make on the fretboard, they aren't "fingerings"
No, they are fingerings. You can play the same scales with three-note-per-string shapes, which is nice because it keeps your picking consistent.

I think you are the musically incompetent one because you are ignoring the fact that there are multiple ways to play the same scales.

>>71478782
Ive had a 333xl infinium since december 2012. Never had any issue with it. Cleans can be cleared up with some better pre amp tubes. Admitted there were some quality issues early on, and the tolex plus plastic knobs kinda suck.

Iirc some of the mesa have a selectable power setting. I know the bugera tri rec does.