was punk originated in the united states?

Yes although it wasn't until 1972 when they recorded their demo of I Got A Right

And technically that was the 2nd punk song and the first was actually Beatles 2.0 in 1970 with Lennon, Ring and Yoko

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>>71463400
Go back even earlier. Punk began in the 60's.

>>71463467
Garage =/= punk
Power chords =/= punk

I Got A Right is literally the blueprint

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Actually it originated in Prussia.

>>71463481
>Garage
A name slapped on decades later.
Like it or not, it's where it all began.

>>71463528
Why because they use power chords? Gonna take more than that. Gonna take drums.

>>71463544
http://www.mtv.com/news/2696469/lenny-kaye-patti-smith-suzanna-vega-corin-tucker/

>>71463734
What is your point instead of taking me to some rambling article on a horrible site

>>71463799
Read the article and educate yourself.
You might learn something.

>>71463830
lmao you're retarded

>>71463372
Germany actually, listen to Black Monk Time

>>71463830
Maybe later but I doubt I'll change my mind that it took drums to invent punk. Otherwise it took psycho Beatles 2.0 guitars to do it No Wave style ten years before the fact.

>>71463873
well they were still american

>>71463873
The sonics came before them and were from seattle. But imho the first punk album (not proto punk) was the dictator's go girl crazy, and it was USA too

>>71463962
Maybe but The Ramones were already playing full albums worth live the year before. There's video from CBGb in 1974

yes, and anybody who says otherwise is a mouth breathing, usda inspected, grade A fucking retard of the highest rarity

>>71463372
Australia, actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tF14gqGOOo

stooges - i got a right (heavy liquid - track #1)
https://youtu.be/axGsg3fPm84
Recorded July 1972

GONN 1966 Keokuk Iowa

https://youtu.be/yPRJ53xEV1A
https://youtu.be/8JqlIGS3Hdk

Imagine being a corn farmer and hearing this at the county fair.

Started in Peru

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>>71464034
>I'm Stranded, Released Sept. 1976
>Blitzkreig Bop, Released February 1976

Punk was just lofi rock n roll so yes

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>>71464236
>I just read wiki

>>71464236
>I'm Stranded, first known performance early 1974
>Ramones, first live performance September 1974
Saying when they were released as singles is like saying Smile ripped off Neo-Psych because it came out in 2011

>>71464012
Didn't know, thanks for the fact

>>71464931
My pleasure, and by full album I just mean enough to qualify for an album like over 20 minutes of material

>>71464993
I knew that ramones had a lot of songs before their s/t but didn't know they had so much already lol. Do you know other very early punk/protopunk bands? I'm really into shit like this lately but you know I feel there are the big legendary names like new york dolls, monks, stooges, etc or bands like rocket from the tombs and radio birdman that are really not known

>>71465084
See
>>71464065

That's all I know other than Lennon, Ringo and Yoko in 1970 but that's No Wave style of punk

And Death apparently copied that Stooges song's style but I'm not sure of the first date they recorded or performed one of these specifics songs although I assume it wasnt before 1974 but maybe.

>>71465264
Cool, thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugo7ai-CgTs

This song from 1969 is pretty punk. Even the lyrics.

>>71466412
pretty cool

>>71463400
I Got A Right is pretty much exactly what punk eventually became, but i'd say that Raw Power (the whole album) made that message much more clear and was probably more widely available for young people who became punks.

>>71467454
Right but apparently they are playing it that way live or ot got out somehow and that's how Death got their sound. It's too much of a coincidence that they're from the same city. In addition to whoever else may have heard it. Unless I'm confused about when Death write similar songs. I'm not very familiar with them at all except when I heard all their stuff many many years ago when I decided they simple copycats and moved on. Not that there's anything wrong with that but they're compositions aren't historically important.

>>71467532
Fucking autocorrect I swear

were playing

>>71465264
what's this about Lennon, Ringo and Yoko doing no-wave in 1970? I've never heard about anything like that

>>71467537
Just turn it off dude, it's so fucking pointless honestly. Half the time it corrects into words i don't even want. I turned that shit off years ago

>>71463467
How does anyone buy this popularly spouted opinion

its not very fast or energetic at all

its more of a soul or RnB groove of a song than punk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgQg4ze1_KU

this is more punk and was way earlier, probably the first song with power chord riffing

>>71467554
Well No-Wave in its most extreme like I think they were called Stretchheads and they paved the way for Melt Banana to move way past that. Plastic Ono Band (Beatles 2.0) did that in 1970 with the song Why

>>71467573
Yeah I should at least try it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EH7QMVnSRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594WLzzb3JI

these are way more punk than louie louie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQEGoSSya8s

another candidate

>>71467697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCb0TsSIqI0

Oh boy, this is some shit right here. Yoko fucking losing it in the background of course. The song is cool but her dumb voice kinda ruins it for me. Could totally be a Devo or B-52 song without the insanity that is Yoko singing.

Here are the facts: Rock and roll originated in the U.S. and since punk is an off shoot of rock and roll then the logical answer is that yes punk originated in the U.S. End of discussion. End of thread!

>>71467740
rock and roll came from africa

>>71467784
Post links to prove your point and further your argument.

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>>71464224
Came here to post this

>>71467819
Rock n Roll came from blacks
Blacks came from Africa
Therefore Rock n Roll came from Africa