>My Bloody Valentine invented shoegaze

>>71459338
Literally no one except retards think this

I'd cite Garlands before Treasure if we're going the CT route. Even if you didn't, Psychocandy still exists.

>>71459788
garlands isn't as shoegazy, but lorelei literally invented the entire loveless framework

>>71459945
>not sugar hiccup

>>71459338
nobody ever claimed this

anyways, cocteau twins fucking suck

>>71459338
>not a.r. kane

They even came up with a 'dream pop' termin

>>71460010
>first album 1988
kek

>>71460010
You're a fucking joke.

>>71460218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF18bkfrZUE
this was 1986

though honestly discussing who invented what is pretty stupid

>>71460293
Jesus and Mary Chain rip off.

The difference is AR Kane didn't know how to write songs.

>>71460352
Haunting is way too dreamy to be a JAMC rip-off. The first side of the single is one though.

>>71460381
That's because Ivo Watts Russell signed them and Ultra Vivid Scene since he couldn't have The Jesus and Mary Chain.

Neither of them panned out.

>>71460352
A LOVE FROM OUTER SPAAAACE
What you on about?

>>714593384
Nobody ever said that
They more dream pop and ethereal wave than shoegaze btw