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IGNORE ALL TRIPFAGS edition
>Give and receive feedback/discuss production topics

>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q (embed)

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com

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To join, you can go to http://www.rizon.net/chat
Choose a nick, put #/prod/ as channel. Enter!
Or you can get a lightweight desktop client here https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.
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>>71433597
i'm gay
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I forgot what that problem is called where your bass loses energy as you play different notes with it, but that's the problem I got right now and can't remember how to fix it

I've done that thing you're supposed to do where you walk around your room listening to it on your monitors to check if certain bass notes aren't as loud or weighted as others and I think I can still hear it, but at this point I might be just going mad

I've added some notches to certain harmonics and the fundamentals to make sure they're all reaching the same volume (see pic related) but I just dunno any more 2bh

here's the bass on it's own, can anyone with a set of ears tell me if there's still work to be done, and if so, what do?
>https://clyp.it/maggqg0a
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>>71433822
Use a dynamic EQ like the brainworx dyneq. That way when a certain note/fundamental gets too loud it will be attenuated, but when it's not loud it won't be affected by any eq

Also listening in headphones will rule out whether or not it's a room acoustics related problem
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>>71433822
step 1: take the reverb off and never put reverb on a bass again
step 2: stop being so meticulous. The phenomenon you're describing is dynamics - the actual varying levels within a sound itself. Dynamics are good. Unless you want your mixes to sound flat, I would only worry about it if it's clipping, or drastically disproportionate to the other notes.
step 3: try new monitoring. Other cans, buds, speakers, you name it. It's almost definitely because your monitoring has it's own peaks and dips built in to the hardware.
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posted in last bread but gunna post again because last time i checked quantum mechanics is a made up religion to hide that the fact world is flat and run by snake people that want my thoughts

https://clyp.it/rb5dd0ac
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>>71433995
>take the reverb off and never put reverb on a bass again
To elaborate on what this guy said, it's because bass frequencies are omnidirectional. Stereo imaging affects like panning or reverb don't do much good with them, because we can't really perceive that much of a change in the positioning of bass frequencies. So all reverb tends to do is muddy up the bass of the mix. This isn't a hard and fast rule, but one thing you can try is to put a lowcut on the reverb send so that only the high end information from the bass has reverb on it and not the low end
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>>71434095
>but one thing you can try is to put a lowcut on the reverb send so that only the high end information from the bass has reverb on it and not the low end
that is, if you really feel like you want a reverb effect on your bass, I mean. Otherwise just leave it off

Also bass is the strongest in the "phantom center" between the speakers, and putting reverb on it or panning it can cause it to lose some of that power, by bringing it out of phantom center.
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>>71434077
I really like how you used a single foley sample throughout the entirety of a track to mask the fact that there's pretty much nothing going on in your mix.
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>>71433922
>>71433995
>>71434095
Thanks for the quick replies
All the pdfs and such I've read on engineering have told me there's nothing wrong with a bit of reverb on a bass as long as it's super lowcut, which it was, plus the width was reduced to 0%
But fair enough, if it's that noticeable/bad I'll take it out or just redo the bass altogether at this point.

>>71434119
The bass is completely mono and center image, even with the reverb on it
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I got a track wich is basically an extension of another track.

I've got 50 seconds intro of the original track, then my own little intro and the full song.

How do you guys call that, a remix? a bootleg?

There must be another word for that.
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>>71434141
why does everyone around here think mixes have to have a ton of shit going on in them?

all the music i listen to and draw inspiration from isn't packed with little sound fx and shit

i listen to jazz and soul
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>>71433822
You could EQ the note that sounds the best, and sample that, load it up in the sampler and map to keyboard, as an alternative to playing the synth 'live' with midi.
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>>71434307
>all the music i listen to and draw inspiration from isn't packed with little sound fx and shit
>i listen to jazz and soul
holy hell... Live instrumentation is constantly being recorded differently in different places with varying refraction times, room tones, amps and cabinets. Even a solo instrument can sound refreshing and full, because to the trained ear, it always sounds new. You can't compare a track like yours to jazz and soul, they're just two different worlds.

The solution for musicians like you and me for not having a boring as fuck mix is to give each element unique characteristics and fit them together snugly in cooperation with each other. Right now, you need a LOT more character to your sounds if you want to keep the chords and structure the way it is right now, which is shit.
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>>71434537

chill out lmfao

what elements are you referring to that need more characteristics?

im still pretty new to production so i literally have no idea how to tweak my sounds, i've mostly been using presets from elextrax and nexus
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https://clyp.it/rmxfawb5
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>>71433995
>not reverbing the upper harmonics of ur bass

Damn, I forgot how retarded some people on /prod/ are.
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please rate guys i need feedback

https://clyp.it/ycodak2b
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>>71434825
>chill out lmfao
>presets from elextrax and nexus

>>71435050
I'll bite. Give me any instance in a mix where one should be practically encouraged to put a reverb send specifically on a bass track. Explain what would it be adding to a recording. Only thing I can think of is if you're trying to simulate a band who's bassist was banished to play in another room because the other guys keep telling him to turn down his amp. Reverb creates space, it's not just some willy-nilly thing you can lob on any track expecting to make it sound better.
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>>71435378
I'm not trying to stimulate space kek. I put quite a lot of reverb on my 808, as well as a slight chorus. It doesn't matter what you do, as long as it sounds good.
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>>71435378
simulate***
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https://clyp.it/ed4htmkd
thoughts? sorta goin for an iglooghost vibe
>>71435144
pretty decent, it's obvious you know a bit about producing, but it's nothing special. the bass and drums are great, but that top melody is pretty lame
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>tfw you refund a vst but you can still use it
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>>71435553
which one and why did you want to refund it
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>>71435553
>buying software
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>>71435542
>decent

OKAY THIS PLACE IS SHIT

i wanted to know how credible all the people on here actually are so i posted this producers beat

https://soundcloud.com/wondagurl/timmy

now she isn't just some random ass producer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WondaGurl

she's worked with a ton of high level artists


that clyp has got 11 plays and no replies

you'd think a place that actually knew anything about production would be able to spot a professional but no ...

don't take any advice from anyone here they are all overly critical / pretentious and will hold you back
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>>71435591
The Korg MS-20 VST
The thing's interface is way too small on modern computers. The software was designed back in ~2006 on shitty 1024 x 768..
I got my 25 dollars back and I just use it for presets now.
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>>71435436
>I'm not trying to simulate space, I'm just arbitrarily using this effect that I know nothing about which just so happens to be engineered to simulate space
Read up on the origin of effect pedals and plugins. First known instances of reverb were some guys recording a speaker playing a track in a cathedral. First instance of chorus was essentially an accident by some guy who didn't want to pay for a choir. These effects have origin and purpose. If you want to just fuck around with them that's great, just keep in mind you're not really aiming for the most intelligent audience.
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>>71435663
lol i was the one that responded and i have a song w like 10k more listens than that one
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>>71435722
listens are far less important than likes/reposts

regardless that wasn't the point

my point was that everyone here shits on 99% of the work here posted and has no real basis to do so other than being pretentious and overly critical

i wanted to show that a person who has made a career out of music can get posted here and still be called "decent"
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>>71435676
everyone needs to do how uhes synths where you can resize the gui by 10% increments
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>>71435663
>s-she's popular... she must be objectively good
wow what a surprise, the top notch trap producers are objectively just as shit as the little kids that try to mimic them.
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copped an mpc 1000.

anyone got a jjos password they wanna be generous w/?
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>>71435800
my song has about the exact same amount of likes/reposts :0
and i'm not shit
much like she isn't much to be blown away by, i imagine she just knows the right people
your point is that random internet ppl's opinions mean nothing, which i dont think anyone disagrees with you on. no one comes in here to get like, life affirming advice abt their art. just random opinions
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>>71435663
>now she isn't just some random ass producer
>soundcloud meme track with 22k plays
lel, what kind of sad world do you live in where that's considered professional and "high level"? I have tracks I made when I was 15 that have more plays than that. I feel like you're one of those dudes who is super salty because they only have 2 followers on soundcloud (and one is a bot) and lashes out at everyone for it instead of trying to make better music.
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>>71435663
wow you must have to be reeeeaaallllllyyyy fucking insecure about your production to have to go full ad-hominem on a whole community. Dude you're pathetic.
My guess is >>71434077 this is you too. Tell me I'm wrong.
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>>71435854
this
got an SC i can follow m8
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>>71435854
>tfw both my followers are bots
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>>71434263
dance music fags call it a VIP but most records would usually just name that a pt. 2
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>>71435874
holy fuck it has to be, same type of tumblr pic and everything
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>>71435825
>produced for drake, travis scott, jay z, ab-soul

you're just proving my point on being a pretentious cunt
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>>71435663
I actually agree with you, I don't know how that someone can call that clyp decent.

However, her clyp is also shit. It's generic af(like all her music on soundcloud), the only good thing about it is it's banging(indicating that it probably wasn't mastered by her)
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>>71435663
Its not that good lol
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>>71435874
that is me haha

i am insecure about my production, i'd think thats normal for someone who is newish to it. ignorance will not progress

if im going to rely on a community to help me get better i want to know what they think about music i think is good so i can gauge how much to trust their advice and take it seriously

i really don't see anything wrong with that desu
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>>71435881
this

i have been messaged by three bots on soundcloud claiming they are hot milfs
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>>71436044
what's wrong is your stupid tirade about us not liking some lame SC beats
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>>71435854
i have no followers on soundcloud lol

i don't even post anything

i haven't made anything that i would even consider post worthy yet
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I'm an uneducated pleb, so I don't know the time signature. What's the time signature?

https://clyp.it/gjnxmsvd

120bpm
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>>71436113
4/4
if you made it in a DAW it's probably set standard to that
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can anyone rec some resources on how to add drums to a track? usually i make downtempo/ambient experiments but im trying to add some beats to this

https://clyp.it/1monzjrh
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>>71433597
wtf is someone watching my life and turning it into cartoons?
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>>71436141
confused as to what you mean, just get some drum samples and put them on the track
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>>71436050
the milfs luv me on soundcloud
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>>71436168
ok, where do i get drum samples?
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>>71436191
google "free drum samples"
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>>71436206
it will take too long to find something i like and ill get 3 viruses, no
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>>71436141
You can get drum machine vst's if you don't want to go the sample route
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>>71436094
i'm not mad or upset

but that tone does attract others so you gotta play it if you want to get a point across
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>>71436223
whats a good drum vst?
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>>71436321
slapping your dick on a table ix pretty good
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>>71433822
Certain things you have you to take into consideration when mixing.

1. Your bass should be mono. If your bass has a wide stereofield, you're setting yourself up for massive headaches when playing on different systems in different rooms. As far as I can hear, it sounds pretty mono.

2. Equal loudness contour. You percieve frequencies different in loudness despite them being of equal sound pressure. This is the way our ears are tuned. No way around it but nifty EQ'ing

3. Acoustically treated listening space.
And I suspect this is where your problems lies. Your bass sounds fine on my headphones. It might not on your speakers in your room because your room is not properly set up for playback. Your room bounce soundwaves back and forth in the room that might amplify certain frequencies and dampen others.

If it's not your room it might be your speakers or headphones.

It sounds completely fine and even on my end.
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>>71436141
i like to make a basic beat to work off before i do my instruments for me it helps to have something to groove with
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>>71436044
Well, at least you're honest. Here's a bit of advice my man: If you don't like what we think.. just leave.
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https://clyp.it/5wgk4iae
is it too noisy? are the instruments at a decent volume?
also what instrument should I add
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>>71436850
pretty good honestly I was kind of surprised. You should seek out a better recording space or look into acoustic treatment unless you actually want that sort of dry low-budget sound.
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>>71436191
>ok, where do i get drum samples?
Hell, just rip some breaks off of youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBQ2ebzEZ8
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>>71436885
I want an obnoxious dry lo-fi sound but I don't want it to be too tiring, especially the (cheap) melodica is difficult to get right. actually every instrument has to be played a certain way to work with the laptop mic
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>>71437009
I see. Good thing you're self-aware because there is definitely a wrong way to execute that aesthetic. I think it's good so far keep at it.
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>>71437070
absolutely. here's another try with the melodica and different vocals. I think it sounds kind of neat but it's impossible to discern the lyrics. this is def more "obnoxious"
https://clyp.it/n5ixccpz
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>>71433639
why am i laughing so much at this
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Any feedback on this track in progress would be helpful

https://soundcloud.com/oceans1/distortdemo
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>>71437775
>soundcloud
use clyp.it
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>>71437775
>>71437926
https://clyp.it/2mpmcvht

Is this what everyone is using nowadays?
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>>71438023
it's to keep shillfags and self promotion out of these threads. We're here to bitch about how many db your snare needs to be turned down, not to give you plays on soundcloud.
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>>71433597

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5iJisdpriY
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>>71438100
understandable. Ill keep that in mind. Thanks
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Hey guys, made this idea this morning hoping to make it into a full song. Can you let me know what you think? I need to work on my build ups to make them more interesting, would love some tips!

https://clyp.it/5zaabfvv
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where is flume?
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>>71438404
what's good my m808
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>>71438398
cool, bit predictable and one dimensional. I wish for some more chord variations and maybe some off beat synth hits would make the song more interesting. Never really gets off the ground though, the last bit just doesnt take off for me.

Mixing sounds all right, maybe put a pad in the background of the down 'verse' part of the song, sounds a bit empty in there.

You can always sparkle it up with a bit percussion. Rolling onto snare hits, break fills.
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>>71433822
Probably your room
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>>71435663
Can I be a meme soundcloud trap producer now?
https://clyp.it/chwactwj
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>>71438023
>https://clyp.it/2mpmcvht
you need to lower the mid frequencies on that rhodes m8, shit is piercing my ears.
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>>71438785
Thanks for the info, a couple of those points you made I was already thinking of experimenting with. Like I said, I made it today just to get the general "vibe" out. It's not mixed other than static mix of volume and panning. Thanks again for the feedback, but did you enjoy it? Not from a technical standpoint but musical? Head bob, foot tap?
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>>71438453
prove that ur flum
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>>71439792
not quite my cup of tea, you have the technical down, it's your songwriting that's lacking a bit.

When writing songs, it might be a good idea to map your song out first. The structure, what chords you're going to use, the hook. If it works on a piano, it will sound great when you create something out of it like future bass.
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https://soundcloud.com/user-819416802/ctmt-unfinished

How's my mixing? This is mostly done except for some vocals.
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>>71439964
>If it works on a piano
seriously this always test your writing on piano instead of a synth
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https://clyp.it/trusvbmu
First time making something.
Thougts?
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>>71440035
>>71439964

Hey thanks, I know songwriting is not my strong point. I started music production from a technical standpoint - spent the first few months just making sounds. Synths, drumkits, vocal samples etc. Now that I have that down and if I think of a sound it's easier to figure out how to make that sound - but I lack musicianship a great deal. Never played an instrument other than bass guitar. I'll work on that. Thanks!
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>>71440929
*teleports behind you*
heh nothing personnel kiddo
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why can't dem whyte boiz make gud muzak?
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>>71433597
>IGNORE ALL TRIPFAGS edition
>ableton meme picture
why do we let teenagers come here again?
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>>71435835
>a jjos password
what? is jjos something you need an invite to?
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>>71441743
because you pretend to be black on the internet
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Is there any way to download from Audioz that isn't slow as fuck and doesn't involve me paying for Usenet?

I absolutely refuse to download anything that isn't under 100mb from there just because of how slow their hosting sites are. And it's not my internet, I have a very very fast connection.
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>>71436220
Don't expect a Korean goat singing forum to spoon feed you thing. Stop being low energy and go find some samples if you don't wanna pay for them,
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Anyone know of a good plugin to simulate scratching on a record player? Preferably one that runs in AAX since I'm using Pro Tools, don't really wanna have to run the samples into something else then back out.
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>tfw will never be able to make a song as complicated as bohemian rhapsody
>why even live

More complicated music = better music

prove me wrong you literally can't
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>>71442273
This is like 4 notes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os-cHI9G2KU

'Daggers in the heart of Stalin' was how Ligetti described it
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Hey /prod/ i tried to make some Bachata/Latin inspired, tell me if i did well
https://clyp.it/y2d53lpn
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>>71436321
Most of the time I actually send midi to my drum machine but when I cbf to turn the drum machine on, I use this: http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=TS-808&id=912
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How to get into FL studio moving from regular (audacity, cubase, reaper) DAWs?
I can't go past doing those retarded 4 bar loops, how do i turn that into an actual song?
That interface is all retarded makes me want to record everything from a mic
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>>71442273
bohemian rhapsody is extremely overrated
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>go to product page for black nanokontrol2
>"More coming soon - reserve yours today"
>go to product page for white nanpkontrol2
>"Usually ships in 2-3 days"
>buy the white one
>check order summary on website the next day
>quantity available: 0
>check the product page again, click on the little ? next to "Usually ships in 2-3 days"
>"LOLOLOL WE MENT IT USUALLY SHIPS TO US FROM TEH SUPPLIER IN 2-3 DAYS XD"
WHY?! why do you have 2 different messages to say that something is out of stock? people are obviously gonna assume that "Ships in 2-3 days" means it ships to you from their warehouse.

and the nanokontrol2 is discontinued so i don't even know if it's possible for them to restock them
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>>71433597
Can someone listen to this and tell me if it loops well? It sounds funny to me transitioning between the short notes and long notes but idk if thats because ive been listening to this on repeat for about 2 hours
Heres my loop:
https://clyp.it/0otf2v3x

And here's the original song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHzs0d-cBuI&ab_channel=magrosi65
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>>71443205
Just practice, search some theory on music. the more you practice the easier the interface will become.
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>>71439244
thise 808s are mixed terribly
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>>71439244
Nope. Your kick needs to be a lot softer, and you need to work on actually developing the frequency spread for your 808. At the moment its drowning everything in gross bass, and not in a good way.
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>>71444134
Sounds fine to me, pretty chill but fun sound.
I'd put a snap or mild clap the transition at 0:24, to make the loop a little less obvious.
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https://clyp.it/e42gv1vt
thoughts on this? tried making juke but it didnt really end up sounding much like juke at all
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>>71445141
I think it would sound better if the kick was more pronounced/less muffled. Idk might be my speakers

Everything else sounds good
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>>71445191
thank u. it probably isn't ur speakers, i was gonna layer up the kicks but got lazy, and the rest of the mix blows dick so that doesnt help
much love famo
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>>71435835
Nobody?? Rebumping my comment...

>>71441786
Look it up. It's an alternative software/OS you can install on it. Has more features and shit. Various OS' but if you want the juiced up one it's $120 for a password.
Also quick general question /prod/. What bs laptops do y'all use to make shit on??? Looking for one but don't know where to begin. Any recommendations??

Looking at a thinkpad to also use for general use but I hear their sound cards are kinda shit
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>>71445935
Also quick general question /prod/. What bs laptops do y'all use to make shit on??? Looking for one but don't know where to begin. Any recommendations??

Looking at a thinkpad to also use for general use but I hear their sound cards are kinda shit
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>>71445935
i know what it is, i just always assumed it was open source. didn't know there was a paid version
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Does anyone have any tips for finding people to be in a band? I have about 2 albums worth of full tracks that I wrote/recorded every part to but I can't find anyone to play shows with. I live in a small town and go to community college so talent is essentially absent, and not to come off as too pretentious, the few musicians that I've found aren't good enough to play what I've written which astounds me because I'd rate myself a 4/10 when it comes to overall skill.
I just wanna play some shitty basement shows, why is it so hard
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>>71445985
Yah, it's bullshit but I knew that before buying

Got a barely used one on bargain to feel out
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>>71438398
Yo that bouncy, clicky lead is neat!
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>>71446015
Post flyers in your college, check local craigslist
Host band tryouts, only call back the good ones
That's all I got
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>>71446015
become a one man band, loop pedals, backing tracks, maybe a novation circuit or smth like that and a drummer is enough for most everyone
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>>71446015
This is 80% my life as well dude. The problem I've run into is the VAST majority of musicians I've met are all metalheads, and don't want to do anything remotely different. Plus the problems of even if you do find someone you like they prolly have a kid, car payments, lease or mortgage, just shit like that nailing them down to the floor and then saying "Yeah i wanna be in a band I can only practice for 10 minutes every month though is that cool?"
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>>71446083
The only things I find on CL are shitty power chord rock bands who cant find a bassist, and I don't have a place to hold tryouts. I just use mics in my bedroom and have a mic'd kit in my living room, its a shit situation

>>71446216
I thought about that but I've watched one man bands and its not very entertaining, regardless of the music quality. It doesn't have the same appeal IMO

>>71446253
The worst I've ever met is a metalhead who tries to make every single goddamn song into a prog song with time sig changes all over the place. I love me some prog but the dude literally would just switch sigs out of nowhere, for a random amount of bars, and it sounded like garbage.
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I found this old fucker in my parents' basement the other day.

Will using it offer any improvement in sound quality over using my laptop's standard audio out?
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>tfw you have become the master of ejay
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>>71446506
possibly, depending on how the sound from your laptop is. will definitely be better for recording and it's probably got asio drivers that would be better than using asio4all
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>>71446054
thanks man!
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how do i make a track sound vintage to match the texture of my samples?

https://clyp.it/yktc5xoj

like how could i make my instruments a little more low fi and add some of that live recorded grit?
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Hey, newfag here, I notice the Wiki doesn't provide piracy links, does anyone have a good public tracker/drive for vsts?
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>>71449451
https://thepiratebay.org/
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https://clyp.it/dddkexrw

Is this a good kick? I've been experimenting and reading some more. If anyone has any feedback on it, I'd be very thankful to hear it!
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>>71449911
no
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>>71450102
Fuck.
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>>71446506
Lol, stole this exact model from my high school back in 09

It's mainly meant for podcasting but I used it for my bass W/ VSTs like amplitude etc...

It won't make your shit sound that much better than your PC sound card but it's an upgrade from them. Its mainly meat for recording. Nice to have on the side for some random shit if you wanna fuck around with it.
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>>71449911
depends, use it in a mix and see
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https://clyp.it/hlsiuiu2

any thoughts on this?
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>>71450479
very cool

i really like that base line
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>>71450479
I like the Justice bass but u rly need to take some time and learn some theory.
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OK, so Fab Filter is really amazing. It was recommended to me here. What are some other must have audio plugins?
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>>71447058
>>71450412
I'm not going to use it to record anything, I had it from the guitar/band days but I make bleeps now.

I gave it a try and there was a subtle increase in quality. I'll keep it just cause I forgot how nice it is to physically use a volume knob whilst producing.
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https://clyp.it/b3vfjml5

probably wrong place to ask but I am recording and "producing" albeit I don't know shit about anything. This is just a clip and pretty much the dynamics are the same along the track.

Is the guitar too buried and the drums too prominent? I don't want to have drums at the forefront (because they are not real drums, just ezdrummer) I am not sure I am doing compression right for any of the instruments. The background synth should only (in my mind) be a melodic feature so I don't care much about it but I could also be wrong about its function.
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>>71450707
the dissonance is completely intentional
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>>71451103
thats disgusting
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>>71451129
trust me it will work out in the end.
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Posted this on /metal/, finished my first track mix ever i just wanna know what you guys think. I'm really influenced by opeth, wintersun, amon amarth, agalloch,etc.

https://clyp.it/mi2nneup
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I know i have seem the Ableton Emulation of DJM mixer out there before I just can't find it right now. I'm looking for a Ableton EQ presets to emulate any or all of the DJM Mixers.
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Does anyone use Audiotool? I find my downtime I spend most of my time making music at work using it, so now I have a lot of interesting projects that I've started on there. Does anyone know how I can use those in other projects? Is there an easy way to post a WIP on clyp without having to publish?
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>>71451285
This one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ojhJB-m7vc

Holy shit, I'd kill my mother to have this.
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anyone use PureData? I'm just getting started and when i click on number boxes they dont do anything and im trying to change their numbers without using the mouse cause it's practically impossible that way. what could i be doing wrong?
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>>71451661
their website doesnt even work and their facebook has a download page but you need an account to see whats there
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>>71433597
check out this experimental/noise/hip-hop shit i was fucking with this morning
https://clyp.it/hgoekjgc
keep in mind it's not a finished track, just the first couple of ideas, an intro and a verse and it just ends basically
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>>71444239
>>71444637
it's a joke m8

took me 30 mins to throw together some 808s and absynth pads.
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>>71452189
>I am ashamed that I'm not better at making music. Better say it only took me 30 minutes to make, as if time spent=quality
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>>71452281
why are you getting triggered?
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>>71452301
stop posting
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>>71449092
idk, try some light bandpassing or some low pass filtering. distort it a little bit or detune it slightly and slowly. add some of dat gud vinyl crackle mang
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>>71451661
that might just be the shittiest demo I've ever seen
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>>71444134
I am absolutely going to steal this sample and make something better while you can't do shit about it. How does that make you feel?
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>tfw trying to be like early kanye
https://clyp.it/c1lkcq2l
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>>71452281
It was a goof I made of this >>71435663

I wont spend 8 hours tweaking kicks and 808s on a goof of soundcloud meme bones xxxtancion trap because it is a shitty underwhelming genre to begin with.
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>>71446506
Depends on the laptop. You can bet the isolation for the sound card from the power supply is better so there will be a fraction less noise, otherwise you're probably just looking at having RCA outputs.
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>>71452312
why? am i not shitting on enough people's joke clyps for you?
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>>71449092
Get Izotope Vinyl, its free. If nothing else turn everything off except the warp model and just add a touch, gives a nice old-school sound. Also using bit rate reduction can sound really nice, a lot of old drum machines used 12 bit sound engines so that can sound ok on drum tracks. Saturation also helps a lot, and like the other anon said EQ. As for the "live recorded grit", play with reverb and compression. A slight room reverb on stuff with slightly more aggressive compression can do wonders.
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>>71450721
Saturation Knob by Softube. Free, I've used it on every single mix since getting it in one capacity or another. I also highly recommend Izotope Vinyl.
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>tfw I used to be pretty much pitch deaf and had no rhythm before I started producing

Sucks being a white boi desu
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>>71452894
>I've used it on every single mix since getting it in one capacity or another
same, sounds so fucking good and it's only one knob to control (plus the little 3 way switch at the bottom)
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>>71451055
Is there a specific genre you're going for here? The drums are mixed really aggressively as if they're for metal, then you've got some grunge guitar, then some spacey organs floating off to the side. I'd say pick a style you want to mix similar to and go for that.
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>>71452897
tfw u still have no pitch or rhythm and you've been producing for like 3-4 years now
god bless DAWs but idk how im gonna do it in a live setting
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>>71452766
Why even make any music then?
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>>71452897
only white people can into syncopated rhythms desu
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>>71452724
Lol. Nigga you wild rn
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>>71453129
it's already downloaded on my pc. Only a matter of time until I'm famous
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>>71440230
It has potential.
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Is there a SICP equivalent that will tell me what any of this means when I listen to electronic music? Classical is easy because there are rules and jazz is easy because jazz men only have 2 arms each, but as soon as I turn on any piece of synthetic music that isn't a strict 'boots and cats' I get lost.
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>>71440230
>>71453792
>when your self-esteem is so low you need to anonymously give yourself compliments on the internet
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>>71453991
>implying
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>>71452897
If you actually want the same melody to be repeated throughout, at least learn how to do it properly. That's not how you do it.
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>>71454037
>he thinks this suffices as evidence otherwise
first day?
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>>71453896

Electronic music is less rules but more memes, it's based more around sound design than composition so the things that get copied from successful tracks tend to be the sounds more than the musical phrases.

It's still possible to trace a piece's origins and influences but the practice of doing that involves knowing firstly when older pieces are being referenced (classic synth sounds for example) and secondly whether pieces are using a technique that has recently become commonplace, or that has become an exaggerated version of a traditional technique (sidechaining for example).

In short, learn synths and the time periods they became popular within, who made them popular at that time. Production techniques same as above. The work your way forward to the people these sounds influenced, and the people that went on to be influenced by the first ones and so on.

If in doubt with most mainstream electronic stuff, starting points are commonly John Carpenter, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk or Giorgio Moroder.
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>>71453070
because it's fun.

https://clyp.it/ecpo5l1y

Now hurry up and drop some bars about how you want to shoot up a school or something, we might make some easy bucks off the "edgy teenager but metal hurts my ears crowd"

then we make you a instagram where you sucker punch your mom and all the kids will think you're the baddest fucker around.

we split 50/50
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>>71454311
getting VERY tired of all this hip hop/trap/nigger shit clouding /prod/
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>>71453896
does it sound good? if yes, producer did good job. bonus points if it makes you dance. if you want to be autistic about it, i dont know any books but read about methods of synthesis, effects, and as the other guy said common synth presets and samples. personally, the more the track leaves me drawing blanks on all of those things and makes me feel like my brain is being fried and my emotions overloaded, the better.

also if you read that there are rules in classical you read a book thats a few hundred years outdated.
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really noob question about recording guitar/bass.

is it better to "clean" record them from my pedal going directly into my pc with a 3.5mm cable to microphone port, or play through an amp and put a usb microphone in front of it?
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>>71452281
>>71453070
stop being buttmad, aint nothing wrong with pumping out quick tracks for the hell of it and being proficient in as many genres as possible is actually a great skill, even genres that are irredeemable shit. course i do agree with >>71454371 that although its great to make trap for fun its probably better to jam the shit straight on your soundcloud or whatever and skip the /prod/ step unless you like the idea having a bunch of people who wont like your music listen to it.
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>>71454503
do you own a gorillion dollar tube amp and a fancy mic?

do what you want tho depending on what sound youre after and which method better achieves it when you listen to the results, fuck i mic my synths sometimes (i dont actually own a guitar/bass)

but if you are using a shitty cheap usb mic i highly doubt you are going to be getting the sound you want (get a BM800, check out /g/'s chinkshit generals). and when it comes to recordingstuff with effects on it or doing a super lofi recording, remember that you can always add more effects later or playback your shit and record it but you aint taking effects or distortion off later.
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>>71454505
Don't defend him. This isn't the place for jokes and meme songs. This is for production help and discussion.

Fuck, sometimes I want to burn this place to the ground and piss on the ashes while I build a sick guitar solo on FL's piano roll.
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>>71452897
>>71452997
wen you try tapping a rhythm in your head on the computer keyboard and you cant even do that right
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>>71454653
too serious, too serious. i put joke bits in a bunch of my tracks. nothing like a jarring genre switch to brighten things up.
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>>71454653
>sick guitar solo on FL's piano roll.
https://youtu.be/YfzOW2WS75Y

i think it sounds pretty good
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Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, couldn't find a better thread to ask and didn't think it warranted its own. Can any of you dudes ID this? I dunno shit about keyboards, thinking of getting this one to learn to record and produce some stuff, but I can't read the label well enough to Google whether or not it's shit.
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>>71454810

Casio CDP-100
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>>71454810
it is a casio privia but im not sure what model number
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>>71450479
really love that dry distorted bass.

If you could share that technique of getting that sound I would appreciate it.

On to the track. It's meandering a bit all over the place. I would work on getting down one groove or riff to build around, right now you have something going on with the bass but it doesnt have the limelight and your chord progressions arent really heading anywhere satisfying.

And maybe add some tape saturation/distortion in a parallel buss on the kick and snare to give them more of that vinyl sampled sound. Or directly onto the kick and snare, whatever rocks your boat.
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>>71454852
That's it; thanks man.
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>>71437565
Because it's a tripfag triggering someone that probably hurt his feelings and is joining in on a trolling campaign to feel even more inclusive for the hole in his heart that never gets filled amongst the embrace and banter he has to deal with here on 4chan (a registered trademark and brand). No worries, my friend, the word "projection" may follow.
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>>71454934
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>>71454906
it's mostly just flanger, a lot of saturation, a transient designer pulling up the transient, some compression and some limiting.
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hows this for a start?

https://clyp.it/huecaabu

ignore arrangement and that the drum pattern just loops over and over. mostly interested in whether the concept and melodies are worth developing into a full song
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I'm new to putting music online. Is SoundCloud usually for unfinished songs and Bandcamp is for finished albums?
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Can i get a r8 please?

https://clyp.it/hbxnevei
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>>71456193
i realllllllly like the part that where the beat slows down

its like space boombap

super cool dude
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So I was sampling 'the residents' then like a half an hour ago I accidentally made this flylo beat and I'm not really sure what to do with it
https://clyp.it/ksspvbk1

>>71456193
drop sounds really dry partly because of that bass which would be inaudible on most systems. If you want to keep that dark character with it I'd say either boost lo-mid harmonics in the sound or do some layering because it's damn quiet.
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>>71456411
thanks! it took a lil' bit of experimenting to match the 2nd tempo with the right sound.

Also thanks for the song name :P
>space boombap

>>71456475
i have the bass cut at 200hz before the drop and drop it down to 30hz after. maybe that needs to change o.0 Is the over-all bass just too quiet in general?

Also your song is pretty dope. I <3 your dissonant pads! However, I think you snare is a bit harsh, you might need to filter some off the top and bring down the gain a little.
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comfy jazz album mixing at 4:30 am
clyp.it/jepvqz0a
fun times
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>>71444144
What kind of theory? I do know some theory for my instruments i think its about the FLs interface
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>>71454505
>being proficient in as many genres as possible is actually a great skill
That made me want to do one whole album for each genre. Rock, trap, blues, funk carioca. What else?
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>>71456999
Bachata/Latin... What else
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>>71435854
Not that guy but post your sc

and 25k plays on sc wowwww you mean like everyone who posts a "lofi beat" with an anime picture?
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>>71456999
psytrance
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thoughts?

https://clyp.it/yzbqsblf
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>>71443205
Is there a DAW thats focused on synths and beats like FL but with a more traditional interface?
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>>71451661
>>71451285
HELP Me please.
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>>71457572
i use cubase and its great for everything imo
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>>71456475
>>71456588
thanks on the feedback. I wanted the snare to really hit center and sharply, hopefully it isn't too much.

Just put in another hour on it and i pretty much changed everything as usual haha..
https://clyp.it/enexmbo0
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Does anyone here use Komplete Kontrol and Maschine? If so, do you use them in DAW?

I've been recording shit in Machine and exporting the group's and sounds when I'm done and then putting them into Reaper and working on them there. I feel like there has to be an easier way. Anybody have any DAW recommendations?
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how's your midi bossa nova track going /prod/?
https://clyp.it/3u3gap1v
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>>71457609
i use cubase too but find it very limited for creating loops and beats
you have to make a new track for each instrument, kick, clap whatever.
and can't adjust the sample's attack, pitch, note etc. and on FL its a primary thing
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>>71458505
it's going like this https://clyp.it/y2d53lpn

also bossa is for snobs, either listen to samba or jazz
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>>71458611
im sorry i wasnt actually asking u i just wanted people to listen to my song :)

nice song tho thanks you very much :)
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>>71458505
It's tall, and tan, and young, and lovely.
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>>71458584
what version are you using 8.5 has a drum sampler where you can do all of that

i dont think theres anything wrong with fl studio though i used to use it in version 10 it is a good daw that many people use to make great music
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>>71457572
Also Ableton
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https://clyp.it/tmoalw4c

https://clyp.it/rhfhwxyh

https://clyp.it/3g5xn132

check it out yall

first is some me messing with a filter beat

second is lo fi hip hop first attempt

third is me attempting to "create" a sample so it sounds sampled
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>>71457572
adlib II
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https://clyp.it/fflemhc0
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I need help.

https://clyp.it/m2a0imn1
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>>71458790

>https://clyp.it/tmoalw4c
Hey, I like that!!

>https://clyp.it/rhfhwxyh
Very mellow, but just a thought - my mind was constantly asking for rainfall to come through. If you can find a nice sample of some rainfall to hit the background of that, that would be really cool.

>https://clyp.it/3g5xn132

I dont like the mix on this one, lots of high end static.
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>>71458855
>>71457509
>>71456765
>>71456193
>>71452760
>>71450479
>>71443004
>>71445141
>>71440230
>>71435009
>>71458911
OP here. Reminder that spamming and ego-fondling does nothing for the thread. Discuss production topics, and when asking for and giving feedback, focus on production related concepts.
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>>71458790
>>71458966
Oh my goodness yes, put some rainfall on that beat.

http://www.rainymood.com/ <---- throw that shit on lowest volume.
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>>71458973
shut the fuck up
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>>71458911
>>71458973
Well maybe I wasn't specific enough, but I didn't really know what I wanted to ask, I just want someone else's first impression or what comes to their mind.

I did give feedback in another post. These are both me.

>>71458966
>>71458988


Thanks, officer.
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>>71458911
>https://clyp.it/m2a0imn1
Needs long bass hits imho 808s or 909s

I probably would have side chained compression to the pad stabs instead of just playing them on the quarter notes.
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>>71458973
REAL OP here

Reminder that pretending to be OP when not OP is an act punishable by death
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>>71459034
the true op here
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>>71459017
why are you replying to the people who were replying to me??

>>71458988
>>71458966
thanks for the feedback anons
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actual OP here
>>71459053
>>71459034
>>71458973


stop faking OP status u cunts
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>>71459132
all three of those were me haha sorry for multiple posting
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>>71445953
You'll want as much processing power as you can get. I'd say that's the most important thing. Also, if you plan on using an external audio interface with it, the internal soundcard won't really matter. Solid state hard drives are nice, but not mandatory if you're patient and don't mind waiting on things to load.

I ended up going with a low-end gaming computer in late 2015, and it's been great so far.

/r/SuggestALaptop is a pretty good place to see what the best deals are currently.
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>>71459034
>>71459141
>>71459185
chrome history doesn't report hours or minutes so I have no way of proving it, and honestly don't care because I know you're pulling my leg.

>>71458997
t. talentless clyp spammer with no (You)s

>>71459017
>I just want someone else's first impression
That would have been good to mention firsthand. In threads on other boards, posting a link with no context is considered spamming. Although we have unwritten laws embedded in our community as a constant undercurrent, it's courteous and helps to prompt more fruitful discussion when you provide context.

Just trying to keep this place healthy. It's gone downhill recently I feel, partly because of this phenomenon.
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>>71459191
>this
Multiple cores (and 64 bit OS and programs) are key unless you want to bounce tracks to free up proc power. Those reverbs can be pretty taxing on the low latency audio cards.

Go with a focusrite for the audio card. Good bang for the $
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>>71459222
So what's your feedback for me OPizzple?
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>>71459302
>>71459020
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>>71459302
>>71458911
My initial thoughts? Everything feels sort of dry, cheap I guess (namely the synths). This is probably because of your mixing, your monitoring system, or the way you bounced it. My guess is I can hear there's lots of stereo width in the hi's which might've been cut off from an mp3 print, and that's why it sounds so sparkly to you and so thin to me.
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>>71459302
your gay
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>>71459367
strange, i bounced it as a .wav file
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>>71459367
you listening to it through your phone speaker or something cheap? Don't know what you're talking about that sounds huge, man.
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>>71459611
ah, then in that case, just into /mastering/
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>>71459367
>>71459681
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>>71459700
>>71459666
>>71459611
your digits are impeccable, but your samefagging is unbearable. You asked for critique, take it or leave it.
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>>71459666
oh also, I have JBL lsr 308s and Beyerdynamic DT770s
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>>71459748
>JBL
i have jbl 2328p and they are great monitors imo
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>>71459700
>>71459681
that wasn't me... fuck man,
I'm sorry you're getting so confused here, I am honestly getting confused myself.

>>71459611
this was my reply. I'll try and post pics with some consistency to make it easier.
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god damnit i fucked up again - sorry im on a phone... I'm just gonna stop.

>>71459666
>>71459700
These were the posts i was trying to tag in the previous post >>71459929
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>>71459941
>>71459929
it's fine, hopefully you found something I said useful, if not, don't worry about it
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>>71459980
yeah of course, i take every advice into consideration. /mu/ is a tough community though, I feel most people are too edgy and prude and the type of music I make doesnt fit too well here, so I get generic meme remarks and put downs. It's late here, so I've been making this track in headphones only. I have two pairs: KRK KNS-8400s and Audio Technica MH40's. I have yet to test on my monitors.

Can I hear one of your tracks?
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>>71460061
https://clyp.it/hkamihys
this is two years old
https://clyp.it/euzz5r2w
https://clyp.it/vffui5au
these are more recent

Can't tell if I progressed or regressed. I stopped falling for the beep boop trap meme and gave my sounds and mix more character. wat u think
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>>71460596
extremely talented I love the last two especially. How long you been producing and what's your set up?
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trap producers aren't real producers.
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>>71453991
>>71454064
is this your first day on a board that isn't /b/?
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>>71460596
wow dude these are actually amazing
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>>71460596
How many followers do you have?
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>>71454371
hear that /prod/? we should all decide what music to make based on this guy's tastes
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>>71460596
better than 99% of the clyps in this thread
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>>71460963
Why don't you try something new? It does get kinda annoying when pretty much all the clyps in this thread are the same thing over and over again.
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>>71460596
>https://clyp.it/vffui5au
MHMMMMMM, that made me wet.
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>>71460984
i dont make trap, but i also dont whine when other people do
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>>71460999
nice digits, but my argument still stands

>>71460596
These are real fucking good man, even for lo-fi shit
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>>71460596
soundcloud?
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How do I write lyrics that aren't terrible cheesy shit?
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got told by other producers that my track was "ABSOLUTE FIRE" and another compared it's complexity and detail to the tracks of a world renowned producer. What do? Apart from brag on /mu/ of course.
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>>71461121
synonyms

say things without saying the cliche version of it

study poets and authors phrasing
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>>71461152
show us the fucking track
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>>71433597
What's a good scale to work in for an emotional song? I usually do E major, but people say my music doesn't give them much of a feeling.
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>>71461152
First show it. What do you want to do with your music? Make money?
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Best DAW for minimal techno production?
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>>71461376
Renoise on Debian.
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>>71435553
>refund a vst
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>>71461171
>>71461249
it's not that good though
https://clyp.it/rmxfawb5

>>71461249
who doesn't want to make money lol? However, I wouldn't be doing it anyway if I didn't enjoy it.
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>>71461455
Very good production and ideas. I love the stereo work here too.

It's more than good man, I like this a lot.
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>>71461400
Why debian
?
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>>71460596
Your remix of calabria is un-fucking-real.
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>>71461502
Thanks man, but is it good enough for a label?
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>>71461502
I'm not this guy

>>71461798
but dont put all your eggs in one basket, you for sure have what it takes with your skills in production but make sure you have at least 3 label worthy songs ready to go.
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>>71461824
Yeah I realize that, I'm obviously going to have to showcase my versatility in production before they invest. Luckily I'm from a country where the music industry seems to be a lot more open to new ideas.
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>>71461798
I believe so. I've been on 2 labels already and they were pretty shit albums.

Keep at it and make a good portfolio of songs to send to labels.
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>>71458423
I haven't used a proper Daw since getting my Maschine Studio. It seemed to work just fine as a vst in Logic when I tried it but then I focused on learning the Maschine software and haven't really found the need to run a Daw. The workflow of Maschine seems to suit me just fine.
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>>71450721
Valhalla vintage verb
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Where would a beginner go to learn music production?
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People tell me my music is good but the production needs work I have no idea how to go about identifying whats wrong.

Could anyone give a listen and tell me what the issues are?
https://soundcloud.com/kertroid/sets/the-sound-before-never
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>>71462699
Almost every song is clipping and the melodies feel very random. All the instruments you have chosen are also very cheap sounding. These tracks have bad pacing too.

I don't know if this is bait but I'd spend a lot more time learning and practicing with your DAW.
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https://soundcloud.com/georgepipe/mss01-clip

Housey tune i've almost finished, tell me what you think.
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>>71458847
Lol what that is for? DOS? lol
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>>71462893
How big of a problem is it that I cant hear the clipping? Like at all? I think I might have a hearing problem :/

Melodies are somewhat random, I'm learning music theory and composition as I go along so I implement new elements whenever I learn them and then try to make it as cohesive as possible
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>>71462671
It doesnt fucking have a Density knob how to take that plugin seriously
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>>71462924
Post it on clyp and we will.
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https://clyp.it/bijd130s

Tried to produce some latin/bachata inspired, what do you think guys?
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I'm trying to get into singing, whats your impressions on this clyp?
https://clyp.it/udb23cyu
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>>71463037
You have not spent enough time training your ear if you cant hear clipping. In the second track you can hear a buzzing (mostly in the right ear) when the piano is played, this is very audible clipping, and an example of an extreme case. In most cases its much more subtle, so If you can not hear that I dont know what to tell you. If you really must, use a limiter on your master.
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>>71461798
Not for any serious label, no. You have to remember that a label is a business interested in making money, and I dont think that this track is really a money maker. You could make good trap though.
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>>71463158

Sorry, there you go.
>https://clyp.it/ru54lnub
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>>71463248
My first impression was that you were drunk. I would say work on finding your range and sticking to it.
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>>71463381
Pretty cool, even if house isn't really my thing. I like the stereo image. I would say maybe work on something to drive the song forward but not being into house for the reason that I think it normally lacks drive, maybe that isn't what it needs.

From a sonic standpoint its quite good.
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>>71452950

I want to soften the drums to have them hanging in the background and thick acoustic leads. I guess I should focus on metal-style production but it could cause a lot of clashing with drums. A good example of my aim is Pelican acoustic tracks.
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>>71459141
Come on True OP, don't let these cunts bamboozle us
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Would it be cool, a vid with some Kiss solos made 12 bar blues?
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>>71464045
every part of that sounds gross
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>>71464053
How?

>>71464045
Damn it was supposed to post on /gg/, wrong tab. Sorry guys this doesnt belong here
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>>71463560
Cheers, appreciate it. Definitely feel like the track needs something else, not sure what though.

>https://clyp.it/l4lznztl
Here's some dnb, again, needs something but i don't know what...
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>>71464060
because kiss sucks and 12 bar blues is a boring format
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>>71464071
Ace Frehley solos on the 70s albums are cool
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>>71464070
Some sort of higher register synth line doing solo-y stuff would add a bit of character. Maybe try introducing it later on, 2:00 onwards. I would also look into some sort of clean reverb for it, make it stand out a bit.
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What is the best PC DAW? Reaper? I'm starting to hate Cubase.
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>>71463539
Because of the accent or something in the voice?
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>>71464219
what's wrong with cubase? reaper is pretty similar to it
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>>71464261
Reaper seems to be lighter on the CPU
Has the ability to easily draw the volume (and pitch, speed and other things) in the track spectrum
The downside i see is its much shittier to use midi instruments, Ezdrummer etc
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>>71464282
you can totally draw automation in cubase, just check out the different automation modes and tools
the midi editor in reaper is really similar to cubase, except for the score editor
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>>71464318
Yeah theres automation but it is in a separate automation track, for track volume and plugins values. You cant adjust the actual audio volume easily like on Reaper or ProTools.
To the audio, you can only do fade in/out and adjust the entire audio volume. You'd have to split each part you want to change volume, much shittier.
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>>71464351
for clip gain envelope just draw with the pencil tool right on the waveform just as in protools
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>>71464229
Both the accent and the fact that you are often drifting out of key. If you can't hear it (and you should be able to) then you need to start listening to your vocals a lot more carefully after recording, and in context with the instruments you're recording them next to.
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>>71433597
Yo none of the first four links in the pastebin work anymore, help a brother out

>>71461231
Keys no longer have inate emotional responses thanks to equal temparament. What you need to think about is if there is a singer, what key does their voice sound best in, and what key do the instruments you're using sound best in/are easiest to play in
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