Why do electronic albums age so horribly?

>>71427134
All albums are electronic.

Did you mean ambient techno or another actual genre specifically?

>>71427159
electronicA

>>71427159
fucking asperger

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>>71427159
>All albums are electronic.

>>71427171
No it doesn't say that.

>>71427159
what

>>71427134
couldn't find a less related picture anon

>>71427207
That is the correction

>>71427171
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>>71427386
hello tumblr

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>>71427386
Takes electronic production to produce an album. Every one of them is electronic

Its not a genre you dumb cunts

>>71427782
i did not say it was a genre you dumb cunt but its pretty obvious that not every album is electronic

>>71427782
>albums didn't exist before computers became mainstream

>>71427777
(You)

I think the reason it seems that way is because new drum machines and synths are always coming out, certain sounds become over saturated for a certain period time, and when you hear those sounds it can make the music feel really dated. I feel like this is less and less of a problem the more we move away from analog gear and I also think if the album doesn't use the sound palette as some kind of gimmick you can get over it and enjoy it for what it is.

>>71427807
Yes they are. Electronic production is the definition of electronic music.

>>71427808
What'd they record them with, paper cups and string between the 2?

>>71427886
Magnetic tape you underage retard.

>>71427886
are phonograph cylinders electronically produced you mug

>>71427915
>tape music
>not electronic

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>>71427993
wtf does cage have to do with tape music you dumbass

>>71427846
I agree about some of it being the gear (DX7 & Linndrum etc stand out on 80s records etc) but I think moving away from analog has actually made it worse.
A million tracks all using the amen/think breaks sound like shit now because of it, and wobwob brostep all sounds like the same 6 Massive patches because it is

>>71427925
are they albums? no fuckface! :D

>>71427134
Production gets old, it depends on The synths, percussion anda textures used, for example i think SAW 85-92 aged really bad, but SAW 2 sounds almost timeless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0q1gCsZykg

still a banger what are you saying

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>tfw this record is over 20 years old

>>71427134
>Why do electronic albums age so horribly?
If you consider this album the pinnacle of electronic music, I understand why you'd have that opinion.

>>71428755
Especially musique concrete, hip hop and synthpop

Electronic musicians take whatever subgenre is trendy, beat it to the ground and exaggerate it until it's a parody of itself, and then move on to the next trend. So most electronic tracks represent a very specific time and place.

>>71428773
>>71428788

I was actually thinking of trance, vaporwave and brostep.

>>71428805
>I was actually thinking of trance, vaporwave and brostep.
Highly innovative and influential genres, right? This thread is horrible.

>>71428805
Ambient too

>>71428820
they actually are though???? better than the garbage /bleep/ jerks off to

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>>71427159
>All albums are electronic.
>>71427782
>Takes electronic production to produce an album. Every one of them is electronic
>>71427886
>Electronic production is the definition of electronic music.
>What'd they record them with, paper cups and string between the 2?
>>71427993
>tape music
>not electronic

>>71427134
Yeah, SAW has aged horribly but you can't tell me anything from 1996 on sounds bad. RDJA still holds up well and anything Autechre from 2001 on sounds great.

just listen to the remasters?

>>71428901
Not an argument.

>>71428901
All this post does is show how dumb you are.

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>>71429198
>Not an argument.

>>71427134
that album aged well id say. die antwoord rapped over one of the instrumentals and most people who listen to die antwoord probably wouldnt have suspected its an instrumental from 1992.

>>71429239
People who unironically listen to rap don't have a say on production quality or anything else really.

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>aged horribly
pleb criticism
sorry you can't appreciate goat retro aesthetic
youre missing out on the comfiest genre ever

>>71427159
This is autism.
>>71427134
A lot of electronic music exists due to trend hopping.
>>71428788
>>71427846
These two give your question a fair response.

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>>71428626
Are there albums by other artists that capture the same moments? Like in the songs "Further" or "Glitch"?

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>>71428425
how can a sound age? in which ways does time make it decay? SAW still sounds like it's from the future which makes your claim of it having "aged badly" even more bogus.

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>>71427134
>ironically posting one of the best albums in the genre and one that aged fantastically

>>71430900
they intend that saw couldn't be released today.

>>71430955
I agree with stuff like breakcore or happy hardcore hasn't aged well, but they never were good in the first place

>>71430938
Which genre?

Oh you must mean techno since "electronic" is a production method, not a genre.

The bait shoppe

>>71427134
This album is still beast wtf are you on about

>>71431299
"Electronic" refers to the instruments you mongoloid, you are trying to be pedantic but you fail to understand simple context.

>>71431401
Do you post about string music (rock, reggae, funk, metal etc...) and brass music (jazz, ska etc...) all in one too?

>>71431437
what's the genre that you would group big beat, techno? same as you can group punk, metal and progressive rock into the rock genre?

>>71431437
Yes, music made without electronic devices is called acoustic music.

if it's produced entirely on a computer it can be considered electronic. Calling it or not calling a genre doesn't matter once you accept that it's a meaningful label.

>>71431472
Techno is techno.

Big beat is breaks.

Not sure the problem there?

>>71431506
Well I listened to a techno album earlier with piano in it too, guess that's no longer electronic music.

It was techno though, a standalone 35 year old vet expansive genre.

>>71428398
Definition of album
1
a : a book with blank pages used for making a collection (as of autographs, stamps, or photographs)
b : a cardboard container for a phonograph record : jacket
c : one or more recordings (as on tape or disc) produced as a single unit a 2-CD album
2
: a collection usually in book form of literary selections, musical compositions, or pictures : anthology

>>71431499
We should have lots of those threads, /acoustic/ generals and put Slayer, Bob Marley and Mingus altogether.

>>71431551
Yeah, it's techno with both electronic and acoustic instruments, what's your point? You are trying to be cheeky and le clever but you are just coming off as a complete idiot.
Please stop posting.

>>71431518
I know but you can say
punk is rock
metal is rock
ska is rock
techno is ____
house is _____
trance is______

>>71431589
But it's not electronic music anymore right, by your definition because of the piano. The techno album isn't electronic music. Confusing.

>>71431613
Techno is techno
House is house
Trance is trance

Each are 35 year old varied genres, the same as rock was by 1990. Unless rock wasn't a distinctive separate genre on 1990 either?

>>71431632
It uses both electronic and acoustic instruments so that means it falls under both umbrellas you idiot.
Stop posting already.

>>71431679
Okay. Just clarifying that techno isn't electronic music now.

It's bizarre really, may be life would be easier without silly electronic word and just call it what is, techno, pianos or not.

>>71431666
ok satan
but genres have subgenres
and you could argue that techno, house, trance and many others are subgenres of something

>>71431748
You could argue rock is a subgenre too.

>>71431717
How did you come to that fucking nonsensical conclusion?
Are you really this mad at OP for using the term "electronic" to refer to all music made with electronic instruments which is perfectly fine considering the context of the thread?

>>71431763
maybe yeah
western popular music and electronic music is a subgenre of that too
like death, black, doom, etc are subgenres of metal

>>71431776
I came to it by the discussion I was having where i was told if it includes non-electronic instruments it's no longer electronic music and since it was a techno album with piano, the techno album is no longer electronic music. That was his/your explanation.

>>71431717
why are you being so pedantic? you know exactly what we mean by 'electronic music'

>>71431784
And metal is a rock subgenre which is a strong music subgenre which is an acoustic music subgenre.

Much easier to say metal instead of acoustic though huh, but like saying techno instead of electronic, cuts to the point of discussion better don't you think.

techno is a style
electronic is the genre
so SAW is an electronic music album in the ambient techno style and it is really good and has aged like the finest wine

>>71431837
Yes, everything since 1940 using electronic instruments from musique concrete to hip hop, synthpop to Eurodance.

>>71431825
I'm not him, he's also an idiot like you.

"Electronic" isn't even a genre, it simply refers to how the music was made and there's no rule telling you how many electronic instruments a track needs to use to be considered electronic music.

Everyone in this thread is retarded except for me.

>>71431917
stop being difficult you dumb cunt

>>71431890
Techno is the genre.
Electronic is the means of production.

Metal is the genre.
Acoustic is the means of production.

>>71431918
I know it's not a genre, that's what I said.

>>71431931
If you want to talk about say, Slayer, would you ask about acoustic music? String music?

>>71431992
If the thread is about acoustic music in general (like the current thread is about all electronic music) then yeah sure why not.

>>71431992
why do you care so much

>>71432028
Never happens and do you really think that's a good way to discuss jazz, rock, reggae, funk, blues and gamelan, lumping all those different, unrelated genres altogether like that because it's acoustic?

>>71432036
You're right, I'll go post in the techno thread, no wait, the house one, no the breaks one, oh shit there aren't any because every genre that was made with instruments that have plugs are lumped into one.

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>>71432077
Because the thread is about all music made with electronic instruments, it has nothing to do with specific genres.

>>71432122
Except hip hop of course, but then that's shit.

>>71432146
And it's awful.

>>71428298
>A million tracks all using the amen/think breaks sound like shit now because of it, and wobwob brostep all sounds like the same 6 Massive patches because it is
This is the major problem with this type of music, people simply buy the technology and don't do anything interesting with it.

>>71432171
That doesn't matter, your retardation is just as awful, you sound like some otherkin tumblrette.

>>71432191
It does matter though, it shows exactly how retarded it is.

>>71432219
Not for your retarded reasons.

I think it's pretty clear that OP is talking about not just what he might perceive to be an "electronic genre" but all music made with electronic instruments in general, there's no mention of beats per minute or styles or anything, just "electronic" which is a valid umbrella term.

>>71432122
Here you go

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>>71432280
>>71431917
That's a LOT of very different music.

>>71432329
So? That's not relevant at all and your damage control is pathetic.

>>71432310
That will 404 without actual music discussion because no one knows anything about breaks, just "electronic music" (read the 25 albums from the essentials)

>>71431890
A lot of music had some electronic element to it, doesn't mean it's the genre electronic
See: hip hop, industrial, metal, minimalism, etc.

>>71432346
Except it is relevant.

How would the board go if all acoustic music from Bach to Fugazi, Bob Marley to Kate Bush was in ONE thread only?

>>71432402
That's like saying videogames shouldn't be differentiated from real-life games with a simple umbrella term because there are thousands of game genres, it makes no sense.

>>71432459
It's like saying breaks and ambient ("electronic") are as different as reggae and metal ("acoustic"). Which they are obviously.

>>71432516
Sure they are, but they are still both electronic music.

>>71432537
And reggae and metal are both acoustic music but you don't see threads about the together (along with all other acoustic genres) so why would you do it with 80 years of electronically produced music?

>>71431878
This is a fair point. I only say I like "rock" if talking to someone whose musical knowledge is impossible to gauge. Or an old person.

>>71432581
Because the thread is about production methods aka how the sound was made.
OP is implying that music made electronically doesn't age well and that's all there is to it, like I said before it has nothing to do with beats per minute or styles.

>>71432612
Exactly, but this is a music specific board so I don't get it.

>>71432183
Absolutely, and actually I think it's because the technology allows so much freedom. Constraints can be a good thing. Any modern DAW is a blank slate capable of anything, which sounds great but can be paralyzing unless you just mimic someone else, the easiest way to constrain yourself.

>>71430146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs896K_2rp0

>>71430146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNXyUUsk2pw


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