/classical/

Music history copypasta (1/3)

You could read the wikipedia articles about classical music and its epoches, but they are heaviely edited by feminists. Find some good books instead.
The yale course on youtube gives you a foundation about music theory if you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_yOVARO2Oc
Then it's just listen, listen and listen. You find some youtube links below from the most famous composers.

Impressionism and Modern
>Paul Dukas - L'apprenti sorcier (The sorcerers apprentice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRAPm-r_7P0
>Claude Debussy - Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un faune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvnRC7tSX50
>Igor Stravinsky - Le sacre du printemps (The rite of spring)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wK8fSkjOy0
>Maurice Ravel - Bolero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK23BhEQVyU
>Benjamin Britten - The young person's guide to the orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vbvhU22uAM
>Sergei Prokofiev - Dance of the Knights (from Romeo and Juliet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ

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Oh, so I'm a little sissy buttboy faggot for liking Glinka, huh? Here, I got something for ya!!

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Late Romantic
>Richard Strauss - Also sprach Zarathustra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RdZ7rO_cr0
>Antonin Dvorak - Symphony No. 9 From the new world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6sZlBF4Gvk
>Giuseppe Verdi - Messa da Requiem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PdcmFvZvuI
>Johannes Brahms - Ein deutsches Requiem (German Requiem)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJelOS-fjrY
>Jean Sibelius - Finlandia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOSaT6U4e-8
>Pyotr Tchaikovsky - 1812 Overture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8
>Bedrich Smetana - Ma vlast (My homeland)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrkxiF-9L40
>Camille Saint-Saens - Le carnaval des animaux (Carneval of the animals)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LOFhsksAYw
>Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov - Scheherazade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNymNaTr-Y
>Modest Mussorgsky - Pictures at an exhibition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXy50exHjes
>Franz Liszt - Piano Concerto No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZWGCfy-dTY
>Edvard Grieg - Peer Gynt Suite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2iOwhNrPwY
>Richard Wagner - Overture Tannhäuser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk

Early Romantic
>Hector Berlioz - Symphonie fantastique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK6iAxe0oEc
>Frederic Chopin - Piano Concerto No. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_GecdMywPw
>Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy - Ein Sommernachtstraum (A midsummer night's dream)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDvZaMl4RU (Overture)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njdTB6HxTj8
>Franz Schubert - Der Erlkönig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XP5RP6OEJI
>Robert Schuman - Piano Concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynky7qoPnUU
>Carl-Maria von Weber - Konzertstück in f minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VgpqpT4qM4

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Classic
>Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 Eroica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRev2uRd5o
>Wolfgang Mozart - Serenade for 13 winds Gran partita
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUACDnehZFU
>Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach - Symphony in B minor Wq. 182/5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ebIU0VZZnk
>Franz Joseph Haydn - Symphony No. 59 Feuer (Fire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNhmhBp8uSw
>Christoph Willibald Gluck - Don Juan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htcZi40V5oo

Baroque
>Johann Sebastian Bach - Violin Concerto BWV 1041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRllIryq4fA
>Tomaso Albinoni - 12 concertos Op. 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODhNU0hi8CU
>Heinrich Ignaz Franz Biber von Bibern - Battalia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9DJpaxT7wg
>Georg Friedrich Handel - Zadok the priest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9Uudkx42g
>Jean Baptiste Lully - Te deum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iYiY-tDWOA
>Johann Pachelbel - Meme canon in D Major
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvNQLJ1_HQ0
>Giovanni Battista Pergolesi - Stabat mater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzOmPUu-F_M
>Henry Purcell - Dido and Aeneas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhYP2QnwWbg
>Jean-Philippe Rameau - Suite d'orchestre Les indes galantes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cikQnkWaMI8
>Georg Philipp Telemann - Tafelmusik Production 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laexHA-COFI
>Antonio Vivaldi - L'estro armonico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_e8TVDQzwA

>>71404076
How about the fun fact that Brahms was a fuccboi that got passed around by horny sailors in his youth?

Is LOTR soundtrack the greatest tribute to Wagner ever written?

>>71404289
>extended use of leitmotif
>narrative epic
>white supremacist kino
Yes.

>>71404076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxekKeqsyz8

Claudio Arrau on Brahms

Who else /studyingformidterms/ and listening to music all day?

>go listen to Wagner on youtube
>comment section full of /pol/

>>71404715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoU-iCT21fc
Goyim

>>71404715
>listening to Wagner
Fuck off racist

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>>71404747
KEK

>>71404747
>you'll never be a world renowned conductor that triggers thousands of jews by conducting Wagner at Israel

Johannes Brahms-(1833-1897), famous German composer, sexually abused by prostitutes in a bar, which his parents used as his “child care” facility. He performed piano in the bar and was molested there in a years-long pattern of abuse. Late in life he confessed his inability to relate to women or to perform sexually. In the book THE UNKNOWN BRAHMS, he suggested that his general hostility towards women (he had very few female friends and never married, though he was evidently heterosexual) was from the abuse he endured from women when he was a child.

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Slight, blond, and beautiful, the young teenager spent nightmare evenings at the piano, surrounded by drunken sailors and prostitutes who made him witness sexual and violent acts. They would even undress him and pass him around the room to be fondled as they pleased.

Brahms was profoundly affected by three years of these emotionally maiming experiences. Psychologically and spiritually wounded, he was sent to live with a relative in the countryside to recover. There he discovered the beauty of nature and was able to bury the trauma. But he was left with emotional and physical scars: He remained small and underdeveloped into his late twenties. He had no facial hair and looked like a lovely blond boy, undoubtedly mortifying for a young man trying to make it in the world as a composer and pianist.

The profound psychological polarities in Brahms's personality and the traumatic experiences of his youth influenced his life choices. He could not reconcile his discomfort at being constrained by any system or relationship with having a bourgeois lifestyle, wife, children, and steady job. Despite the large amounts of money he earned, he was frugal to a fault. His home was modest. He ate in the cheapest restaurants and dressed like a vagrant, with a large safety pin holding his coat together.

>>71404837
my wife Bramhs is so cute

Anyone have that Gesualdo "Don't talk to me or my nephew ever again" pic?

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>>71404748

>tfw this actually happened to me at a pub when casually talking about music with a leftist

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>>71404941

>>71405140
s-sorry

>>71405055
>listening to classical music
>not being racist
Pick one

>>71405285

I actually am a racist though, so I guess he was right.

>>71405140

top kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZdgEafhEL0

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>>71405055
>tfw almost no one knows that Wagner regretted deeply his anti-semitic and nationalist phase
>tfw he went from being an anarchist to being a proto-fascist to being a traditional socialist

Nazis really ruined Wagner for us.

lads, is it okay if I dived into Bach before listening much to the more famous composers (e.g. Mozart Beethoven) ?

>>71406028
*your

>>71406043

source?

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>>71404748

>be wagner
>spend life attempting to bring higher beauty to music
>move to paris
>jew producers play pop music to entertain the plebs
>write long treatise condemning producers for pushing soulless music, and offering ideas on how to bring beauty back to art
>wanna-be intellectuals analyzing the text write hundreds of papers on muh anti-semitism while ignoring the main thesis of the paper

I like Schnittke,

>>71406086
bach is better than those composers though

which bourree is best?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSg8t4zyLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2RNe2jwHE0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Kyap5BTfo

>>71406043
You mean how he found Jesus? Why not just say that instead of making stuff up. I know you commies hate Christ more than anything in the world, but you don't have to twist history.

>>71404076
What classical music would you reccomend to someone who likes gothic music and neo-classical metal?

>>71406438
There is literally nothing wrong with being antisemitic

>>71406684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPEQkwVjPM

>>71406724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiIrtPemmBs

>>71406418
He had plenty of Jewish friends on his life, and rumours floated that he was of Jewish ancestry (rumours that he himself didn't bother denying or anything and some accounts defend that he himself was the source of these rumours).
It's also worth nothing that he just voiced some of the most common viewpoints of the XIXth century, if you look for it in their letters, there's barely not a single composer that doesn't shit up on jews at least once, that doesn't mean they wanted to go full "race war gas the jews", that association only comes with Wagner because Hitler was too much of a fanboy.

I'm not the guy you quoted but I recall reading that he mellowed out on his late years, but I can't seem to recall a source right now.

>>71406846

>that doesn't mean they wanted to go full "race war gas the jews"

Indeed, I haven't actually read the paper he wrote on the jews but as far as I know all he said was that they made shitty music.

>>71407152
His biggest issue with the Jews was from the perspective of their non-integration into society, not to mention their God, Yahweh, was entirely antithetical to many of his own philosophical beliefs.

>>71406043
>it was just a phase adi! - wagner talking to hitler in purgatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=955RrJs5uFo

Bach

>>71407549
>bog
>counterpoint
>harpsichord
>woman
>comic sans

VERY nice link.

Any uplifting or inspirational pieces?

>>71407859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzqaFWyUL2U

>>71407859
Mahler 2 and 3
They're slow burners but the finales are about as inspirational as you can possibly get

Did Bach ever write something like the beginning chorus of Johannes-Passion, but for more than 10 minutes?

>>71407208

Sounds reasonable to me.

classical approved tv shows
other than mozart in the jungle and nodame cuntisvile

>>71408945

No tv shows are /classical/ approved.
Documentaries are the way of the patrician.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdmgN2UU_iA

>>71409008
who else didn't realize it was a gaffe untile 1:24:36 in

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If Gesualdo hadn't killed his wife, significantly less people would know of his music

sometimes artistry isn't enough

>>71409057

Well shit. Torrent it, it's pretty good. The scene where the dude plays bagpipe in his old castle to "fill the walls with music" to please his ghost is kino.

>>71409099

True, I wonder how many people wrote crazy music that is forgotten now because they didn't murder someone.

>>71409156
>murder
It was a completely justified killing

>>71409230

Still a pretty brutal murder, though. Justified or not.

>>71409008
>Gesualdo is also known for his behavior characteristic of possible mental illness, including lewdness, violence, and sadism
>lewdness
Wait is being lewd a mental illness?

>>71409254
It's not murder if it's a justified and lawful killing.

>>71409312
>Wait is being lewd a mental illness?
in your case, yes.

>>71409312

Dude was clearly what we would called bipolar today or something similar. Lewdness is not a mental illness on it's own, no. That's why it is not listed as the sole reaosn either.

>>71409099
I didn't know that and I love Gesauldo

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>>71409376

>>71409378
rude, i'm not that lewd

>>71406815
Yes! Thank you so much! I've very much been wanting to get into Bach!

>>71409418
It isn't.

"Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought."

>>71409506
>killing of another human without justification

There is never justification.

Telemann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mQkhwpMzJk

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>>71409550

There are PLENTY of justifications, you libtard.

>>71409573
Not one (1).

>>71409573
Only self-defense.

>>71409550
God literally said there is zero (0) reason not to slay an adulterer.

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>>71409638

How would you try to deal with ISIS then? Rehabilitate them? What about an invading force? Just give away your land and throw up your hands? What self-defence?

>>71409721
You still have not come up with a single defensible justification for murder.

>>71409746

Yes I have. Stop living in a fantasy world, there are plenty of bad people in this world that need to die.

>>71409771
You do not get to decide who lives and who dies. Only the logos decides that.

>>71409803

I'm not in the business of killing people either, just pointing out the obvious retardation of your statement.

>>71409844
Who has the moral authority to decide? If not you, why should anyone else?

>>71409868

>moral relativism

Yeah no, I'm sorry but it's obvious to anyone who is not on their high horse that terrorists and other people that are a threat to society need to be put down like the rabid dogs that they are.

Who conducts The Rite of Spring the best?

>>71409924
That isn't moral relativism.

>>71409962

To claim that no one has any real moral authority, yes I believe it is.

>>71409949
The composer, obviously.

>>71409949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrMGqAmjbug
Stravinsky

>>71409949
Markevitch.

>>71410028
fug wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq7hQeRyA4g

>>71410083
Why was Stravinsky so fuggo?
Brahms was so much cuter.

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>>71410163
rach was a qt too

>>71410198
>Stravinsky
>authentic
>>>authenticity
lmao. Pierre Monteux does a good job.

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stavinskys dick

>>71410268
Cute slav genes.

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Why was Bernstein so hot

>>71410198
It's a ballet, it's only authentic if it is in a ballet theatre with dancers, not a recording. Also Strav wasn't such a hot conductor and the orchestras he worked with often weren't up to the music.

>>71409683
Which one?

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Anyone got anything like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVi5Pzjjs0
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoZJdil0_HI

except not shitty?

Why do people always clap the second a classical performance is done? It really ruins the endings of pieces

>>71409949

Mother nature and horny teens

>>71410769
Live performances in general aren't meant to sound perfect; people go partially for the showmanship and theatre aspect of it

It took Zimerman over 100 takes to get his recording of Liszt's B minor sonata how he wanted it; that's obviously not going to be possible live anyway

>>71410829
Even if technically it's not perfect, no recording can emulate the feeling of an actual performance.

>>71410769
Release of tension.

>>71410925
silence is release of tension

>>71411192
Not if you've been silent for an hour.

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What's the greatest meme song?

>>71411327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

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>>71411361

audibly keked when i realized what it was

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>>71411421

I don't get it...

>>71411769
petzold

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>>71411786

Oh, of course.
God damn it.

Memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX7CDkrYDZk

http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/antigona/recent/

What does /classical/ think of this?

>>71412033
literally just avant-teen version of SDF

>>71411796

Original Vaporwave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDZc9bdUZM

set to 0.5 speed for shits and giggles

>>71410914
>Even if technically it's not perfect, no recording can emulate the feeling of an actual performance.
Exactly this. Watching a performance adds a totally different layer to it. In a good theatre, it's almost like you can touch the music. To me, at least, it's completely mesmerizing.

>>71412234
Even if you're seated in the mezzanine?

>>71412270
What do you mean by that

>>71410769
Because they want to be seen as being able to fully appreciate the piece.

The first one to stand up wants to be the first.

>>71412338
An unhappy person.

Blue pill me on Part
i've never seen the matrix

Fasch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3DTi9DsQsY

>>71412889

*Trash

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@71412907
(You)

@71412929

>"u"

>>71413123
that's an oxymoron

Best Schubert Trout?

Richter + Borodin quartet for starters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEtjB4darUk&list=PLZBBWxS3mBv-q5BLRZ2hIB95QcJCkFw8v

Graun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI0tMq8mb0w

>>71413150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhfL1pCto9Q

>>71404187
>te deum

Why does everyone praise this so much? I appreciate the gesture but in my opinion there are several pieces that represent Lully much better. Thanks though.

>>71406846
Would still like a credible source m8

>>71413817
It's because Lully fucked his own foot up conducting the Te Deum which led to his death

>>71406684
first one

>>71414024
I know but I just don't see why that makes it so important to be an introductory piece. I don't even care for it that much to be honest, but this recording is probably the best one I've heard. Like I said, he has better music I think.

>>71414314
It's the go-to piece for dilettantes to recommend. Try his Isis then

>>71414314
Not him but what would you recommend then? I would assume one of his operas but I'm not terribly familiar with any of them.

Nancarrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwUiscAVn4

>>71413817
>>71414024
>>71414314

I'm reworking the copypasta btw, open to suggestions

I'm going to change the J.S. Bach and Tchaikovsky pieces

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>>71415124
1. You're missing a huge chunk of early Baroque, see pic
2. never fucking rec the canon you stupid cunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bof_0yy0Qb8
3. Where's Buxtehude? Where's Corelli? Where's Marais? Where's Zelenka?
4. Why is Handel on it? Why is Pergolesi on it? Why is Albinoni on it?

>>71415124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCMkrSb1k4
Bach

Can someone rec me some music?

>>71415413
Look around you.

>>71415437
maybe some specific pieces?

>>71415413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa5EhAZie3M

>>71415299

It wasn't my copypasta, but I think I'm the last person with a copy of it

>>71415413

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1igVj3w8KE

>>71415486
Not something I'd listen to that often, but I enjoyed some of it

>>71415763
What thread do you think this is?

>>71415861

if you don't specify what you want, don't complain about what you get

>>71415960
I thought posting in /classical/ was enough of a specification. Thanks though :) Any recs for classical stuff? Some of my favourite composers are Reich, Haas, Bartok, Rautavaara, and Cage.

>>71416098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHotBM4FH0U

>>71415124
You need a medieval/renaissance section

Who is your go-to conductor? For me, it's Harnoncourt.

>>71416168
That was great! Thank you :) I really need to listen to more Sibelius

>>71415299
>Why is Handel on it?
What is with the sudden Handel hate?

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>>71416098
Listen to Mozart you pleb.

>>71414434
I've heard the overture but nothing else from it, will give it a listen sometime.

>>71415124
That's a tough call because he has several pieces I like. If I had to choose one singular work it would be between one of these three:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmNAvgQ9ZjY&index=2&list=PLanoolzETJ64qCOi1l8LUYR3c3rVEiYNr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKrMv1HnMTM&index=3&list=PLanoolzETJ64qCOi1l8LUYR3c3rVEiYNr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUH9XZYp7H8&index=24&list=PLanoolzETJ64qCOi1l8LUYR3c3rVEiYNr

>>71414500
It's a tough decision personally. Again regarding his operas because he wrote so many great works, including:

Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme
Atys
Acis et Galatee
Bellerophon
Armide
Ballet des Arts

I would give links but I just checked and they all have been either deleted or made private but there are still some other individual recordings available, sorry.

>>71416204
this

>Where's Buxtehude? Where's Corelli? Where's Marais?
I agree, but I thought what Dowland wrote is considered Renaissance? Also I always laugh when I see the emo meme

>>71417079
meant for
>>71415299

>>71417112
That pic is just to indicate the inception of the baroque era, not an indication of baroque music as a whole. Composers with much more "baroque" sounds are included in the second part of that chart, which is WIP at the moment.

I see

>>71417527
>>71417278
fuck did it again, I may need to call it a night

>>71417527
what do you see anon?

>>71416434
>not listening to Schiff and Vegh
wow, faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ410iu5rRs

>>71416434
I like reading his scores, but I don't like actively listening to his music that much (with the exception of some operas and later works). It's really well constructed though, interesting to read

>>71417569
The light, and boobies.

>>71417800
pleb

>>71418502
Can you elaborate?

Let's settle this
http://www.strawpoll.me/12473692

>>71413150
Yudina/Beethoven Quartet has remarkable energy

What is the Handel piece with harpsichord and voice? I think there is an oboe in it as well. I think it's a concerto and has Andreas Scholl singing but I can't fucking remember. I've been trying to find it and another Handel piece for a while now and I can't and it's driving me fucking crazy.

Ives' 4th symphony is absolutely delicious. It's a big mishmash of themes and chaotic ideas which really shouldn't work together, but somehow they deny that logic, and not only synthesize with one another, but elevate themselves.

I'll never hear Yankee Doodle the same way again

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post only avant-gardists who weren't hacks
I'll start

>>71420050
what is your definition of avant garde?

>>71404127
recc me some book senpai

>>71420781
Petzold's diary, desu

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I've never really listened to much music before, but over the last few weeks I've had classic fm on at work since I got a nice radio for Christmas. I've developed the opinion that the cello is the nicest sounding instrument I've ever heard. What are your favourite pieces of music prominently featuring the cello?

>>71419249
Anyone got any ideas? I know it's not much to go by but if you could help me out I would be forever grateful.

>>71419095

I couldn't take the gummy strings, their technique isn't adequate to maintain that tempo.

>>71421398
Don Quixote by Strauss

>>71421398
The cello part at bars 56 and 57 always gets me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnDmycfIweI

>>71421398
Dvorak Cello Concerto in B minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJSlmoXpzfM
Bach Cello Suites obvi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsYdeSqqyd4
Dvorak's Piano Quartet in Eb has a beautiful solo in the second movement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMouaEUqZyk
Borodin Quartet 2 Movement 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTPrcBAq28Q
Debussy Cello Sonata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJ33aN63Fs

>>71421398
Bach's cello suites
https://youtu.be/MFHV85kmRhI (Janigro)
https://youtu.be/8UlXZkKBIew (Harnoncourt)

Brahms cello sonata no. 1
https://youtu.be/9XiYrzsgWto

Elgar's cello concerto
https://youtu.be/pvuhw-C0MjU (Webber)
https://youtu.be/f_Xg7JZcyIk (du Pre)

>>71421398
the 2nd movement of Schumann's 4th symphony has a cello/oboe duet but you should totally listen to the whole thing because it's great and also transitions between movements are seamless so you should listen to the entire thing anyway

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This is a WIP from a piece I'm writing. Can anyone confirm for me that this cello part is playable?

>>71421984
I don't remember how to read music, but I think it's so neat that some people posting here are attempting to compose new music. Are you a music student?

>>71422111
I took a couple years off from high school, I'm auditioning for a jazz bachelor program right now. This is for a project I'm going to put out on a label I'm starting this summer.

>>71422216
That's so neat. I hope you get accepted. What's your label going to be called?

>>71422263
Thank you so much :) I applied to two different programs, my vocal audition is this week, and my piano one is at the end of the month.

I'm playing around with a few ideas. I know the logo is going to be this picture of a happy eggplant my friend drew, so I want the name to reflect that. Something like elated eggplant or auspicious aubergine. Any ideas?

>>71421664
>>71421757
>>71421794
>>71421841
>>71421942
Neat

>>71422307
Missa melongena

>>71421984
Yep, that looks fine to me.

One thing though; you might not want to go all the way down to the low C and G at bar 25; the player would have to play on open strings, and that means no vibrato (which might be a problem for a long note like that)

also, add in the bowing markings

>>71422462
:) What would missa mean in this context?

>>71422501
Yes, I'll add more markings when I've finished the piece. What's the downside to no vibrato on long notes? Is it worth putting the C up an octave?

>>71422562
Eggplant mass, I don't know, only musical reference I could come up with.

>>71422575
It's not a problem if you're happy for the sound to be very uniform and flat in character. Otherwise, usually a performer might like to break up the long monotony of the note with a bit of expressive vibrato

>>71422623
I don't think I mind a flat sound, but I should probably write that the other held notes are to be played without vibrato for uniformity

>>71422615
I like it. Added to my list of potential names :)

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>be Beethoven
>be Beethoven in your last 20 years of life
>tfw you're 100% sure that you're the best composer in the world and virtually everyone is agreeing with you
>die as a legend

Damn, it must have felt good.

>>71422715
>wanting to die not knowing that you're a hack

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>>71422715
This makes me imagine about all the unwritten symphonies of Beethoven.

>>71423109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKoE1f7evDA

>that first theme
>tfw we won't ever know what the 4th movement sounds like

Thoughts on Libera?

not pedo btw

Petzold

Why doesn't /mu/ like Romantic music?
I get that Baroque is more impressive from a musician's point of view, but still

>>71424221
Because it's popular.

>>71424221
It's vulgar, tasteless crap.

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>tfw you listen to Bach under the influence of powerful nootropics

>>71422715

Except he also had plenty of emotional problems and was fucking deaf

>>71423367
>TOOOOOOOT
>TOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNINININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININININI
>CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGCLANGGGGGGGGGCLANGGGGGGGGGG

>>71424347

Right on my dude! Let's get some more high brow in this thread:

http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=_Ka289l3W0Q&video_start=0&audio=k-Tw1sqzkfk&audio_start=6

>>71421410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRGq-ZreOSU

>>71424773

kek

Petzold

>>71424723
It's a Beethonen's symphinic opening. What were you expecting, a fugue?

>>71424420
I think that being the best composer in your lifetime and, arguably, one of the top 5 composers in history makes up for that.

>>71421578
The Beethoven Quartet was getting on in years, yes, but it's still more than serviceable, in my opinion

Mozart is raised from the dead for one afternoon. He only has time to listen to three songs of your choosing.
Which 3 songs do you pick for him to listen, /classical/?

>>71426278

I would play him 3 songs myself on the banjo.

>>71426278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeGYpFLAq1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD_wPFPMOLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuuiFuuT4o

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>>71426453

>this is legal

>>71426278
when u were young u were the king of carrot flowers

suckin on my ding dong

probably some grimes song to see if he agrees with the memes

>>71424773
I was not talking about that autistic crap either, I was talking of course about the literal peak of human aesthetics in all media, classicism.

>>71426595

http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=5y2Rq00vTs8&video_start=19&audio=NIaTXbHLsxY&audio_start=2

Better?

>>71426278
Three Kanye songs picked entirely at random.

This is incredible. Early English renaissance a best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnehurou-JA

>>71426278
>>71426278

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUphbx-Tu0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRkP-rplNjs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsxarkI-3XQ

Songs fit for a scatbilly.

>still no books reccs
halp, i want to get into classical

>>71427394
The Oxford History of Western Music. Come back once you've got through it and we'll give you some more recs

>>71427394
Rosen's The Classical Style

What's good music for that feel when you're taking a good shit but it gets ruined when the premium log falls off 3/4 enroute to the bowl and you have to spent 10 minutes getting that last 1/4 mini shit log out

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>>71427795
any of wagner's 4 million pieces which spend 4 hours leaping from dissonance to dissonance without resolving

does /mu/ autistically dislike chopin?

Can anyone recommend me anything that sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM_1m8ZgdJw

Yes I know
>video game music
but it's really comfy.

>>71428063

google "generic relaxing piano music for meditation and homework classical supreme mix for passive listening studying 12 hour mix #relaxing #soundsgood #meditation #concentration"

>>71428063
it's not that it's >video game music, it's that it's bland and generic.

>>71428102

and i'm not even joking with this post, if you google exactly that or youtube that, you will find exactly what you are looking for.

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>>71428063

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>>71428063
mfw

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>>71428063
this is the sartorial equivalent of your music taste

characterless and homogenised

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>>71428063

>>71428063
phillip glass :^)

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>>71428516
>watch "Mishima: A Life In Four Chapters" recently
>pure kino
>actually liked the music
>music by: Philip Glass

>>71413969
The most I can find is sources saying that he repudied most of his earlier works around the same time he started writing Parsifal but nothing concrete, so it's likely that for some reason I jumped to conclusions.

>>71428063
Einaudi I guess, but he's not worth listening to
You've got shit taste, mate. Listen to Beethoven instead

>>71421398
Platti
Zani
Lanzetti

>>71428760
I remember reading somewhere (but I can't find the source anymore, therefore take it with a pinch of salt) that he attributed his antisemitism in his youth to the fact that there was a massive Jewish immigration from Western Europe and people were not ready yet to accept them.

I'm 99% sure it's a Wagner quote, but I can't remember the source (I'm almost sure it was contained in one of his later letters, later on I'll check them and tell you if I can find it).

Cosima, btw, was a hardcore antisemite, way more than Richard.

>>71421398
Boccherini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtpPPG2WtZo

Is it worth it to watch Wagner operas on youtube?
I'd love to see them live, but he's disparaged in my native city (wich is deeply antifascist since the '40s), so I know for a fact that seeing his major works would take me a decade (as far as I can tell they play one Wagner drama every 2 years).
I also know that Wagner's music is supposed to sound at times extremely loud and overwhelming, and I'm pretty sure I can't replicate that with my sound system.

What should I do?

>>71428934
>I'd love to see them live, but he's disparaged in my native city (wich is deeply antifascist since the '40s)
This sounds very stupid.

But yeah, you might as well watch already recorded productions.

>>71428934
Regardless of the opera, I always watch a production or two before I branch off into listening to studio productions or live recordings on CD. So, yeah, sure, watch them on Youtube. The Boulez Ring is on Youtube and everything, fully subtitled and all.

>I also know that Wagner's music is supposed to sound at times extremely loud and overwhelming, and I'm pretty sure I can't replicate that with my sound system.
Well, that depends on the conductor. There are many arguments that can be had that Wagner wanted a more chamber-like approach to his music, specifically so that voices would not be overwhelemd by the orchestra. Of course, you get orchestral outbursts quite a bit in his operas, but look at Parsifal, and you have mostly serene moments. Parsifal, by the way, was specifically designed with the Bayreuth acoustic in mind, and its orchestral pit is famous/infamous for burying the burying the orchestra and making it more quiet than most pits.

So I wouldn't worry about your sound system. Just put on some headphones or something, that's good enough.

just bought a cello
wish me good luck guys

>Wagner was a terrible pianist
Then how did he compose all those extremely complex operas? How does composing for large orchestras and chorus' work?
Anyone here knows anything about it?

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>>71429476
>just bought a cello
>bought

>>71429483
I think when people say that, they mean he is terrible compared to other composers.

>>71429483
Strictly speaking, you don't actually have to play any instrument at all in order to compose.

>>71429483
>Then how did he compose all those extremely complex operas?

rectally

>>71429727

Wow after hours of my internet turning off and on ever few seconds and 4chan not accepting any comments THIS is the one that finally goes through.

Brandenburg Concertos
Art Of Fugue
Goldberg Variations
Mass In B Minor
Well Tempered Clavier
St Matthew Passion
Concertos for Violin, two Violins, Violin + Oboe
All his other Organ works (toccata, fugue, prelude, sonata) that are in this: https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Organ-Works-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B00004SAAX

Is there anything else worth checking out from Bach? I have absolutely loved all of this.

>>71429756

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAh7e9d45_Y

>>71429756
Keyboard partitas

>>71429756
Cantatas, lute works, I could go on..

just beat up some nerd and took his cello
wish me good luck guys

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>>71430088

>>71429756
The concerto transcriptions

>>71429701
Then how was he able to know what his music sounded like?
There are moments in wich you have 3-4 melodic lines played by the orchestra and 1,2 or even 3 melodic lines sung by che actors. How was he able to picture them in his head without being able to play them on a piano?

>>71429756
The French and English Overtures
The Violin, Cello and Keyboard Partitas
His best cantatas

>>71431010
Having a really good ear.

>>71431074
>Having a really good ear.
How does that work? Did he just do ear training for years until he was able to imagine multiple melodic lines?
Is it something you're born with?

>>71431353
it comes with practise and familiarisation of music

>>71431417
That seems cool.
Can everyone learn how to do it? And how does one do that? I may think about giving it a shot.

>>71431433
A good idea is to find a decent music theory teacher who can first train you in 4-part SATB harmony writing with figured bass. There are a lot of rules and stuff to follow, but after a bit of practise you'll be a ninja at it and practically doing it in your sleep.

Then, there's a bit to learn on effective orchestration. For example, flutes add colour and flutter up above the rest, not with part of the main harmony; the string sections provide the main skeleton of the harmony

Other than that, it's a good idea to be following along scores while you listen to music; it's a very good way to get a wider musical vocabulary

>>71431010
He didn't.
Most composers just wrote shit down until it sounded good, trial and error.
Music is just a big meme.

>>71404127
Did you just fucking say feminists fucked with our music pages?

>>71422715
fame ans accomplishments are not a source of happiness for geniuses

>>71431956
Not just to start some anti es jay dub shit here, but like 3-4 years ago, feminists started fucking with wikipedia to add revisionist stuff. especially to famous males from the pre 20th century. the neckbeards do the same before them.

You're alone in your room listening to your favorite composer when all of the sudden i burst in and ask you what your favorite Historically Informed Performance is.

What do you say?

>>71433340
Art of the Fugue, Leonhardt

>>71433340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

>>71433340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2NzQUPmwjc
Goldberg on drugs

>>71433950
shred

Post some AUS/NZ music please.

>>71435200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hs96H3ubw

>>71435200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWiQM8qy6E

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>>71433340
>you burst in
>I'm listening to VBO's rendition of Bach's violin concertos while excessively masturbating to pictures of Carmignola
>we make eye contact

>Mahler 6
>cond. Pierre Boulez
>it's actually good
Goddammit how does he do it

QUESTION TIME

How much swagger did some of these composers have at the height of their popularity?

Say you were a foreign mid ranking noble, and at a feast Bach comes up and slaps your betrothed on the ass, what can you do? Bear in mind you're a visiting noble

>>71436195
Some composers were pretty popular with the ladies, I guess. Liszt must've fucked at least a hundred women. Wagner stole his friend's wife from him. Scriabin had a few affairs (one which bit him back in the ass pretty hard). Mozart was pretty popular with the ladies as well, I believe. Tchaikovsky fucked little boys.

>>71436256
I mean more in terms of perceived power and status as opposed to just ability to get bulk bitches.

Would a star composer have as much perceived power as a midranking noble? Or were they viewed as more plebeian?

>>71436350
Dunno. Some court composers might've had that kind of power, but I'm not really sure about that. Never really thought about it.

Of course, you have some composers like Gesualdo who were already noble, and the aforementioned murdered his wife and her lover.

What's a good recording of Pierrot Lunaire?

>>71437400
Eotvos

>>71436091
too bad he doesn't have the best recording to any important composer, except maybe debussy

>>71436350
Beethoven and Wagner are the best examples in the 19th century.
Beethoven, in his later years, was treated as a living legend by pretty much everyone. Reading his conversation books will reveal to you that everyone, from plebs to high military officials to high aristocracy, was obsessed with his music. At his death 3000 people marched with his coffin, most of them were musicians, intellectuals, nobles and bureaucrats.

Wagner was a megalomaniac, and everyone went along with him. He would be the focus of every party, everything he said was published in various newspapers and he had strong ties with the intelligentsia, the aristocarcy (ending up having a magnificent theater built for him by the King himself, who was a fan of his) and the general public.
Liszt was famous, but Wagner was revered by everyone who did matter at the time.

I wish I knew theory so I could understand why I like some pieces so much instead of just relying on emotions and mindlessly trying to catch up with the composer.

Yesterday I was listening to Mahler's 9th for the first time, I couldn't even finish the first movement because it was THAT insanely brilliant to me.

Telemann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb5gOg2MKvI

>>71439354
Mahler's 9th is all about motivic development, wich (given the amount of voices present in every second of music) will result in heavy counterpoint, wich will result in lots of hidden details, patterns and colors. Also lots of brilliant, effortless mpdulations, and, in general, a display of harmonic and melodic maestry.

It is a brilliant piece, and knowing the theory behind it will lnly enhance your appreciation for it.

A CD player containing one song of your choice and the coordinates to Earth will be found by the nearest alien civilisation tomorrow.
Which song do you pick?

>>71421398
take up the cello

>>71440236
I can pick up nearly everything that's going on, that's why I love it, the contrast between different timbres or parts of the orchestra is really impressive. I just wish I knew exactly how to describe what I'm hearing and deduce why he did it the way he did, like you just said.

I'll definitely learn more theory, at least I got the basics.

>>71438126
>beethoven's corpse

I gagged.

>>71440266
Chopin's Fugue

>>71410541
>jocelyn pook
>shitty
wow
anyway listen to perotin or some shit

>>71428601
yeah actually the golden pavilion is probably one of his most interesting pieces to me
the japanese influence helps, i'm sure

>>71433340
Enjoy my man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKJoPFz9J2k

rec me more cryptic classical like this pls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG4Q7u9qyEw

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Daily reminder that Verdi >>> Wagner

>>71436091
Boulez is a based af conductor. He's a more important conductor than a composer. Instrumental in getting 20th century composers into the repertoire. Bartok for example.

>>71435200
Allow me to represent NZ:

Lilburn's Aotearoa overture - one of the grandfathers of NZ classical music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk-XYzTSgfo

Best saxophone concerto ever written:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gG0j-35Mgk&list=RD9gG0j-35Mgk#t=0

Best use of microtones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHI2xyyH-CU

Eve's recent Cello concerto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZaVeYqVmY

Bass flute and harp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hFKqSdKao

Jenny's tone clock pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GziXH5axSSM

Anthony Ritchie, one of NZ leading symphonists and opera writers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogELM2QdQA0

His seminal 'Gallipoli to the Somme from last year' Double choir and full orchestra:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/concert/programmes/musicalive/audio/201823931/dunedin-symphony-orchestra-gallipoli-to-the-somme
(Skip to 6.44 for the start)

>>71441939
>2017
>unironically being poly

>>71441939
Are you a kiwi?

>>71441939
>nothing by Hohepa

baka

>>71442033
Of course

>>71442035
There's no one in sounz by that name, and I've never heard of a composer by that name.

Hohepa was the name of a Jenny Macleod opera, and I did mention Jenny's tone clock pieces.

Quite a few missing out though, Gillian Whitehead, Gareth Farr, Ross Harris, Michael Norris, Jack Body, Chris Cree-Brown. Few others I can't remember and plenty of young blood like Alex Taylor, Salina Fischer, myself, Karlo Margetic, etc.

>>71442116
Hohepa is the son of the local Mayor and is an outstanding example of what a Maori could be when raised in a stable household

>>71442116
Do you attend U of A?

>>71442349
nope, finished my studies years ago, at otago university

>>71433443
>>71433950
>>71435792
>>71441052
Fuck Bach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llB7NaWLUc4

>>71441377
He is playing anvils from his Der Ring des Nibelungen. kek'd

> Verdi >>> Wagner
Yeah man. Whatever. I don't care.

>>71442407
You should make the next thread to make mad all.

>>71421398
https://youtu.be/GgdpeLx0TGI

>>71440266
Petzold's Minuet