The madman actually did it

>>71401808
too bad the album sucked
but its cool hes finally made it

>>71401808
>industry plant performs song on tv show
Gee, colour me surprised

>>71401818
Sorry to hear you have such a low IQ

>>71401830
Nice meme. I hope you made mommy proud.

When musicians play on left-biased MSM with left-biased instruments with left-biased vocals and left-biased light systems, what can you expect? :(

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>>71401818
>>71401830
>>71401900
>being this stupid

>>71401949
awww does little russian drumpfkin snowflake need a safespace?

>>71401900
It's hard to believe how ungodly stupid you are, assuming that's your interpretation of the songs.

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>>71401967
I'm not sure what your point is trying to convey. It seems like the most entry level shame tactics. Perhaps you should learn to be less of a drone?

>>71401967
Wow you sound like every incredibly annoying retard liberal "comedian" on twitter

>>71402018
>>71402036
>>71402048
could you guys fuck off to /pol/
this is a music board

>>71402060
Why did you include me in that shit?

>>71402083
fuck off /pol/tard

>YouTube Comments

>This song should be called "I Spent My Whole Life Trying To Be Smart But All I Got Was Sand In My Vagina"

>>71402126
I can 100% guarantee that person isn't as intelligent as FJM and has infinitely less testosterone in their body.

Just like the people on /mu/.

>>71402095
>reading comprehension
fuck off /trash/tard

>>71402219
t.polartard

>>71402270
I have literally never gone on /pol/, you faggot. I only go on /lit/ and a couple times have gone on /tv/ but that board is awful.

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>>71402314
oh i get it
a psuedo retard.
worse than /pol/tard
carry on with your spooks and incoherent knowledge!

Memes aside, it's disappointing how almost every song now is a variation on Bored in the USA or Holy Shit. It works well as a standalone thing at the end of ILYHB, but when every track is trying to do the same thing it gets preachy. His take on love is much better than "LOL religious people are stupid!". Instrumentals are really nice at least.

>>71402372
(You)

Also, could you project any harder?

>>71402445
yeah but thats what his fanbase wants. they don't like sun kil moon's redneck ramblings

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>>71402465
its only projection
when
it hits
close to home
loser!

>>71402372
>>71402481
Why are you being so aggressive? Life is hard enough.

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>>71402506
aggressive
don't
make me laugh
you know
life could be much harder

>>71402471
DJM has never done the "redneck ramblings". Just listen to The Night Josh Tillman Came To Our Apartment, it's accessible and has great lyrics. Since this is the hyperpolitical era though, all the very good sentimental music is ignored by the public.

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>>71401900
>inanimate objects are leftist

>>71402534
im actually hoping professional reviewers shine some light on PC. because atm i just don't like it besides a couple songs
the ballads and lyrics don't warrant the length of this thing.

>>71402481
Keep telling yourself that, brainlet.

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>>71402525
Okay

>>71401818
>but its cool hes finally made it
>Finally made it

>>71401830
>Industry plant when he's been around for so long now
jfc I get not liking the guy the new album was overwrought af but how stupid are you

>>71402596
>im actually hoping professional reviewers shine some light on PC.
I don't think they really need to, it is sorely lacking in any sense of subtlety, and is frankly, boring.

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>>71401900
>left-biased instruments with left-biased vocals and left-biased light systems

>>71401808
His music is so fucking boring. And i'm getting tired of his sarcastic, ironic shtick too.

Literally no reason to listen to this hack instead of Joanna Newsom

>>71402717
yeah i think it is also. but im maybe theirs something im missing. fear fun and honeybear was fantastic.

>>71401808
>FJM stands on a soapbox and calls us all SHEEP while reading 10 minutes of lines an 8th grader would write.

10/10 best new music.

>>71401900
FJM is great because he can piss of democrats simply by being a white male, and republicans by singing about anti-religious themes at the same time

>>71401808
wait I'm totally out of the loop

can someone tell me why this dude is in any way relevant

>>71402555
I think he meant they're leftist as in they're played with the left hand

>>71404288
decent singer-songwriter that got tired off ripping off nick drake n them in his early career got picked up by fleet foxes to tour with. made good connections and rebranded himself as a cynical singer-songwriter with some humor thrown in . fear fun and ilyhb are great records
pure comedy is meh IMO. but i can see it getting high praise from p4k

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>>71402729
holy fuck that filenmae

>>71404288
Because SNL generally avoids good music preformed by and primarily consumed by white males these days

>>71401808
Every person defending father john misty says its ironic and you're an idiot if you don't get it

WOW insightful, are all of his fans 18 year old pseudo intellectuals?

>>71402126
>>71402445
>>71403239
>>71404608
>this political album is pseudo hack preachy shit (look how much better I am)
Nice! Let's look for your awards somewhere.

>>71404722
lets see your awards ass kisser

>>71401808
Ever notice how /mu/'s decided to dislike him after he made fun of Trump. I will admit from what I've heard of this album that it's not the same quality of his previous two but some folks on here try way too hard

>>71404740
>ass kisser
Because I'm not a pretentious egomaniac who thinks they're intelligent for disliking a political album?

Imagine how much fun you guys would've had with Bob Dylan.

>>71404789
lets talk more showing your awards pal

>>71404787
its not that bad but the ballads over and over don't justify the length.
he made a great point on "two widely different perspectives" but thats the albums highlight for me
after that the rest are just meh

>>71404800
Woah! Intimidating...

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>>71402729
>man holding tiny suitcase.jpg

>>71404840
still no awards huh?

>>71404861
Okay

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>the absolute dickriders getting mad in this thread

L
M
A
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

His first two albums were better, this is overwrought and underwhelming at the same time, has no original insight to speak of and tries to hard to captalize on the cult mentality that he's a "genius."

ILYH was a masterpiece, this is a mastershit. Stop being a dumbfuck cumguzzler, it gets you nowhere.

>>71404882
cmon bud don't mention awards you don't have.
that makes you a liar

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>>71401808
>I like Father John Misty

>>71404886
http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf

report back

>>71404983
Just the fact that you genuinely think you're smart for liking a mainstream musician who's playing on one of the biggest TV comedy shows ever made speaks more about your IQ than any online test could.

If that's hard for you to comprehend, I'm calling you a pretentious fucking retard.

>>71404789
>Bob Dylan
>Father John Misty
man, I think this new album is getting too much hate but that comparison is uh... unwarranted to say the least

>>71401853
>>71401949
>>71402018
>>71402060
>>71402095
>(You)

>>71405104
It gets pretty sad when you realize there are 60 posts and 23 IPs... Some guy is really personally offended by people disliking this dreck.

Is it possible that our boy J. Tillman himself is here?

>>71404787
Ever notice how half of /mu/ thought I Love You Honeybear was mainstream crap without ever listening to it?

>>71405132
To be fair, it seems like people are much more offended by people liking him than the other way around here

>>71405132
no josh already made fun of 4chan on his fb

could we actually discuss pure comedy?

fav track?
worst track?

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4chans pretty famous cause normies keep getting shocked by eveeything we do, plus there was a pepe in the pure comedy video, i know you are here tillman, and i will find you, and i am going to rape you

shit thread

>>71405198
Fav is a toss up between the Memo and a bigger paper bag. Can't really pick a worst because a lot of this album just does nothing for me so I'll say the worst songs are all the ones that I haven't mentioned other than the two long ones.

This is even too pretentious for me

>>71405014
I'm still waiting on the results, faggot.

>>71405269
Whoa... The time it took you to come up with that really showed your genius IQ...

i like how since trump got elected the media is trying to force the narrative that snl is good again when in reality it's been trash for over 15 years

>>71405290
Because I was giving you the time to take the test, you brainlet. Wow, you really are completely mentally deficient. Still waiting.

This is why trump will win again get the fuck off your high horse real people are hurting in this country

>>71405345
fjm is pretty sensible when it comes to trump. tbqh and he isn't anti-religion like ppl think

>>71405357
>and he isn't anti-religion like ppl think
The lyrics are pretty fucking clear when it comes to religion.

>>71405357
Idk maybe I need to read the lyrics I just saw the pepe movie

>>71405381
Read his recent interviews ffs

>>71405381
no he did an interview recently with sub-pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGn-ZbXEJnE
he's just singing about his extremist experience with it all and pointing out hypocrites
he said at times he returns to it when hes feeling down.
im translating it poorly but its not "fuck religion" like some ppl are saying
hes a smart guy just not coherent at times

>>71405198
>Best
Pure Comedy
>Runner-up
Ballad of the Dying Man
>Underrated
So I'm Growing Old On Magic Mountain
>Overrated
The Memo
>Worst
Leaving LA

>>71405344
You can try to avoid answering actual posts all you want, it'll only make you look dumber. You can't even ironically claim to be smart if you feel at all "enlightened" by what Joshua sings -- feels like stuff I'd have thought were the absolute shit when I was 14 and just finding out that the world was more than cartoons. These are all pretty tired ideas, especially the incredibly cliche'd rant on religion and the songs repeat themes amongst themselves.

This album was pretty obviously an attempt to emulate Bored In The USA, forgetting the fact that the track stood out because it was the only one of its kind in ILYH, and the rest of the album was filled with sincere and poignant messages to balance it out, it wasn't just sarcastic diarrhea. Anyone who thinks making "social commentary," and even more so, ironic social commentary, is anything remarkable nowadays oughta be shot. But TECHNOLOGY IS SO BAD AMIRITE PPL

Cry all you want, album sucks and you're a bitch.

>>71405448
please be a copypasta

Imagine being this triggered by a song

You /mu/ tards complain about him being so pretentious, yet you bitch in threads about every artist you don't like, calling the people who like those artists "retarded" and "stupid leftists" and whatever bullshit insults you can think of. The irony of that must be lost on you

>>71405521
Is it just "a song" now? Because I was under the impression that liking it was a sign you're a true genius with an unrivaled IQ. What happened? Do you happen to be a daft cunt who can't defend himself?

>>71405521
>still can't articulate why this album is good
sad!

I don't know what all this arguing about politics is all about, but I sincerely just don't really like this new material.

Bored in the USA was by far my least favorite song off of Honeybear, and as others have said pretty much all these new songs are in that style. Musically it doesn't give you much to be interested in and it relies solely off whether you buy into what he's selling. He's a good songwriter in terms of how he presents his ideas, but when dealing with such heavy and wide reaching concepts like the American dream or whatever his ideas and insights themselves come off as pretty shallow and vacuous. He should've stuck with the sillier stuff.

Also, those performances just weren't that good. He was pretty pitchy and his voice didn't seem to have the weight it usually.

And I guess this isn't really related but just watch this old SNL performance by Fleet Foxes. Completely blows him by himself out of the water.

https://vimeo.com/53104416

>>71405635
>Musically it doesn't give you much to be interested in and it relies solely off whether you buy into what he's selling.
You couldn't be any more wrong. See >>71405409
You have to be something of a vapid cunt to analyze solely what you find on the surface.

>>71405557
When did I say that? You can be mentally impaired or a down right genius and still like a song. Doesn't have to be FJM, could be anyone from Adele to Mozart to Electric Wizard.

>>71405578
>still can't articulate why this album is bad
FYI the album isn't even out, we only have like 3 or 4 songs off of it to base our opinions on

>>71405688
it leaked 2 weeks ago...

>>71405705
send me a link

its not "out" though, just leaked. might just wait for the higher quality version when it comes out, than judge the sound of a leak

>>71405728
its on soulseek in 320 buddy

>>71405728
The leak quality is fine, how new are you?

>>71405688
>FYI the album isn't even out, we only have like 3 or 4 songs off of it to base our opinions on

https://mega.nz/#F!LgZ1WBwZ!cYuE5BehrDtoS-Mky7-BuQ

>>71405736
flac pls

>>71405635
Great post. Also thought his live performances were very weak. I don't know if it's my headphones but his voice seemed really low, the singing was off and he looked like he was about to cry.

People getting trigged by negative opinions need to shut the fuck up quickly, I liked his first album and loved Honeybear. This is a step in the wrong direction and a lot of people seem to think so as well. He needs to be aware of this instead of living in his little hugbox which allowed this album to exist in the first place. Tillman is smart, but he's no philosopher. The strongest parts about Honeybear were the raw bouts of honesty and dark humor, also I thought musically it was great too. This music now feels dead, it's just done for the message.

>>71405686
I'm sorry but what does that prove? What about his insights are lying "below the surface" like you suggest? I'm not gonna go read some unspecified interview you mentioned.

I'm not even saying I necessarily disagree with a lot of what he's putting forth, just that they don't justify the bombastic (yet still somehow, boring) arrangements he's using.

>>71405805
>Tillman is smart, but he's no philosopher.
Yeah pretty much this.

>>71405635
jfc the wooooah wooooah wooaaaaaaah
really killed indie music
its like everybody said fuck it we're gonna copy the doobie brothers

>>71405855
I don't know why people always complain about that. It's basically just a way to deliver the melody/harmonies where lyrics would be inappropriate. Vocalists have literally been doing that for centuries.

And even if you find it grating, at least give Fleet Foxes a break since they were doing first in the whole indie sphere. Everyone just started copying them.

>>71405940
no fleet foxes did it fine. but if you start paying attention it became everybody's gimmick

>>71405830
This is Father John Misty we are talking about. Remember that. Most of what he's saying in these songs is cynical but that's intended but there's also his characteristic self-awareness in it. After all, he called the album Pure Comedy, which has two meanings to it in the first place. I do not think you need to buy into to what he is saying in order to enjoy the lyrics themselves.

>>71405855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r0n9Dv6XnY

>>71405980
Post more woah-core

>>71405940
I don't see why people give Fleet Foxes a pass. They're really not that different.

And now everyone will only praise them again because their new album will have longer songs that are more experimental.

>>71405978
thats great but why is his delivery on pc so fucking bland.
lyrical he has presented issues majority of us have figured out. but still no answers and its not even in the haha funny way like frank zappa with his rants
im trying to like this record hard but besides
pure comedy
two wildly
so im growing old
the memo
bigger paper bag

rest aren't that great

>>71406061
>lyrical he has presented issues majority of us have figured out. but still no answers
That's sort of the point

>>71405978
Holy jesus dude, yes I get that there are tinges of irony and cynisicm to it, I'm saying that whole schtick has gotten tired and uninteresting.

I shouldn't have used "buying into what he's selling". I was using that specifically to refer to the fact that these songs solely rely off what you get out of the lyrics as everything about them musically is incredibly weak. It's just ballad after ballad with barely any memorable melodies and overblown instrumentation.

And again, I don't think any of what he's saying justifies that. He's basically just writing thinkpieces as songs, and not even that good of think pieces.

>>71406084
But why? He's not adding anything interesting or reframing them. He's just stating what every 14 year-old with an internet connection learns on their first week at reddit.

>>71406084
welp guess this album isn't for me
back to honeybear

>>71406110
meant to write *irony and self criticism

And I'm sorry but this >>71406084 doesn't justify it either. If you want to see an actually interesting take on making a point to subjective evaluate the modern world, go listen to SKM.

>>71404789
>Imagine how much fun you guys would've had with Bob Dylan.
Bob Dylan used metaphors and poetic imagery, FJM is lyrics without poetry. Artless banality.

>>71406159
Hahah, I can't believe that retard actually considers FJM to be anywhere near Dylan's level.

To further your point, A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall was written 53 years ago and it gives more useful insights into our current social/political situation than anything on Pure Comedy, which will sound outdated in 2 years.

ew

>>71406110
>>71406141
>>71406155
I think there is one example that perfectly illustrates why this feels off, and how FJM has become what he wrote about.

Holy Shit was one of my favorite songs off Honeybear, and it really tied the whole album together, particularly because of the ending in which he sang

>Oh, and love is just an institution based on human frailty, what's your paradise got to do with Adam and Eve?
>Maybe love is just an economy based on resource scarcity
>But what I fail to see is what that's gotta do with you and me

In this song, he is repeating the same old and tired concepts and criticisms and also tossing them aside in favour of a more honest and immediate way of thinking, he's no longer being so cynical about the world. This is echoed in I Went To The Store where he says he "never thought it'd be so simple" to fall in love.

Pure Comedy is exactly the first three lines I quoted without the ending. It is JUST the tired, old, senseless commentary with nothing personal to it.

this guy reeks

>>71406110
Brainlet

music for people who don't know any better

There's absolutely no impact to this mans songwriting, performing or lyricism.

>Dr. John Misty
ftfy all

>>71406290
>wait a second I'm getting a call from Sufjan stevens

>"This album deals a lot with the fact that there isn't a whole lot in this experience, in being a human, that is new. Everything comes back around. And these kinds of clichés, if you want to call them that, I think inform the work of just about everybody that I really love.

>"A lot of the time, those are artists who end up getting saddled with the 'pretentious' tag, whether that's Terrence Malick or Charlie Kaufman, Kurt Vonnegut. I think that, in my work, you hear somebody asking these questions. On the first album it was 'Who am I?' and on the second album, it was, 'What is love?' On this album, it's 'What does it all mean?'

>"I wanted to make music in the studio, instead of making tracks, so for the first time, I got a rhythm section together instead of just Jonathan [Wilson, producer] and I playing everything. I got a rhythm section together, we rehearsed for months, and then we got into the studio, and tracked guitar, bass, drums, piano and vocals, all live.

>"Some of my favourites, you know, if you listen to Hunky Dory or something, the best songs on that record are piano, bass, drums and hand claps, and they sound massive. It just feels a lot more deliberate."

>"When I was growing up — especially when I was a teenager — I had this sense that as soon as I got out of the house, and out of the church, then I wouldn't live in 'crazy-world' anymore. And then I got into the 'real world,' so to speak, and realized that it was just as convoluted and insane as the church. I started seeing parallels all over the place, a lot of religious thinking that people just didn't call religious thinking. That made life very isolating, you know? And I still feel really isolated to a certain extent; I still feel like I can't quite connect with a lot of people."

>>71406307
thats great and all things i've learned when i was 16 but whats the next step buddy
im still stuck on the next part and looks like he has clue either.
and the instruments on this are nice but his vocals ruin this

>>71406217
It's the complete lack of subtlety or symbolism in any form in Pure Comedy that gets to me.

He's not saying anything other than what he is actually saying. I know people call this sort of trash "sincerity" like what Mark Kozelek does, but it's not lyricism. It's narrative without substance or poetics. At least when Nick Cave does it it is interesting because there is a meaningful line thrown in here and there.

These motherfuckers think they are Bob Dylan, but they don't realize what made Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan, It wasn't writing ten pages of lines and name drops, it was stringing many small lines of surreal lyrics together into a woven thread of thoughts.

>>71406339
no clue*

>"Human civilizations have been entertaining themselves in disgusting ways all through human history — I mean, whether it's lighting Christians on fire, or whatever. We have to consider that maybe there are ways in which we entertain ourselves now that are equally as disturbing.

>"The internet was supposed to be this new democracy, a utopia of information where everyone had a voice and we were all inter-connected, and we would experience true democracy — and it turned into pornography, followed only by outrage."

>"Human civilizations have been entertaining themselves in disgusting ways all through human history — I mean, whether it's lighting Christians on fire, or whatever. We have to consider that maybe there are ways in which we entertain ourselves now that are equally as disturbing.

>"The internet was supposed to be this new democracy, a utopia of information where everyone had a voice and we were all inter-connected, and we would experience true democracy — and it turned into pornography, followed only by outrage."

>"It's existential, which is maybe a bit too dignified of a word for it, but I mean, it really is a love letter to humanity.

>"When you fall in love with someone, you don't fall in love with the parts of them that make sense, or are explicitly beneficial; you fall in love with the fucked up, and the wounded, and the bizarre. Those are the things about people that you fall in love with, what solicits your empathy. Because you recognize those same things in yourself. And it's an incredible relief when you realize that those things that make you flawed exist in other people. And that if you can have empathy for them, maybe you can have empathy for yourself, too."

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Reminder that Father John Mistry is an industry plant nu-male faux-intellectual currently being heavily shilled by his management/label here.

>>71406368
>is an industry plant
What does this even mean?

>>71406368
Fuck off. I wish I worked for Sub Pop.

>>71406360
copy and pasted wrong

>"I had written these songs and had this realization that was like, 'This album can't be about humanity if there's not a portrait of a living, breathing human being smack in the centre of it.' It's like, 'Okay, we're taking this really macro view of humanity, this really kind of reductionist view; now we need to go deep into the fears and humanities of a real human being, to give it perspective.'"

Can this guy just go away?

>>71406307
If you need the artist to explain what their work is about, then the work has failed.

And yes, I get the argument you and he are making, I'm saying that it has failed. These songs sound declarative, not personal. If he was intending to make an album showing his subjective view of the world with all of it's cliches then he has taken the completely wrong approach.

And jesus christ, the fuckin ego on this hack to compare himself to Malick, Kaufman or Vonnegut. I agree people tend to overuse "pretentious" but this album is the definition of pretentious. An affectation of significance and insight without any insight.

>>71406434
But he hasn't done that in the least. hasnt gone deep, hasn't even scratched the surface.

>>71406455
Yes, all you have to do is close your tab.

Oh wait, it's you who actually can't stop listening to him. Guess you have to kill yourself then, anon.

>>71406434
its like he decided to make a watered down version of what hes trying to accomplish

@71406467
Brainlets don't deserve a response. If you can't even comprehend the album then this conversation is futile.

>>71406503
you can't even comprehend the album without resorting to quoting an interview

>>71406481
i listened to, at max, 20 seconds collectively of the videos above, never properly listened to a single one of his songs, and yet, he still manages to annoy the bejesus outta me, so you're right, I'll take my leave, not of life though, of this thread...:)

@71406528
>this response
You need to see a doctor

and not Dr. John Misty, because he is clearly beyond your juvenile level of basic understanding.

>>71401967
How did a thread about some musician on SNL devolve into a Trump vs Hillary argument. I seriously hope you motherfuckers don't do this irl

>>71405635
damn didnt realize fleet foxes guy could actually sing

>>71406738
Robin is a great singer dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQJ5EYdwTUA

>>71406840
this thread has turned me into a fleet foxes fan

>>71402445
Oh thank the lord I'm not the only one thinking this.
Like seriously, instrumentation is going to be stellar on this album, but I am not readily prepared to hear him vent for AN HOUR about the world's problems.

And as far as lyricism goes (on these three singles), I don't feel it's as witty or clever as ILYHB. I'll probably still love it but ILYHB is definitely going to be his finest work for a while, a very special album for me personally.

>>71401808
He is starting to look like Mark Kozelek

>>71405635
>>71406840
Robin Pecknold's guitar playing and vocals are A++

Wouldn't mind seeing a solo album from him, but I hope he tones down the metaphorical overdrive on the new Fleet Foxes album.

>>71401808
This thread demonstrates why FJM is insufferable garbage.

>>71401853
>father john misty fan accusing someone of having low iq

oh the irony

>>71407894
He's confirmed that he is releasing a solo abum shortly after the new FF one so you're in luck.