What are some good bands/musicians that did horrible things?

>>71368862
Charles Manson had a few people killed

>>71368862
John Lydon sat idly by while the UK pop industry regularly raped minors but made sure to record a slight mention of it back in the 70's so he could later say I told you so despite doing nothing to bring the actual issues to light...I realize the Sex Pistols weren't good but PiL was

>>71368862
Bono formed U2. That's worse than raping and muerdering a baby.

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>>71368946
this. U2 is literally the worst band of all time.

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Gave River Phoenix that fatal overdose

Now he's gotta pay 50,000 a month to his ex-wife so there's some justice

>>71368950
How so? He killed a piece of shit. He's more like a hero... except the for church arson, that's kinda fucked up.

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INB4.

>>71368862
What?
You got any sources?

>>71369024
1/5

The reason Peter Christopherson had such a fondness for non-English speaking backwater Asian countries was because he knew he could freely abuse children in them without any of the abuse ever coming to light, without any of his victims' testimonies ever reaching too many people.

Many of the band's friends knew this but have continued to keep it on the down-low, in the process allowing who knows how many children to get abused by Peter Christopherson.

Even though Christopherson all but spelled out his proclivities in various interviews, the interviewers and the fans of the band all decided to shrug his statements off as being mere provocation for the sake of provocation.

>>71369078
2/5

From the horse's mouth:

Christopherson: They ARE two "taboos" which I think are correct and there for a reason - One is non-consensuality - You can't do things to people they don't want.

It is generally understood by law in most civilized countries that kids are far too underdeveloped to be capable of making any sorts of decisions when it comes to topics such as intercourse, and that they are extremely susceptible to suggestion at the hands of their elders. A child's consent means nothing in the court of law.

One of the main excuses favored by convicted child molesters is that the children which they abused wanted it and enjoyed it. As can be seen in the above quote, it is also an excuse which Christopherson was fond of using.

A video the band shot in a child prostitute bar in Thailand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUY_zpPeab0

>>71368991
Whoah, cool down there you bible-thumping fuckwit, the church arson was the noble thing he did...the murder was questionable, though at least it was a friend...I'm much less okay with that other guy (from Emperor?) who just murdered someone for being gay

Murdering strangers in general is pretty disgusting

>>71369093
3/5

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUY_zpPeab0
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6947&Itemid=1

Thailand is, by the way, a country notorious for its lax attitude towards child abuse and child molestation, an attitude which attracts many Western pedophiles and child molesters who want to abuse children without ending up in prison for it.
Christopherson eventually permanently moved to Thailand.

PC: The other is to do with inexperienced, un-developed, or under-age children. I think we are all sexual beings up to a point, but children deserve the right to discover things in their own time, and in their own way, and its wrong for adults to take advantage of their senior or more powerful position.

While some fans of this band have decided to interpret this quote as condemnation of child abuse, a read between the lines reveals the disgusting suggestion behind the statement.
In saying that "children deserve the right to discover things in their own time, and in their own way" Christopherson does not outright condemn paedophilia, he merely suggests that hey, if a hypothetical child were to "discover things" at the age of, say 13, it would be perfectly OK for an adult (such as himself) to go along with it.

>>71369015
Why would you need to tell anyone this? He explicitly sang about it in The Beatles songs while they were together

>>71369114
4/5

To reiterate, one of the most excuses most commonly used by paedophiles is that there was no abuse involved in what they did to children, and that the children wanted it just as much, if not even more, than the paedophiles in question did.

PC: Thoughtless damage to a lifetime of potential brilliance, joy and wonder for the child, and for the adult, the gain of almost nothing - an immediately forgotten moment of not-feeling-quite-so-bad about themselves.

The train of thought behind the above quoted statement reads like a conclusion which came from personal experience.
In this excerpt we can see a statement which, extremely disturbingly, reads like an actual child molester talking about the self-loathing and regret which arises in the aftermath of the abuse he inflicts upon children.

>>71369133
5/5

PC: I can imagine their might have been situations where things were being done to someone against their will (and I have seen such things in films - true or otherwise - indeed made such films myself) that I subsequently found I did not enjoy.

Here he admits to sexual abuse witnessed and inflicted upon others.

Please, don't allow this information to get buried and forgotten.

>>71369152
Thats creepy as a mother fucker.
What about them sampling molestation in their music?

>>71369152
Hey, if it means more people listening to Coil, I'm happy with you continuing to spam this every day

>hey let's really focus the public's attention on speculating on the pedophilia of people who are long dead so that nobody realizes it's still going on today
Hmm, I wonder who's behind this...

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>>71369197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peAhUcAsbyY

At the end of the track you can hear a kid shouting.

Kid
>Get off, get off me you punk!

Sleazy (or Johnn, I don't know)
>No!

You can also hear at the beginning another kid laughing.

Also, the baby crying sample in the whole fucking track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZK7vja5FLA

Another hints include:

>The Death Pasolini
A pedophile

This interview with Johnn about satanists being safe, instead of pedophiles (probably tralking about themselves).

http://www.brainwashed.com/common/htdocs/publications/coil-2001-fortean_times.php?site=coil08

Pic related. I mean, all those baby dolls.

You know, it's like they're giving hints and shit. What the fuck?

Ariel Pink was racist & sexist tm in current year by criticizing Grimes

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>>71369287
Until these sick fucks get their reputation ruined as they deserve. No child molester should be praised, no matter the quality of their work.

You're all probably sick fucks who want paedophilia being normalized. Good thing Trump won.

>>71369101
I don't agree with burning down any building just because you don't like the religion it's associated with.
also I don't think he killed that guy specifically for being gay, I think he just wanted to know what it was like to kill someone and the guy happened to be there

Fuck coil. Disgusting pedos. I can't support a band that rapes children. Why do faggots tend to be such degenerate pedophiles?

>>71369390
Agreed. If we manage to make normal well-adjusted people see this, they can work together to ensure that people who like this shitty band are properly shamed. Pedophiles should NEVER be respected.

Can anybody, like, contact Danny Hyde or Thighpaulsandra to clear things up? I'm getting tired of these stupid rumours. In fact, somebody should contact Genesis P-Orridge if this is true.

What's worse
Gary Glitter molesting little Thai girls or Coil molesting little Thai boys?

Big Lurch

>>71369352
bad people can make good music.
both david bowie and robert plant fucked a bunch of underage girls, but it would be ludicrous to deny their talent and influence.

>>71369152
So basically you have no hard facts. Just conclusions you have made yourself from hearsay and flawed evidence.

>>71369566
Big difference between 15 year old girls who are biologically able to have children and have an adult body and prepubescent boys that Coil messed around with.

>>71369623
wow you are one sick fuck
pedo is a pedo no matter what
35 year old men fucking 15 year old girls? that's obscene. you see nothing wrong with that? fuck you degenerate.

>>71369566
Yeah, they were 16 or 17 years old groupies. These sick fucks literally touched and fucked kids when they were 6 or even 9. Huge fucking difference. Still wrong that Bowie and Plant did that.

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>>71368862
Afrika Bambaataa raped and molested kids that adored him. I got a source here:

https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/afrika-bambaataa-sexual-abuse-zulu-nation-ron-savage-hassan-campbell

Basically he would use his influence of the Zulu Nation and street cred to lure kids who idolized him into playing with his dick and stuff. I never thought it would be like that, but damn there's a lot of hard evidence that points to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GReVSCDf5aU

>>71369101
Those churches were ancient and priceless you gay faggot.

>>71369603
Are you fucking stupid? They gave hints in their music like "Yeah we're paedophiles... let's insert baby sounds and samples here and there and let's pass it as art! Because we are experimental musicians, of course".

>>71369735
Putting baby sounds in music and going to Thailand does not a pedophile make. You're going to have to do better than that.

>>71369322
Are you joking or retarded?

>>71369692
>>71369623
>15 year old
>16 or 17 years
lol try 13 and 14

>>71368950
Does anyone actually like Burzum though? To me it sounds like literal garbage.

>>71369781
>Peter Christopherson was found dead in Thailand of mysterious circumstances

Gee I wonder.

>>71369809
Are you defending paedophilia?

>>71369322

Everything about this is like fucking pizzagate

fucking hell why are so many homosexuals such creepy pieces of shit

>>71369540
>>71369704
y is everyone ignoring big lurch

>>71369735
While I don't know about Coil and I'm assuming this shit is mainly b8, but this brings up a lot of questions. Where do you guys draw the line with art and shock value? At what point do pedophilia references and other terrible stuff cross the line from provocative to disgusting. I know a lot of artists use babies crying or some other shit in their music to evoke a primal reaction, but where do you draw the line personally, if at all? Like I was listening to a post metal album that had the sound of a 911 call of a child calling because someone broke into his house. You can hear the intruder get to the kid and I believe kill him. I immediately tuned out and turned it off 2 minutes later. I felt like it was an attempt to be provocative because the artist couldn't convey that emotion through their music. I found the sample shallow and in poor taste. I also generally feel that way about over the top sex in art. But that might because I'm more than most people. How about you guys?

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>>71369357
>Christians rape and bastardize and steal and kill pagan culture over the course of hundreds and hundreds of years
>burning down a building is over the line tho

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>>71369913
big lurch was framed, they drugs him up then stuck the ladies meat in his mouth

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>When Wilson married his first wife, Marilyn Rovell, he was 22 and she was 16 years old.

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>>71369924

I'm pretty sure the main point of industrial music is shock value. Lots of themes etc. that makes people uncomfortable dealing with.

>>71369924
>Where do you guys draw the line with art and shock value?

You must be blind. The shock factor comes when you want to be edgy for the sake of being edgy. See the Brainbombs' Burning Hell dead baby, that's shock value.

I don't know if you get my point, but what Coil did was just putting little "hints" about their fetishes and perverted, sexual fantasies in their songs... without being provocative or edgy. It's like I'm going to take a photograph of a 13 year old naked girl, and call it "art", but in reality I'm going to jack off to that pic. Get it?

>>71369114
>if a hypothetical child were to "discover" things at the age of, say 13, it would be perfectly OK
Yeah, why not? I wanted sex at 13. I watched porn and mastrubated every night. I would have loved to have sex when I was 13, so why would having sex with me at that age be an unforgivable act? I wouldn't be traumatized, I would probably still mastrubate to the thought of it.

>53 posts, 22 IPs

So that anon still hasn't given up on the Coil thing

>>71370133
Not him, but the difference is the age/maturity gap. If two year olds fuck it's not normally traumatic. But a 35 year old and a 13 year old normally causes issues for the 13 year old for life

>>71370167
I see you're still dodging their paedophilia like it's perfectly okay. It's ok, anon.

>>71370115
After awhile the fixation on pedophilia in industrial music seems to be more than just for the sake of art. I don't know though. That's just what I see.

>>71369853
>>71369853
>>71369322
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>>71369078
There is literally nothing wrong with ephebophilia.

>>71370198

Nice putting words in my mouth

>>71370181
I was pretty into women in their 20s and 30s. I always jerked off thinking about my teachers. I would not have been traumatized if we had fucked. I would have loved it.

>she's just 16 years old
>leave her alone
>they saaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>71370207
It's sort of the epitome of edginess though, so it's not entirely surprising for it to be used for shock value so often.

>>71370261
It's one of those things that you don't know how'd it fuck you up until afterwards. There's a difference between fantasy sex and a 20 something having sex with a 13 year old. Statistically it causes sexual issues later in life and an increased likelihood of substance dependency

>>71369935
>muh inherited guilt

>>71370295
Good point. But personally I still believe there is something there. I hope not though

>>71370313
I don't believe that it would have fucked me up. Why would it have? I can remember the time very clearly and all I m could think about was sex. Maybe it's different in the christian USA where people don't learn about sex until they are 16, I don't know.

>>71369935

Because vikings totally did not pillage and rape every other land and people they invade though

>>71370413
I'm just going off of what I've seen both statistically and anecdotally. You can look it up. I can't remember any papers off of the top of my head

Montie, put your trip back on, we all know you hate Coil.

>>71370474
it makes sense now. fuck montie.

>>71370474
>>71370549
i'm pretty sure it's actually some afterbirth from /pol/ who failed reading comprehension (unless some other anon is roleplaying him). I saw these exact same posts months ago when /pol/ was trying to manufacture its moral crusade over pizzagate.

>>71370468
Yes, but statistics are not always correct and individual cases might differ from each other. I speak from my own perspective (from when I was thirteen) and I know that at the age, I did desire sex and from women much older than me at that. I might have been sexually mature for my age or something, I don't know. I just know that if I, personally, would have gotten laid as a 13 year old, I would have enjoyed it and that I wouldn't want the person I fucked to end up in trouble because of it.

>>71370608
There's also the issue of when children become responsible enough to make certain huge decisions. But that's a seperate. While I think it's a personal thing and everyone would handle it differently. I think it's one of those things that you don't know until it happens to you.

>>71369940
a classic ploy

>>71368862

>sleazy raped a baby

source? I think you're shitposting kek

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> Lostprophets disbanded in 2013 after Watkins was charged with sexual offences in late 2012. In November 2013, he pleaded guilty to 13 charges, including the attempted rape and sexual assault of a child under 13; these offences were committed against the infant children of two women who were also convicted.[3] He is currently in HM Prison Long Lartin serving 29 years in jail.[4]

>>71369322

They also have a track called baby food, probably hinting at the fact that mcdonalds meat is mixed with baby flesh

>>71370741
Why do pedos always signal that they're pedos? Do they get a rush from it?

Sleazy explicitly sodomizes and murders a person in NIN's Broken movie.

>>71369352

There's literally no proof of any of this, this is a meme likely started by Montie. Coil were an edgy band and explored lots of dark themes, it doesn't mean shit. If anything I'm pretty sure I remember an interview were Sleazy spoke out against anyone who would harm a child, even John was very peaceful and against animal abuse.

>>71370715
>I can imagine their might have been situations where things were being done to someone against their will (and I have seen such things in films - true or otherwise - indeed made such films myself) that I subsequently found I did not enjoy.

>>71369322
>>71370741
>baby dolls

What the shit?

>>71369566
>one
>a bunch
>15 years old
>a child
15 years old is of legal age in Mexico FYI

>>71370797

Nice job quoting something with no context what so ever surrounding it

>>71370663
Well, it's not like I'm talking about rape. But I do agree that I can't know for sure how it would have affected me. I am at the very least 80% sure, though, that I would have liked it and kept on thinking about it as a positive experience.

>>71368961
circa War they were a good band, believe it or not

>>71370741
Megalolz

>>71369093
So what? Sleazy fucked around with most likely some teenage gay thai boys, I doubt it was rape though. This is a far cry from straight up babyrape

>>71369352
trump supporters seem to be ok with pedophilia

>>71370896
He was talking about this >>71369322

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>>71369973
>she didn't age well

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>>71368862
Robert Fripp used to routinely molest deaf kids (only ever deaf kids) in his Santa Monica basement. At the same time, he also introduced AIDS into the United States, as evidenced by a definitely legitimate Facebook "whistleblower".

Hehas been linked with a string of bizarre murders of fans of his group, some of which had failed to procure receipts upon request, and others of which had attempted to photograph King Crimson concerts. His bizarre means of killing, described by a witness as "flailing with shoulders and legs until enough trauma has been caused to induce death" is particularly harrowing.

ALWAYS make sure that your DGM products are properly paid for and certified, and that your children have good hearing.

>>71369973
She looks closer to 36 than 16

>>71370935
wtf i love robert fripp now

>>71370935
I believed this up until "His bizarre means of killing, described by a witness as a flailing with shoulders and legs until enough trauma has been caused to induce death" part

>>71369836
The first few Burzum albums are widely considered some of the greatest black metal albums of all time.

>>71371010
No.

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>>71370935
and don't forget what he did to bill

>>71368946
>>71368961
If U2 did anything wrong it was The Edge letting Bono make their ironic "Rockstar" look a genuine aesthetic choice.
Joshua Tree is a fucking classic and the hate is just a meme started by South Park.
I will give you that their late career material is subpar but they are by no means "the worst band ever."

>>71371191

ebin contrarian response

>>71371191
yes

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>>71370935
YOU'RE NEXT

>>71370935
at least they can't hear his shitty music

>>71369935
>>71370467
Friendly reminder that the conversion of Norway was a peaceful one. A missionary came to a yarl's court and asked to teach of his god. The yarl said their gods were greater and that they had the tree of Thor as a testament to that. The missionary suggests that if he cuts down the tree and his god defends him from Thor's wrath that they will allow him to teach. The Yarl allows it believing that the missionary will be struck dead before even striking the tree.
The missionary proceeds to fell the tree and chop it into fire wood. The Yarl, seeing this as a sign that Thor's bitch ass wouldn't dare fuck with a dude who follows Jehova, converts and welcomes Christianity into his community.
While other instances of conversion were not as dramatic as this the cultural shift from Paganism to Christianity was generally a pragmatic one since they were constantly showed the value of keeping a Christian priest or monk handy as a slave when conquesting.

>>71370920
>implying you wouldn't smash that.
What are you, fuckin' gay?

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>>71371475
>it's late in the night
>the king crimson show has just ended
>you're in the parking lot walking to your car
>behind you in the distance you can faintly hear noises
>shuffling and scuffling
>flapping and clapping
>you think nothing of it
>you continue walking to your car
>you notice the sounds are now rapidly increasing in volume
>you turn around just as they reach peak volume
>this is the last thing you ever see

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>>71372280
What if I wear a suit entirely tailored from DGM receipts? Do you think that would be enough, or will he still want to, ahem, take radical action?

>>71371888

lmao vikings were dumb as fuck

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I love how montie is such a coward he doesn't even keep his trip on for shitposting. Cmon montie of you are so sure this is true, let's test your belief, no need to hide right? You have all the proof i'm sure?

>>71371191
You can dislike them, but this:>>71371010, this is a fact.

>>71372909
this

>>71372941
>them

>>71369692

How can you be so sure that they fucked kids of that age?
The boys in the notorious Love's Secret Domain video were asian twinks no younger that 15-16. Maybe they just were after those, not full pedo.

>>71369826
>>15 year old
>>16 or 17 years
>lol try 13 and 14

Even younger than that.
Iggy Pop had a relationship with the 11yo younger sister of a famous baby groupie.

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>>71369973

Jerry Lee Lewis married the 13 yo daughter of his first cousin.

>>71368862
did Coil actually do shit like this or is everyone just memeing?

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>>71371010
But that's like saying "This is the sweetest turd in the world". It can be the sweetest piece of shi, but it's still that, shit. An varg was/is a Lord of the Ring nerdfag

>>71373559

>industrial artists doing provocative shit and making controversial statements

here's the proof that they used to rape toddlers to death!

>>71373559
it's just montie not understanding music as usual and not being banned

>>71373559

It's a Montie meme, he really doesn't like Coil

How can we permaban Montie?

>>71369535
Gary Glitter cause his music's worse

>>71369015
He should've killed Yoko in a domestic

Morrissey is definitely a Pedo.
Just listen to his lyrics

That faggy emo metal english guy who raped a baby while on meth

>>71373481
she was qt though