/prod/ - Music Production General

These threads still exist?

>>71355666
They do indeed satan. They're mostly shit because we get a lot of underage b8 but when it's good, it's great

Hey 21P knock-off band anon! How did your gig go? Post pic of the line of gurlz still waiting to be smashed now that the gig is over!

pretty good flip, i think the bass has a little too much compression unless that's the sound u were going for

>>71355817
You're probably right. I did it just now so I should probably go back and mix it. I was drawing inspiration from this which has some really heavy bass, could be why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEzm52RppQY

File: 16729384_252710611835627_5617165891246307892_n (1).jpg (103KB, 960x960px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 960x960px

>>71355650

https://clyp.it/cgboihjl

Been a while since I've worked on a new song.

Track was made with MS20, Virus Access, and drums in DAW.

Any mixing or arrangement critiques?

>>71355650
>manic compressor

based

feel bad for pirating this one :^)

>>71355650
bump

>>71356748
>https://clyp.it/cgboihjl
Like it until the drop. Make the bass a drone. The drums are already keeping the rythm going

>>71356748
Y'know, I have a few issues with this as a /prod/istic fuck, but overall it's solid and the average normie would probably like it.
My only question is what part(s) did you use the MS-20 for?

>>71358532
Thank you, I'll do another recording and see how that sounds.

>>71358656
I used the MS20 for the bass you hear at the start and the second bass near the end. I usually only use the MS20 for bass, leads, and various blips.

Best drum kits, VSTs, or other sound packs you guys know of? Ill start
>Lo-fi: Beat Butcha(Pure Protien) or Snare Jordan
>Trap: LD, Cardiak, or Young Chop
>Experimental: Clams Casino, NOT YOUR TYPICAL SNARES(Redditor made), or Moonpaw
>Chill: Alchemist v3 or Neptunes<---My favorites
>808s: Lex Luger, Kontakt(808 warfare), or Metro Boomin
>VSTs for bass: Massive or Kontakt
>Plugins: Fab Filter(Essential), or plugin alliance(Less useful but I still use it sometimes)

I can also give links if anyone wants them

>>71355733
LOL I know right....he was such a wanker.

>>71358900
I need Traps Kits plx

>>71359217
Cardiak
>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2DPYMzk1cqSejdpQ1FlcXRNeHM

LD
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwrmZfmNbjAyeVRhcWRhTDg4T0k

Yung Chop:
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/39255v725yhk17s/Young+Chop+Drum+Kit.zip

Here you go ;^)

File: 2017-03-3--02-50-55.jpg (383KB, 1683x1410px) Image search: [Google]

383KB, 1683x1410px

https://soundcloud.com/bucket-collective/big-poppa-pump-nr-f-moll-op5-prod-hooch-mcallister

feedback?

>>71358900
Got a link to that clams casino kit?

File: psflwdkhsai8vfwghs2n.jpg (152KB, 620x465px) Image search: [Google]

152KB, 620x465px

Ok i got an sv-1 as my first step into modular i guess. Wanted to share my first actual recording.

https://clyp.it/2xl0es2q

all sounds from the SV-1. A bit of panning and reverb post-process. Mostly sequenced on a BSP, not drums though.

Feedback on this mixing?

https://clyp.it/dyyz0fye

>>71360243
Also how to set up the compressor to give that bass some punch? It has no attack, its just a mass, i can't fucking change it.

>>71356748
The lead and that middy thing sound dissonant to eachother in a bad way

Is ryzen good for us?

File: SteinbergHalionSonic_03.jpg (310KB, 1000x834px) Image search: [Google]

310KB, 1000x834px

Is Cubase's native Halion ONE good enough for virtual instruments sounds?

Or will it sound like cheap midi or karaoke?

If not what is a good vst that does multiple instruments and synths with realistic quality?
Dont want to download one dedicated VST for each instrument. Or better said, 5 different ones.

>>71359362
>yung chop
thanks for posting this
>metro boomin
>Neptunes
if you could link these senpai that'd be great.

>>71355650
I like it, bass is good. If there are some nice highs in that sample I would bring them out a bit

>>71360066
At 25 seconds it gets really good, I like it. If you want to keep people listening I would either have the intro less dissonant or introduce that high synth that comes in at 0:25. Also the when the drums are introduced half way through it's underwhelming - the overall volume just stays the same. A kick drum with more bass might help.

>>71360243
Good mix in general although sounds panned very far right. Prior to the keys at 0:30 it's unbalanced because everything on the left is much quieter than the right - I would automate the panning so that the stereo image is more consistently balanced. When the keys do come in it sounds good.

I'm attempting to do some trap stuff
Is this drum loop any good?

https://clyp.it/db2so3gw

this is taken me way too long and it's probably garbage. plz roast


it's not completely done, need to add more fx and tighten up the mix.


https://clyp.it/tk52ezg1

File: Synth.jpg (578KB, 1600x1082px) Image search: [Google]

578KB, 1600x1082px

>>71361554
I like it overall. Only thing that stood out was the levels dip pretty aggressively whenever your kick hits and some of the dissonance in the second part is a bit much. Second half is great besides that horn sound at 3:08 and 3:22. Doesn't quite fit in my opinion.

-----

Unfortunately I've gotta put my silly eurobeat thing on hold for a bit while I produce and mix a slam EP for a band... sigh.

I'll finish it... soon.
https://clyp.it/4l1yifwp

Also was messing around with tones earlier and got this. Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/kg5tzvqc

>>71361554
How did you make the bassdrum from 1:12?

>>71360802
I use a Pentium G3250 and haven't run into problems yet

>>71361988
I used a sample, it's a quick beefy kick. I also set the note length to minimum in the ableton midi clip.

>>71361764
>https://clyp.it/4l1yifwp
This actually sounds decent. Little too glossy/cheesy for me, but one of the better eurobeats I've listened too.

>https://clyp.it/kg5tzvqc
not bad


Also, what elements in the second half did you think got too dissonant? the sub/808?

>>71362225
>This actually sounds decent. Little too glossy/cheesy for me, but one of the better eurobeats I've listened too.
Thanks, I'm trying to be pretty self-aware, it's very tongue in cheek.

At the moment I'm debating transposing it down a half step, relaxing the brass a bit, and using more guitars rather than pads. Hopefully that'll open up some breathing room for vocals.

>Also, what elements in the second half did you think got too dissonant? the sub/808?
Just some of the lead lines in that 1:15-1:30 or so area had some erk moments. Could be intentionally, but I think some different dissonant chords might work better.

>>71360066
nice anon! I didn't realize that had Midi to CV/Gate. Did you record each part into your DAW separately, or are there enough osc to have that all happening at once?

really like that synth part at 30s in

>>71361764
>https://clyp.it/kg5tzvqc
this sounds amazing desu senpai

Can someone recommend a good budget microphone for me? My current mic sounds like actual shit and i don't know anything about mics.

>>71362455
what do you want to record with it?
do you have an audio interface already? if not factor that in as well.
what's your budget?

>>71362497
Vocals
Yes and i think it should be pretty good too
Preferably under 50-60$

>>71362455
anything at the $80-100 range should be a decent starter mic

>>71362511
>under 50-60$
highly doubt you'll find something decent for that much

>>71362511
for $50 your best bet probably is the bm800 which is a chink piece of shit with obviously for that price hit and miss nonexistent quality control but if you get a working one it sounds pretty damn good, especially for vocals

I'd advise you to save up like 2-3x the budget and get a 'proper' mic like a (used) rode nt1a or an audio technica at2035 so you don't need to worry about your mic shitting the bed after a couple of months, especially if you're taking this whole recording thing a little more serious

>>71362427
Thanks. I did a second take that is slightly longer here if you're interested.
https://clyp.it/n1hqmlnp

I do of soundscape kind of stuff for fun. Here's another I did with the MS-20. This one is a lot more aggressive,
https://clyp.it/akc4soki

>>71362526
>>71362564
>>71362583
Alright think i'll just save up some more money. Thanks for the help tho

>>71361509
Put a guitar on the left to balance it https://clyp.it/kyxgkn2w

>>71360802
most daws still have a hard time utilizing multiple cores/threads properly, especially vst is apparently a bitch to parallel compute
you won't max out any 2nd gen or newer quad core i7 with audio work, so at least ryzen 7 is overkill performance wise
DPC latency measurements of the am4 platform are not a thing yet, but if they're consistently good like amd used to be then it might be worth considering for near real time ITB tracking environments
too bad the boards seem to only have 4 ram banks so far, since moar ram is still the most important thing for large scale kontakt library shit and similar

Do people actually listen to trap or is it just party/dance/raves music?

File: 1464717675273.png (201KB, 500x373px) Image search: [Google]

201KB, 500x373px

Rate my (((composition)))

https://clyp.it/x4ua2erc

Any tips for collabing with others? I've been trying to make tracks with (non-electronic) musician friends in person. We tend to just improvise rough shit on top of itself and meme around.

>>71363368
MIDI noodle/10

>>71363408
How to make it less noodle?

>>71363368
wayy too on the grid for a natural sounding instrument, loosen that up, also change up your velocity for some parts.

>>71359362
Any non-trap kits? You da real mvp.

>>71363690
Yeah, did just that, and it sounds a lot better. Thanks my dude.

Does 808 fit on latin?
https://clyp.it/cvtb0zb5

>>71361319
Neptunes:
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwrmZfmNbjAydG41Y3E2UnhZaEk

Metro Boomin:
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwrmZfmNbjAyTUs1TWlDRTV0YlE

Got u senpai

how do i get my kick to sound like that ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1hecZxs0M

i can't seem to get it

>>71364837
00:47 i mean

>>71364440
What types synths and trap stuff i can put on this?

>>71361066
>>71361066
help

>>71364860
Sounds like a 909 kick to me with a lot of space cut out for it in the lows

>>71361509
>>At 25 seconds it gets really good, I like it. If you want to keep people listening I would either have the intro less dissonant or introduce that high synth that comes in at 0:25. Also the when the drums are introduced half way through it's underwhelming - the overall volume just stays the same. A kick drum with more bass might help.
Thanks! Yeah, I'm a total noob at drum synthesis, but i'll probably get a better kick some day just playing around. You're probably right about the intro too.

>>71362366
Thank you! It has the midi thing, but i don't use it since the BSP does CV/gate on it's own, so cant tell if it's any good. Synth has two oscillators but i did record everything separately, since i used both for some sounds (and programmed everything on the same sequencer like an idiot).

File: download.jpg (110KB, 1200x700px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 1200x700px

what is, in /prod/'s opinion, the most complete 25 key midi controller out there?
i wanted to like pic related, but actually the quality seems really shitty

what advantages does albeton have over fl studio? I have both and ableton just feels needlessley complicated to do the exact same things.

>>71365185
max for live
session view
an usable interface

>>71362775
very cool info. but how much RAM does one really need? More than 16g? I've never messed with kontakt.

File: 837i658756034.jpg (10KB, 346x250px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 346x250px

>>71365226
>an usable

File: 137160886442.jpg (4KB, 100x100px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 100x100px

I'm interested in producing meme house stuff similar to Ross From Friends, Slim Hustla and etc. Coming from producing hip hop instrumentals, the transition has been really challenging for some reason. Do you guys have any tips? Especially for sampling if possible. I'm using FL Studio 11 btw.

>>71365371
switch to ableton

>>71365371
Where you know that guy in pic from

Why people say its so hard to get a good mix and takes so long to get actually good at it?
Is there more to mixing & producing than panning, adjusting volumes, EQ'ing and using compressors, limiters and effect plugins?

>>71365399
Why?

>>71365561
I'm the guy in pic.

>>71365633
How you doing Dâniel? in pic i gues

>>71365597
why are you so skeptical dâniel? you wanted advice, i gave you advice

>>71362732
Think i finally got it right https://clyp.it/clwrvuzk

>>71365135
kordbot or the korg taktile25

>>71365185
>what advantages does albeton have over fl studio?
none

Is there any reason at all to use Ableton's Impulse? It seems Drum Rack can do much more.

>>71367272
>that link
what is that god forsaken shithole?
please get out of this website.

>>71367404
Whats the problem? Just dont want to use clyp.it cause theyre expiring the files after 24h now

>>71365582
because it's hard to know when to stop adding processing

you can have
>too much eq
>too much compression
>too much reverb
>too much limiting/clipping
>too much stereo widening

and not to mention
>too many parts
since most mixing in professional music is actually done in arranging/recording/sound design most people end up pulling their hair out trying to make their mixes work with an impossible set of instruments/parts.

it's just hard sometimes to know where you went wrong, and it's doubly hard to "kill your darlings" and nix stuff that doesn't work. Finally, most people trying to get "good mixes" are just working with bad songs and they blame the mix for it sounding lifeless when the track is just repetitive and dull.

>>71365226
I'm a bit late to reply but is max for live really good? How flexible is it for making sounds?
I've made synths in simsynth and such, but never made things from scratch.

>>71367435
i guess what i am trying to say is go post your shit music to your shit chan

>>71367437
Whats so hard about it?

>eq
Just do the adequate bass cuts, cut excess frequencies that are mudding up or getting in the way of other instruments and do little boosts where needed.
>compression
Just get everything loud or natural and uncompressed
>reverb
Just a minimal touch to get stereo ambience, and a bit of actual reverb on vocals and leads
>too much stereo widening
Why care

>>71367537
I already did are you retarded? lmao

>>71366597
ableton impulse has built in saturation and timestretch thats the only difference i can think of without looking in the manual

>>71367571
ok, good
don't come back!

>>71367469
max for live is actually very good but kind of hard to learn imo you can make your own audio/midi plugins or make synthesizers with it so its very flexible

>>71367611
I'll never leave these lands
There are boards left on this site where people still dont hate me

>>71367634
I wish there was the same thing on linux with puredata and bitwig, but I should look up at the plugins who are supposed to do that. you can pretty interesting sounds by messing with taking basic chorus or phaser patch and adding sine lfos and arithmetic operators everywhere

>>71367611
why are you so mad about other chans

the only garbage chan is infinity

>>71367716
55chan IS trash

>>71367716
imagine not being able to ignore, filter and hide brazilians

>>71361066
>Is Cubase's native Halion ONE good enough for virtual instruments sounds?
Only for things in the background, they dont sound to good as a main instrument. Depending on the genre though.

For pop/electro, most of them sound allright enough, but if you're looking for something that sounds like it's played by a human, Halion is nowhere near.

You better look around for kontakt libraries for that specific instrument you're looking for.

>>71367711
i think you can make usable puredata devices with juce framework like you are wanting you should look into it

Do you think vocals fit right in this one? What do you think about the vibe of this track? Grooveable at all?

https://clyp.it/wwjsvr4t

>>71361552
not really, Tempo is way to high, you need to at least go down 20 bpm.

>>71367826
I also have a question about Ableton. Do you notice the lead sounds much louder when it hits the high notes? I tried turning down the velocity on those specific notes in the "piano roll", but nothing happened, any idea why would this happen?

>>71367867
Thats when you use a compressor

>>71367899
Velocity should do the trick, I'm sure i'm doing something wrong, there's a reason why they added that feature, not working for me sadly.

>>71367437
>>71367559
Also panning
>bass, vocals & leads on center
>two rhythms hard panned
>stereo drums/percussion
Unless you wanna do different stuff with bass or drums on one side, vocals on one side but even then it aint much work

>>71367899
>>71367867
Or volume automation. Or a dynamic eq that just attenuates around the frequency of that note

https://clyp.it/cj4jzkta
https://clyp.it/2d22x3ar

someone please send me autotune >_<

>>71365664
Doing great thanks.

>>71367996
All good ideas, I'm just puzzled about velocity, shouldn't a note that has maximum velocity sound louder than one that has zero? Both sound the same volume on my daw.

>>71368148
you probably dont have velocity modifying anything what vst are you using

>>71367819
yeah i've heard of two projects for that, both made with JUCE
https://github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile
https://github.com/logsol/pd-pulp
i've compiled the newest non-stable version of camomile and ran into some problems but i should try it again with the stable version
btw, i know how to program in c++ and i would like to make VSTs with juce but (i'm lazy and) i don't what to do that would be useful to program, especially for linux users, other than combining a bunch of building blocks from a library. the problem is that i suck at EE-level maths i guess.
anyway, fortunately the bitwig default synths and effects and its modulation paradigm are great.

>>71368021
You're welcome

>>71368158
I'm just using Ableton and massive.

File: NightDrive-CapitolHill.jpg (121KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 640x480px

>>71368184
This is super interesting. Could you explain what Pure Data as a software actually is because I'd love to experiment with it

>>71368205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTbeEFx7jU

>>71368357
Fugggggg, I know I should've googled that first, but I didn't know there would be such a specific explanation about this topic, thank you so much.

>>71365307
I use a bunch of instruments from the Komplete series and never have problems with my 16gb of RAM. My usage generally never goes above 10GB of RAM according to taskmanager

>>71368297
basically, it's a free alternative to max/msp, and both were originally made by the same guy, miller puckette.
i became interested in that after reading the 2003 autechre interview on the soundonsound website, and it's basically like making electronic circuits, but with digital audio instead of messing with voltages and stuff.
it's awesome to experiment with audio processing, but it is hard to sequence the sounds well in a deterministic way imo, i prefer a regular daw for that.
i learned with this series of youtube tutorials : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgGol-I4gA&list=PL12DC9A161D8DC5DC

>>71368357
By the way, if this doesn't work for someone else try this instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDThBDk8oxo

How do you guys get inspiration for a melody? I can only ever get it by doing freestyle jazz on pianos, but since I only know how to play mallet keynoard instruments (xylo) this isn't a very good method. I don't play any other melodic instruments either.

>>71369267
A melody usually comes to me, you just have to write it then and there no matter where you are or what you're doing.

>>71369267
I start by writing the chord progression and figuring out the key, then I draw patterns in piano roll until it sounds great.

>>71365371
there's nothing especially difficult about making that music. just get a good virtual analogue synth like diva or the arturia v collection, classic drum machine samples, and go to town. it may help to use a drum machine interface like battery or geist. the sampling is mostly a matter of digging and luck. you want to use a lot of distortion, add thickness with synth layering etc. really once you get a groove for the drum patterns it's pretty much dead simple, there's no secret to that music.

>>71369267
i hate writing melodies

i always leave them for last or dont even end u adding them at all... i see melodies as the main element that makes a song what it is, i think i'm just too indecisive and can't settle one whatever melody i come up with.

I think i have over 30 tracks all with complete arrangements for rhythm, bass, and drums... just missing melodies/leads.

>>71369267
let what i have already written loop while i play around on my keyboard

>>71369267
melodies are my strongest point. i have melodies for days. chords however...

>>71369267
Just fool with the triads. Make some cool rhythm patterns within them and voila

I want to starting messing around with music production in Ableton and also some home mixing, what specs do I need to look for in laptop? Mind you that I'm a novice

>>71370230
good cpu, ssd and atleast 8-16 gb ram

let's talk about the most important piece of equipment real quick:
what speakers do y'all use?

>>71370230
Are you on a budget? I'm producing on a Lenovo t420 and so far it's been great, I'll upgrade to ssd in the next couple of months probably.

You won't be able to run serum on more than two channels though.

>>71370398
hs5's and some random subwoofer from a stereo system on really low volume to compensate for the lack of sub bass

>>71370398
JBL 305s

>>71370230
You mainly need a good CPU and 8-16GB RAM as the other anon said, SSD is not a requirement but it'll improve loading times.

>>71370398
Headphones desu

>>71370517
I have like $700 to spend on this.

BTW, what is Serum? Never heard of that before

>>71372832
oN EVERYTHING?

If you are not going to soundproof your room I'm not sure if it's a good idea buying a set of monitors, even less considering you are a beginner.

>>71373235
On laptop

>>71362784
i've never done any of those things, I just listen to trap sometimes

>>71365185
It's not about the advantage, it's about the vastly different setup and UI, which doesn't matter if in the end, you don't like how Ableton Live works. Just choose one you like more, or if they're both good in your opinion, use them both.

>>71365855
Mixing is better and bass is better. Although I would take the whistling out, it's out of tune and it clips.

>>71361552
Kick and snare are loud which is good but the sustained bass afterwards is very quiet and with other instruments added in it won't be audible. Won't sound like a trap song without a sustained bassline.

>>71373235
OP here I produce on monitors in a small room without any accoustic treatment I manage just fine

So every link in the pastebin is dead. Anyone got any good alternative reads for mixing and master?

>>71373357
you should be fine then... maybe buy used to make your money go farther

>>71374131
Farther in what? I don't need entire studio to start making music, laptop and decent headphones will be enough for starters

>>71374162
farther in computing power for the money

>>71361554
Awesome

>>71367826
Yeah it fits. You could cut the vocals into individual notes/syllables and fix it to the grid or warp it, insert warp markers on each note then fix it to grid.
When you can control the rhythm of an instrument you have a lot more freedom

>>71369267
When I can't build a melody I just do an arpeggio. All you have to do is cycle through the notes within the chords you're using

What headphones do you use or rec lads? Been thinking about getting DT770

>>71373235
If your room is big and you listen at a moderate volume then sound waves won't have enough energy to reverberate. Sound proofing is not vital

>>71373235
>>71373918
i too use untreated room with monitors its not so bad but i still have to check my mixes on many different sources as i can

So Live Lite came with my midi controller. I'm finding it really good so far. I mainly record audio, but use a bit of MIDI for bass and drums. Should I bother upgrading from LITE? What other features am I missing besides more tracks?

>>71373983
http://www110.zippyshare.com/v/cBb2OTH8/file.html
i posted this for some anon last thread its not all of them though

>>71374282
i have the 880's and i like them a lot

>>71374309
https://www.ableton.com/en/live/feature-comparison/

it is worth upgrading and if you dont want to pay just pirate

>>71373671
Added real bass and real guitar, and took the whistling away. Did i worsen the mixing on the process?

https://clyp.it/zn21yx44

File: 1466289430779.png (130KB, 232x198px) Image search: [Google]

130KB, 232x198px

>>71375014
>mfw I just listened to this on the recents tab before I came into the thread

it's a surprisingly good track, could use shakers and a bit more sparkle in the high end or something like that

>>71375014
Sounds really good. And I didn't think of it till I read it but >>71375121 is right about shakers. The track is perfect as is but the only real high end you have right now is the guitar and vocals. Again, sounds good

>>71374309
don't get ableton get bitwig reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

How hard is it to learn Pro Tools?

>>71375249
depends on what you want to do with it
some of it is pretty intuitive but some things are downright retarded compared to more 'modern' daws

>>71375276
I basically only need to learn how to record, mix and master

>>71375249
>pro tools
>learn
might as well just kill yourself right now desu

>>71375307
recording is fun with the playlist system and you'll get the hang of it real quick
mixing is no fun, no undo in the mixer and all that old school 'console like' limited bussing is super retarded and slow
mastering, well you can do premasterin as in adjustments to your bounced stereo files but that's it, there's no real mastering as in delivery features like pq, ddp and metadata management

>>71375364
>no undo in the mixer and all that old school 'console like' limited bussing is super retarded and slow
Yeah I actually hate this. I'm doing a sound production course (only 1 year and I got a huge discount), all the teachers are very old school so they're really into analogue equipment. That's fine but why would I want to be good with outdated and expensive equipment? And I was really confused when one of the teachers mentioned that sometimes you can't undo and you basically have to recover the file.

>>71375525
>would I want to be good with outdated and expensive equipment
to learn the basics of all the processing done in mixing
even with plugins that aren't directly modeled after a famous hardware counterpart the job they do can always be easily described with the iconic device which is the origin for a certain sound, fiddling with these and understanding them helps a lot with mixing

Holy shit bros, I'm dowloading Bitwig because I'm in need of the multi-track piano-roll. It's been 5 years on Ableton, I'm nervous already.

>>71356748
I won't lie, I skipped the first minute because I found it a bit annoying. But the rest of it I found it fucking awesome.
I'm not a music guy though

>>71375121
>>71375165
Thanks for the feedback guys here's with shakers for high end. https://clyp.it/nlysg00m

>>71375905
Loving this one, first time I listen to the track, great stuff.

>>71375014
That intro is stolen from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlwBiEhUjig

house tune im arranging (still needs mixing)
https://clyp.it/2wxxbx4h

>>71358532
a bit to much REEEEEverb

>>71360243
sounds good but what happened to your low end?

>>71363368
try running it through a harpsichord for that extra Shakespeare feel

>>71376207
Whats up with the low end? Theres a 100hz cut on everything except the bass, percussion and the 808
The bass has some bass boost, is it not sounding bassy? If i increase its bass boost it muds up

>>71376331
replaced the kick with one on a dedicated channel and didnt add comp and eq to its channel.

>>71376207
layer a slightly longer kick underneath your og kick, or use a slightly longer kick as your main kick. otherwise, it's a good tune, with nice mixing and songwriting, but it's overall kinda boring

File: Wesley Willis.jpg (88KB, 720x480px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 720x480px

I made a quick rock and roll song with a geetor and a drum

https://clyp.it/lfmb3hnz

File: hmmmm+_883a1fe7a099f78d6e9fde3ae78f99ed.png (76KB, 494x335px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 494x335px

>>71376629

>>71370398
Tannoys Reveals X's.
Mostly beyerdynamic dt250 headphones though

>>71376858

Can you hear it at least??

>>71376629
Sounds a bit clipped to me
Nice track besides that

>im trying to get opinions
>but everyone is asleep

>all made within my computer
https://soundcloud.com/meridian777/despondent

>>71367559
Lets hear all your perfect mixes chief

Any Eurorack anons in here?

I'm thinking of building a small Euro setup. I want to start out small, maybe one or 2 modules. I know a lot of the Mutable instruments stuff is multi functional, but can you use these functions at the same time? For example Peaks has many modes and along with it being a basic ADSR envelope it can also work as a LFO. So I'm guessing something like braids and peaks would make a pretty good starT?
I've done the usual lurk on miffwigglers for the last 2 years on and off and it seems that the idea of a small modular starter set up their is a 6-9u set up!

>>71377090
https://clyp.it/eajrpegw
https://clyp.it/y1lad2t1

>>71377122
Obviously thats shit, muddy, the instruments melge into each other, undefined, and deess the vocals, if you think that's perfect you're deaf mate its unlistenable

I just got my first legit record deal with this track. Curious to know what you all think, and how I can improve on this style.
https://clyp.it/p0j4tj2h
>inb4 shitty generic FL house
i produce in ableton, believe it or not

>>71377245
btw this is why I don't listen to fucking clyps on here, you guys don't turn down your highs and its kills your ears. Another reason its important to learn how to mix.

>>71375861
>I'm not a music guy though
nigga pls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1dfvWqdKBM

is this stuff legit?

not feeling the website...

If I have a compressor with a long release, what does it do to the signal below the threshold as the release decays?

>>71377255
who did you get the record deal with? your mom?

>>71377065
>>all made within my computer
really shaving against the grain

File: attack+times.png (37KB, 425x216px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 425x216px

>>71379285
I think it's safe to say you get lower release volume

Does this sound like lacking high end guys? http://55chan.org/mu/src/1488619179733.mp3

>tfw have to record with 2048kb buffer on Asio4all
>fucking delay
>have to rely on that delayed return
>tfw

>>71381096
Why so high of a buffer?

>>71381096
At 64 or 128kb it gets no delay but it starts crackling a bit. The crackling doesnt annoy me since theyre rare but Cubase stops recording whenever it crackles and i have to start another take from that point

>>71381698
Owps >>71381430

>>71380894
That's actually some tasty bass playing & tone

Long time lurker, first time poster here. Please recommend me some essential VSTs for mixing and mastering. I'm sick to death of my shit sounding like shit because.

>>71381879
>amplitube for guitar & bass
>slate digital virtual mixing rack for everything
>valhalla reverbs
That's all i use

>>71381902
Thanks man. I've heard of those, but never tried them. I'll give them a go and see if they work for me

>>71381902
How's amplitude for bass? I've been using Guitar Rig, but haven't been impressed

>>71381943
Have to take care with saturating stuff on the virtual mix rack cause it can end up sounding too compressed and heavy

>>71381961
The same as amplitube for guitar. Less punchy than guitar rig, more natural and a bit too bassy

>>71381096

The count for buffer size is in samples, not in kb - a 2048kb buffer at 16 bits per sample would be more than 23 seconds of latency/delay.

What you'd get at a 2048 samples buffer size is a delay of 46 milliseconds - is that closer to what you're seeing?

>>71381982
Alright, thanks

I posted an earlier version a few months ago, didnt get a lot of time to work on it much further... It's my second attempt at making a song. Do you think it has any potential or should just scrap it and work on something else?

Very early WIP, obviously....

https://clyp.it/wnughlaf

>>71381988
Hm I understand. 46ms aint much isnt it? I think i'm having more than that, it really sucks using for return.

>>71382045
Really it can sound like you just got the sound converted from a saturated cassette and exported in low bitrate mp3
Ok

>>71382202
>low bitrate mp3

So, it can cover the entire spectrum between sounding great and sounding like shit? That's pretty impressive actually

>>71381698
That typically means you've got too much going on for your CPU to handle, try freezing/printing tracks tracks before you record

>>71382202

The buffer will act on the input and output so a round trip (if you played a guitar plugged into your interface for example) would be closer to 96 milliseconds before you heard any notes played, with system overhead (latency added by the DAW itself) you'd be over 100 and that's a tenth of a second, easily noticeable.

>>71382254
Is there a way to fix that besides getting a better CPU that can handle a small buffer?

>>71382254

>92 milliseconds*

Apologies, small maths failure there.

>>71382279

Are you using an onboard audio interface? ASIO4All works but it's not as good as dedicated ASIO drivers that come with third-party interfaces - if you don't have an external interface I'd consider that first before upgrading a CPU.

>>71382316
Yeah im just plugging on the motherboards line in. Interface is the way. Thanks anon.

>>71382242
That was too much of an exaggeration but it can make things to sound really squashed and saturated if you put it to the max

File: 1488640809151.jpg (20KB, 306x306px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 306x306px

>reverse an audio clip in Ableton
>"This action will stop audio. Proceed?"

>>71375779
No instrument rack? How am I supposed to have two different synths on the same channel? No midi export either? Fuck off bitwig.

Pham, what's a good daw that allows to see multiple instruments on one instance of piano roll and its capable of exporting midi?

>>71382537
can't you just make one main midi track for the piano roll and select it as the midi input for the other tracks?

>>71382537
Why would such a thing exist?

>>71382537
>>71382590
in ableton btw, don't know if bitwg works like this

>>71382590
Yes, but you'll have to edit each track separately and, so it won't help with composition.
>>71382597
What do you mean?

>>71382537
FL

>>71382623
>you'll have to edit each track separately
what are you talking about?

>>71382537
cubase

>>71382537
Studio One 3

>>71382537
What does this guy want

File: BW.png (119KB, 1362x598px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 1362x598px

>>71382644
I'm dropping Ableton because I want to be able to view and edit notes from multiple tracks in the same piano roll.

Bitwig works wonders for that purpose, but I'd love to be able to export midi so I could perform live with Ableton.

>>71382672
I think he wants a piano roll that can show multiple MIDI instruments overlaid on each other. Like I asked, why would such a thing exist?

>>71382684
What the fuck. Why is that a thing

>>71382537
>No instrument rack? How am I supposed to have two different synths on the same channel?
There is though. Drag in an FX Layer and then drag the synths into it.

>>71382686
Get a synth vst that can play 2 instruments at the same time

>>71382696

It's been a thing in Cubase since day one too - they Key Edit window in Cubase can show MIDI data for more than one selected MIDI track and it's useful for lining up notes manually without having to go back and forth between parts.

Why does this mix
https://youtu.be/yDJ7Blm6D6E
sound so much clearer than mine
https://clyp.it/dbpogo01

>>71382696
Let's say you find the perfect chord progression for your song. It's way easier finding out the melody if you are able to see the chords while writing the melody, same goes for the bassline.

File: 505353d1445059199-goodhertz-vulf-compressor-_ghz-0002-65800.jpg (164KB, 868x768px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 868x768px

Anyone got a torrent for the Vulf Compressor?

>>71382626
>>71382662
>>71382668
It's a native feature in all of them? If it is I'll try FL just for the memes.

>>71382756
god that's an ugly ui

>>71358900
lofi, experimental, and chill pls? thanks

>>71382795
Relay? It's pretty slick.

>>71382706
Is it possible to automate which clip plays each synth?

File: ss+(2017-03-04+at+05.51.23).png (375KB, 1930x1052px) Image search: [Google]

375KB, 1930x1052px

>>71382785
Here's what it looks like.
Slap a pattern block in the playlist, open it and you can select anything in your channel rack to edit on the piano roll.
Should be exactly what you want if I didn't misunderstand.

>>71382755
That makes sense.

Is there a reason nobody uses Reaper here? I've been using it for the past five years or so and have gotten pretty good with it. But, in the back of my mind, I wonder what I'm missing out on with other DAWs

>>71382857
Fracture rim and taurus hat are on two different channels? If that's right this is what I need. Is it possible to lock notes from a specific channel so when I'm editing notes from other channel I don't mess up? Is it possible to place notes from different channels in the same midi slot without deleting the other?

Thanks anon.

>>71382920
Its shit for virtual instruments & midi programming

>>71382835
Nevermind, I already figured it out, that was the main reason to go back to Ableton, maybe I'll give Bitwig a second chance, I miss arrange and session view though, this seems way more complicated.

>>71383113
That makes sense. I only export tracks from Maschine into it and work with the audio files.

>>71356748
this is good

File: 1488393956308.jpg (29KB, 500x346px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 500x346px

/prod/,

1. If I use some samples in my track, is it still an original mix?

2. Why is Soundcloud considered shilling?

>>71355650
opinions on Massive and Serum?

I filled my mix with analog saturation and analog compressors sims, and now its messy as fuck and with a shitty high mids

Digital mixing is much superior

>>71383262
Is this a bait

>>71383206
Don't even think about using Serum if your computer is not a beast.

>>71383206
>Massive
Good

>Serum
Better

>>71383293
Steven Slate deserves to die

Steven Slate deserves to die

>>71383332
>>71383322
Does serum have really good presets? I've been using massive

File: SC.jpg (103KB, 540x720px) Image search: [Google]

103KB, 540x720px

https://soundcloud.com/gabriel-lefno/sets/the-ruckus

yall cant compare 2 mai arrangements jk
production critiques pls

>>71382970
>Fracture rim and taurus hat are on two different channels?
Yes
>Is it possible to lock notes from a specific channel so when I'm editing notes from other channel I don't mess up?
You can see in my screenshot that the channel i'm not working with is greyed out so you don't accidentally mess up. Only the channel you've selected can be edited.
>Is it possible to place notes from different channels in the same midi slot without deleting the other?
Yes.

File: Awoocap.png (396KB, 1000x900px) Image search: [Google]

396KB, 1000x900px

>>71376629

I adjusted the levels of my rock and roll song

https://clyp.it/fgeoanp0

tell me what you think
https://clyp.it/pgrcmezk

>>71383541
I've never heard anything quite like it!

>>71383571
thanks man

>>71383541

P. cool. The keys(?) kinda remind me of this which is also p. cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJT85rntS_k

Is there a multi-input EQ plugin? I guess, in my mind, I envision an EQ that I can run all my tracks into and see (in different colors) each tracks peaks/waveforms.

Does this exist or am I stuck with having multiple EQ windows open?

Are Waves plugins a meme?

what do you guys think of this mix?
https://clyp.it/rrfgixbd
Should I add more compression or exciters?

>>71384132
Never heard of something like that.

>>71384255
No.

>>71384261
The whole thing sounds really muddy, drums aren't punching through, it sounds overcompressed.

File: metric_halo_uln_8_digital_audio_processor.jpg (34KB, 797x130px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 797x130px

I'm looking for an audio interface in the 1 to 2 grand range for PC. Stability, convertors and preamps are important. What's good these days?

>>71384281
>The whole thing sounds really muddy, drums aren't punching through, it sounds overcompressed.

I tried adding distortion to the drums to give them a bit more punch, but I see what you mean about it being muddy. I'll try cleaning it up a bit. cheers

>>71384324
Start with figuring out your volume levels, drums just sound too quiet compared to everything else, surgical EQing and correct usage of compression up next, I'd advise parallel compressing your drums, gonna get them super crisp and punchy.

.

>>71384132
If you're in ableton group your tracks and have an eq on the group track

>>71384132
check out izotope neutron, it can basically do this

>>71384389
Thanks. I'll take a look and see

>>71384313
Dunno but I like Focusrite stuff as a noob. Pretty Neutral.

>>71384313

Apogee Ensemble (Thunderbolt) if you're using OSX, UA Apollo if not, although the Apollo is a good buy even with a Mac because of the DSP you get with it.

>>71384313
I've heard RME interfaces are the best in that price range.

I asked this before but the response wasn't correct, how do I produce a kick like this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m1hecZxs0M

https://youtu.be/2HRdlaz0_RA

Enjoy. Perfect song for a car ride on Saturday night.

>>71385503
quite nice but please use clyp.it

self promotion isn't allowed in /prod/ threads

>>71383293
No not a bait it really happened, why it would be a bait?

>>71382686
It would help composing, would make it easier to change the arrangement on multiple instruments, and help to create stuff based on other instrument's notes

File: uzLrg2P.png (18KB, 509x411px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 509x411px

/prod/ help. I wanna make a mashup album of sufjan stevens and bones called age of sesh. I've tried something like this before and failed horribly. The only DAW i know how to use is audacity but i can barely install plugins and isolating vocals is a fucking mess. How can i do this successfully?

File: 1bf.png (538KB, 1280x1280px) Image search: [Google]

538KB, 1280x1280px

https://soundcloud.com/teammollymassive/rules-if-acquisition-ft-pillbo-baggins

>>71385218
It's a really muffled kick, get a sample and apply a lowpass filter on it.

>>71386082
You already know what you're bad at, get working on those skills.

>>71386155
Should probably upload it on clyp

>>71386245
>You already know what you're bad at, get working on those skills.
yeah but the thing is i don't know what the fuck i'm doing

>>71386035
>analog compressors sims
>Digital mixing is much superior

If it's sims, it is Digital.

File: pp405Ji.jpg (971KB, 1920x2880px) Image search: [Google]

971KB, 1920x2880px

https://clyp.it/a0lsfws5

heyy /prod/ i've this beat going on. how do you go on when blocked on loop my friends?!? see you

>>71386295
Yes it is
But its saturation and other effects on sound pretty much the same

>>71386431
That's what mixing engineer says to keep their jobs.

It's similar, but not the same, really not.

What's a good all purpose bass guitar and synthesizer for recording?

Spaming

https://clyp.it/t30j1i2v?token=b1c6a51f770ed1272b2709fc13553c4b

>>71386365
Depends on how you produce.

If you got different instruments layered, play with FX plugins on them, cut the files to change the rythm, add your own insruments to make melody.

>>71386487
Brootal

>>71386471
Not exactly the same of course but it does the job
Lots of guys on this board use the Slate Digital analog sims

Good Brass VST please?

Or how to set up this vst i found that isnt working. Cubase says it has 2 mono outputs instead of 1 stereo output, and it gets no sound

>>71386082
Sorry mate, I'm already doing this, I'm using the same name also.

>>71386549
I agree on that!

>>71386155
>liking your own tracks
>making literal meme music
disgusting

>>71386575
you mean you stole my idea?

File: 1475301658471.jpg (45KB, 634x626px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 634x626px

>>71386480
>What's a good all purpose bass guitar and synthesizer for recording?
This is the most confusing sentence I've ever read

>>71386604
That'll teach you

>>71386587
lol

>>71386082

you say you got them tracks but I've never seen you produce

>>71386604
He just stole your identity.

>>71386620
What's so confusing about it?

Feedback on this preview? I'm mixing on shitty cans but I think it's not too bad.

https://clyp.it/2ge2lbhg

>>71386658
do you want a bass guitar and a synthesizer?
do you want a bass guitar that acts as a synthesizer or a synthesizer that acts as a bass guitar?
do you only want one of the two or both?
wtf does "for recording" mean everything is "for recording?"

>>71386884
I'm looking for a bass that can do synthy sounds but also allows you to record to it

>>71386920
I hope you're not talking about a real instument here?
And I've never heard about a plugin that does this.

>>71386920

man you're boviously pretty new at this so think before buying seriously. anyway get literally any bass + some bass synth pedal

>>71386480
Bass - Ibanez Demon Child 5 string
Guitar - BC Rich Jagged Edge 8 string
Synth - Akai Timbrewolf

>>71386856
It's really bad.

What's a good place to ask specific questions about music production? I don't care if it's anonymous or not, I just don't want to end up in a place like www.teenagersproducingedm.com

>>71387377
is this really a question? use google

>>71387377
onlycoolmusic.org/forum.php

File: 1462119957141.jpg (21KB, 380x493px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 380x493px

>>71387477
lol man

https://clyp.it/aslgnp4i

>>71387411
>I just don't want to end up in a place like www.teenagersproducingedm.com
>google
>>71387477
Thanks for nothing.

>>71386920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvzEVazR4Uo

>>71387377
there is no good place really

>>71387561
What questions do you have?

>>71387377
gearslutz, reddit, here

>>71387319
I know mixing is not perfect but what's so bad about the song itself?

File: gettyimages-85045035-f8b6f0e5-c041-4ca1-8485-7f30e0eedab0.jpg (53KB, 700x394px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 700x394px

>>71387904
not that anon. i think that's not that bad man. composition is cool. sounds are stock imho

>>71386856
>https://clyp.it/2ge2lbhg

It's not that bad.

Your biggest problem might be the 2 leads, many people can't understand progessive music or complexe pieces.
You can help this balance with panning, and shfting the volume between the 2 instrument, so there's never a real 50-50 with the melodies.

Other than that the drums can be a little boring, the hi-hat is a bit too much.

As for the mixing, it's not terribad, but sounds really bland, maybe too high.

>>71383190
1. technically yes. If that's what you have to resort to, to make good music, then do it by all means.

2. It's not as anonymous as some would like.

>>71383206
overrated, but ok synths

>>71388056
>composition is cool
Thank you, actually I've been putting more hours into studying theory than getting into my daw.
>sounds are stock
Indeed, would you recommend a any synth in particular?

>>71388127
Great insights anon, I've never thought about that shifting technique you mention, do you think I should hard pan the leads? What do you mean about the mix being too high? Too loud in the higher frequencies? Thanks.

is there any way to add effects on ableton to one track only? i hate how it affects everything.

>>71388459
What are you using for sounds now?

>>71388488
Massive presets, I haven't focused on sound design yet, I know I should but I've been slacking.

>>71388478
what? it automatically does that, just select the track before opening the effect

>>71388579
Don't worry about sound design. Presets are fine, no matter what any "sound designers" tell you. I would throw some reverb on your sounds. They just sound dry is all

>>71355650
What are your favourite plugins?
Go
One I really like is valhalla reverb

>>71386288
Get a DAW, look up tutorials on how it works for starters.

>>71386365
This is the cool, but that's the issue with loops, when you get into that "loop arrangement" mentality, only thing you can do is mess around and add shit, play with filters etc.

>>71386487
I like this.

>>71386569
What kind of brass sound are you going for?

>>71386856
Sounds messy.

>>71387557
It's ok.

>>71388478
What?