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What made you disregard every single opinion he has?

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What made you disregard every single opinion he has?
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His poor writing and incomplete biased opinions.
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>>71323480
i don't. has an interesting take on music for a mans his age.
rather him than p4k getting butthurt because some artist shitted on them in person aka laura snapes
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>>71323506
you do know there's more than pitchfork and scaruffi right? jesus christ /mu/
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>>71323497
this
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>>71323480
this and every other discography he's reviewed.
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>>71323480
I've listened to alot of Elliott Smith and I agree with this, I would only switch the scores of either/or and XO
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>>71323480
I don't know who you're talking about

But Elliott Smith used to be one of my favourite artists

Those rankings aren't that far off I guess. When I was a massive fan I would've rated each one two points higher, but nowadays I don't really listen to ES that much

I would perhaps increase the score of New Moon, which I think is pretty great, and I actually prefer it to FABOAH. E.g. Folk Song in C is one of my favourite ES songs.
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This
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>>71323480
>Figure 8 and Basement on a Hill a 5/10
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>>71323626
what the fuck
did he make this?
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only pedos will defend scaruffis radiohead ratings
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His articles about Trump.
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>>71323657
only pedos listen to radiohead
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IT'S LIKE RAAAIIIIYAAAAAAIIIIN
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>>71323655
Yes. His politics/history pieces are fucking retarded, and I actually agree with a lot of his music reviews so I'm not just a #hater
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>>71323526
like??????
if you say tmt, rym, allmusic, fader, EA
off yourself
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>>71323715
>if you say anything that answers my question you should kill yourself
fuck off
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>>71323761
lmao
so you have nothing
jesus christ mu
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>>71323715
billboard.com
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>>71323685
no u
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>>71323810
i certainly don't
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>>71323767
>>71323790
9.5/10 posts
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>>71323480
praising kanye at all

the mark of a true poser
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>>71323790
damn
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>>71323480
>Things that may annoy you [In the USA]:

>The USA is the only country left on the planet that still uses the ancient Roman imperial system for measurements (miles, feet, gallons) instead of the metric system
>The USA has very few trains and they are terribly slow and antiquated. This forces the traveler to continuously use airports with all the inconvenience (limited and sometimes lost luggage, security checks, lenghty boarding and disembarking, can't bring your own drinks, limited use of electronic devices, bumpy rides, sardine-like seats, impossible workspace, store things away for take off and landing, etc) and obsolence (airports are usually very far from your destination and transportation to town is expensive and/or slow).
>The planes of US airlines are quite primitive by international standards.
>Prices are never the real price (they never include the "taxes")
>Colossal amount of plastic and colossal waste in general
>Lots of homeless people, more than in any other developed country
>Obese people have the same rights as normal people... and they are really obese (airlines will charge you if you have an extra kg of luggage but will not charge someone whose butt takes two seats)
>Huge gas-sucking cars (their "compact" car is everybody else's "full size" car) and very cheap gasoline, a combination which results in a colossal waste of gasoline
>People do not wash their hands before eating and often suck their fingers when finished eating (when you use the utensils at an all-you-can-eat buffet, those utensils have been used by countless people who did not wash their hands), a puzzling behavior by people who are obsessed with deodorants and showers and flossing
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>>71324033
>Air-conditioned buildings (they make you freeze even in the summer)
>Waiters are hysterical about cleaning up your table even before you finished eating
>The USA writes the date as month/day/year instead of day/month/year or year/month/day (a very irrational compromise between the two most widespread formats)
>Anywhere in the USA avoid taxis and shuttles. The drivers can be arrogant and aggressive. They routinely demand a tip, often cheat customers, and are prone to accidents. If you make reservations online, they might ask you to pay the tip even before they show up!
>For mysterious reasons people cannot write the number "9". They write it with a straight vertical line, despite the fact that all their computers and phones show the correct vertical curve (curve, not line).
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>your favorite band will never get a scaruffi 7/10
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>Cohen died in 2016 at the age of 82, but he had been composing the music for his funeral and bidding his farewell since he wrote his first song. Cohen's career was a career of carefully worded, carefully arranged and carefully sung self-epitaphs. "And even though it all went wrong/ I'll stand before the Lord of Song/ With nothing on my tongue/ But Hallelujah".

>Bowie died of cancer in january 2016.
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>>71323480
When he called Phil Elverum "one of the greatest musical minds of his generation" but gave the Glow pt.2 a 6.5/10, the same rating as Pablo Honey.

It doesn't make sense.
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>>71324090
he gives like at least 7/10 to like 80% of artists. What shit artist is your favourite?
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>>71324033
i need more of this list!
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>>71324108
>When he called Phil Elverum "one of the greatest musical minds of his generation"

Where does he say this?
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>>71324033
>Obese people have the same rights as normal people
Scaruffi is truly our guy
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>>71324132
gbv
he gave bee thousand a 7 I guess
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>>71324103
kek
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>>71323480
>whiny sad man with guitar
>anything above a 5
I agree, he overrated this nu-male
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>>71324047
>For mysterious reasons people cannot write the number "9". They write it with a straight vertical line, despite the fact that all their computers and phones show the correct vertical curve (curve, not line).
It's so it doesn't look like a "g"
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>>71323480
>>71324108
>>71324303
These are actually true though. You guys just get protective of extremely average artists.

I don't really like Scaruffis favorites but he's usually dead on about artists that are bad or middling.
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>>71324296
jesus fucking christ
that's the dumbest thing I've ever read
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>was born in Italy
>translates his reviews in italian using Google Translate
Man
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>>71324470
he writes his reviews in Italian and allows people to translate them
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This one definitely.
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>>71324431
Are you stupid? He called him one of the greatest musical minds and then gave one his best albums a 6.5.
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>>71324542
Can you prove that he hasn't listened to them?
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>>71324296
What a bitch
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>>71323480
http://www.scaruffi.com/quotes.html
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>>71324523
Most of'em make no sense in italian mate
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>>71323626
>>71324296
really makes you think
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>>71324575
that isn't even close to his best album you fucking moron.

his project as Mount Eerie has already completely eclipsed everything he did under The Microphones
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>>71324659
it's still a reasonably close runner-up
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>>71324575

When did he say that? I'm rereading his Microphones page over and over again and I can't find it.
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>>71324590
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalog_3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_Memories
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_by_Numbers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooper_Bay_(album)

this stuff is not even available on peer to peer programs (only fakes).
any boc fan can confirm you that no one listened to those early cassettes and albums.
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>>71324608
>"You are located not where you are but what you are."
>"Are we the toilet or the plunger?"
>"Games play people"
>"We are fragile opinions surrounded by hostile facts."
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>>71324431
>Elliott Smith
>extremely average
whew lad
elliott smith is one of the greatest songwriters at least in terms of melodic command of the past 50 years, unquestionably
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>>71324742
>>71324542

I remember someone here emailed him about these and he responded he asked the band themselves for the records.
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>>71324431
I'm not doubting that Danny Brown is a meh artist, but he did create one of the best albums of 2016.
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>>71324575
He called Deftones the "adult" version of korn and tool but their albums are still higher rated than them. Don't look too much into votes, his words ar emore meaningful.
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>>71324780
for me ES either has some GOAT melodies or pretty forgetful. I listen to maybe 5 songs of his that I absolutely love but a majority of the catalogue I can skip

waltz #1&2
Independence day
Baby Britain
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>>71324523
learn the language or get out
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>>71323715
fantano
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>>71324905
+everything means nothing to me
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>>71324908
I actually do but yknow, he is supposed to know Italian, or not?
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>>71324838
But XXX is even better, how can he be mediocre?
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>>71324780
Agreed.

>>71324905
You should listen to his albums again. There are very few songs of his that I don't love. Figure 8, XO, and Either/Or are all perfect.
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>>71324908
>>71324905
Given that those songs are some of the most upfront and in-face melodies of his, I implore you to give his discography another listen and pay more attention to the nuance in his songwriting and how his chord progressions play to his melodies. There's a genuine stroke of genius in almost everything he'd written.
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>>71324296
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>>71323480
The false statements in his Beatles essay
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>>71323497
how is bias bad
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>>71323480
Nothing, the scores may not seem great though relative to his other reviews they are very good - he uses a far different scoring system than most other reviewers which I'd say is great as it prevents scores from being inflated to cater to his audience or because he had only just heard of them.
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Every single opinion he has
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>>71325541
No one but troglodyte plebs (aka Scaruffi's audience) give a shit about scores.
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>>71325526
it's not, but his biases are very strong
plus he claims being objective in his reviews, which is just straight up bullshit
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>>71323707
This can't be
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Nothing,he is right about everything and neo/mu/ is filled with the most disgusting plebs
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the fact that he supports companies spying on people through smart devices in the name of technological progress
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>>71325624

>plus he claims being objective in his reviews

http://www.scaruffi.com/history/cpt0.html

"This is the most subjective history of rock music that one could possibly write."

his own words
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>>71323506
Details
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>>71324033
>>71324047
I enjoyed these
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>>71326857
>But also the most impartial, independent, and balanced.
and he contradicts himself immediately afterwards
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>>71324905
>>71324925
>Skipping Baby Britain
>Skipping Independence Day
>Skipping either Waltz track
>Skipping fucking Everything Means Nothing To Me, arguably the best song from Figure 8
Holy shit apply yourselves
Also Either/Or is his most overrated and Figure 8 is his worst
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Ultraviolence getting a 7/10
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if you disregard scaruffi opinions, what critics do you give credit to? serios question
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>>71327003
yeah but on twitter or whatever he said you should always contradict yourself so it all checks out
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>>71327155
I am my own critic.
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>>71327044
How is Figure 8 his worst?
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>>71327204
Because
>it's his least consistent
>the arrangements are mostly homogeneous and generic
>the lyrics are mostly toned down compared to his other stuff
>Better Be Quiet Now exists
>Bye fucking exists as if Can't Make A Sound wasn't a great closer on its own
>He used the worse version of Pretty Mary K
It's not a bad album but there's no way it tops any of his others.
If you want indie pop Elliott then XO is shorter, much more consistent and much more interesting in terms of the instrumentation and arrangements and also has some of the best lyrics in his entire discography
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>>71327003

How is that a contradiction? He's just saying that he's not paid off by anyone like Conde Nast-fork or Rolling Stone or whatever. He's not a shill.
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>>71324296
>cavemen literally lived in caves
rmyttbqhwyfbiaswcltggtnctuiya
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>>71323480

the fact that he thinks 2 sentences is enough to describe and critique an hours worth of media
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>>71327399
people here seem to think that 2 words more than suffice so I'd say that's a step up
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>>71327310
I think it's definitely more straightforward pop and more simple instrumentally than his other albums, but that doesn't make it bad.

I think the lyrics in Figure 8 are as good as any of his other albums, and Better Be Quiet now is one of my favorite songs on the album. I'm not sure which version of Pretty Mary K I like better, but the Figure 8 version certainly fits the tone of the album better than the other one, and it's a fantastic song in its own right. And I really enjoy Bye, isn't it cool how it's the last track he officially released while he was alive?

Anyway, I think Figure 8 gets shit on for two reasons. 1. It's definitely more poppy and brighter than his other albums, but once again that isn't a bad thing, and 2. The lyrics seem less personal, which I'd argue is a good thing.

XO is also brilliant though. Ranking his albums is impossible anyway. I could talk about this guy all day.
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>>71323480
Scarruffi has always been a fucking moron. People just talk about him on this board because he's edgy and bashes on good music if it's a little too "popular." Anyone who listens to his opinions, without forming their own first is a cuck and pleb.
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>>71327519
back to the needledrop babby
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Personally, Scaruffi has shaped my musical tastes like no one else. Here's my current favorites.
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>>71327438
It's not that it's straightforward pop or too simple. XO is pretty straightforward pop and the arrangements are (mostly) pretty simple on that too. The simplicity is what makes it good because it means that every song is unique instead of Figure 8 where they all start to blur together after a while.

I guess it's personal preference but can you name even one song off Figure 8 you don't think stands up to the rest? I definitely can think of at least one on all of them and I think Figure 8 in particular is the worst offender just because of its length. I agree about Bye, though. I always thought that was kind of interesting.

>The lyrics seem less personal, which I'd argue is a good thing.
I actually think XO was where that started. It's obvious what he's talking about on a lot of the songs but he doesn't really directly connect it to his life. In general it seems like people assume everything Elliott sings about is somehow super personal, which I think is kinda what contributes to the outside perception of him as a whiny indie rock loser.

I haven't listened to Elliott since probably this time last year and I used to have all his stuff on repeat basically all the time. I've been picking it back up lately, though. Have you heard the FABOTH outtakes? They're just as good as anything he ever put on an album, if not better.
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>>71324033
>Obese people have the same rights as normal people
10/10
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>>71327808
Well if I had to pick a least favorite off of Figure 8 it would be Easy Way Out. A little boring compared to the rest. Still a great song though.

Haven't listened to the outtakes yet but I've been meaning to, heard they're awesome.
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IIRC he gave all of Long Fin Killie's albums 6/10.
However, he likes Red Medicine, Guy Picciotto, that guy from Laughing Hyenas, and Roy Montgomery, so he's alright in my book.
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>>71324047
>The USA writes the date as month/day/year instead of day/month/year or year/month/day (a very irrational compromise between the two most widespread formats)
Fucking this. Anyone who defends that shit is a moron.
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>>71324821
Why the fuck didn't he put it on the internet? What a loser
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>>71324303
Love this, the 61 year old man preferred Old (the album that was literally half EDM dance tunes about sex and drugs) more than Atrocity Exhibition, Danny's most talked about and well-respected album.
Fucking hell, what a contrarian.
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>>71324905
>>71324780
i try not to listen to him because his music makes me want to shoot myself (in a good way i guess but still)
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>>71323480
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>>71323626
its so bad i could write a thesis on how wrong this is
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>>71323707
alanis morisette is the biggest poseur in rock history
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the
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>>71324264
To be fair no single album by GBV is all that great, lotta filler and throwaway ideas. They've made some GOAT songs though.
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>>71323626
>cultural collapse in northeastern Europe → Slavs

seems about right to me
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scaruffi truly is the best and most informed music reviewer. you might not always agree with his opinions, but he's sure to give you ample reason as to why he does or doesnt like an album. that's what I love about him.
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>>71323497
all opinions are biased though
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>>71327690
very nice, we have quite similar taste
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>>71327175
This desu
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>>71327690
aha
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>>71328441
We don't though, I've never written it as anything other than day/month/year
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>>71325892
It is
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>>71327690
>>71330533
Spotted the avant-teens. This is just as sad and pathetic as the /chart/ threads where every post is literally just the /mu/core chart re-arranged. You guys are faggots. Learn to think for yourself.
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He's pretty fucked up in consistency and, in a lot of situations, sense, but he has a very interesting take on a lot of things and regardless of everything else, when viewing his top picks when isolated from everything else they are actually usually pretty great albums.
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>>71330533
>>71327690
>when you for some reason want to be an avant-teen but can't even be bothered to form your own opinions on anything so you let pierro "why can't I marry a twelve year old" scaruffi do it for you but you're still just a sad insecure fuck who actually spent the time to construct these charts as if they somehow define you or your music taste in some way as being remotely original and not at all contrived
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>>71330533
>type o negative
>better than anything that comes before it on that list
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Wow, I didn't know he gave Figure an 8.5/10
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>>71324033
>they never include the "taxes"
>putting "taxes" in quotation marks
What did he mean by this?

>things that may annoy you
>very cheap gasoline
There's no pleasing some people.
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>>71324590
I have hooper bay, do you want it? are you still there?
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>>71330652
>>71330707
You really showed them
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>>71323480
His website template is shit
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>>71323497
You know that those are translations of his italian works, right?
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when I saw he capitalizes half of his HTML tags for some reason
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>>71330652
>>71330707
Damn, that's some ownage.
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>>71330652
>>71330707
idiots
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but those are perfectly fair ratings under his metric op. scaruffi is by far the best rock critic
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