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post wips talk learn

>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q (embed)

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.

/prod/ IRC is up!
To join, you can go to http://www.rizon.net/chat
Choose a nick, put #/prod/ as channel. Enter!
Or you can get a lightweight desktop client here https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.
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>tfw still shit at producing
>listen to other peoples music, feel jealous and motivated to get better
>load up DAW
>make some more stupid shit I don't like
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Can I get some feedback on this beat arrangement please? No EQ or mixing done. Just want to know if I should drop or add some stuff.
https://clyp.it/z1zpucfz
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>>71312559
not my type of thing but arrangement is fine desu.
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how do i make drum and bass that doesn't feel like a constant bridge transition section ? i have trouble
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>>71312509
you have to keep finishing shit tracks until you get better
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does this sounds good ?

https://clyp.it/pm4klovq
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>>71314058
Very dreamy, I like it a lot.
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>>71312559
I really like your rhythms and drum work especially around 0:30

https://clyp.it/3jxjlbqa
this is what 25 minutes of Cubase sounds like
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>>71314145
>https://clyp.it/3jxjlbqa
reeee make it longer it has a good vibe this is a tease
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WILL NO KICK FIT
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>>71314186
I already trashed the file

>>71314280
every kick can fit dude you just need to bioster your eq knowhow
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What is the photoshop of the DAW's ?

ableton?
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>>71312636
Thanks for the feedback brother.
>>71314145
>makes killer beat in 25min
>took me a week to make something
why live!? jk, for real though that sounds great. And thanks for listening to mine. Do you have any EQ/mixing/mastering vids you'd recommend?
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Why do girls get wet when they hear my music yet I know it sounds shit? fuck women.
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>>71314514
all of them
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>>71314514
>the photoshop of the DAW's
What did he mean by this

>>71314560
I made a joke track with clipping airhorns and modern talking, sent it to a girl and she kept insisting it was amazing even after I explained the "joke".
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>>71314582
modern talking the 80's duo? no wonder she thought it was amazing. I like them too desu
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>>71314514
most widely used and accepted DAW? Logic Pro

what a stupid post btw, never post again
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>>71314604
as in, the shitty Massive wavetable lmao
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what a stupid post btw, never post again
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Should i learn sheet music? I kinda dont see the point of it when we have piano rolls and shit.
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>>71315157
some daws can do that style of notation but imo its not really needed to know
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>>71315157
Unless you want to compose orchestral music or play a live gig it's not needed.
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>>71314552
>Do you have any EQ/mixing/mastering vids you'd recommend?
read the OP
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Should I get an Korg Electribe2? I had a super cheap small drum machine for a while now and just jamming on it was incredibly fun. It has kinda reached its limits though. I want to get something relatively cheap (under 500€). The Electribe2 is by far the best thing I came across while researching. I had some problems with most other common choices in that price range but this one seems great for what I want. Another thing I can't decide is if the Electribe Sampler would be better. I don't know If I want to sample because I'm really new to music and I just don't know yet. I've seen many people say that the Electribe Sampler is more versatile because of its sampling possibility and that the Electribe2 gets boring after a few months. What's you guys opinion about that? Pros/cons of Electribe2 vs Electribe Sampler? Experiences with it?
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something cool i found - a pdf of the dubstep forum 'production bible'

https://mega.nz/#!GZ0xSBCZ!p_7gAnSkL3zzJWTNs6KJiqKSmPhAk89u3uW0caNzU0Y
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>>71317017
Another question that is probably very dumb: It said the Electribe2 doesn't have "song mode". What does that mean? When I connect it to my daw (fl studio), I can still chain up multiple different patterns in the fl studio song mode right? I feel stupid just asking this but as I said, it would be my first hardware equipment apart from a TE PO-12 that didn't have midi and was just a small toy; and I'm really new to making music in general.
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is the kick in this too obtrusive or sloppy? should i consider switching it out for a diff one? just dunno if it makes it sound too muddy.

https://clyp.it/dlt4xoha
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>>71320193
I'd get a really tight and dry 808 and layer in a sub.
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>>71320295
thanks! i'll give it a shot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEyG3Azh2Os

you guys hear about the new eventide plugin? looks kinda cool
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is getting a cheap midi to usb kabel a bad idea
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>>71320787
potentially, some of them are weird about drivers and shit. if you get one of the branded ones from roland or whoever it should be fine though
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Is there any reason why there's a link to Kontakt 4 in the first pastebin if there's Kontakt 5?
Does Kontakt 5 not work with some of the libraries?
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>>71320827
does every midi-usb kabel work with every device? Like does the "Roland UM-ONE mk2 USB MIDI Interface" work just fine with a synth of a different brand?
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>>71320924
yup, mid is midi... also it's spelled cable lol
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>>71320933
thank you and yes my german side must have come through
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How do people keep their volumes so consistent across all frequencies? I'm trying to make some EDM but my sound levels are all over the place, spikes and dips everywhere, it hurts my ears.
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https://clyp.it/w2ewzx52
how muddy is it, how would you eq this?
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>>71317017
I haven't used an Electribe2, but i have owned several drum machines. If you like the jamming aspect, just make sure it can quickly mute/unmute parts of the pattern in real-time and allows you quickly select/modify/transform a sample that is playing without requiring a bunch of menu diving or excessive button presses.
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>>71321107
mix at a low volume
put an eq or spectrum on the master and adjust channel volumes accordingly
most songs are heavily compressed a few times so they're going to be fairly even
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>>71321107
btw I bet that piece sounds bad. 4-12k should be heaps lower. You shouldn't have it flat like that, the bass will be higher and everything goes down going up the frequencies.

Maybe try reading or learning about mixing and use reference tracks

There aren't any shortcuts to getting a good mix, you can't wing it and you won't get a good mix by accident or because you're special
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I was here a few threads ago asking about harmony and you were really helpful, this is my last WIP, now I've been trying to get into more complex melodies but I'm not really sure if this sounds ok or not, may I borrow your ears for a second?

>vidya game music
>house

https://clyp.it/dbjxuvnp
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>>71315157
If you want to read books about music then yeah. Best way to learn stuff is to read books usually.
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>>71314514
Protools for the old guard
Logic/Ableton for the new

>when all the retards who responded to you didn't realize you essentially meant "industry standard"
It's ok retards I'm here
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>>71321107
Dynamic EQ my dude. Get Nova, it's free.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHFv4mWQYM
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still working though the arrangement/parts
thoughts so far?

https://clyp.it/ecy1ai02
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>>71322706
kick's too muffled
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>>71323061
thanks, i think i got a little fatigued from the kick and didnt notice how muffled it was
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>>71322504
First time playing E melodic minor over borrowed chords.
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>>71320193
https://clyp.it/xgxidib4

is this any better?
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>>71317525

>dubstep forum 'production bible'
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>>71324402
this fits in better than the first kick for sure. i almost think it could hit harder though (eg this style beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk), but i guess it depends on the vibe you are going for.

really nice so far anon.
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>>71317525
> a pdf of the dubstep forum 'how to make genres predictable and boring' handbook

fify
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>>71324668
thanks man. hmm yeah i definitely might still fool around with it. at least i think i have a safe place for it to fall back to now. i'll try to give it some more punch.
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>>71319317

You can chain patterns together to make a song. Its a function that appeared in the latest update.

Main difference between E2/E2S (aside, obviously, from sampling): E2 has more processing power dedicated to the filters, they sound more high quality and you can change the slopes (6db/oct etc).
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>>71317525
dubstep is fucking faggot trash
gtfo
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https://clyp.it/44zq50og

Any thoughts on this? What about the part at the end?
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>>71322504
Come at me bros, willing to take a beating.
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>>71325350
really good instrumentation. end is great.

mix-wise, i think too many things are demanding for the listeners attention. try panning some things out, or send a few tracks through a reverb return track. maybe low pass filter the synth chords a bit every other phrase and let other elements take the spotlight.
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https://clyp.it/iy1afccv

My first production. Ive been practicing but idk i feel like there's still more i need to learn
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>>71322504
sounds good anon

I think the main chord progression could have a little more excitement to it... but all of the elements are arranged well, and very harmonious.
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Is it bad that for sounds like chords and everything, I only use basic, plain Minisynth sounds (FL Studio)? Just saw wave, square wave, sine wave, all layered. That's all. I feel like it's why my shit sounds so cheap and lame.
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>>71325775
dont be afraid to use presets all that matters is the end product
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>>71325619
guitar is great, and processed good too. drums are general midi tier, but that can be fixed with better samples or beefier processing.
timing was pretty rough tho. might try getting used to recording to a metronome if you don't have a drummer playing with you.
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>>71325600
thanks man, good advice! i usually don't make stuff this busy
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>>71325757
I should start trusting my ears a bit more, sometimes I freak out about playing new scales/chords and I start doubting if it sounds ok or not. This is the chorus by the way, there's other chord progression that's part of the verse. I'll try adding some more elements to it either way, thank you so much, man.
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Hey /prod/

Anyone know of any sampler plugins that I can use to make a vocal lead type of sound?

I've tried TX16Wx which is usually pretty good but won't let me automate parameters such as glide time, as well as Reaper and Apple's built in samplers which aren't great.
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>>71326448
Simpler and sampler are godtier.
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>>71326448
>parameters such as glide time,

can you use pitch bend instead?
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>>71324534
>>71324716
>>71325067
classic dubstep.

post your work.
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>>71326469
Thanks for the suggestion, trying to hook up ableton to reaper using rewire but that's not going great :(

>>71326894
Thought about that, works in theory but I have to draw in each transition, which is at least 8 steps of different pitch bend levels for a smooth sound, so it's super time consuming. And ends up not being perfectly in tune
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>>71322706
Good vibes, like the other anon mentioned, kick was too muffled and the track in general sounds like it was passed throw a highcut filter, not enough treble.

>>71325350
Like the other anon said, musically and arrangement wise, this is great, however everything sounds really centered and "jagged". Stereo field is your friend, use it wisely, also I'd eq everything, right now sounds like a lot of frequencies are clashing with each other.

>>71325619
Really nice for your first production, the obvious issue with this is that the drums are way too drowned in the guitar, you wanna bring these up more and mix them with the guitar so that you can hear both of them.

>>71325775
It only sounds cheap if you don't detune them a bit ;)

>>71326448
Harmor is GOAT
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>>71327059
i would import the stems from reaper and work in ableton until the vocal sampling is done i dont like using rewire
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>>71327147
Yeah I'm going to do that

I think ableton is offended now, I can't open it at all
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How do I "import" audio clips to Ableton? That is to say, to get them saved inside of the project, rather than being dependent on having the audio file used, on the same folder it was added from, with the same name it was added with.
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>>71327515
"Collect all and save", you are welcome.
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>>71327531
Thanks you much. Now how do I save the setting I was using with the VST because I just tried saving > new project > loading what I saved, and it loaded the project with default presets for the VST tracks...
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>>71327671
Now that's weird, I'd try collect and save and then save, but that's just a guess, I'm not sure if it would work.
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>>71327761
Yeah that's what I did, I'm thinking I should have only done "collect and save". The VST won't even show up by the way, like I click on the track and it doesnt appear on screen... any idea on how I can bring it on to screen again and select the correct preset?
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r8 this: first attempt at recording any form of music project.

https://clyp.it/24yuny1c

Partial cover of the ending of a song called The Chair by The Monocle.

Vocals (my girly-ass voice), accordion, a snare, and me thumping a fist on my chest disguised as a kick. Recorded with a takstar shotgun mic attached to a nikon D3300 and stitched together in audacity before applying a lot of reverb. Drums are off beat because they were recorded last (I fucked up), more of a test to see how they would sound.
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>>71327870
Pretty weird, it works wonders for me, I wish I could be more helpful.
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>>71328232
Man it happens no matter what I do.. I'll try googling. Thanks for trying to help regardless~
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>>71314514
If you mean overrated and overused, probably FL Studio tbqh

If you mean industry standard I'd probably say Protools, Logic, or Ableton.
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>>71321107
>it hurts my ears.
probably cause its EDM
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>>71314514
you are either a pro gd and know what a shit program ps is, or you are a foolish noob gd and think ps is industry standard because its great.

i'm guessing the latter
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>all the mega links in the paste bin are dead
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How do you guys not quickly get bored and lose care for what you're making? Because for me, the magic quickly goes away and I can't go back to it.
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>>71330521
what exactly from it are you looking for
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>>71330577
The e-books
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Is there a way to fullscreen 3rd party VSTs in FL? I just got a second monitor and I want to blow up my maschine VST to full size.
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>>71330613
i didnt have all of them but these are the ones i did http://www110.zippyshare.com/v/cBb2OTH8/file.html

>>71330736
in settings tab check the dpi aware when bridged and then go to the processing tab and check make bridged and external processing
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>>71331204
Sorry for being a pest, but I can't seem to find the external processing option
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>>71332025
its because im a retarded faggot and meant the external window setting
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>>71332091
Yeah, thats what I thought you meant at first, so I went ahead and tried it with no luck. Oh well, its not really a big deal for me right now, but its kinda disappointing since I bought that monitor just for that purpose.
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>>71332091
Is that Gary Glitter?
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>>71332436
the only other thing i can think of is to click that arrow next to the wheel icon and uncheck the detached option in the dropdown
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new to ableton, what are some good kino tutorial videos to help show me the way around? I'm coming from a background of analog synths, and I'm at the point where I can make drum patterns and midi instrument tracks. But i'm lost when it comes to knowing how to edit an instrument's sounds, like cutoff filters, adding oscillators, etc.

Kinda hoping to replicate an andy stott / lobster theramin sound to begin with
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Is there a math to apply to music in order to make it more perfect? I'm not a good music producer and I think it'd be cool to have something like that.
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>>71333255
You can study chord progressions and distances between notes in good melodies but math will never be able to make you a good piece of music
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>>71333255
have you tried learning music theory or sound synthesis?
sometimes i google the sheet music for some top 40 song, copy it as good as i can in my daw, and go from there.
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>>71333465
>math will never be able to make you a good piece of music
Tell that to my Excel spreadsheet, kekekekek.
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fuck me I need help

>Have hardware synth (Novation Supernova)
>Recording in Ableton
>Have a MIDI track for the Novation
>can play the synth just fine
>the second I hit Record and I hit the first key, get this feedback loop thing going on
>If I disable Local Control on the synth, then the feedback loop dissapears, but then I cannot record my knob movements

pls help.
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https://soundcloud.com/30dollarbill/chipotle
I hate fl studio its too hard fuck this
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>>71334026
REEEEEEEE RICH FAGS GTFO
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>>71334100 (You)
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>>71334100
>>71334557
don't listen to him anon, everyone starts out sucking complete ass. if you care about it power through
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>>71334100
>>71334557
>>71334636
good meme tho
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>>71331204
thanks for the books senpai
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>>71334636
>>>/trash/
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https://clyp.it/bhwcr0iq
who wants to tell me what's wrong with my mix
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>>71334804
no takers ?
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>>71335038
it says 404 when i try to go to it
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>>71329130
What's better than photoshop?
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>>71332722
there's ableton beginner tutorial on tpb
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>>71334026
maybe the way you've connected it up, or prefernces of your daw, choose both incoming midi and outgoing
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>>71326448
I've been looking into this myself lately and there doesn't seem to be a perfect sampling synth.
Iris 2 is pretty limited in its automation, but is otherwise very solid. Being able to draw to pick out certain parts of the sound is very nice.
Alchemy is very good at creating smooth loops without clicks, but again automation is lacking imo.
Harmor is probably the best I've tried, and has the best automation capabilities of the three, but it still can't automate things like loop length (at least from what I've found). Simple samplers such as those included in Ableton and Bitwig have that functionality but they lack the resampling refinement that the other synths have, making them a bit choppy and not ideal for smooth vocal synths.
So I've just accepted that there is no one perfect sampling synth. I'll be sticking to harmor for the most part myself, even though it's a bit buggy on mac.
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What kind of saturation did Lil ugly mane use on this track? The vocals at 1:00

https://liluglymane.bandcamp.com/track/passion-sceptre-dert-mystery

Thanks
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whats up freak bitches

https://clyp.it/i1dlfdnn
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>>71337905
You need to make adult swim bumper music.
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>>71337905
Feels almost like Halloween music. I mean that is a good way.
>>71337925
This is also true.
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>>71312509
V Thats literally it, just keep making trash until you finally get the sound you want. Experiment do some weird shit do what you wanna do and have fun with it
>>71312975
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>>71332722
read
the
manual
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>>71338139
ableton also has some built in lessons on what hes talking about
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>>71312450
https://clyp.it/naxsvwys
What yall think? As a interlude and as far as mixing goes?
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>>71328863
The only industry standard is ProTools btw, anything else is either home studio/bedroom producer tier.
Go to any professional studio, or mastering engineer's home studio, only like 5 out off the 1 billion engineers and studios will be using something other than pro tools as their main DAW
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>>71338462
Protools is definitely the Photoshop of DAWs, as it's the industry standard for recording sounds from the outside world and editing them to make a composition. Ableton is probably the Illustrator, where you create stuff from scratch using mainly the tools within the suite, no "photography" needed.
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>>71338462
cubase is really good imo even compared to protools because cubase has good multitrack recording capabilities and it has literally the best midi editing capability of any daw
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https://clyp.it/kq0lesdf
Can I get some feedback on this wip? how does the a section compare to the b section, are there any mixing issues? any problems with any of the sounds or samples used? also how is the piano at the end sound, is the layered recording alright and fitting, and I tried to lazily humanize the notes in the piano roll for the piano, does it sound good?
>>71338254
I like this a lot, except for that second melody at :13 seconds, and also, maybe it's the sound you're going for, but I feel that your hats or snare or both could have more high end bite to them.
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>>71338669
@ 0:13?
and could you explain what High end bite is?
I have not a clue and Thanks!!
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>>71338703
Sorry, I had the wrong clyp playing when I was responding. https://clyp.it/kq0lesdf this clyp I also really like, it's very flyloesque, and the mix is really nice sounding imo, very wide and lush. As for "high end bite" I suppose what I meant was simply high end frequencies, which I thought was possibly lacking in >>71337905 this anons mix
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>>71338789
oh? okay then...
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Anyone got a download link for PSP Vintage Warmer 2?

I got the Pirate Bay one but the VST wont appear when I open Ableton. The torrent was from 2007 so I probably need a newer version.

I would seriously appreciate it if someone could find it for me.

In return, a dumbed down visual representation of compression for anyone struggling to understand.
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>>71339051
rutracker needs to be in the op seriously it has 2.5.2 what u want and many other shit fags ask for
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>>71339107
Found it, but same problem, I installed it copied the .dll files to my VST folder and it still wont appear in Ableton.

So disappointed because I've been dying to use this
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>>71339389
you might need to reauthorize ableton i have a real license and sometimes newly installed plugins will not show up so if you cracked it you might try reinstalling
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>>71339530
Didn't work either. I'm very unlucky with everything in life and this time is no exception. I even downloaded the original demo from their website and that didn't work either.
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>>71338669
The main loop thing is too low mid, I would reduce the low end, overall pretty boring and generic
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>>71321107
Multiband compressor! Although your highs shouldn't be quite so high to begin with. Try to EQ each track so it occupies its own frequency range, and cut out any unnecessary frequencies.
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>>71339389
You can get the same thing with u-he satin, j37 tape, fab filter saturn and klanghelm saturation
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>>71337605
After some searching yesterday I installed the free version of DiscoDSP Bliss, it's a bit tricky getting a smooth loop but otherwise sounds great, and it works like Massive for automation so it's super easy
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>>71339051
lol, it's so simple when you put it this way, and now that I think about it, it makes complete sense, and I'm a bit angry I didn't completely understand compression in the first place.

>>71339918
>The main loop thing is too low mid
A lot of my sounds and synths end up like this for some reason, I either really like this area in the frequency range, or I just don't know how to make good sounds in higher pitches..
thanks for the listen lad
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>>71339389

Why are you installing to a folder that isn't already your VST folder?

Moving the dll files after install works for lots of VSTs but not all of them, all it takes is for the installation to have written a single registry key that points to the original installation folder and the VST would be gubbed.

Change the installation options to have the installer place the dll files in your VST folder.
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>>71340532

I need to add that this is especially true of cracked VSTs, since the crack might also create registry keys that point to the dll file's original location.
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>>71340532
>>71340658
I tried it before and I just tried it again and it didn't work either.

Makes ZERO sense to me, honestly.
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>>71339946
Which of all those would you recommend the most? Which is most similar to VW2?

So many people in my scene (house / techno) recommended PSP VW2 almost as a must-have plugin, but since it wont work for me I guess I'll try another one out.
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>>71340920
They're all great just choose one
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>>71340920
btw I had the same issue, p2p vintage warmer didn't work for me in albeton.

There aren't really any bad plug ins especially the ones you pay for. You just have to learn them, read the manual spend some time with it.
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imma bump this shieet
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https://clyp.it/xdipqsud

idk what i was doing in ableton but I am sure I was putting very hard work for this garbage. Any suggestion on how to polish it (especially for the mixing)?
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>>71342619
there is a note in the first guitar chord/sample that is out of key. p good vibe tho anon
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>>71334026
i had this issue on my moog, i think i fixed it by turning off incoming 'remote' messages for it in ableton under the midi preferences.
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>>71339955
This looks pretty good! I'll try it out.
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>>71322706
>>71323061
>>71327069
there actually was a lpf on that kick and didnt realize, swapped it out anyway...this kick better?

https://clyp.it/wy5rlav0
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Is the only thing you guys do here is make "beats"? Do none of you produce any actual music?

How embarrassing.
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>>71342619
lol truly awful my man but at least you've made an effort

learn music theory, what notes go where and why
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>>71314514
1 ableton, 2 cubase 3 fl 4 logic
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>>71343337
Music theory is a myth.
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>>71343733
why didnt beethoven just compose on pots and pans then
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Can anyone tell me if this is any good?

https://clyp.it/user/41novmbl
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>>71343748
maybe he did
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>>71343897
>this account is private

rtard
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>>71343941
Fug I fixed it whoops
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>>71343954
try posting a track
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>>71343971
Kms

https://clyp.it/pejj215s
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>>71343995
sounds like more of an experiment than a track

add some percussion i guess? and fiddle with the processing some more? idk lol it needs more ideation and iteration what can i say
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>>71344039
Thanks for the response. I'm trying not to do percussion on this track, do you think there's a way to get it that feel or whatever percussion would add to the so g without actually adding percussion?
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>>71344073
maybe use some plucks or percussive synths, perhaps with a lot of reverb for atmosphere

to make a good track you have to add a lot of layers which work together well
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>>71343050
fuk

turns out it's time limited

so if you want to use it for anything, better render some stems asap
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>>71312509
Well all other successful artists never put any effort or hard work into learning their instrument, why should you?
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>>71312450
Please criticize, personal insults only

https://clyp.it/ftuenyqe
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>>71343335
>doesn't post a clypit
>clearly can't make beats or actual music

how embarrassing
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>>71344427
Ok keep making "beats" kid. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough for some bull to rap over your stupid shit lmao
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>>71344691
i dont make beats though
https://clyp.it/3skuiabp

also
>still doesn't post clypit
kek
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>>71344691
would a guitar driven r&b beat be better? are real instruments real music? try to be a bit more subtle with the shitposting newfriend
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>>71344691
would a guitar driven r&b beat be better? are real instruments real music? try to be a bit more subtle with your shitposting newfriend
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>>71344691
>i make reel music with muh geetar
are you lashing out because you're becoming more and more irrelevant?
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>>71345185
>irrelevant
Says the guy making shitty "beats" alongside literally millions of other retards doing the exact same thing. Couldn't get more irrelevant than that if you tried.

There is no 'up' for you. There is no path to progress upon. You'll just keep circlejerking in your shitty general thread for the rest of your "musical career".
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>>71345330
sup jelly poorfag, haven't seen you in a while
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>>71343733
>https://clyp.it/wy5rlav0

Music theory is the understanding of the thing humans call "music", and certainly it's no myth

it is not a must know in order to create music,
but knowing some can increase your ability

basically knowing it can help you make things sounds, or have a certain emotion
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>>71344108
Thanks I think I'll do that

As for layering and any other criticism what do you think of this?
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>>71344108
Kms again

https://clyp.it/pgw5idpn
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>>71345330
>Couldn't get more irrelevant than that if you tried.
yes you could, you could be you and doing something that millions of other people are also doing that isn't even culturally relevant anymore like electronic music is right now
>There is no 'up' for you. There is no path to progress upon. You'll just keep circlejerking in your shitty general thread for the rest of your "musical career".
why dont you tell us about some of the things you've accomplished in your career?
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>>71345760
I have a band. We tour through several states, play gigs, fuck hot fans, etc. Keep posting your stupid shit here if you enjoy the circlejerk but don't pretend that you have any semblance of relevancy.

Also, there's a difference between making electronic music and making "beats". 98% of all the shit I've seen here is the latter and frankly it's embarrassing.
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>>71345829
>I have a band. We tour through several states, play gigs, fuck hot fans, etc.
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>>71345859
>jealous
Hey I can't blame you to be honest. Must suck making shitty sequences that literally nobody is going to listen to or care about at all.
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>>71345829
>>71345943
>>71345330
>>71344691
>being this butthurt over kids posting their wip beats
>not realizing there are pros in here better than you NOT complaining
wew lad
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>>71345829
>>71345943
post some of your original work
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>>71345829
lol so you're in a bar band and you think that's gonna make us jealous.you must be really fulfilled as a musician to feel the need to come here and shit on amateurs. also i'm sure you're taken very seriously by other musicians when you act like your taste is objectively correct and shit on whole genres lol
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stop replying
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>>71345943
>>71345829

What's it like to play shitty sabbath and led zepplin covers every weekend for a bunch of alcoholic middle aged guys who are trying to relive their highschool years?
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Can several anons tell me what genre is my music please?

I'd say some sort of Drum & Bass but I have no clue.

https://clyp.it/i4hrrpu3
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>>71345994
I'm not into the idea of shameless self-promoting on some silly anime joke forum.

>>71346001
What genres did I shit on? Electronic music has its merits, hip hop has its merits, what most of you guys are doing has virtually none. It's pathetic.

>>71346106
Nice assumptions there hotshot. Most of our fanbase is late high-school to early college. We do covers sometimes but not overplayed dadrock garbage. Nobody who comes our shows wants to hear that shit.
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>>71346339
no, you only use this silly anime joke forum to masturbate your fragile ego lol

i bet you're the superfluous bassist in your shitty band lol
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>>71346339
>hotshot
>shit talks and makes assumptions about everyone
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>>71346339
>self-promoting
but it would only be that if you posted it without being asked for the purpose of getting listeners. what we actually want is to see if you at least have the talent to back up your self-importance
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>>71346339
if you are so good why don't you actually be helpful instead of hurtful?

like seriously how can i improve this?
https://clyp.it/jjdykdgq
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How to better mix this, and how to master it

http://55chan.org/mu/src/1488485383333.ogg
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>>71346339
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>>71346375
Haha no, our bassist doesn't get any pussy. He's a great bassist too it's just that chick's don't care about that.

>>71346401
Not trying to talk shit, just telling it how it is.

>>71346433
>>71346497
Sorry guys I gotta go. Before that though I just want to say that I made all of this up. I'm just having trouble with a beat I'm working on. It's really frustrating and I needed to vent. It's gonna be good though I promise.

Lmao just fucking with you. I have a gig in three hours and I need to get ready. Good luck with tour "music" you sad little dipshits.
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>>71346735
>being too afraid of strangers' opinions to post your music but still trying to talk down to them
truly pathetic
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>>71346339
No if your work was any good, you would post a clip with no title or way to tell who posted it. You are such a failed musician that you cannot even compete with the amateurs and beginners who post here
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Whan a compressor has the attack and release in just numbers, not in ms, does it act the same way, or is it backwars? I can't fucking set a compressor
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>>71346773
but didn't you hear? he does sex to gurlz! it's obviously because of what a ROKKNROLL GAWD he is and not just because it's not that hard to take a girl home from a bar
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>>71346735
>Not trying to talk shit, just telling it how it is.
1. You have no credibility to tell it like it is. And you have proven that you have zero by uploading zero samples. Your opinion is not worth shit
2. If you were telling it how it is, you would offer constructive criticism instead of being a giant douche
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>>71346735
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>>71346735
i sell more records than you and don't even have to tour tho
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First "real" song I've been trying to finish (i.e. not ambient soundscape nonsense). The opening is down pretty much pat I think. Been going for a sort of Einsturzende Neubaten meets Death Grips vibe.

https://clyp.it/wxgeiaeo

(Yes, I know the drums aren't quantized)
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>>71348378
to clarify, this is just the opening, not the whole song.
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>>71330522
Just put it on the shelf for a while and start something new. You can come back to it in a few weeks with fresh ears.
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>>71348378
Don't post things that you know are not good enough even for yourself, ie your drums quantization.

Other than that you need to use compression or volume things to town downed your drums when that big saturated synth kicks in. You need to give that synth or whatever it is space so we can hear it full and "clear".

So far it's burr mud. But I like the ideas.
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>>71348378
This is your non-nonsense song? Sounds like experimental noise to me
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>>71337925
I would luv to do this

>>71338056
thanks man it's good that you get that vibe from it was going for something dark

>>71338789
cutting out alot of highs for vocals
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>>71346790
The FG-116 is based on an 1176 compressor. The attack and release knobs work the opposite way you would expect; turning higher towards the 7 means a shorter attack/release time
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>>71348378
some of the synth needs more attack, the drums could be compressed more
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>>71349122
Alright lets get this straight.
Its the only compressor that works backwards like that?
The red compressor has it written "slow" towars the higher value. The other compressors don't, and have the same visual structure as the FG-116, dont have Threshold etc
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What would you try in order to emulate this sounds?

https://clyp.it/2wyycozq

I tried 'convert harmony into midi track' in Ableton but I got nothing, usually this is how I figure out midi progressions.

Does this sound like a chord progression at all? I'm really confused and fascinated by this.
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>>71349635
>this is how I figure out chord* progressions
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alright i'm trying to get back into fruity loops. oddly enough, telephone line by ELO inspired the key and sound of this but it's sounding nothing like it so far. i was thinking of adding some rock elements or going more for an orchestral atmospheric thing, i'm not really sure.

https://clyp.it/nao0s24t

tips on where to go from here, lads?
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>>71345829
Lol I'm sure my "electronic music" that I still call my "beats" has made me more money in 5 years than you will in 10 lifetimes - get over it. People have to start somewhere, don't be such a cunt next time.
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>>71349656

Work out the very first chord and you're done - Lone (and a lot of old school rave musicians) use synths with chord memory to create their sounds, although in this example he's using a sampler instead but it's the same principle, a single chord pitched up and down acting as the basis for the entire progression.

It's easy to test this - sample the first chord of that example track into your choice of sampler and play a "melody" with it.
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>>71351487
Actually I though about this because I know he does this with 7th chords a lot but I never tried it. I'll see if it works, thank you man.
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>>71351487
It worked perfectly, that was really helpful.
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Is it a bad idea to use a stereo amp + speakers as monitors? Will it give me extra latency or some shit? I'm shopping around for monitors atm and getting fucking sick of recording using headphone :(
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>>71351742

No worries Anon, and now you'll hear it everywhere!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXU5Rxc3vBQ&spfreload=10
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>actually like the first jingle I've made
is this a bad sign
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>>71351834
Amazing stuff anon, hopefuly this won't take all the magic away.
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https://clyp.it/fwslauk4
just made this today
thoughts ??
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>>71352226
nice programming/harmonies

you need to loosen up that sidechain compression happening at the beginning on the synth bass, its needs to pulse more in between drum hits to create a groove. Similar issue with the slap bass that comes in, i bet if you move that entire bass line back 1/8th note it will fit in the pocket better.
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>>71352579
how does it sound now?
https://clyp.it/njszckkq
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>>71352226
>https://clyp.it/ecy1ai02
100% just my opinion but I think it sounds a bit harsh, like there is a little distortion on everything individually which adds up to a lot of distortion. Also distortion on everything makes some of the synths and sounds less effective or unique.
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