/metal/

What is the nu-male movement? We must know it so that we can deny its advances when it comes to tempt us.

Nu-male is safe but progressive.
Nu-male is accessible but intolerant.
Nu-male is intellectual but facile.

Nu-male is a product invented from whole cloth, an unnatural academic foray into metal, adorned with stolen designs like a Christmas tree with baubles - and no less commercial. Nu-male is an appropriation of the sound of danger, and thus represents a marginalization and disenfranchisement of the progenitors and true artists that work with that sound. Nu-male does not celebrate its origin; nu-male uses its origin as the basis of a semantic fallacy in order to bootstrap its own agenda into legitimacy. The often-mocked term applied to it is actually entirely accurate: nu-male is untrue. It is false. It is a sheep in wolfs' clothing. It is a cultural assault perpetrated on a genre that is already made defenseless by way of its own defense: the isolation from the mainstream. With no representative in popular culture, the industry and critic complex are free to plunder the vaults of true metal, cobble together whatever disarmed Frankenstein's monster they please and sell it to the general public as a morally safe and forward-thinking product - as socially or artistically "acceptable" metal.

True metal is not acceptable. It is a hate crime.

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>Yes I do listen to Deathspell Omega
>Why do you ask...?

danger

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Opinions on Boris in /metal/? I know they get a fair share of love outside of /metal/ on /mu/ in general, but what about here?

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This, and I'm being completely honest, might be one of the greatest thrash albums ever made. People will argue and throw this up against a bunch of albums from the 80s. But that's just looking at the past through rose-colored glasses. Too many metalheads are stuck in the past, at least in my opinion. I don't care how old an album is; if it's got incredible songwriting chops, creativity, attitude, musicianship, and just all-around passion, then it's a classic. This album nails all those aspects right on the head. As time rolls on, this work of art will be solidified among the all-time greats such as Rust in Peace, Ride the Lightning, Reign in Blood, The Years of Decay, Spectrum of Death, and many more. HAIL VEKTOR!!!

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Well this is turning to shit already

Post some good 2017 albums

>>71292851
they aight

>>71292851
dumb frogposter

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>>71292851
this one's gud

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New Disma

https://soundcloud.com/profoundlorerecords/disma-the-graveless-remains

Breddy good imho

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>This release has been blocked from sale in the marketplace. It is not permitted to sell this item on Discogs
Bitches

>>71292851
Pink is pretty fun, rest is boring shit

>>71292836
>high schoolers listen to deathspell omega now

man when i was in high school my favorite bands were avenged sevenfold and slipknot

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Metal for this feel?

inb4 Vektor

>>71292929
Who cares? It's okay generic black metal with a slight melodic bent. You can listen to their stuff on bandcamp.

>>71292957
Terminal Redux

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post groovy deathcore

>>71293148
you first

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>genre: melodic death metal

>>71292928
not bad but towards the megalith is gonna be hard to top but guitar tone is killer, riffs aren't bad, and they're holding true to their cavern core stuff.

>>71293148
all sludgewave

>>71293633
is that a real genre

>>71293633
>sludgewave
>groove
topkek

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>>71292876
sweet proto-metal, these guys finally got it together

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Haven't really listened to much metal since I "grew" out of it besides some select albums (pic related), looking for some actually good metal for me to get back into.

>>71293847

see

>>71292852

>>71293847
Any certain genre preferred?

>>71293847
don't bother posting here if you actually want recs, all you'll get is """ironic"""" replies recommending shitty bands and called a nu-male

>>71293877
doesn't really matter, I prefer more avant-garde stuff mostly

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>>71293905

>>71293928

I seriously doubt this dissonant abrasive shit would get anyone back into metal dude

Interesting stuff, though head ache inducing

>>71293847
TOOH! - Rad A Trest
Menace Ruine - Cult Of Ruins
The vast majority of the Deathspell Omega discography starting from Si monvmentvm reqvires, circvmspice
Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape
Flourishing - The Sum Of All Fossils
Howls Of Ebb - Cursus Impasse: The Pendleomic Vows
Clutch - Blast Tyrant
Church Of Misery - Houses Of The Unholy
Bongripper - Satan Worshipping Doom


If you want particularly le avant garde sporky stuff like Pan.Thy.Monium

Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pandora's Pinata
Unexpect - Fables of the Sleepless Empire
Dir En Grey - Uroboros
Thy Catafalque - Rengeteg
Jute Gyte - Perdurance

>>71293994
honestly this is way better than if someone had told me to go listen to ghost or something like that, definitely interesting

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>>71292876
need more 2017

>>71294029

kudos to you then for giving it a chance instead of writing off out right. I find it interesting myself but in no way enjoyable

>>71293847
Lykathea Aflame tbqh mon ami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IArBw3XIzF4

>>71294028
Thanks man, already listened to sigh, deathspell, and church of misery (never really took the time to get all the way into them though). I'll definitely check this stuff out

>>71293847
in the vein of pan.thy check out Timeghoul, !.t.o.o.h.!, The Chasm, Afflicted, Phlebotomized, Neglected Fields, Maudlin of the Well, Crypt of Kerberos, Gorguts, and Atrocity

>>71293847
also this is kinda coo bass heavy stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQYlRjb-ANU

>>71293562
Also, >Techdeath that uses dissonant riffs and antireligous lyrics in a subtle but enlightening way

>>71294230
>anti religion is bad
It baffles me that people enjoying one of the most visceral genres can have their feelings so easily hurt by someone saying they don't like religion

Also melodeath and particularly tech death are great man

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>>71294373
>Also melodeath and particularly tech death are great man

>>71294373
My feelings arent hurt by the anti religous statements, its just the redditors that they attract that makes me cringe, and this comes from someone that actually enjoys melo and techdeath, even disso stuff like gorguts and portal.

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What did he mean by this?

>>71294373
>DUDE SATAN
>DUDE SCIENCE

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>>71294864

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>>71293562
>genre: avant death metal

>>71292957
Fear Factory - Expiration Date

>>71295244
I GOT
NO MORE
GOD DAMN
REGRETS

>>71294864
the guy literally said in that thread that he meant metallica have a more depressing outlook on things in their lyrics than bands like black sabbath, he didn't mean that their music is doom metal

>>71292851
I will applaud them till the end of time because of New Album

They are usually hit or miss with me; usually miss because they choose to indulge in amp masturbation over songwriting

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Rec me similar

black sabbath isnt metal

>>71295626
Gorerotted - Mutilated In Minutes

>>71295890
metal is black sabbath

>>71295890
Neither is Motorhead

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I like this album quite a lot

>>71296111
trips confirm

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i can't stop grooving to this

>>71296128
man, these melodies so good
what's some good folk metal that's not about drinking beer, fairy tales and living in the woods

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Just listened to Karisma and SALADSWORD, tell me my next Sabbat album.

>>71292819
get over yourself

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>>71296222
Evoke

>>71295890
sabbath invented doom

>>71296222
>>71296245
nope. go for envenom first

>>71296245
>>71296260
Thanks guys I'll check both of them out. Really liking these guys, I usually only listen to one album by a band before moving on to another band.

What are you guys hyped for for 2017?
For me: new king diamond and la guns.

>>71296499
New Sleep and High On Fire are supposed to come out apparently.

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>>71295890
>>71296111
>The two most important metal bands of all time
>Not Metal
This is poserdom on a whole new level

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What are some overshadowed gems?

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>>71296923

>>71296974
But that's typically agreed to be their best release, how is it overshadowed? Unless you mean overshadowed by greater genres because it's meloshit.

>>71292957
Queensryche - Rage for Order
Not memeing, it's literally a fusion of prog metal, USPM, and new romantic

>>71292852
I like Black Future more.

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>>71296995
Had the same thought.

Anyways, this is one of my favorite albums of all time, but for whatever reason I almost always see people bring up their second album, which I do not like very much.

>>71296995
Insomnium was finland's best kept secret until cca 5 years ago. 99% of their current fans never even listened to it.

And yes that album also gets avoided a lot because >atmomelomeal

>>71297037
How about a contrarian opinion
I prefer second era Sentenced

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>>71296923
The Masque opening riff, HNNNG

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>>71297067
>I can understand the last stanza of lyrics well enough to know that all the lyric sites are wrong
>But not well enough to know what is actually being said

>>71292794
Hey this is pretty good

>>71296499
ghostbath

>>71297314
nice one

>>71297095
The lyrics on M-A are from the booklet.

>>71292844
On the track

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>>71296974
Wrong album

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>>71295890
Maybe, maybe not but Iommi wrote one of the most monstrous riffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhZ4t7pRyjE
>>71296111
>we are Motörhead and we play Rock'n'Roll
But still highly influential band. From Motörhead to Thrash metal and from there to Black Metal.

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Why does /metal/ not like Venom?

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Only true black metal band.

>>71298661
We do

>>71298661
only nu-males dislike venom

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Hello /metal/, you can please show me the song that goes DUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUDUNDUNDUN ?

>>71299139
See
>>71298700
>>71298708
>>71298716

>>71296171
Primordial

>>71296171
Falkenbach

>tfw you realise Agalloch is better at post-rock than metal

post essential Primordial album

To the Nameless Dead
>yfw 97% on Metallum

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>no Aspid

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>ctrl+f
>no Crotchduster

>>71299373
Haven't listened to them, but To the Nameless Dead is the one I've seen praised here.

>>71299373
Redemption at the Puritan's Hand

>>71299139
most of Metallica's discography

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>releasing a selftitled album after 30 years

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wew lads
Just fixed up every file and tag
All camel case, no special characters, no stray spaces

3500 songs, took all day

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>>71300176
>Judas Priest - Judas Priest

>>71292851
Heavy Rocks is my favorite of theirs. Akuma No Uta and Noise are also pretty good imo.
I've listened to Pink, Flood, and Gensho too but they are pretty boring.

>>71300219
I have 30 000 tracks and I always spend some time fixing them and then find new stuff tagged incorrectly
Some day it'll be properly tagged

>>71294028
No diSEMBOWELMENT, Forgotten Silence, Unholy?

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>>71299948
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLS

>>71300289
It's fucking satisfying when it's done.

>>71300219
What music player is this?

>>71300289
>not tagging your shit immediately after downloading
luckily my autism won't even allow me to listen to anything I didn't thoroughly check beforehand.
tools like bulk rename utility and the musicbrainz masstaggers are a true blessing.

>>71299373
First three, maybe four. I really hate how little love the debut gets. It's like a Celtic Bergtatt
>>71292851
Absolutego doesn't get the love it deserves as one of the finest examples of pure drone ever produced. Amplifier Worship was also one of the heaviest albums of the 90s and it didn't resort to the usual le-Black Sabbath stoner riffs xddd. From then on it's all hit and miss. Their best albums are the monolithic, album-spanning epics like Flood and Dronevil, but Heavy Rocks and Akuma No Uta are excellent pieces of contemporary heavy metal that also manage not to be revivalist garbage.

Everything after 2006 may be discarded.

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Hey so this is good and interesting and all

But how the fuck is this technical

>>71300363
>be me, autist
>download album
>spend 15 minutes correcting filename format, song title case, tagging, downloading a cover image of at least 700x700
>forget about it for a few days
>stumble across it once or twice, but decide I'm not in the mood for that genre at the moment
>finally give it a spin
>don't like it
>delete it

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post your february

>>71300542
riveting story

>>71300379
Imrama is more like a Celtic Stormblast, the first 3 tracks are A+ unique bm.

>>71300721
I've no idea where you get that comparison. Then again I should probably have said "Celtic Borknagar (s/t)".

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>>71300672
>SODOM

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>ywn be a groupy in 87' getting spit-roasted by a coked up don dokken and george lynch

>>71300419
That's the ugliest cover I've seen in quite a while

>>71296114
I enjoy this album quite a bit.
I've gotten into them (and through them many, many other bands) that I've decided to take up music. It's been two months. Music hurt finger.

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>>71300751

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Gimme more noisegrind like Endon
>pic related

Also here's a trailer for more Endon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9kevHMaoxg

>>71301096
Sore Throat

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>>71301002
Knarrenheinz better

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>>71300672
JOHNNY'S BACK AGAIN

>>71292851
I like Boris

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>>71295626

>>71301238
This isn't exactly what I'm looking for, but I am going to get drunk to this album.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYAv13D9s8

Post your best upset and sad Finns

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good shit

>>71302093
>melodeath

it's gay...

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>>71302076

Holy shit stephen pearcy looks like a fucking corpse in the new concert vids. His voice got demolished

>>71302093
Yes.

Like some older DT and IF.

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who can't into sludgewave

Is there anything more nu-male than that?

Is buttrock the opposite of nu-male metal? If so which is better?

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>when you're hit by schenker riffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP5ikQpTR3c

who else got Winamp with that Stained album as a teen

I didn't come here for a while, why is /metal/ so obsessed with nu-males? Is it out of fear of being one?

>>71302343
Oh I'm sorry they don't have a fucking e

>>71302358
nu-males are the future, metal is primordial

dialectical conflict between kvlt and kvck

>>71302358
it's because /nbbmn/ brought a new surge of nu-males into the general and we're trying to make them go away

it's an annual thing really

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Do metal heads like punk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc11EM_I_xk

if no, why not?

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>>71301096

>>71302402
No, because of punk was the worst music movement ever.

COMMING OUT OF NOWHERE
DRIVING LIKE RAIN
STORMBRINGER DANCE
ON THE THUNDER AGAIN

>>71302465
how so?
also no need for the 'of' c- for lit

Can /metal/ recommend good old school technical death metal like Sadist, Cynic, Atheist, Brutality, Death and Nocturnes.

>>71302131
>it's not even Finnish
;_;

Good album nontheless, I'm glad I got to listen to this.

>>71299762
dope album

>>71293847
horrendous

>>71297014

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Ok /meal/fags post your favorite metal album of last five years.

>>71302379
dumb meme

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>>71302733
You posted my second favourite

>>71302200
yes, sludgewave

>>71302733
More like Cumshot Dawn

>>71302093
My least favourite MPE album honestly

>>71302844
More like Homolith

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>>71302733

>>71302733
>>71302844
Christ, these make Terminal Redux look good

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>>71294028
>Thy Cat
>sporkcore

Post your ultimate metal band
>Genre: glam
>Vocals: david coverdale
>Guitar 1: george lynch
>Guitar 2: vito bratta
>Bass: juan croucier
>Drums: mikkey dee

metl sucks

>>71303015
Will it feature Björn "Speed" Strid?

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>>71303028
>Welcom to /meal?

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>>71303015
>David Coverdale
good choice of vocals

>>71294028
add these to the nu-male chart

>>71303015
>Genre: Slam
>Vocals: Matti Way
>Guitar 1: Matti Way
>Guitar 2: Matti Way
>Bass: Matti Way
>Drums: Matti Way

>>71303015
>Genre: Death Thrash
>Vocalist: Paul Speckmann
>Rhythm: Hetfield
>Lead: Friedman
>Drums: Lombardo

>>71302977
>he can't into high sci-fi covers

>>71303080
>Death Thrash
>Not one Vader member

I hope you're reconsidering.

>>71303015
David DiSanto - vocals, guitar
Misha Mansoor - guitar
Jeff Loomis - guitar
Les Claypool - bass, backing vocals
Jordan Rudess - keyboards
Lars Ulrich - drums
Tomas Haake - drums
Bjorn "Speed" Strid - guest vocals
Lucas Mann - guest guitar
Anneke van Giersbergen - gust vocals
Guthrie Govan - guest guitar sol
Linus Klausenitzer - guest bass solo
Steven Wilson - production

>>71303015
>Genre: IBM
>VOX: People Hater
>BEATZ: Saint Vincent
>RIFFZ: Snorre
>LYRIX: Rose Hreidmarr
>visuals: Halvor Bodin

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>>71303088
>high sci-fi

shit thread

>>71303100
Shit
I'm on mobile and I don't know the names of any members, I would have included the drummer maybe

>>71303125
excellent cover

>>71303125
now that's a concept I can get behind

>>71303088
more like DeviantArt covers.

Fucking hell do these faggots even know about TEXTURE FILTERS?
You know the shit that prevents your digital paintings from looking like fake-ass squeaky-clean CGI garbage?

Post slamz

>>71303125
ayy lmao

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>>71303125
While The First Rape In Space has a better cover, Vulgar Display of Porngrind is the superior album.

metal cringe, post;em bois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoM4tPQ_tgQ

>>71303208
anything power metal

>>71303125
>Genres
>Cybergrind, Goregrind
>Disco

>>71303015
>Genre: Black metal
>Vocals: David Coverdale
>Guitar 1: Micheal Schenker
>Bass: Neil Murray
>Drums: Yoshiki Hayashi

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I'm a bit giddy for the new Loss album, so does anyone have anything similar to their album Despond or Longing by Bell Witch?

>>71303224
You can't beat 'em, so join the drunken grindcore conga line

>>71303157

kys

God, someone please help. I can't remember the name of the early-ish thrash band with the black singer/frontman who has sick southern baptist inspired vocals and lyrics. Not very familiar with them but listened to a couple albums and didn't write the name down.

>missed my history midterm and likely sunk my GPA too low to get into the program I need to
metal for this feel?

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>Genre Blackened Glam metal

>>71303280
Pantera - Strength Beyond Strength. Especially the "Fuck you and your college dream" verse

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>>71303291
>genre: brutal metal

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Why is Death Metal always either really good or really really shit??

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>>71303291
>blackened industrial glamcore
C
N
KKK

>>71303252
t. Nu male

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>genre: lullaby metal

>>71303322
There's lots of average death metal. It's just that for some reason, there's a gigantic proportion of fucking terrible brutal death metal, to the point where it feels that there are classics, underground gems, and a sea of shit.

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>>71303322
what can we expect from upcoming pic?

>>71303257
God Forbid?

>>71303370
terror

>>71303322

Old Dying Fetus is really dope, was into them when I first started exploring more heavy shit. Saw them live as a three piece and they killed it, still have a soft spot for them even though they are comparatively bland

>>71303353
>>71303331
>>71303317
>>71303291
who are you quoting?

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>NatSoc speed glam
https://youtu.be/zfhXou5CyCQ

>>71303355
Give me a few Brutal Death Metal bands worth listening to, I kinda liked abominable putridity, mostly because they make me laugh

>>71303370

wow this is breddy brutal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDkknTea73o

>>71303355
how's this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eugEY0VjZ5s

>>71303384
The thing I like about them is that the vocals fit in with the rest of the music, whereas I find a lot of other bands just throw their vocals ontop of the music *cough* Nile *cough*

>>71303322
DF is buttdeath

>>71303415
listen to the classics

>>71303415
If you're into AP you'll probably enjoy other good slam bands, like Katalepsy, Analepsy, Kaluman, Pathology, Gravitational Distortion, or Coprocephalic

>>71303418
I'd say this is a good example of average death metal. It's bland but it gets the job done.

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>genre: technical thrash metal

>>71303415
Hypocrisy

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>>71303415

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>>71303404
80s where every genre was glam

>>71303489
Actually a good album, surprised me

listening to The Curse again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35iOWuRhPos

>>71292819
good post

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>>71303415
Pretty much the only brutal album I enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eCtmS_0WJU

>>71303488
>hypocrisy
>brutal death

>>71303782
Is this a meme?

>>71303802
what exactly

>>71303850
this

>>71303721
Yeah he's got the right kind of growl

La Dispute is basically Converge for little pussies.

>>71303915
converge is for little pussies

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Apparently Wintersun's crowdfunding site is up:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wintersun-crowdfunding--3#/
No idea, if this is legit, because the official announcement hasn't been made but this looks like a pretty reasonable package after all. Basically everything they have released thus far and some extras like remastering.

>>71303961
Wintersun is the Star Citizen of metal at this point

>>71303877
uhm, idk...?

>>71303961
you should kys if you're considering giving them any money

>>71303015
Vocals:Kyo
Guitars: Tosin Abasi and Kurt Ballou
Drummer: Lee Stanton
Bass: Tom Araya.

>>71303961
no one here cares to donate, take it to the next site

>>71300542
>not adding lyrics in the tags

>>71303961
jari pls

>>71300542
nothing wrong with that, bruv

>>71303979
aside from Kyo your idea is shit

>>71303978
Why? Because they told what they want to do with the money? From my point of view they are selling something and can do what they want with the money afterwards.

>>71304110
no, because wintersun is shit.

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Talk to me

>>71304137
So is [the band you like].

>>71304072
I cannot think of guitarists that would go with Kyo' s sexy voice so well.

>>71304141
ye

Have their been any decent Death Metal releases recently?

Last few albums I bought were the new Ulcerate and Cthe'list, as well as London by Voices.

Not too keen on gore-related DM if that makes a difference.

>>71304328
>good death metal release
>ever
No such thing

>>71304141
Benis

>>71304328
Insomnium

>>71304141
(You)

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>>71304399
:D:D:D:D

>>71304328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQgMTuyjATk

>>71304328
New Immolation came out.

>>71303926
all extreme music is for little pussies

>good metal: what i like

>nu-male metal: what you like

every thread

>>71304328
You know there's this great new website called Google, you should try it some time mate

>>71304511
>good metal: doesn't exist

>absolute garbage metal: literally everything ever released

every thread

>tfw starting to grow a mullet
Metal for this feel

>>71304511
t. nu-male

>>71304141
My favorte Finnish metal band

>>71304579

any midwest grindcore band

>>71304579
sometimes i feel like the only one around here with long hair

>>71304579
Pantera

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>>71304579
Grow a Skullet and listen to SYL

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>>71304588
Should be Moonsorrow.

>>71304579
nu-male core

>>71304583

literally proving my point. thanks

>>71304588
Pretty pumped to see them in April

>>71304614
Love Moonbenis as well

>>71304661
I still hate myself for missing them

>>71303971
Actually Star Citizen is the Wintersun of games. They started to work on Time way before Star Citizen was a thing.

>bands you unironically like but elitist faggots will hate you for it

I'll start:

Dimmu Borgir, Dragonforce, Burzum, Metallica

>>71304703
ildjarn, blasphemy, beherit, von, profanatica

>>71304703
>Burzum
Is there really such a person, who frowns upon Burzum fans?

>>71304703
lol.........

>>71304703
Gloryhammer, Nightwish, Alestorm, Sabaton, Kamelot, Blind Guardian

ALIIIIIIIIVE
MULTICOLOURED
TWITCHING IN THEIR

>>71304703
everything I listen to according to this general

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>>71304703
Suprisingly Emperor.

>>71304703
>Burzum
literally elitist faggot making music for elitist faggots

>>71304703
Opeth
Dark Tranquillity
Isis
Tesseract
Mastodon

There's too many of them

>>71303961
>>71304110
>jari has resorted to shilling his kickstarter on 4chan

top fucking kek, i hope this fails miserably. you're a hack

>>71303926
true, all their shit screams nu-male

>>71304703
>dimmu borgir
Kek

>>71304746
This

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>>71304727
>Gloryhammer, Nightwish, Alestorm, Sabaton, Kamelot, Blind Guardian

>>71304797
Same country, different Finn. Wish I could play as well as him though.

>>71304703
Native Construct, Twilight Force, Dragonforce, Ghost Bath (only Funeral), Ne Obliviscaris

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where do i start with nu-male metal

Melodic death metal - glorified metalcore
Technical death metal - glorified deathcore

>>71304898
what's the elvenefris of deathcore

>>71304898
What's the Incuros of deathcore

>>71304834
how the fuck can you defend him? there are people that have made superior music independently, meanwhile he has major label backing but still for some reason needs fans to give him additional funding for a "studio" (read: apartment complete with sauna) to record mediocre pirates of the caribbean metal

>>71304703
Dimmu Borgir, Sabaton, Behemoth, Burzum.

>>71304738
EEEEEEEEEEYES
IT'S THE ONLY THING

>>71304928
>pirates of the caribbean metal
That's Alestorm
Wintersun is Disney metal

>>71304952
potc is disney

>>71304952
that's a disney franchise

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Is there any capeshit inspired metal

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>>71304962

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>>71304987
Pic related is also worth checking out

>>71304985
That would tear the fabric of our universe

>>71304829
I know...

>>71304985
oh god, that's even more nu-male than blackgaze

Blackie Holocaust when

>>71296171
Wilderun

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>>71304952
Relevant

numale and whigger holocaust when?

>>71305046
>Wilderun
Isn't that band literally folk Opeth

>>71305083
>>71305083
>>71305083

>>71305067
btfo

>>71305067
Holy fuck

>>71304928
Music taste is personal, so there's no point in arguing about that. Personally I dislike the drama and excuses but like the music, so I don't think this is an unreasonable deal. He is now offering remastered versions of everything Wintersun has ever released and a new album in exchange for money. That's pretty much how every band works; music for money. He does things the hard way but the basic business model is still the same and all according to principles of capitalism. He isn't getting free money and no one is losing any money, if the crowdfunding fails. I bet there would be less public outrage, if he didn't tell, how he's going to use the money but the reality is that every musician lives somewhere and has to invest into gear. Jari is a bit more ambitious but once again, he isn't getting anything for free. Nuclear Blast is also ok with this, so eventually they will be getting money too. Despite all the drama, everything is well and good.

>>71305088
I haven't listened to much opeth so I can't really say, but sleep at the edge of the earth is definitely worth a listen

>>71304898
>Melodic death metal - glorified metalcore
isn't it supposed to be the other way around?