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What Zappa albums are 100% essential?

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What Zappa albums are 100% essential?
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All of them!
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freak out and weazels ripped my flesh
i've never liked his stuff outside mothers of invention much
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>>71292132
hot rats
uncle meat
weasels ripped my flesh
jazz from hell (an unpopular opinion but i stand by it)

>>71292166
not this
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We're Only in It for the Money
Uncle Meat
Zoot Allures
Läther
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You Are What You Is
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>>71292197
This looks like a bad hip hop album.
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>>71292242
you should check it btw, and all his syclavier and classical stuff are the best imo
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Zappa was a charlatan
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From a more general perspective regarding music history?

Freak Out
We're Only in It for the Money
Lumpy Gravy

If you wanna get into Zappa then all of the original MOI stuff, his early 70's orchestral/jazzy stuff, the mid 70's live albums and Civilization Phase III.
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>All drugs are bad except the drugs I'm addicted to
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>>71292477
Cigarettes are basically food.
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>>71292535
sure, in the same way that mercury is basically food
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Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar
The Grand Wazoo
Bongo Fury
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Freak Out!
Absolutely Free
We're Only in It for the Money
Lumpy Gravy
Uncle Meat
Burnt Weeny Sandwich
Hot Rats
Weasels Ripped My Flesh

you know I could keep going but Zappa is an essential kinda guy
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>>71292580
Tobacco is a plant, meaning it's one step away from being a vegetable.

But yeah, my post was just paraphrasing his own words.
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>>71292132
Absolutely Free and Hot Rats are must listens, your reaction to either of them determines where to go next
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>>71292660
>Tobacco is a plant, meaning it's one step away from being a vegetable

wait and weed (and poppies, mushrooms etc) is what?
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>>71292132
Freak Out!
Absolutely Free
Weasels Ripped My Flesh
Over-Nite Sensation
Apostrophe (')
Hot Rats
Joe's Garage
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>tfw zappa is so diversely good that Sheik Yerbouti is my favorite album of his and no one has posted about it
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>>71292717
Well hemp is an herb, poppies are flowers, and mushrooms aren't even plants.
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>>71292904
well tobacco is an herb too and mushrooms are most assuredly food

especially compared to cigarettes
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>>71292850
Sheik Yerbouti, which I once thought was amazing, has awful diminishing returns. Chin and Tiny Lites are good songs. But I can only handle so much Terry Bozzio and there are few songs that are nice to listen to for instrumental reasons; the parodies don't have a very long shelf life, especially today.
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>>71292997
Well, I think just functionally speaking cigarettes are more similar to food than other stimulants. And it doesn't impair/interfere with your mental faculties like most other drugs, so I don't think Zappa was being a hypocrite.
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>>71293175
Jewish Princess will always be a masterpiece.
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It all started in Joes Garage... can't believe that's not here more.
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>>71293175
original sheik anon here, i usually get my enjoyment from listening to it all in one piece every now and then but i get where you are coming from senpai
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>>71292904
>hemp is an herb
And an herb is a plant

>poppies are flowers
And flowers are plants
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>>71293285
Yeah but more specifically they're flowers, and we typically don't eat flowers.
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>>71293261
Yeah, not that I hate it or anything. I still play it. just thinking out loud about why people might not bring it up in these threads
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Freak Out
Absolutely Free
We're Only In it for the Money
Lumpy Gravy
Uncle Meat
Hot Rats

If you had to listen to one, it should be Uncle Meat, imo.
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>>71293322
also flowers:
>broccoli
>cauliflower
>squash

we also eat mushrooms.

which brings us back to
>>71292477
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>>71293398
Point being? We're making generalizations here.
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>>71293456
point being cigarettes are not basically food and frank is a pompous ass with a superiority complex
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>>71293502
t. butthurt junkie

I already told you it was a reference to something he said. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out the actual meaning of a statement like that. It has less to do with botanical distinctions and more to do with its practical use. In that regard, smoking a cigarette is more like sucking on a lollipop or chewing gum compared to taking LSD/heroine/w.e
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>>71293561
sure and i'm just saying it's hypocritical and obnoxious.

condemning one drug for "destroying" your brain but condoning another that most definitely destroys your body
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>>71293756
He didn't seem to believe that smoking was as bad for you as it actually is. Makes his death a bit ironic.

But as you say there's a distinction to be made since it doesn't actually alter your mind/personality. I think he ultimately had a point when he lamented over his generation's drug use.

Also his view was a bit more nuanced than you seem to think. While he was against it on a personal level he had a pretty liberal view on it in terms of public policy.

https://youtu.be/R0y23ga49fA
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>>71293958
I never understood why he considered himself conservative despite sharing almost of his views with the left
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>>71294710
*almost all
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>>71294710
>>71294729
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa#Politics_and_religion
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>>71294710
He called himself a practical conservative, by which he basically meant libertarian. Many different groups identify with the label for different reasons, and in his case it had more to do preserving the constitution, limited government etc. than religious values.
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Most good albums already mentioned, so I'll just add Yellow Shark.
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>>71292132
Zappa in New York, Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt
My favorite Zappa era t b h
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>>71294929
Oh, yes. An album of Zappa's classical music played by a competent band and sounding the way he wanted it to.
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>>71295363

I also like WPLJ, So take it for what you will.
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Beefheart is superior.
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>>71292784
PRetty much this, maybe swapping Absolutely Free for We're Only in it for the monety
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>>71295473
I love it to. It's a combination of classical and rock music and it's an amazing combination.
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>>71293254
>>71294929
Joes Garage is maybe the only one that rivals Yellow Shark for me. Outside now...
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>>71292784
This is a pretty good list right here
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The one that Thundercat just put out.
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Just this one
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>>71292620
This guy nailed it
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>>71292850
sorry I'm late

Sheik
Apostrophe
The Man From Utopia
Joe's Garage
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>>71292132
All of his 60's albums, starting with the first
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