What's the difference between grime and dubstep?

>>71283950
bpm

grime is made by black people from the ends like stormzy. dubstep is made by people who wear DC shoes and have a monster sticker on their back garden mini ramp

>>71283950
Grime is british hip-hop/trap from the past couple years
Dubstep is obnoxious bro EDM noises from 2010

>>71283950
there are many differences between grime and dubstep

if anything I would say the genres are entirely unrelated

>>71284145
Explain more please? I want to learn. I thought they came from the same style of music, no?

>>71283950
BOTH COME FROM JUNGLE
BOTH HAVE SHITTY OFFGENRES
GRIME IS GOOD, DUB IS SHITE

>>71283996
10/10

>>71283950
Grime is british hip hop influenced from various kinds of british dance music.
Dubstep is dance music that has its roots in 2-step garage and is heavily influenced by dub music.

>>71284171
Here's a recent grime song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQGUJK7Na4

Here's a dubstep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJVmu6yttiw

can you see any similarities what so ever?

>>71284267
What about first wave dubstep and grime? Aren't they not incredibly similar, developing side by side out of garage and other strains of uk dance music?

>>71284298
True yes, although both genres have developed greatly and are basically completely different now.

I wouldn't even call dubstep a UK genre anymore, whilst it's basically impossible to consider yourself "grime" if you aren't UK based

>>71284298
Wtf is first wave dub step?

>>71284360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDU1Cy152S4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNStVlJWy88

enjoy

>>71284463
This is just dub tho?

This sounds nothing like skrillex

>>71284513
Skrillex isn't dubstep.

>>71283996
>>71284021
It's quite clear you're completely mixing up shitty brostep with actual dubstep.

>>71284513
You are a pleb.
Real Dubstep is from early 00s London
Brostep is what everyone thinks dubstep is. In reality its the American EDM bastardisation of the British underground.

>>71284513
Skream and Benga are basically credited with the real creation of the genre

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>>71284513
>This is just dub tho?
>Impying Skrillex came before the likes of Skream, Benga, and Coki.

im so confused

watching americans and australians try and talk about uk dance music will never stop being hilarious

>>71284577
I was just about to say the same thing. Americans turned dubstep in to a competition around who can make the craziest sounds whilst still passing it off as music.

>>71284513
No, dub would be something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v14Nvd6Zkt4

Dubstep started out with stuff like Skream and Benga, then people like Skrillex and Datsik got their hands on it and started putting all sorts of retarded noises in it, a style which eventually started to be known as "brostep" to distinguish it from what dubstep was originally. It's not really that complicated.

>>71284513
because it's actual dubstep you moron

>>71283950
grime = vocals on dubstep or garage

>>71285362
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>>71285362
this looool