let's get this straight

just like all good art

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>>71256808
>>71256814

>b-but what about oi and RAC
That "music" was simply an attempt to infect young people who wanted to be part of a counter culture with facsist idealogies.
>but syd vicious once wore a swastika shirt! ha gotcha there
HE WAS BEING EDGY this should be a known fact, to wear a swastika was to actively go against what every middle aged person you met on the street in England had faught and died for, the edgiest "fuck the old people"

>>71256808
What about Fear and Johnny Ramone and X and Misfits and Dave Smalley and Mojo Nixon and Antiseen and Joe Escalante and...?

>>71256814

left wingers become artists
right wingers work so left wingers can become artists

>you have to believe this or else you're not punk

>>71256808
only because lefties are the only people who'd eat up such cynically marketed "music"

>>71256880
You're blowing my mind

>>71256854
Fascism is center left.

>left wingers
>straight

lmao

>>71256880
how many artists work shit jobs

>>71256880
damn

>>71256880
Left-wingers work so right wingers can be rich.

>>71257621

damn..

>>71257450
I'm gay now

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alt right is the new punk rock

>>71258557
yes the president is about as punk as it gets

>>71256880
>"i dun werk hard everyday for dem dam libruls"
>continues to work to make right wing CEO's rich af

>>71259718
it's ok, you can't help that you were born fucked up!

>>71258557
wow Trump is the ultimate insult comic

>>71258557

how many of those are real?

>>71256867
they were a shit band desu

>>71256808
>punk will always be contrarian
ftfy

leftists views were "in" when punk actually mattered

>punk will always be left wing
lolno

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Everyone seems to be glossing over our precious lil' anti-commie fascist-desu

>>71256880
Right wingers work because they don't have the intuition and natural intelligence to do anything else.

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Posadist punk rock when?

Leftist art lost its edge - doesn't trigger protests like it used to in the 80s. Political art isn't transgressive anymore unless it's right wing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/arts/design/london-gallery-ld50-alt-right-show-protest.html

>>71260101
How's welfare treating ya?

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>>71256808

>>71258557
Funniest president ever

>>71256808
How can punk be left wing in the current political climate? Doesn't being punk mean not fitting into the mainstream narrative?

>>71256867
Ramones aren't punk, they're fucking wack

>>71260412
Holy shit...

>>71258557
*counter culture

>>71260412

really makes you ponder

>>71256808
Gee OP while I might agree with you that the majority of some of the most popular punk bands have politics that lean to the left of center might I remind you of such bands as.....

The F.U.s (Early 80s Boston HC)
Iron Cross (Early 80s D.C. HC)
U.S. Chaos (Early 80s New Jersey HC)

To name but three.

And although we know that Johnny Ramone AKA John Cummings was a right wing conservative who voted for Ronald Reagan twice let's not forget that Michael Graves (Second singer for The Misfits) is a conservative Republican and is quite open about it or that Christine "Exene" Cervenka from X is a right wing nut job who was a "Birther" (Meaning she believed that Obama was a Muslim born in Kenya) a conspiracy theorist who believed that the tragedy of Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy to take away guns from law abiding citizens and she also supports building a wall on the U.S./Mexican border.

>But you probably don't like or listen to any of these bands do you comrade?

>Trilateral Commission goonies laugh and scream for more........

Sounds like something out of the John Birch Society playbook to me!

>>71256808
Who cares? Punk is shit

>>71256808
punk was never left wing or right wing. and punk was always about being politically incorrect.

all the people who started punk: lou reed, the velvet underground, andy warhol, nico, the new york dolls, television, patti smith, the ramones et cetera were all anti political correctness which they perceived as fascism. almost all of them were extremely sexually active with both females and males.

>>71260434
>Ramones aren't punk
the ramones were making punk before the term punk was being used. whether or not you like them does not matter. they are the most punk you can get, together with the entire early 70's new york scene.

daily reminder nihilism has a natural right leaning

>>71256880
Ebin meme friendo

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>>71260554
no, nihilism isn't political at all.

>>71260576
Joey Ramone's face makes me wanna puke

>>71256808
Being a faggot will always be left wing too

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daily reminder that lou reed had a 4 year long relationship with a tranny

>>71260605
keep telling yourself that

>>71260576
something having definition as political doesn't mean that there aren't underlying politics to every social interaction in a civilized world. the same can be said for economics in any consumption whatsoever.

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>>71256854
they were loudly against political correctness and thus modern day liberalism. they wore swatsika's because a lot of the bands (i.e. the stooges, dead boys and the sex pistols) were obsessed with nazism. they didn't praise the nazi's but were merely obsessed with collecting nazi symbols et cetera.

>>71260629
do you even know what nihilism is? nihilism is not political, not economic or anything else.

>>71260605
This.

>>71256880
>am left wing
>touring artist
>work ~60 hour weeks when not on tour, often between 2 jobs
>all of my artist friends, barring those who can support themselves off art, are in the same spot

Right wingers are either senile retiree's, spoiled brat private school cocks who never have and never will have to work a real job, or faggot-ass fat fuck NEETs who think their patchy facial hair, greasy complexion, and asymmetrical and unappealing facial features make them "genetically superior".

Fuck off and die cunt.

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>>71256867
the woman in the middle at the bottom was dee dee ramone's girlfriend at this time.

>>71256880
>>71260680
you're both morons. kill yourselves. both right wing and left wing have smart people and absolute idiots voting.

>>71260680
Holy fuck are you retarded? kek

>>71256808
Yup

>>71260680
>how dare you generalize me
>goes on to generalize another group

bravo, retard

>>71259918
no

it is not and never was about being contrarian you fucking retard

>>71260680
>Right wingers are either senile retiree's, spoiled brat private school cocks who never have and never will have to work a real job, or faggot-ass fat fuck NEETs who think their patchy facial hair, greasy complexion, and asymmetrical and unappealing facial features make them "genetically superior".
;^)

>>71260412
no

>>71260734
thank you for the wonderful insight, oh great one

>>71260540
go to a show and stop getting all your music knowledge from rym and wikipedia

>>71260680

nice

>>71260734
Thank you

>>71260734
>it is not and never was about being contrarian

Except it literally was, you fucking mongoloid

>>71260659
the absence of politics leans right.

>>71260680
i think you're forgetting about the group of people who make a majority of financial decisions in the country too there, bud (barring silicon valley which lives in a fantasy cloud of venture capital, backed by conservatives)

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I don't think that punk has to align to either political denomination.

The left should forget about punk and start reclaiming guns

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>yes, stay divided along the left and right political lines.
>don't work together to fix anything
>people who don't agree with you 100% are the cancer killing this country
>keep fighting amongst yourselves while we give more funding to the police/government agencies and continue to eviscerate the second amendment

>>71260336
I bet your rich daddy gave you a lot of pocket money for sucking his cock everyday, also sitting behind a desk and calling up people to yell at them is not working,

>>71260902
Then why is 90% of it so hell bent on having leftist lyrics and views?

Enjoy your cheeseburgers fatty

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>>71260902
>jesus
>2017

the best punk is late 70s feminist punk btw

>>71261747
no it isn't btw

>>71256814
jesus christ

>>71257157
knock that shit off.

>>71258557
>you can't play golf in the snow you stupid ass, plus a bona fide reaction image
ok if that's real that's funny as fuck

>>71256814
REKTED

/THREAD

>>71261431
most leftists have (not liberals)

Everyone in this thread is a loser

*drops mic*

>>71257621
The heat in this thread

Good Gawd

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>>71261840
such insight

>>71260680
/thread? Yes

>>71260832
Oh shut the fuck up

>>71260613

I think that's just Iggy Pop

>>71260336
Full ride at the university of my choice is great thanks friendo :).

>>71261997
Shouldn't you be working on your ethnic studies project?

>>71256808
Fascism is and has always been the true punk rock, leftists are just posers. What's more punk than being an hypermasculine fash dudebro, praising Hitler, might makes right and openly advocating for genocide? Everything else is PC bullshit.

>>71262036
this

"[...] it seems to me, it is not an accident that the triumph of leftist ways of thinking has so often led to totalitarian government. The pursuit of abstract social justice goes hand in hand with the view that power struggles and relations of domination express the truth of our social condition, and that the consensual customs, inherited institutions and systems of law that have brought peace to real communities are merely the disguises worn by power. The goal is to seize that power, and to use it to liberate the oppressed [...] totalitarian language does not set out a path of negotiation but instead divides human beings into innocent and guilty groups. Behind the impassioned rhetoric of the Communist Manifesto, behind the pseudo-science of Marx’s labour theory of value, and behind the class analysis of human history, lies a single emotional source – resentment of those who control things. This resentment is both rationalized and amplified by the proof that property owners form a ‘class’. According to the theory, the ‘bourgeois’ class has a shared moral identity, a shared and systematic access to the levers of power, and a shared body of privileges. [...] resentment can be transformed into a governing emotion and a social cause, and thereby gain release from the constraints that normally contain it. This happens when resentment loses the specificity of its target, and becomes directed to society as a whole. That, it seems to me, is what happens when left-wing movements take over. In such cases resentment ceases to be a response to another’s unmerited success and becomes instead an existential posture [...] Such a person does not seek to negotiate within existing structures, but to gain total power, so as to abolish the structures themselves. He will set about destroying the enemy, whom he will conceive in collective terms, as the class, group or race that hitherto controlled the world and which must now in turn be controlled."

>>71262017
No I gotta set up for recording an opera soon and get some topology homework done though.

Newspeak occurs whenever the primary purpose of language – which is to describe reality – is replaced by the rival purpose of asserting power over it. The fundamental speech-act is only superficially represented by the assertoric grammar. Newspeak sentences sound like assertions, but their underlying logic is that of the spell. They conjure the triumph of words over things, the futility of rational argument, and also the danger of resistance. As a result Newspeak developed its own special syntax, which – while closely related to the syntax deployed in ordinary descriptions – carefully avoids any encounter with reality or any exposure to the logic of rational argument. Françoise Thom has argued this in her brilliant study La langue de bois. The purpose of communist Newspeak, in Thom’s ironical words, has been ‘to protect ideology from the malicious attacks of real things’.

Human individuals are the most important of those real things, the obstacles that all revolutionary systems must overcome, and which all ideologies must destroy. Their attachment to particulars and contingencies; their embarrassing tendency to reject what has been devised for their betterment; their freedom of choice and the rights and duties through which they exercise it – all these are obstacles to the conscientious revolutionaries, as they strive to implement their five-year plan. Hence the need to phrase political choice in such a way that individuals have no part in it. Newspeak prefers to speak of forces, classes and the march of history, and regards the actions of Great Men as acceptable subjects for discussion only because Great Men, like Napoleon, Lenin and Hitler, are really the expression of abstract forces, such as imperialism, revolutionary socialism and fascism.6 The ‘isms’ that govern political change work through people, but not from them.

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>>71262036
>Fascism is and has always been the true punk rock
>What's more punk than being an hyperautistic reactionary advocating for big government and police control

>fascists and the "alt right" are just another puppet used by the government to maintain political power and keep the people fractured and weak.
same goes for the violent thugs and "progressive" "liberals" that are apart of the antifa movement

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left-wing punk is LITERALLY the act of agreeing with the govt & media now. THE ENTIRE MAINSTREAM IS LEFT-WING.

oh, how punk has fallen. lmao.

>>71262209
who cares

punk is dead

>>71262056
I agree that too often liberals don all people in control of power as one uniform ideological group going against the will of the masses but in a purely capitalist system the overarching condition to gain power is through crushing all competition and denying others progress which usually means that those people who have gotten to their position of power are not seeking to better society because they typically have to be ruthless in their market practices.

punk is shit.

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>>71262253
>punk is dead
not mainstream =/= dead

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Why I had to get the fuck off Twitter.

All my musical heroes are all left wing douchebags. Horrible.

>>71262130
On the second frame of the "Normal" column they should all be white cos whites are the most qualified :3

>>71262334
they probably didn't like you anyway

>>71256880
poor right wingers work so left wingrs can become artist and give money to the rich right wingers

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>>71256808
Anti fascist punks are great.. But anarcho communist punks live in their own filth and are terrible people. Fact, not fiction.

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>>71262351
Probably not.

>>71256880
The right winger's fundamental cuck nature fully on display here. In the end, it's all about wanting to get dominated by cops, the boss, the nation or any other available authority figure

>>71262396
this is pretty ignorant, even for /mu/. the further you go along the classical right-left spectrum (left = collective, right = individual) towards the right the closer you get to individualism. the state is the opposite of what the individual "likes", lol. i'm a little bit worried about the way that the left-right spectrum is abused by modern politics for modern purposes- it's what leads to people thinking that fascism is a far-right position, when in reality it's far-left.

>>71262470
That's a tendentious definition created by right wing propietarians. Right 'libertarianism' is not individualism but a dictatorship of the property holders. The more honest propietarians like Hans Hermann Hoppe, openly admit they want to restore feudalism and exclude free speech, homosexuals, democrats and socialists from their political order. Property is the only value they recognise. And property needs to be enforced from the barrel of a gun. The corporate state based on mercenary security agencies would not be a triumph for individual freedom, but an unleashing of its worst and most violent aspects. It's very telling when most propietarians would openly side with genoicidal fascist over even the most libertarian form of socialism

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>>71262470
fascism is in the center

>>71262615
Right wing = >I'm a cuck who sees corruption in government and trust corporations to fix it.

Left wing = >I'm a cuck who sees corruption in corporations and trusts the government to fix it.

The way modern american politics has been defined into two polar opposites literally makes a majority of the populous mouth breathing autists banging their heads against each other while their country is being stolen right out from underneath them.

>>71262700
I'm for the dismantlement of private property and the state coercion apparatus. 'the government' and 'corporations' are just a huge indistinct bureaucracy that trives on war and exploitation. The surveillance state and the military industrial complex are mostly run by private contractors by this point. It's not a question of 'bigger government' vs 'smaller government' but about dismantling unaccountable institutions, both private and public and replacing them with grassroots democracy

>punk will always be

Punk barely was. Now it's dead musically even more so than aesthetically, which is like 90% of what Punk ever was.

>>71262801
Listen, the ship is sinking. You if you care about the survival of humanity you will find a traditional child bearer and head into a state that has cheap land and water rights you can by. Preferably a place where there is little to no fracking. Get back to basics. Create a community/tribe of friends/like minded people. Have kids and teach them about surviving off of the land. These kids will be the seeds for a new world to germinate.

Or stay on the ship while it sinks.

>>71262470
is this bait? your definition of left vs. right is complete bullshit. left vs. right doesn't mean collectivism vs individualism. leftist politics is defined by the goal to abolish class-society and hierarchies while right-wing politics doesn't just see classes as necessary but desirable. and going by this actual definiton of left vs. right then fascism is on the far right. they didn't want to abolish classes, they actually made them collaborate for a "common good". they did this by finding new enemies (for example other ethnicities, religions or people of other nationalities). this is the complete antithesis to leftism.

>>71262615
feudalism, "political orders", corporate state-- all these hypothets would be left wing entities. proprietarians still believe in forms of government, i'm arguing that actual far-rightism is back to nature anarchists or whatever else. real right wingers barely even believe in society, participation of any type still makes you a leftist of some type if we stick autistically to the accords of the proper definition
>>71262653
fascism is about the needs of the state being more important than the needs of the individual and aggressive social organization. it's as left wing as you can get.

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>>71261963
haha you got me. the transexual is in pic related. she was called rachel.

>>71256880
Damn

Damn, this whole shit made me add "wing" to my filter. Thanks

>>71262945
>feudalism, "political orders", corporate state-- all these hypothets would be left wing entities.
funny because the term "left" was actually created because of people that opposed feudalism.

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>>71262954
>she
;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

How does nobody here understand punk?

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>>71256808
youre wrong

>>71262923
it's not "my" definition, it's the actual definition which has been historically obfuscated to serve various causes until we reach the end of language and have people like you who probably think that nazism is right-wing and that any type of state oriented authoritarianism isn't leftism at it's most pure. left = group, right = one. you need to get your thinking out of this century to understand this, even though it isn't complex.

>>71262945
>fascism is about the needs of the state being more important than the needs of the individual and aggressive social organization. it's as left wing as you can get.
only if you re-define what left-wing and right-wing actually means like you did. its impossible to argue against you if you use a different definition of the thing we argue about. yes, by the weird definition you use fascism is left-wing. but your definition is fucking wrong.

>>71263019
Punk has to be experienced. If you haven't been to local gigs and met with the punk rock community you probably haven't met punk rockers. You could have met some autist that likes The Dead Kennedys and dresses punk, but being punk is different.

>>71263052
bro left-wing was literally defined by the people who opposed feudalism in france who sat on the left side.

>>71262986
hmm, could you expand on that? my understanding is that the political "left" manifested in crucially unionized (not union as in trade union, just as in "group") resistance activity to overthrow other collective states. as i said, monarchy for me is leftist even if leftism defined itself in opposition to monarchy. so for example the french revolution. we have the state, which has the charismatic individual figure of the monarch (but is still very much a left-wing object because it is a collective power) toppled by a second state which grew within the first, the only difference being the absence of a primary figure (which it still kind of did have)

>>71263136
>as i said, monarchy for me is leftist even if leftism defined itself in opposition to monarchy.
>we have the state, which has the charismatic individual figure of the monarch (but is still very much a left-wing object because it is a collective power)
what. so you are saying that monarchy is left-wing because your made-up definiton of leftism applies to it even though at the same time you realize that the term left-wing originates from people who opposed feudalism basically proving your definition wrong? hmm okay then.

>>71263218
i think what he's saying is
>"you are evil, we will be different"
>but then they aren't different

>>71263019
>>71263063
If you want to know more about punk I can really recommend you all to read the book called ''Please Kill Me''. It's written by the man who came up with using the term punk and it exists out of interviews with band members like Iggy Pop, Dee Dee Ramone, Johnny Thunders and everyone else involved.

They weren't concerned with politics and wanted to keep politics out of punk but sadly bands like The Sex Pistols and these retards >>71263041 felt like getting politics into it. It's just music man.

>>71262087
Music and Pure Math double major?

>>71257621
this

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/detrimentalanesthesia/music-to-punch-neo-nazis-to/

Does Daddy need to come and shit up yet ANOTHER of these threads? When will you cunts learn?

>>71263472
Thanks, filtered.

>>71263488
What the fuck? Wrong thread? Suck my dick like the faggot you are.

>>71263417
ok then everybody is left-wing except for some utopia that never exited. like pinochet also creates an authoritarian state. does that mean he's left wing? even though he implemented right-wing economics like friedman wanted it? is friedman now also left-wing? is everything left-wing except things that you like?

>>71260680
some of us are actually homesteading fascist bodybuilders with esoteric twitter accounts

>>71263052
>it's not "my" definition, it's the actual definition which has been historically obfuscated
[citation needed]

>>71263508
Pinochet was a hero that saved Chile from Marxism and all the famines and gulags that come with having an actual socialist government. Liberals don't understand that freedom is a really fragile thing, there's gotta be trade offs sometime, a little right wing tyranny is better than full left wing tyranny.

>>71263770
so pinochete government was good because it killed people you disagree with while marxist governments were bad because it killed people you agreed with. basically you don't have an actual problem with governments killing people but only with who they kill. awesome, keep fighting for freedom mate!

>>71263770
Literally kill yourself, you probably aren't even from Chile. A shit ton of innocent people were killed and tortured under Åinochet's dictature. the poor were fucked over by the military (and the indigenous got fucking massacred)
They even killed off my grand mother, and she was pro pinochet, they tortured her because a neighbour said she was a communist
pinochet's dictature was only good for the rich
also fuck off

>>71262209
>left-wing punk is literally the act of agreeing with the govt
The President of America is a Republican and the UK has had a Conservative government for almost 8 years now. Try again.

itt: Sweeping generalisations of both liberals and republicans.

It's 4chan, it's to be expected tho.

>>71264066
t. 2cool4school nihilistic intellectual with a wicked sense of humor

>>71264189
Nah, I'm just an incredibly boring, painfully diplomatic center-guy with no real opinions on anything.

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>>71262653
>not vegan
>pacifist
>literally never been to a protest before
???

>>71262700
This is correct actually except that the right wing somehow fails to see that the corruption in the government mainly stems from corporations so I tend to side left in case idk Harvey Dent runs for office or something.

>>71263452
Audio Engineering and pure Math yes :D

Punk is nihilistic and apolitical, political punk is nothing but a bunch of useful idiots

>>71264565
Mate, name a country that's removed their corporations that have had uncorrupted government? The left leaning parties are just as corrupt as Nestle.

>>71264777
not removing them, giving them actual sanctions and combating share manipulation would suffice.

>>71261911
>not an argument

libs, everybody

>>71261747
you're wrong btw

>>71265253
I'm pretty sure the people making the sanctions are just as corruptible.

>>71263935
That doens't change the fact that the culture itself is almost entirely left wing. Try again.

>>71265647
Culture is liberal, not left wing. If you don't know the difference you're a retard who shouldn't be posting.

>>71265793
liberal is encased in the left wing

>>71265821
Liberal is center right you dipshit, that it's considered to even be left wing just shows how far right leaning US politics are.

>>71265846
You are literally retarded

>>71260734
Anon. It's time to stop

>>71265869
>Favors big government
>Scared of guns
>Wants "socialism" without even knowing what that means
>Upholds pacifism above everything else
>Mostly consists of already wealthy people whining about people slightly more wealthy than them
>Gives up if it would inconvenience them
>"Both sides have valid points, maybe we should only kill some jews"
>Supports massive corporations as long as they get their free college

Very left wing, A++ would liberal again

>>71266032
Then what is the left wing oh wise one?

>>71266124
Anarchists

>>71266152
>No government is this wing of government
So you're actually retarded then?

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>>71262369

>ANTIFA
>Great

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>>71266298
>implying political alignment requires government

>>71256808
But the left are the fascist now

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daily reminder

>>71266032
The right wing is fucked because it favors small government in the worst way possible where it gives free reign to corporations and fucks the economy. Then they use big government to control the freedoms of everyone yet somehow deny that that's the case.

No shit everyone should be scared of guns, the amount of mass shootings in America is absolutely fucked. Look at the statistics on gun violence literally everywhere else in the world. The only reason I'm not for strict no gun policy is because the situation is so out of control that trying to disarm people would lead to rednecks on a rampage.

Why wouldn't you. The goal is to try and solve problems without violence. That's not to say there's no time to resort to violence, but it should be the last resort.

That's mainly because it consists of somewhat educated people who have empathy for the lower and middle class because they are more likely to actually live in the real world unlike the .1%.

That's just a non-sequitur.

Don't even know how to analyze what the fuck you mean by this.

? The whole point of the left is being against corporations, free college would be very anti-corporate.

Don't even know what you mean by the jew thing.

>>71256808
>what is nazi punk
Punk will always be rebellious, because it's enjoyed primarily by teens. If the current establishment is left wing, punk will be right and vice versa.

>>71266542
Communist are anthesis to individually and creativity

Bigly not good guys

>>71266032
Historically the left has supported larger government, so you're retarded.

Think welfare, you need more taxes, more government intervention, in order to have welfare, a major left wing thing.

>>71266673
I see what you're saying, you're using the classic definition of "liberal" to claim left is smaller government. The new term for classic liberals is "libertarian" get used to using American terms, we're here to stay.

>>71266542
A nos a thumbs down wtf are commies going to do now

>>71259863
those are the best of the real ones.

>>71266552
>deny the rights of everyone

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>71266552
New age Left for globalism/coperatism

New age Right nationalism smal buisness creating culture providing for citzens

Wew lord it's THIS thread again!

>>71258557
more like emo. President emo trump, always whining

>>71266765
I fail to see how. "New age" is such a meaningless fucking term who gives a shit what some fucking retards on tumblr are saying, they still aren't left if they want to control people's rights to free speech and want corporatism. And the right has always feigned wanting to support small business so that the middle and lower class votes for them but lifting restrictions on business will just lead to them being absorbed or crushed by larger businesses.

The part about creating culture and providing for citizens is laughable, defunding the arts and getting rid of social welfare is the exact opposite of that concept.

>>71260554
why?????

>>71266912
Gloablism absolutely kills culture?

>>71256808
https://youtu.be/JoPLBW4QYBQ
Nope

>>71267039
Meant that to be a statement ratheher than a question

>>71266722
A nos a post on twitter wtf are nazis going to do now

>>71256854
Exactly. Punk isn't left. It's anti-establishment. It's contrarian. But look at the way the world's heading. 40-50 years ago being a freak was punk. Trannies were shunned. Now the freaks are mainstream. Shemales and half breeds are what the media is pushing now, not blonde hair and blue eyes. Punk is getting, and will continue to get, more right the further the liberals push mainstream media into the left.

>>71267136
this. look at npr best literature, p4k best music, new yorker best film, etc etc. it's all pushing the gay/black/transgender agenda. meanwhile we have real political problems that are being avoided in favor of what's trendy.

our clickbait ADD culture is contributing to the dumbing down and tiresome nature of leftist politics. it's only reasonable that the next big statement will be anti-political.

>>71266912
>>71267039
Also culture grows when it is concetrated has room to grow and is left the fuck alone the technocrats in washinton don't create shit

>>71265581
And where's yours? All you've done is made a statement that makes no logical sense. Elaborate and we'll see where this goes.

>>71265647
A culture that voted for a right-wing government is left-wing? What?

>>71267738
Trump was elected because of the turn out of angry 40 year olds. The culture is overwhelmingly liberal. The media is nothing but liberal,

It was one pony pic, you autistic fucks. Settle down with the conspiracy theories.

>>71267953
Wrong board lol

>>71267953
Hahahahaha

>>71267738
Hilary won popular vote. Trump won cause he played the game better and campaigned late in Michigan. The country is overwhelmingly liberal. So much that it's taboo to be conservative. And I'm saying this from Texas (albeit Austin). That's why everyone thought it was going to be such a fucking landslide for Hilary. A lot of people weren't willing to openly support Trump because for the most part, the media was (and still is) saying that if you support Trump you're a piece of shit.

This country is most certainly left leaning. There's no doubt about it.

>>71267039
Most leftists aren't globalists.

Globalization is cancer but unfortunately with the internet it's here to stay. So we have to find some way to work with it, instead of just plugging your ears and closing your eyes and pretending that the world isn't the way it is.

>>71268111
you forgot to mention that the left is also wrong in this country

>>71260101
yea like be a rap """artist""" or a professional videogame player

>>71267388
More funding for the arts means more art plain and simple, you're naive to think that we'll get more art by just "leaving it alone"
>>71268228
Also this except I disagree that globalism as a concept is inherently cancerous, it's just that many of its consequences seem arduous.

>>71268590
>globalism as a concept is inherently cancerous, it's just that many of its consequences seem arduous.
Same can be said for Socialism. But we live in the real world so globalism is cancer.

>>>/pol/

>>71256880
damn

>>71256880
Right wing electrical engineer that works on products that help lefties make and share music. Can confirm.