Conservatism is the new Punk Rock

WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL

Stop with this

I would give this post a . . . thumbs down hehe XD

I want /pol/ to leave

>>71252942
Punk is intended to be anti establishment
Progressiveness has been the establishment for some time now.
Conservatism is punk rock atm

>>71252942
Can /pol/ fuck off?

>>71252942
gtfo Paul

It is because there's no room for masculinity on the left

>>71253102
unless you're black, then it's ok to be masculine

who cares? punk is shit now and irrelevant
there were always some faggot teens like billy joe and shit british bands ruining punk anyways

>>71253114

Funnily on the left it goes unless you're black, you better be a complacent sissycuck

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>>71253070
This is flawed reasoning.

Punk is raging against the Trump infrastructure.

Punk, is anti-establishment, and Trump represented a faux-rebellion. He is the Blink 182 of politics. He's not real punk. The real punks still hate his inner dealings, corruption, and pro-corporatist stance.

Right wing is not punk.

Punk is anti-PC, but it's also pro-equality... that's the key point you kids who didn't even remember the 80's and 90's can't comprehend.

Punk, while anti-establishment, has railed on Obama-like pandering for NOT DOING ENOUGH, or for FOCUSING ON THE WRONG THINGS not for being "too librul".

You fucking neckbeard fucktards will be fucked over by real punks any day. STFU and stop posing as punks. That just makes us pity you sad fucks even more.

>>71252942
>poor people voting for big businessmen and the military-industrial complex
good job Ramones!

also reminder that there was no punk rock in the USA, and will never be

>>71253157
>>71253114
Don't forget Muslim men.
When they get sexual emergencies they must be free to fix it with the nearest woman or child.

>>71253070
>Conservatism is punk rock atm


that extreme right element has always been a part of punk with the neo nazis and the upper middle class shit kids wanting to be a part of the scene

were the Ramones ever political ?

>>71253245

It was always the lower class punks who were the "nazi" punks and always the upper middle class shits who pushed the pc faggotry

>>71253259
they were a joke act

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All political parties are for conformist faggots.

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>>71253289
All thinking is for conformist faggots.

>>71252942
ITT: We discuss how OP should kill himself.

>>71252942

NO, CNN is the new punk rock so is Hillary Clinton and Islam havn't you listened to Green Day's new album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cVJr3eQfXc

>>71253311
>>71253289

Max Stirner think in simplistic false dichotomies, I made the same mistake when I was 12 and my brain was still developing

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>>71253289
>>71253311
I can't handle all these spooks

>>71253360
Yeah, it's okay, I also remember a time where I was afraid of giving up on spooks.

>>71253360
Max Stirner is a spook

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>>71252942
Was he the greatest 'punk rocker' of all time?

>>71253289
And generalizations are for psuedo-intellectual faggots.

>>71253488
generalizations are a spook

>>71253488
Cool

>>71252942
I'm a part of the so-called "alt right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.

I thought Punic was about taking no shit from the zeitgeist and thinking for yourself.

Unfortunately, since there is no more zeitgeist or counterculture or any distinction anymore it really doesn't matter.

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>>71253510

This is why punk is dead.

Haha hell yea anyone else feeling the redpill?

>>71253670

My redpill is feeling your mother

>>71253176
>Implying punk only existed to push pro-progressive thought and ideology
>Implying it wasn't just to go against the grain and be a rebel
>The grain which is now political correctness and progressive thought

What doesn't make sense here?

>>71253665
least punk person of all time

I have never heard of a punk band that aligned with a specific political party, and if someone could point out a punk band that aligns with the conservative party, a party that's mostly for rich old dudes, then I'll eat my phone

Punk rock is shit so I guess, you're right.

>>71253732
t. least punk person of all time

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Left wing
Right wing
You can stuff the lot!

>>71252942
Actually, fascism has always been the real punk rock.

>>71253763
Actually, fuck off

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Like 98% of the art and entertainment world is nothing but liberals patting themselves on the back for being brave and rich in a world were everyone else is liberal.

Every leftist movement is commodified by capitalism and sold back to the drooling liberal masses who think buying a beyonce album is the way to support feminism.

Right wing artists are few and far in between, or not promoted because the entertainment world is incestuous and liberal and freeze out anyone who commits wrong think

>>71252942
You know what op, +1 for people still falling for this bait
>>71253094
>>71253176
>>71253330
>>71253514
>faggots bitching about an irrelevant genre

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Daily reminder........

>>71253176
>being this mad

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Reminder the hippie protests were against the Vietnam war hence against the democratic congress and demo president LBJ.Sleep well you mentally ill libs

>>71253787
think about it, what's more 'punk' than being all about might makes right and openly advocating for genocide?

>>71253741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814

And the Red Wedge movement.

>>71253510

I bet you my entire punk record collection this person has only been to two shows in the last 5 years.

The GLOSS demo was okay. But after that it stopped being fun.

>>71253963
Punk became famous during the carter administration a democratic president who nearly bankrupted the country hmmmmmmmm it's almost like the left are regressive and are sick in the head.

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>>71253967
>what's more 'punk' than being all about might makes right and openly advocating for genocide?
this is more 'punk'

>>71252942
Yup and the best part is all the liberals can do is screech with no arguments I'm lovin it

>>71254014
>uhh akshully punk rock is all about playing by the rules, respecting transgender pronouns and being PC all the time and also kill whitey ok.

This board is one of the worst places on the internet because of Twitter liberals

>>71253510
I bet she thinks Fall Out Boy is punk

Friends, can't we all just enjoy music?

>>71254303
NOT UNLESS IT CONFIRMS MY POLITICAL BELIEFS

>>71254282
Emo ruined punk

>>71253787
Wow oh wow, looks like someone just got triggered! I don't give a shit about your pussy ass feelings. Hail Victory!

>>71253070
>Progressives are the establishment
wowza

>>71253176
>that's the key point you kids who didn't even remember the 80's and 90's can't comprehend.

But we're not in the 80's or 90's anymore, are we. Times have changed. Saying your pro-equality in the modern world is equivalent to some people as saying "anti-white". "pro-equality" is just meaningless virtue signaling to those who are conservative and treat others with respect and decency.

>Right wing is not punk.

Tell that to Skrewdriver and other Oi! bands, but then again, you hate their guts because of their message so they don't count.

Also no true scotsman fallacy, or should I say, no true punk.

I've never been a punk. I've always been more inclined to progressive rock and metal. And thank Crom I ain't one of ya.

>>71254374
I think what he means is that progressives represent the cultural establishment, not the political establishment. The two are at odds with each other and will continue to clash until Trump leaves office.

>>71254374
The establishment is all about multiculturalism, PC, Zionism, gays and trannies and hating White people. Face it, the ultímate punk rebel is the fashy white nationalist.

Does anyone else like really relaxing apoltical folk-punk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsXuPw2Mg-E

>>71253176
lmao

Conservatism is basically traditionalism, while punk rock is basically anti-establishment. The two are inherently polar opposites.

>>71254408
Yup
>>71254389
No the liberals have controlled all of media and many states as well as parts of congress and nearly all judiciary stop with this mental gymnastics and stick to My Bloody Valentine

What's your favorite punk band, /mu/?

>>71254424
this

>>71253963
>>71253967
>>71254353
UNDERATED
>>71254424
Retard.

>>71254452
>mad

>>71254408
> multiculturalism
no
> PC
somewhat
> Zionism
yes
> gays and trannies
no
> hating white people
you mean nonwhite people

>>71254378
>tell that to Skrewdriver and other Oi! bands

You realize Skrewdriver are a rare exception politically to the entire Oi! scene right? Every other prominent band were pure anti-establishment (during a Conservative era no less) and focused on oppression and poverty within working class society.

Not right wing at all, fucking moron,

>>71253963
>this kills the liberals

>>71254408
White nationalists have always existed. Just because an ideology becomes increasingly archaic doesn't make it more "punk". Nothing more really needs to be explained.

>>71254455
>not knowing the difference between establishment and traditionalism
You can't argue so it's expected for insults to appear in your pebbrain

>>71254457
Lol what?btw no argument here as usual for commies

>>71254498
what

>>71254508
well at least you called me a commie and not a liberal lol

>>71254519
>He thinks this is a good thing

>>71254498
Lmao I don't know how you reached that conclusion. Keep your mouth shut and stay on the sidelines if you don't have basic reading comprehension.

>>71254511
See>>71253963
Should sum up your mental disorder

A refutation, keeping things simple:
Punk has, for the most part (9 times out of 10) stood for inclusiveness, equality, sticking up for the underdog, and a blending of culture. Sure, there's Skrewdriver and what not, but they are by far more representative of both the outliers and the conservative mindset that punk has historically fought against. The Trump rebellion is good for punk, honestly. It's what gave rise to so many punk bands when Reagan was in office way back when.

In a way, both things are true. This Trump thing was a rebellion, but it has nothing to do with punk and is currently fueling a lot of young people to write and record resistance anthems, accordingly. Enjoy the new wave of the underground, I say...

History repeats itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3THKuzgyg2g

>>71253754
what does this t. thing mean? Finnish?

>>71254508
if you legitimately think that the political establishment hates white people or supports trans people or multiculturalism (and not just bougie ident politics support for these things), then you're hopelessly lost

>>71254528
You don't what the words your spewing out because you're obviously underage there is a difference between conservatism and traditionalism and the establishment now pipe down and go protest or whatever you do with your unemployed self

>>71252942
conservativism in punk has been passe' since the 90's desu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iagUmxfdj0E

the only interesting punk being made now is apolitical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNPJix7I0sw

>>71254535
Inclusiveness is a leftist code word for hating strength and the strong while worshipping the very dregs of society,

>>71254550
If you think that white privelage exists and the gender wage gap exists you need to seek professional help

>>71254525
yeah I'm pretty pleased with it

>>71254562
I know exactly what I'm saying and am always 100% correct. I'm sorry you're spazzing out because I'm clarifying how conservatism is in no way punk. It's odd why this is even so important to you that you're having an emotional breakdown.

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>>71254575
Exactly or just hating white people because they're better off financially

>>71254577
do you really mean that? you think that all of the people who have done extensive research on both of these topics are somehow mentally ill? seems a bit of a stretch guy

>>71254535

Trump isn't Reagan though, he's not even really a conservative. The political landscape is kind of dissolving

>>71254575
Tell that to the Bad Brains

>>71254562
lol you can't be real

>>71254581
Your the one who can't define conservatism and traditionalism you're very incorrect did i hit the nail on the head? That you protested the past couple weeks lol it's ok if your ill son

>>71254575
or "codeword" for just not being a huge dick

>>71254599
Yes white privelage doesent exist and your obviously just jeolous like everyone else of someone having blue eyes lmao

>>71254577
The post you are replying to has nothing to do with those topics

>>71254550
>open browser
>see constant anti-trump headlines
>everything with an unabashed liberal spin from major news outlets
>See hollywood movie
>promotes liberal world view
>turn on TV
>every TV personality is a liberal
>Go to college
>Every academic is a liberal or even a leftist
>any right wing speech is considered hate speech on campus
>literally everything promoting an anti-white worldview
>every member of the elite class advocates policies intended to systematically destroy western culture and our way of life
>But we got a guy who thinks we should have slightly less immigration in the white house so the establishment is really white supremacist

>>71254599
And who cares if it does I want the best for my people because we deserve it all the modern world is a White invention. If anything all other races have been really pushing it lately with their entitlement and their ungratefulness

What does conservatism have to do with race?

>>71254610
I'm real and nobody has an argument to explain why whites are racist when in actuality the blacks and hispandix are the most racist people on this planet

>>71254237
Why wouldn't it?

>>71254663
I agree Fascist pro genocide views need to be fairly represented on media

>>71254663
> systematically destroying western culture
> a bad thing

>>71254663

I love how liberals won't address this why do you hate facts lefties?>>71253963
>>71253963

Ramones are right-wing?

>>71254408
>>71254237
>>71254378
NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF

punk threads on /mu/ have always been bad but with the /pol/ invasion/dawn of this meme they've become genuinely angering to look at

this board is cancer, none of you know shit about music or music cultures

>>71254690
The post was intended to refute the idea that the establishment is anything but left-wing. This is a non-sequitur.

>>71254696
Wow I'm so t r i g g e r e d

>>71254608
Bad Brains are conservative ?

>>71254663
There's nothing wrong with taking precautions for the safety of the country but there's so many flaws and holes with the wall he wants to build. Believe me, I'm for slowing the flow of illegal immigration, but a wall just won't do it

>>71254663
> "liberal spin"
> "or even a leftist"
> omg spooky leftist

> "literally everything promoting an anti-white worldview"
> "literally everything"

>"every member of the elite class advocates policies intended to systematically destroy western culture"
> i don't even

>>71254704
Anti White, please. Don't you know that doesn't work anymore? We will no longer submit to your manipulation your guilt and your lies. We are here, we are strong and we are waking up. The end of cultural Marxism is nigh. Hail Victory!

>>71254724
> I'm 12 and saying "triggered" is a real laugh

>>71254727
They aren't exactly welcoming to homosexuals.

>>71254608
no argument the post

>>71254675
Good punk doesn't halfass its politics. Conservative punk must be completely (but not necessarily overtly) fascist, because telling people to vote for Newt Gingrich wouldn't be shocking enough.

>>71254728
Whether or not there's a physical wall there needs to be a permanent border control solution and he better make it happen.

>>71254732
>not one single argument

>>71254744
>I'm 10 and I don't understand irony

>>71254746
Nice another great right wing band added to the greatest artists list just like The Who and oasis

Being a lefty is old news. Teachers are lefties, professors are lefties, celebs are lefties, the news anchors are lefties, the 20 somethings are lefties. Lefty is trendy.

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>>71254736
Boi ur butt's done for now

>>71254736
> reaches into bag of cheetos

>>71254719
also punk hasn't "always been anti-estaishment", it's always been heavily left-leaning, which for a good deal of its existence and its formative years, WAS anti-establishment, and even when simply being left-leaning WASN'T, the views espoused by punk bands were often too extreme for the mainstream. Punk is not and never has been "contrarianism for the sake of going against the grain" except in the eyes of the most clueless and braindead people who don't listen to punk, and you should all fucking kill yourselves

>>71254699
>liberals
>leftists
lmao

>>71254753
You didn't answer my question.

So many /pol/tards and /his/ shitposters. Wtf is going on /mu/? I thought I could find here something about conservatism and punk, but found here just pricks and Trump.

>>71254736
>I'm genetically superior because I can grow the SICKEST beard on my third chin

>>71254765
Add Yellowman to that illustrious list.

>>71254776
They're located on the same political spectrum just like you classify anyone right of JFK a nazi fascist

>>71254756
And I agree with that, but the wall simply won't solve the issue. If I recall most illegal immigrants get here by plane and simply continue to stay once their visas expire. He could restrict visa issuance but we've already had a huge shitstorm with that EO last month (and for the record I think that was hastily implemented too.) The guy needs some experienced people to advise him instead of a bunch of yes men.

On a somewhat unrelated note, there was a lot of laughably bad pro-Hillary music released last year, was there any pro-Trump music? I could use the laugh

>>71254789
I Q
Q

>>71254550

Trans people? Nobody is "trans", it's a mental illness that's being pushed by elite eugenicists.

>>71254791
Elvis too
>inb4 "hurrhurr oldman fug Elvis"

>>71254783
We've had this thread multiple times and it alway devolves into the same arguments.

>>71254756
> wow nice "irony"
tell me how saying "literally everything promotes an anti-white worldview" is worthy of a rebuttal. this is clearly not true. you have to prove this, not me

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>>71253963

Yes all the conservatives who have sanity name you favorite artist right now
Mine is pic related

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>>71254777
Yes I did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKiB8-2LK6s

>>71254776
lmao are you retarded?

>>71254807
I'm willing to admit that there probably are people who are born that way. They just have fucked up brains and think they're the wrong gender.

Basically anything that can go wrong in a person will go wrong in some people. Every possible thing you could imagine will be fucked up in some percentage of individuals. There's people born with no fingers, two dicks, depression, cystic fibrosis, can't eat gluten, allergic skin reaction to fucking clean water--every possible thing.

I don't doubt that these people are real and not bullshitting about what goes on in their heads. But that doesn't mean we're going to change everything to cater to their delusions. That's where it goes to far.

I don't care if you dress in a skirt and call yourself a girl. Be a weirdo if you want. But you're not playing women's sports, going into women's bathrooms, etc.

>>71254767
how can something be trendy and old news?

>>71254860
most real leftists (i.e. communist and anarchists) despise liberals. liberals support capitalism. learn to political theory

>>71254860
No, but you seem to be that way.

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>>71253070
I'd argue liberalism and conservatism are both establishment.

The only real anti establishment ideology in America right now is Libertarianism.

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>>71254802
>was there any trump music

All the trump music was indie and fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1w4IxCXIxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_phkY6usCF4

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>>71254836
There's more examples and this agenda has clearly been pushed if you can't see it you're probably retarded

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>>71254836
I gave examples prior to that statement. And I was being hyperbolic.

>>71254863
A person cannot possibly be allergic to clean water. They would die almost immediately

>>71254909
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160915-the-woman-who-is-allergic-to-water

She can drink it, hence why I said skin reaction.

>>71254896
>Goldstein
Every time

>>71254876
Leftists don't really care about capitalism, they will side with the capitalists every fucking time when it comes to what really matters: chasing down every last white person

>>71254896
> a screenshot of a random blogpost
> proof of anything
> can't get behind dubious proof so I'm "retarded"
> using the word "retarded"
ugh, fuck this website

>>71254880
you can't be pro-capitalist and anti-establishment dude sorry

>>71254926
you're silly!

>>71254896
This one is actually a fake /pol/ troll but the media is obviously liberal and promotes views which are in practice anti-white. I don't see how anyone could possibly argue against the first part of that. The second part is another argument.

>>71254926
lmao what the fuck, you have no idea what you're talking about

>>71254931
What if I told you there's more to politics than economics

>>71254927
That's not a blogpost that's on a "news" website and don't you find it funny how whites can't be racist and the media backs up anyone who says that whites can only be racist ecpecially cnn Communist network but keep providing no arguments and being mad when facts are being shown

>>71254931

Capitalism in the purest sense is free trade between free people, it doesn't have to be corporatism. Whether it's establishment or not doesn't mean anything.

>>71254907
> omg look at those people trying to do the tiniest thing to counteract centuries of white male dominated, colonialist history by hiring a person of color. MUH WHITE GENOCIDE

>>71254923
This blows my mind. I literally don't understand how this person can function.
Her body is 70% water.

>>71254963
lol

>>71254970

>we need to counteract by oppressing groups of people who once oppressed other groups of people

this shitflinging never ends, there's always going to be someone at the top, and someone getting revenge in this game

>>71253070
Now they're all the establishment.

>>71254970
It IS white genocide. We are not stupid. we know what the endgame is. There is a deliberate plan to destroy our people through marxist social engineering. This is nature, tooth and claw. everyone fights for survival, except us. we are not allowed to fight for our children like other peoples.

>>71254970
...Are you honestly defending blatantly discriminatory hiring practices because of history?

I want you to read what you've just written, look at the pic again, and reflect on how your thinking can possibly be this retarded.

>>71254987
but hiring a person of color is not systematically oppressing white people in that instance. white people in the "children's tv host" sector are not losing jobs in record numbers, they're doing pretty good

>>71254944
No it's not it's a real article.if you go on cnn you literally see articles saying "did Beyoncé lose a Grammy because of racism"?Not acknowledging the fact that beyonce has 22 Grammies Adele who obviously has more talent had to basically cuck herself and give her soul to Beyoncé on stage.music and all of entertainment/media has literally never been at a lower point in humanity it's hilarious

>>71254994
>We are not stupid
mmm

>>71255002
How does that support the claim that the article is real?

The article is definitely fake, it's just some troll someone put up on thought catalog. The pic is of some SJW I can't remember the name of, not "Emily Goldstein".

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>>71254999
Usually the spot is given to a Pee-Oh-Cee with subpar IQ and abilities, while , meanwhile much more deserving white kids are passed over because Marxism

>>71254999

I speak for the overall tendency of the radical left that believe in white penance. Affirmative action and identity politics are all shit

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>>71254994
You euphoric loser. Did you read the contents of what you just wrote? Your baseless raving tells me that you are a mental midget. A specimen like you wouldn't be fit to clean my toilet

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>>71254987>>71254996
>>71255002

There's no point in arguing with these people think who you're talking to. They think pedophila isnt a serious crime but merely a sexual exploration. These are people who think you can choose your gender lmaooo it's better just trolling them>>

>>71254996
if they are hiring a specific person a certain racial makeup for a tv show, its not discriminatory. if you're making a film about slavery and someone auditions for a part as a slave but they're not black, denying them is not discriminatory under the law...

>>71255042
Fatass

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Look, everyone, I'm a liberal, so I'm smarter than you even though I'm a Muslim who professors wouldn't dare flunk.

>>71255022
Literally look it up you haven't provided me any arguments I'm not going to babysit you

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>>71253005
tell me where the white ppl touched you milo

>>71254970
>>71254996
I mean of course the premise of your statement here is totally wrong. The reason whites tend to dominate and achieve more positions of power and financial success today is not because of a legacy of "colonialist history". It's because of the same reason Asians are successful well (and even more so than whites). IQ. 100 for white people and 105 for Asians. Consistently and even after controlling for socio-economic background.

>>71255049
But why is the studio making the racial make-up of the TV show explicitly anything but white? Not even a specific race, just anything but white? For christ's sake, try to think about these things just one logical step further.

>>71255056
An satirical loser like you wouldn't be fit to clean my toilet

>>71255032
do you have proof or even a qualitative argument that this is happening to white people systematically? no I know you don't, all you have is racist drivel

>>71255086
Racist isn't a argument anymore your code word for anti white isn't based on facts try harder kiddo

>>71255002
I think their logic behind that is the fact Beyonce has only 4 wins in the general categories, being "snubbed" for AOTY by Beck, Taylor Swift, and Adele, and she hasn't won in any of the general categories since 2010. Plus, there's also the fact that she's, you know, Beyonce, and everyone loves writing about Beyonce.

Personally it's more or less an established fact that the Grammys are nothing more than a celebration of accessibility and commercialism, and that's not going to change anytime soon

>>71255074
maybe they are trying to make the cast of their show slightly more diverse to appeal to a wider audience of people, not just white people? idk what else to tell you man its pretty obvious why they're doing it

>>71255115
Oh it's quite obvious why they're doing it. The same reason these people can barely conceal their glee when they see the figures on the declining white population.

Can't wait to live in brazil

>>71255098
It was never an "argument" and I didn't pass it off as one. what is it with reactionaries and spewing nonsense, then coming at anyone who calls them out for "not having an argument" lol?

>>71255104
Yeah but cnn in a cryptic pseud intellectual way blamed the population of white people and Adele has far less Grammies

>>71255146
Because you're retarded when I say whites are becoming a minority and Marxism effects people you say I'm a racist hence you have no argument get the picture

>>71255115
tv shows are going to make whatever people demand, saying that that simple business practice is part of a calculated plan to erase white people is ridiculous. you guys really just lampoon yourselves at this point

>>71255153
nobody takes the spectacle more seriously than /pol/ does. They have an almost childlike faith in media pseudo events, perhaps even more than the liberals with their Beyonce gifs.

>>71255179
the way you type makes it seem like you're having mini strokes along the way!

>>71255192
Ugh you're unemployed aren't you go outside

>>71255215
> everyone who goes on the internet who disagrees with me is unemployed

I truly haven't heard this one before so I gotta give you props

>>71255188
A majority of a population take attention to it ive never even watched the Grammies they are being guided on what to think in media just like you :>)

>>71255227
Throwing insults on the Internet really isn't anything but infantile tantrums it really has nothing to do with disagreement son

>>71252942
Punk rock is not PC. It is culturally-appropriated music, made by 99% white teenagers, with themes of violence and aggression. It's mostly an expression of masculine anger and hatred.

The political situation is, if you're white you can't listen to or make any music with authentic cultural influences. This is because if those influences are from people of color, it's appropriation. If they are from white people, it's white supremacy.

The only progressive music you're allowed to listen to, make or promote is modern pop. This is because, to the greatest extent possible, it has no cultural identity, so there's nothing to be offended by. Pop music is just a combination of every possible influence simplified, commercialized and exploited for profit. But that commercialization is not offensive anymore, I guess.

>>71254979
lol like omg wow just wow

>>71255042
dirty dumpy fat boy is calling people euphoric losers!
watch out or he might cry in your direction

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>>71253117

>mfw punk is damn good right now, just gotta go out looking for it.
>mfw the retarded punk police
> "muh politix! don't write about your feelings, faggot!"
>""""""""real"""""""" punks don't (blah blah)
Get absolutely fucked

>>71253259
Bonzo Goes to Bitburg. Otherwise, not really. Johnny was a conservative though.

>>71253963
>no one addressed this
Liberals are pathetic

in case y'all missed it


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>>71255320
I aint fat bitchh

>>71255347
Agreed everytime these threads are made this is exactly what's displayed

>>71255368
No one cares about your anecdotes samefag

>>71254408
>The establishment is all about multiculturalism, PC, Zionism, gays and trannies and hating White people. Face it, the ultímate punk rebel is the fashy white nationalist.

If that were true, Nationalism, homophobia, transphobia, and pro-white racism would be marginalized, rather than institutionalized and entrenched.

>>71255368
no one missed that crybaby bullshit, how could we...

>>71255401
How pink is your hair lol

>>71255401
>Nationalism, homophobia, transphobia, and pro-white racism would be marginalized
they are marginalised. It's perfectly ok to say you hate white people or straight people and want to wipe them off the earth. Leftists do it all the time. But try saying the reverse and see what happens.

>>71255368
What this>>71253963
I know leftists are cute

>>71255413
the welfare state later torn to shreds by the also democratic clinton administration. And also what was 1968 and the riots at the chicago convention? the democratic party has always represented a slightly different segment of the ruling class.

>>71255428
>the welfare state was ripped to shreds
HAHAHAHAHA
LMAOOOOOO

lol imagine how much punk would suck if not for white men.

Let's face it, white people are the closest thing to gods.

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>>71255401
woah just look at these poor, marginalised, oppressed gays.

>>71255449
That's why they hate us baby girl
Those filthy mudskins

>>71253963
Yes they were. Because they were out for a specific set of ideals, not a political party.
Also this has nothing to do with the discussion. Hippies aren't punks.

>>71255443
>>No argument
Geez, these righties sure like to yell and make nopints

>>71255454
This is why I refuse to accept homosexuality as a genetic trait or a lifestyle. It's very clear that it's a radical political ideology that deliberately targets children.

I'm not saying that all gays should be gassed, but the US needs Russia-style laws that prevents this obvious propaganda.

>>71253176
This guy actually gets it.

>>71255467
Clinton didn't rip up anything and his policies were more conservative ask any political expert on this lol just admit the democrats duped you

>>71254931
Is anarchism not capitalism? Anarchism is what a lot of punks called for, and that's almost the same as libertarianism, minus government protecting you from other people.

>>71255479
I was not duped. I am fully aware of Clinton's poro-corporate policies. Like implementing NAFTA.

>>71255401
>no. of people who have lost their jobs for speaking out against racism
vs
>no. of people who have lost their jobs for speaking out against mentally ill men in wigs showing their dicks to little girls

"but hatred is entrenched in the system!"

lmao

>>71254469
I didn't realize if I erroneously lump Skrewdriver in with all Oi! bands, it invalidates my argument, despite citing an example of a band that goes against the grain of your argument . I understand that is the exception to Oi!, but that exception proves that punk isn't anti right-wing, Skrewdriver are a right-wing punk band. What more do you fucking want?

You do realize that your moralizing punk as a movement is what is killing punk, right?
>>71254378
>me, a centre-right libertarian
>not a punk
>nazi punk

I'm not sure if you're trolling, but you're really fucking stupid.

>>71255400
>never claimed to be different person
>LOL samefag GOTTEM

kys

>>71255403
>you are wrong and retarded
>LOL crybaby!

retard

>>71255413
it's almost like the Democratic party isn't actually left-wing!

also
>everyone with left-leaning beliefs is a Democrat
>everyone who does not like Democrats/liberals is a faggot-ass /pol/ retard and general burden to society

retard

>>71255624
Settle down samefag don't wanna split your synapses now go listen to Loveless or whatever your left wing illness draws you too

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>>71255072
>hasn't applied for a job since Jimmy Carter
>hasn't been on a job hunt since 1982
>Carter stopped being President in 1981

Well, fuck you then, motherfucker!

>>71255624
Are you having a stroke lmao and no LBJ is one of the most left presidents of the 20th century just like all commie sympathizing demos

>>71254775
Punk was never left wing

>>71252942
Prison Planet fuck off /mu/

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Fruitful Reminder: republican whites freed slaves.Only race to do so.Now take a breather I know facts can be hard on you but you're going to need to calm down.

>>71253272
That's not true at all lil nigga

>>71255449
>>71255455
Actually the world would be much better with all of you dead.

>>71255782
/pol/ fuck off

You will never be welcomed here

>>71255798
Keep crying you know you would all sell your left foot for a 6/10 white chick lmao

>>71254996
Keep fighting the good fight anon

>>71255807
Suck a dick

>>71255807
>"ahh facts hurt"
Literal pathetic.

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>>71253403
According to friendly cowboybiker rock'n'roller Hitler was the first rock star. I don't remember in what book was it
>"I've always liked a good uniform, and throughout history, it's always been the bad guy who dressed the best: Napoleon, the Confederates, the Nazis. If we had a good uniform, I'd collect ours as well, but what does the British Army have? Khaki. Makes them look like like a f***ing swamp frog...
>Hermann Goering is "the only one I admire at all," in part because the portly Luftwaffe chief set up the Gestapo, the Nazis' secret police, and took the blame when he went on trial at Nuremberg after the war. His suicide, hours before he was due to be hanged, was "fantastic," Kilmister said.

I want /pol/ to leave

>>71252942
>implying punk isn't dead
>implying there's a need for punk to come back
>implying it didn't produce at most 1 hour of good music out of all punk records

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>Had millions of adoring fans
>went on a grand tour
>dressed very fashonibly
>committed suicide

>>71254775

Good God this.

Punk has always been about saying fuck you to conservative dipshits who want to pretend they know what's best for others. And a big part of that has been sticking up for marginalized people (at least in principle if not always in practice). The dorks who say thinks like "being conservative is the new punk" are the same kind of dorks who say things like "are you really a non-conformist if you dress like each other". The point continues to elude them. But they were never involved in any of it to begin with so who the fuck cares what they think?

>>71254696
Yay, back to the Dark Ages.

>>71252942
I agree that Conservatism died in the 1980's

>>71255902
Punks was never left wing

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>>71255925
What about Black Flag and Dead Kennedys?

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>>71255401
>there are people that actually believe this

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>>71255960
Dead Kennedy was more libertarian right
And black flags lead singer is an admitted autist and dyslexic so a sane person wouldnt listen to his political beliefs

>>71255977
>Dead Kennedys were Libertarian right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58aSJQ9d_cQ
And in case you thought "but it's not the full band", Jello wrote the songs, and I'm sure his politics have stayed consistent since the 80s so the fact that it's new shouldn't matter
>black flags lead singer is an admitted autist and dyslexic so a sane person wouldnt listen to his political beliefs
So? Still left-wing,and Punk. Are you trying to get me to suck your dick with this bait or something?

>>71255995
What a flaming flagging Faggot lmfao

>>71255995
They're both shitty bands death in June destroys everything they've written

>>71256019
Ok kid

>>71256043
You're the punk kid and both those bands are objective trash

>>71256040
Suck my ass it smells

>>71255782
Underrated

desu im a punk and i don't give a fuck about the political side of the movement my only aim in life is to have fun and piss everyone else off while doing it. oh and also drugs lots of drugs

>>71256063
Ok kid

>>71256069
Lefties really are mental patients maybe you can suck the ward off if that's your thing kiddo

>>71256083
Radio head is trash too gets some taste lil boy

>>71256111
What is your top 5, don;t meme me now boi

>>71256099
If you are on 4chan and are not mentally ill you are lost

>>71256128
Shut up slut I'll give you one and that's the pixies but not in my top 5

>>71256141
Lmao do a nosedive on your floor

>>71256176
You first cunt

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LZS_0UXzW4

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>>71256185
No