/prod/ - music production general

>>71194258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvG5lvOjl3I

1st for kawaii beats!

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>thread is 1 hour ago
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Poor /prod/..

Also I came to ask what keyboard JYP is holding in this picture

what's the best way to work out when theres an offbeat in a rhythm

I posted an unfinished version of this yesterday, now it's done. Looking for thoughts and opinions, be brutal pls

https://clyp.it/gjdiv4tm

>>71195776
What do YOU think is wrong with it anon?

What is the best kickdrum in all of music?

Post examples.

>>71195920
I'm not sure, my ears are fatigued from working on it all day

>>71195776
It sounds like a demo that Jon Hopkins never finished. Just lacks a bit of sparkle or dynamics or something.

The bass sounds like they want to open up and get more ferocious than they do. Nothing really bursts out.

Drums sound like pretty standard field-recorder sample cut and paste shit.

There's no real aural hook. No sound that I'm latching on to or I'm desperate to hear more of.

Still better than anything I've ever done or probably will by a large margin.

As a side note I remember you from soundcloud threads probably 4-5 years ago. I liked your stuff back then too. You did a track In Walmart or something? With field recordings and noises, I thought that was pretty cool.

>>71195776
Really like your use of the typewriter, however the intro takes to long before you finally start adding other sounds to it.

>>71196006
You're right, fuck

(and that's cool that you remember me and that old-ass track of mine, thanks bruh)

>>71196016
You're not the first person to say this so duly noted, thanks for listening

>thred alred ded
bump

What pad design do you guys use to achieve that thick low-midrange?

The engineering manuals and soundonsound articles I read tell me to high pass my pads at 300hz, which usually ends up removing all weight from them.

Should I be mixing it with a sub bass? It never feels right when I do.

>>71195776
why does every single /prod/ clip has such an obnoxiously long intro

engaging the listener is such a basic exercise in songwriting yet everyone here refuses wtf

>>71196044
I agree m8

needs more high end in most of it too, just a little dull sounding without anything in that frequency range for half the time.

There's that little bell sound in the background and outro that is nice, maybe just smash dat the whole way through the track I dunno.

>>71197211
Depends on the situation for sub.

High pass it wherever the fuck you want. If it isn't sounding thick enough because you are taking out the frequencies that make it sound thick then just don't do that. Do whatever you want man. Just be yourself.

https://clyp.it/mpidfvls

pretty barebones draft of a beat im working on. never really done this style before but im trying to experiment.

what's the best set of samples or VST to use to make cheesy but authentic 80s synthwave

>>71199279
any analog sounding synth like the Arturia stuff and all the drum machines from the 80's

there you go

https://mega.nz/#!3stl1CBJ!iTdSCu14f6LlR2UhEy-8g4WHGCVBo0JQ0nmZHAreJo4

>>71194258
Overpriced fucking attempt at a shop

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>>71195229
Casio MA150

I need the best vocal synth pack compatible with Ableton you have

Preferably one for which price doesn't have to be an issue ;)))

>>71199452
shit man, I wasn't expecting an actual response. thank you so much.

>>71201490
<3

>>71201343
what do you mean like choir samples

>>71202297
Yeah, things like that. Getting into weird territory in my music and I'd like to have some of that around

>>71201343
serum is pretty easy for things like YAYAYAY formant shit, not only for wubs

Alright, I got rid of most of the annoying long intro and tried to bring out the highs more:

https://clyp.it/0ep45fr3

is it still shit?

>>71202339
go on rutracker and make an account so you can see all the torrents and there are vocal/choir sample libraries and kontakt libraries when you search

Can someone explain how to get this cycling synth sound? https://clyp.it/0svqgeef
I don't know how to describe it properly but it kinda sounds like the oscillator is kinda restarting itself very quickly almost?
I thought I'd be able to imitate it via an arpeggiator or something but it doesn't sound quite as good

>>71202774
Sawtooth LFO --> Filter on synth

Anyone recommend any good orchestral vst/libraries? Orchestral suite is too expensive for how poor I am.

>>71203584
east west composer cloud is like $15 a month
that's as cheap as it gets for that kind of shit, especially when you compare it to vsl

>>71203584
I fyou have Ableton Suite there are a bunch of free orchestral packs that are great

>>71200859
>Casio MA150
thanks!

can't crank my speakers enough to really hear the low end without my neighbours getting pissy. any anon let me know if its sounding ok?

skip to around 6:00 for where it's busiest down there:
https://clyp.it/oar0zvod

>>71205120
I think the kick decays a little too long, it could be punchier and shorter
also the pitch drop envelope on it gets annoying really fast, I'd tone that down

>>71205258
forgot to say otherwise the low end is fine, quite balanced

>>71205258

thanks

Hit me with your best 80s VST's senpai

https://clyp.it/2maggv1c

First time trying something other than hip-hop

Please i'm new at making original music and not chopping samples, critique the shit out of this

>>71205733

U-he Diva

>>71205733
uhe diva

>>71205733
dexed

>>71205258
me again. would you mind...

is this any better?
https://clyp.it/ptnjlarg

>>71206793
>tfw only use both the very bottom and the very top
What feel should I be feeling

>>71206793
>no Audacity
>no Audition

>>71194258
https://youtu.be/Wale9ymoJDM

plugins and techniques that will help my beats sound like this?

>>71207064
like what specifically? or just like shit in general

>>71206793
>no pyramix
>no kyma

>>71207657
you picked the wrong software, buster

Took a day off, still wip. Added more variation, tweaked some effects etc.

https://clyp.it/5vcv1jzf

this isn't me but a user here posted it

https://soundcloud.com/kung-pao/fresh-air


how do i get my 808 to sound like that? @ 1:00

https://clyp.it/3or5tvqo

Playin around with the pan

/prod/ i tried posting this shit on /gg/ but i feel like i might actually get knowledgeable answers here.
https://clyp.it/5r0uevyi

link related is one of my first attempts at production, its an intro to a swedish style melodeath project. looking for any tips and pointers for a noob

>>71206855
>Audition
>music production

m8

>>71206793
fl should be lower

>>71206793
you people dont really think this do you?

>>71209599
lurk for a while and you will see that this is probably a worse general than grimes or kpop

>>71209599
no, people just keep feeling the need to make their own one of these

https://clyp.it/tmd0ikey

wow, yet another project file where i complete 4 bars and leave it for months. can u guys see this going anywhere? or is it too much s u c c

What pedals should I buy for my new microbrute?

>>71210505
eventide space

>>71210516
thats really expensive dude

>>71210714
it's the best reverb pedal there is, though

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>>71199452
>the /prod/ gods dropped a .rar of more DMs than I could ever hope to have

truly based

poorfag here looking for a way to get free samples.

I heard ableton has free Packs on their site, do I need an ableton license to download them?

>>71211210
<3 one love homie

>>71211228
see>>71199452

>>71211256
Thanks anon now I can make Shitīpoppu like my favorite 80s nippon artists

Hey guys, so i made this little "beat" tuesday night. Wanted to get some feedback, I think it's a nice little idea.
https://clyp.it/pgaec5zj

>>71211411
mmm

>>71211431
Currently your subbass is polyphonic which is causing more than one voice to play simultaneously. This is generally sounds bad, and is the case here as well. It's causing a volume spike. Make the bass cut itself off and perhaps adjust the end volume envelope to not make it so legato.

https://clyp.it/uqast0kz
is this worth anything
I love making music but my output has been fucking garbage lately

>>71211621
I'll make sure to make note of that. I should have also mentioned that nothing is mixed or eq'd at the moment. Thanks for teaching me something

What do you guys do to get around Ableton Live's piss poor panning? Is there a vst or something that does Pro Tools style pan pots or binaural panning/spatializers? Tempted to switch to Logic for this reason alone, I can't stand the lack of mixing flexibility in Live

>>71212212
what's different about protools panning?
obviously there's a lot of binaural plugins

>>71212277
>obviously there's a lot of binaural plugins
Can you name one or two that isn't complete shit? And the difference is that Pro Tools uses pan pots while Live simply reduces the volume on the opposite channel when panned either way using the channel strip

>>71212374
that's exactly how stereo panning works, on all desks, in all daws. the only difference is the level curves (equal gain, equal power, ssl style arbitrary fuckup, ...)

check out the flux ircam suite, there's some neat spatializing stuff in there
also newaudiotechnology's SAD
these are the more advanced ones if you're not satisfied with the shit that waves and so on put out

>>71212374
>Live simply reduces the volume on the opposite channel when panned either way using the channel strip
i read you can make an effect rack to do this

>>71212515
>i read you can make an effect rack to do this
Very interested in this, going to look into it

>>71212574
i found a max for live device if you use that http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2135/faint-response-track-stereo-pan-enabler

i think this is the effect rack i read about changing the pan law
http://mc-audio.com/blog/?p=72

idk friends, i kind of just dont want to be alive anymore. music is one of the last productive things i feel like doing in my shit life but its never going to make me money. do i just kill myself?
whats the deal. how do people go through life without just shooting themselves or intentionally OD'ing on something?

>>71212650
You're the best familio estevez

>>71212688
by having goals and believing in yourself to achieve them. if I didn't have my music goals and aspirations I'd probably be fucked up

>>71212718
i have had goals in my life from a young age but im 30 now and i havent achieved them, just have been in and out of homelessness and drug addiction and shit instead.

>>71212212
DualPanner

http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/09/20/sleepy-time-dsp/

>>71212688
i know the feeling senpai. ive been really suicidal all this week. but in the end, it really doesnt matter that we arent gonna make money off this shit. what matters is that it makes us happy and lets us express ourselves. having people appreciate us and what we do is more valuable than any money. as the other guy said, setting goals is a good idea. ive decided im gonna try to finish an album sometime this year, and ive started learning how to solder to try to build some synth kits. it doesnt matter if you suck as long as you enjoy it, and the more time you put into it the less you suck, so its a win win situation.

https://clyp.it/cnmrz4xf

the part at the end with the stabs totally isnt done but whatever.

>>71212803
you still got plenty of time to achieve goals. im totally addicted to drugs too unfortunately, got back on opis this week, but eh could be worse. its never too late to start achieving goals, or at least putting your best into trying. my dad didnt start making music till he was like 35 and he's a professor at a music school now, so it definitely can be done.

>>71212848
but, for real dude, i WILL starve to death pretty soon here. i t doesnt matter that making music makes me happy, i havent eaten anything but peanut butter all month. homelessness isnt fun, and i cant make music if im homeless either.

>>71212886
well shit senpai, yeah being homeless makes it a lot harder. have you tried busking? you could make a bit of money off that maybe.

>>71212882
idk man guess i just dont have any hope left. i cant even hold down a min wage part time job in the detroit area, what the fuck? im obviously worthless to any employer, and my parents fucking hate me and all my friends think im an asshole because im too poor to own a car and drive out to hang with them. life is fucking dumb.

>>71212886
depending where you live there are places that will let you eat and shelters that are cheap as fuck but you have to sleep around hardcore bums and there are also services sometimes to help you get housing/employment

i have been homeless before but not for long only a few months and it was fucking gay

>>71212886
>>71212953
Damn, can I hear about what it's like to be homeless?

>>71212922
least youve got some friends! though if they think youre an asshole for that they dont seem like very good ones. holding down a job isnt really important in the longer term. i cant hold down one either to be honest. definitely look around for services. i had a homeless beggar ask me for weed out of the blue yesterday and i couldnt help but give him a bit of cash, if you got any jokes you could try unleashing them. same guy was asking for a dollar over and over then suddenly asked for fifteen thousand, if i start laughing i feel really bad for not giving anything.

>>71212992
i was homeless in northeast usa during the winter for 3-4 months and it was fucking bullshit

i kicked in abandoned apartment windows in a ghetto neighborhood to not freeze to death and not eating every day

this was over 10 years ago but now i am doing ok

>>71212992
every day is a mystery whether or not youll eat, or have a safe place to sleep. not sure how else to really explain it.
i was very stressed out every day. lost a ton of weight and a bunch of my hair fell out. developed issues with my teeth and general health issues. have chronic back pain from sleeping on the ground. developed symptoms of schizophrenia after a year of homelessness. shit sucks. dont be homeless.

>>71213052
>developed symptoms of schizophrenia
if you dont already you should put in to get on ssi this is what i have and it is $720 a month what i get for being schizophenic and a studio apt here can costs $450 all bills paid

the problem is it takes maybe a year or something to get approved but you get backpay for while you wair

>>71213120
i dont even have the resources to get to a therapist.. idk. im not sure where to even start. i have a list of mental illnesses i try to cope with on a daily basis and i just dont feel like anyone is going to give enough of a shit to listen to me about them, or they aren debilitating enough to warrant some kind of govt aid... but here i am at 30 andthe amount of money ive made in the past 10 years is less than 10k.....

Actually am curious as to why there are so many previous and current homeless people in a music production thread? Is there some correlation there? I'm also not really sure how people can be homeless in the facebook era...don't people have couches they can crash on and people they can hit up?

Genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick

>>71213195
i crashed on a couch for 6 months and the person i was living with now hates me. im assuming you just run out of charity at some point.

>>71213174
i am in texas and they have this shit called mhmr its for retards and people with mental illness it is free and they basically intervied me and filled out my paper work for me you say you are in detroit michigan so they might have something similar

>>71213174
people definitely can help you. therapists really help a lot with this type of stuff. try searching on google for folks in your area. ssi is basically made for folks like you.

>>71213211
contrary to what pol would like you to believe, there are a bunch of systems in place to help

have you heard bogdan raczynski by the way? my favorite musician, he used to be homeless for a while.

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>>71213334
>bogdan

>>71213237
did an SSI screening test, said im not eligible for anything

>>71213409
is it because youre not old enough? if youre disabled, that requirement disappears.

>>71213557
i doubt anyone is going to label me as disabled since my problems are purely mental. im transgender, schizo, bipolar / depressed, but none of these things are going to matter to your average person reviewing this shit. how the fuck do i function in normal society i dont get it.

>>71213694
i can assure you thats definitely enough. my uncle is on ssi from OCD so I have a bit of experience with it, course thats a different thing.

unfortunately i cant help you function in normal society. thats why i'm here too. and i guess that answers the question of why theres so many homeless people in /prod/

Dumbass question, but I can't find the right hi-hat sound I've been looking for. Specifically one like from 33 to 35 seconds on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o4Zj98FeX4

>>71214058
the one that goes down and then up in pitch? it's probably a snare, not a hi hat

>>71214108
Holy fuck how am I that dumb

>>71213694
It sounds like you're going to have to work hard "fake it until you make it" and use any means necessary to get by, even if it leaves you unhealthy and even more depressed, like everyone else. and just like everyone else, these are your only options , unless you want to be a burden on society.

>>71214356
nah just killing myself desu

>>71214416
rest in rip faggot

>>71213694
I know I'm late but I'm sorry, anon. It sounds like things are rough
You can make it through this

Literally noone is giving any feedback on clyps ITT. What the fuck is happening?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_-PjWts3nI

>Pmf - chck - pmf - pmf - chck
>trtrtrtrt - trt - trt - trtrtrtrtrtrt
>bom - bombom - bo-
>brrrrroooom - () - () - () - ()
>() - hey - () - hey - () - hey - () - hey
>cringy rap condensed in a third semiquaver because dope rhtyhm bro
>middle-eastern sounding lead synth

>>71215763
not very good 3/10

>>71208065
got me there, totally sounded like you were gonna do a different genre. sounds like a kid is making it, course thats not necessarily bad. sounds fun. maybe work on the drum programming a bit. theres a few notes it hits where im like "fuck this seems like it should be a different note" but its not too bad, just keep tweakin things as you work on it.

>>71208299
kidnap him

>>71208453
peter pan here, youre getting sued

to be honest though it sounds a bit uninspired. intro is way too long as well. it sounds like it should cut to somethin totally different sounding right when it ends, that might make it good.

>>71208596
what the fuck is a swedish yelofish
i like it tho i was expecting something terrible but nope, reminds me of agalloch the white or something.

>>71210371
fuck off and take your shitty meme with you

>>71211712
i like it. part at 45 seems like it doesnt need to be there, or at least should be changed quite a bit. but when the melody first comes in at 5 sec, damn, until like 12 sec, proly my fav thing in this post. at 10 tho when it repeats, it really feelslike it should resolve to something a bit somber, but dats up to you. you and >>71208065 should get together, your shit matches real nice.

I play a sort of a maniac instrument and I find its higher notes (C6 - G6) are tiring to the ear.

Example: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UmAmIQ8gt6 (it's not "terrible" sound but you will see that it is indeed tiring)

How do I equalize (or do anything to) these sounds to soften them so that they can be pleasant to the ear for a prolonged period of time? Is it even possible?

I tried equalizing down the 1K - 2K range but it just killed the high notes. I just want them to be mellow, not feeble.

Also I heard higher frequencies are bad for your hearing, compared to lower frequencies. Is it true? Man I don't want to damage people's hearing. But lower notes sound too muddy.

>>71216100
4 to 8 k are the harsh frequencies. De-essing is the process to get rid of these in vocals and anything high.

So de-ess, or just eq dip around there, experiment, and or use a compressor.

Low bass is bad for your hearing too

>>71216093
>got me there, totally sounded like you were gonna do a different genre. sounds like a kid is making it, course thats not necessarily bad. sounds fun. maybe work on the drum programming a bit. theres a few notes it hits where im like "fuck this seems like it should be a different note" but its not too bad, just keep tweakin things as you work on it.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll work on the drums after I finish everything else, I know they're so-so.

>sounds like a kid is making it

I'm trying but can't understand how did you get to that conclusion lol.

>should be a different note

Interesting, where exactly did you feel that way?

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>>71216156
Thanks.

The notes themselves are in the 1K - 1.6K range, but do you think they contain 4 - 8K frequencies?

>Low bass is bad for your hearing too
But I read somewhere that lower frequencies gently travel throughout that snail shell-shaped thingy in your ear, while higher frequencies only keep bugging the neurons at the beginning of the thingy, so high notes tend to wear them out more.

Pic related.

>>71216199
Yes because 1-1.6 k doesn't sound that harsh, in fact 2 K is often boosted a little in pop / rock songs for clarity

>>71216176
>I'm trying but can't understand how did you get to that conclusion lol.
sounds very carefree, like the song that plays in your hometown in a game.

i thought there were more but i cant hear it this time lol so maybe it was just me

1:03 the pad, 1:56/7, actually the part that starts there sounds like its straight out of a pop song so im not too fond of it. thing at 17 seconds sounds like a pop track too. 1:28/9 sounds like the song is endingso i dunno about that.

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>>71216223
>>71216199
You may just have it too loud or are playing in this range too much and have ear fatigue

>>71216223
okay ill try thanks

>>71216253
>playing in this range too much and have ear fatigue
Could be. You're selectively tiring out the neurons that detect those freqs. Up to how many seconds do you think is acceptable in one range?

>>71199452
you are a godsend senpai

>>71216245
Thanks, I like those detailed feedbacks.

Yeah, I get it now, it sounded carefree to me too, I just hope it's not (too) generic and I'm trying to work on that. I guess it's somewhat of a mix of multiple genres because I have no idea what this would be, but I'm sure of one thing - I don't listen to this kind of music at all. Maybe it can be explained that I made this straight after remaking Redbone by Childish Gambino so I was in that funk/soul mood (redbone is still the project file name), but I'm not sure if this would be one of those genres.

At first I thought you said it sounded like a child made it because of a few cringy bass parts that I will rewrite lol.

Some of the timestamps you mentioned are done on the purpose, but I'll think about the others.

But fuck me man, I've been doing prod for like 2+ years and this will actually be the first track I'll really finish. Kill me. I have no music direction at all, the other thing I'm doing is some Eric Whitacre-like classical piece.

>>71208065
If you're going for a muzak wallpaper sound, well done. The arrangment is so pleasant but the instruments sound so cheesy and fake, lus everything is so 'midi' as in I bet every note is snapped to a gridline. This makes it sound robotic and bad to humans. If you're in ableton you can use the groove pool to loosen up the timings for each channel and use some organic instruments with kontakt. But if you're going for exactly how that sounds then no need to change anything (to me its disgusting and unlistenable, I wouldn't be caught dead listening to it, but different strokes)

>>71208065
I really like this, you got a good sound going.

>>71216411
personally i think the carefree childlike thing you got goin is great. the synths are a bit generic, you could work on that a bit maybe. sounds like a super super light version of boc to me. and not in the gay stupid tycho way, capturing the emotional aspects and not fixating on their sound. looking forward to hearing it when its done! making things you dont usually make can turn out great because you dont come in with a bunch of biases. i know the feeling though, ive finished like 4 tracks total in my 2+ years and theyre all shit

>>71216485
>>71216539
>>71216587
Thanks guys! Yeah, after I finish the composition and arrangement I'm going into instrument tweaking and drum programming, a few people already said it sounds fake and I kinda feel that way too.

All the synths are done in Diva btw, and the strings are from Session Strings Pro, but I guess I'm not that good at sound design, it has always been a problem for me.

ive been making some music in fl studio for a year now and want to get a little bit into analog stuff. as a cheap thing to see how i like it i bought a TE po-12. now comes the complete idiot question: what do i use to record it the best? just plugging it into my pc and recording with audacity sounds kinda bad, is that wrong? please no hate

>>71216719
i love diva, super fun. ive got the same problem tho, always just do composing. watch lots of youtube tutorials and dont get too caught up with fancy stuff with effects, focus on the basics before dropping em on.

>>71216766
i bought a korg volca keys for the same reason recently! buy an audio interface if youre serious. otherwise just plug it into audacity. heck i mic mine using headphones as speakers.

make sure to get it working playing midi if you can, cause i actually had a synth a while back and never really got into it cause it didnt have midi in. suddenly with the volca keys where I dont have to learn how to play keyboard, im in love with it and getting my wallet ready to buy a bunch more synths

>>71216719
There are tens of thousands of diva presets online, don't let an aversion to presets hold you back.

>>71216841
>make sure to get it working playing midi if you can
what do you mean by this? i dont have a midi keyboard. really dont know much about this stuff yet.

>>71217211
playing midi information from your computer, not the other way around. unless you wanna buy a keyboard, then go ahead, you can find em really cheap at second hand stores or on craigslist. unfortunately i dont think the te po-12 does so that kind of sucks, will make it hard to use in tracks unless you build the track around it. you could set the bpm to match tho, would make it easier.

>>71213195
>not really sure how people can be homeless in the facebook era...don't people have couches they can crash on and people they can hit up?
he said on one of the biggest hubs of friendless introverts on the internet

>tfw feel bad for pirating diva since its so good

bamb

>>71216393
<3

>>71216766
get a cheap usb audio interface, like a scarlett solo.
in fact just get that one. a lot of other interfaces in that price range are really bad.

>>71217301
the korg volca can be used with the pc as midi?

https://clyp.it/zq5kmaun

I tried to get better at mixing and mastering with this one, still have a long way to go

how should i make my vocals sound passable until i properly learn mixing?

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plugins and techniques to get that avalanches sound?

>>71221349
slap an OTT on them

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doing some sampling this morning how's this so far?
https://clyp.it/agrblhrw

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>>71217968
>feel bad
haha why?

Question, does yours ever give you issues with stuck MIDI keys? If I'm playing back some MIDI I recorded real-time and stop it midway through, 9 out of 10 times it'll obnoxiously get a stuck key and I'll have to freeze then unfreeze the track...

>>71194258
how do I make a deathstep snare (distorted snare that sounds like phtueng)

I'm trying to develop a unique sound and style, any feedback where to take this?

https://clyp.it/dlwwvga2

>>71222846

>Rev 1593

Might be related to that - this is a 2013 version and beta versions around that time had trouble with hanging notes that were caused by changes to the MID-learn implementation.

Fix would be to install a newer version.

>>71221535
sampling

>>71222995
>where to take this
I think this is really good as is just keep doing whatever you're doing.

>>71220146
you got that sound. Not something that I like, but you definitely got that sound

>>71223536
I must've pulled that photo from online, my copy says 1331. Updating not an option since it's cracked. Thanks for the information tho I'm gonna read up on this see if a jbridge or something could help

>>71222862
The "current value" type ringy snares? You want Piccolo snares. Set the sample start on them a bit ahead to isolate the ringy tails. Then, 'graft' them onto your main edm type snare. If you used midi to quantize your drum single hits, then delay the thing about 2500 samples or around in that ballpark- and you can turn any snare into a 'ringy' snare.

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>>71222862
virtual riot and many others make their snares on pic related.

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extremely low effort rap beat

https://clyp.it/f1tndald

feel free to take a shit all over it if you want

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Does this bump? What did I do right/wrong? Is this corny?
https://clyp.it/nwvfbcq1

>>71226450
I like it. It sounds satisfying

>>71215917
You do it then

>>71227815

Is that a vocaroo?

>>71220146
I feel like this could be mixed better, with hi hats that are more aggressively hi passed and quieter synths, as i feel they're sort of muddying up ur stuff

>>71222995
I'd work more on the mixing desu. I have no idea on what I would change to get a better mix, but my initial thought is that a lot of stuff could be brighter, but it's cool stuff

>>71226450
that piano has gotta go, and those 808s should fucking SLAP, then u'd have something neato

>>71227815
this reminds me of something i'd hear in a late 80's mid 90's hip hop/rave movie soundtrack. imo that flute melody thing that plays at the beginning should come in later, because it sounds too bad to start ur song off with

>>71228072
I mean vocaloid fuck

>>71228112
>that flute melody thing that plays at the beginning should come in later, because it sounds too bad to start ur song off with
Does the melody itself sound bad, or does it just sound bad to start the song with? Or both? Thanks for the feedback btw

>>71228072
>>71228113
No, it's a sample. Does it sound robotic? Ina good/bad way?

Guys I've been doing this for a while now. I think I've come a long way.

https://clyp.it/mowfbhms

>>71229164
your art therapy mental rehabilitation is going well i see. you really have come a long way since the car crash, im so proud of u

can you retards just pirate omnisphere and just use presets only for a few years while you get basic composition down so i don't have to be subjected to this aural torture, thanks

anyone know a good 808 method for ableton

>>71229250
Thanks man. It's been rough on my family, but I think I'll be able to bring in a lot of money with my music soon.

>>71229332
>pirate omnisphere
lol nice one. Like where lmao

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>>71222704
nothing?

>>71230536
It's really good, I just wasn't sure how to criticise it. Really nice textures and shit idk. Which bits were samples and what was original instrumentation? Where can I hear more of your shit? (or is that not allowed on /prod/?0

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>>71230437

R2R released v2 ages ago, Pro Audio Torrents has had it for 88 weeks so surely rutracker has had it for the same time too?

Any advice? I'm going for some acid stuff
https://clyp.it/n4aioeol

>>71230624
the track's 100% samples right now. Adding in a kontakt bass I'll post once It's done.

>>71230744
I've wanted Omnisphere for a fuckin while dude I downloaded multiple versions and none worked. Upon first glance rutracker has a bunch of 60gb downloads of patches and lots of 1.5 stuff. Not super reliable. If you still have the .torrent link I'd massively appreciate it.

>>71231146
How do you dig for samples? I'm jelly you found those big synth samples with no percussion, I always find it a pain trying to find that sort of stuff

>>71231515
edigging 101:
>have favorite niggerman beat
>find who the producer sampled (they have amazing taste from their 70s/80s childhoods)
>find more obscure works of the original sample
>search for their full albums on YT
>get stuck in a perpetual barrage of amazing music from the recommended tabs
>begin a playlist
>win

added some edits I can already hear I need to mix the bass better
https://clyp.it/rh3fr3dm

https://clyp.it/sob5e5p4
How's this? Mostly just rhythm section for now...

https://clyp.it/j1huph2q
Can I get feedback? Preferably what to add and what to take out, etc. Thanks!!!

>>71229332
presets aren't fun though. knob twisting and effecting and editing until you get something that sounds like an omnisphere preset is fun

>>71224704
Here is this what I've tried. Got some snare from a sample pack and opened up massive. In massive I made a saw and turned on comb the filter. I have routed massive with effects and put some flanger and ring effects. I equalized them.
>>71226363
I'll try that, but nah... Demonoid is dead, so no Fozzyd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baIT7QT2GMs
relationship goals

>>71233257
very cool

>>71233642
turn up ur kicks and snares senpai, and add some reverb on that distorted lead, and turn it up a bit. very cool stuff otherwise.

>>71231146
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5144160

>>71234525
oh and by the way, that's not 60gb of patches, omnisphere 2 IS 60gb. and every byte is worth it. spent hours trying to do stuff in synths that can be done in seconds in omnisphere

>>71234525
>>71234543
>64+ gb
>takes 9 years to DL
>faulty crack fucks up your software
oh yeh worth it af

>>71234094
>until you get something that sounds like an omnisphere preset is fun
you mean never

>If I play around with sounds I might get lucky!

You are fucking pathetic and don't deserve nice software

Omnisphere 2 is based as fuck and worth downloading. It can be easily found on TPB or Rutracker.

>>71234640
>>71234657
the journey is the fun part

also, this is my last response to you because I'm going to sleep.

trying to get into this stuff

what should i improve?
https://clyp.it/5dwtxmwr

>>71234783
QT

>>71234783
i think i would make it more poppy. try using some reverse reverb transitions, 909 style open hats, build ups. maybe build the structure more like an edm song. a larger, cheesy kick. i think the melodic elements are great and catchy but if you really spiced it up with the sample selection, it would step it up to the next level.

>>71235008
desu it sounds like he just got into DAWs

>>71235008
thanks for the tips, i will look into these

>>71234907
uhh thanks?

>>71234637
>9 years to dl
are you in africa? took me a week on shitty 1.5mb/s
russians seed fast
how would a faulty crack 'fuck up' your software? it's not like you bought it

>>71234683
ignore that guy, hes a retard. experimentation is the only way to make anything new / innovative. people that believe in 'having the sound in your head first' are schizos that believe in jesus

>>71234783
sound design, sound design, sound design

>>71235034
the arrangements better than 90% of the thread that's been 'not just a hobby' producing for 5+ years

>>71235165
can you point me towards a list/pack of most popular vsts?
ty anon

>>71235296
you don't need a list of 100000 vsts. start with 2 or 3 and find niches they are good for. presumably you're talking about soft synths - i recommend serum and maybe diva. that will give you a good contrast of how different ways the same information is structured will effect what results you get. i used just absynth for literally years. my top 3 brands for 'classic' synths: u-he, native instruments, arturia

>>71235343
'thanks, much appreciated

>>71235348
oh, and don't be afraid to use presets. modifying and reverse engineering presets is a great way to learn. i found 'syntorial' quite grueling but it can be helpful if you don't know anything about subtractive synthesis (which is the most common)

to spare writing an essay, any drummers here experienced with e-kits and superior drummer?

>>71234637
>faulty crack fucks up your software
is this what people who dont pirate stuff think happens?

Is anybody here bothered by the complexity of their songs/pieces?

I come from classical background and honestly, I always want and try to compose something more than a 2-3-4 chorder (at least on the Beatles level for example).

Currently I have a song that is just fun and the arrangement keeps the interest of a listener, but I didn't even realize how simple it is until I analysed it. Chorus has 3 chords, and it doesn't modulate, but borrows some notes from parallel scale. Also a few seventh chords here and there.

It doesn't make me feel good and now I'm trying to reharmonize it and recompose some parts, but it would ultimately lead to a completely different piece.

On the other hand, I'm constantly amazed by how simple many of the popular songs of today are and I always tell myself I'll try to make something simple but interesting.

But man, this can even be a good song, but it is not that original at all at this stage...

What are your thoughts about this?

>>71235856
>Is anybody here bothered by the complexity of their songs/pieces?
i think most of us are on the other end of the spectrum making overly simplistic music

>>71235856
Don't worry about it, there are great songs written on only 1 chord.

>>71235856
>simple many of the popular songs of today are

that's the thing though, making music with the intention of mass appeal is a skill in itself. chart pop hits may sound simple but you can bet the composition was a lengthy and complex process

https://clyp.it/3y4sdho3 ^_^

>>71235856
brevity's wit.

>>71235856
Originality is something you should do for yourself, not others.

Because original and having a pop sensibility combines the difficulty of the former with the difficulty of the second.

Do some Beatles shit. Add a couple extra beats here and there.

My favorite method is to take a regular chord progression and just play one "wrong" chord or weird one and replace one of the "right" ones and you get interesting results.

>>71236063
>chart pop hits may sound simple but you can bet the composition was a lengthy and complex process
tell that to deadmau5, he's had at least 4, and if he really wanted to he could probably have more, or so he claims

>>71237281
>chart pop hits may sound simple but you can bet the composition was a lengthy and complex process
tell that to deadmau5, he's had at least 4,and he rarely spends more than a few days on a track, especially his hits, like ghosts n stuff he claimed to make one night at a hotel, and if he really wanted to he could probably have more hits, or so he claims

maybe some people just got it

>>71195596
comping

Whats a good DAW if I want to record music like the Beach Boys but also want to make sweet hip hop tracks? Also what is a good starter mic?

>>71238387
FL Studio should do the trick, but I can also recommend Cubase, or Ableton Live

>>71238387
I remember reading that Pro Tools was one of the better DAWs for recording music and it's pretty much an industry standard. If you're just starting out, I'd suggest downloading one-month trial versions of multiple DAWs and see what you like best.

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So for those producers with more mileage than me. I need one do-it-all mic, particularly for vocals and guitar. I know it's best to have separate microphones for separate applications, but for now I can only have one. What would you get?

I was looking into the SM57 or SM58. SM7b looks ideal but at that price I might just get a 57 and a 58.

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>>71194258
Anyone know what could be causing this?
I'm playing a track from some old song ripped from a cassette. Is it just how the song was recorded/ripped? There's virtually no sound from 10k-15k

>>71239304
I'm pretty sure that's just how cassettes are, the frequencies being cut off above 15k or so, contribute to the 'analog warmth' sound

>>71239216
you should get a condenser instead of a dynamic for vocals and guitar, especially if you're talking about acoustic guitar

>>71210505

Best bang for your buck, multiple effect chains, but you have to enjoy "menu diving". Editing sounds is not easy:
Zoom MS-70CDR

Cheapest, less complicated, good if you just want something to sweeten up the sound:
40$ Nux ModCore

Cheap, >I heard you like echo:
Behringer Echo Machine EM600

Reverbs-
Digitech Polara
TC Electronic Hall of Fame/variants

>>71240046
>>71210505
if you want a cheap yet menu dive-y zoom multi-effects pedal that's a good value, i'd recommend the g1on. let's you chain up to five effects in any order and it's got a looper

>>71219808

All volcas have midi in, not only can you do notes but automation if the volca recieves midi for that parameter.

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>>71228112
https://clyp.it/oiuidzaw
fixed it. it sounds more /trap/ now

what about this

https://clyp.it/pfwynko5

>>71241000
Weird, but not bad.

>>71239216
What kind of guitar? Electric or acoustic?

If acoustic, then definitely for vocals and guitar you'd want a large diaphragm condenser, like an AKG C214. Whatever mic you get, see if you can find a used one on eBay. You can save a lot if you're patient. I got a 1600$ Neumann TLM193 for 600$ on eBay.

If electric, the SM7b might be a good choice. It's a good vocal mic, and it's dynamic so it's good for recording guitar amps.

>but at that price I might just get a 57 and a 58.
The 57 and 58 are very similar mics. The difference is not really enough to warrant getting both just so that you can use one on guitar and one on vocals.

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https://clyp.it/nweeiies

I suck at producing and I suck even more at mixing and mastering and have no idea what I'm doing... My project sounds like shit but everything I do makes everything even more shit. Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing and I'm just fucking everything up in FL Studio...

...But it was fun to sample those old records.

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>>71235685
>is this what people who dont pirate stuff think happens?
no, I just read the comments like a sensible human being

>>71197211
I typically high pass pads even higher, 600-900. Then I'll duplicate the bass notes of the pad onto a bass synth, and low pass that to fill in the gap... imo give you a little more control and nets a cleaner low end, especially if the pads are 4+ note chords

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pic is bait but gr8 album we never discuss


hey /prod/!! need you with this, just finished the "recording session" (lol press play) of mpc and other stuff. i need suggestion for the last adjustaments and mixing with this. please give an ear that my are f**** burnt

wil be back to recs myself, just the time to rest a moment

https://clyp.it/sofymza5

>spend most of my time yesterday making a waveish sound
>go to sleep happy with what i finished
>listen to it today
what a surprise its shit

>>71242685
You have no reason to feel shit. Production is a craft that takes a long ass time to master. With that said, your clyp is actually fuckin good, even if it's basic sampling it sounds really good!

>>71243532
Great track. I see what you're trying to do with the drum sloppiness (Dilla swing, w/e), but I feel like the same sloppiness repeats too often, and I'm not sure if those types of drums fit that, those drums are more suited for a steady 70's groove.

>>71243791
That happens.

What do I need if I just want to record my electric guitar and voice separately? What if I got no amp?

>>71244068
You can use a line in input (or an audio interface) and use vsts like amplitube or guitar rig

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Ok I think I need a break from making absolute bullshit. What's the best cheapish way to record guitar. Any specific interface?

I just want to make something different for a while because I'm tired of making shit that I would never listen to.
https://clyp.it/jbpwmmof

>>71244068
Just get an interface.

>>71244293
>>71244131
What about voice? Whats a good mic?

Poor as fuck cant afford software im using trials of DAWs too worried about torrenting being as i dont want to get any virus's because my laptop is the only thing i have and trying to make music is only thing i care to do but too shit at it and pointless because i dont own any type of vsts or daws
eh

>>71244576
Shure hands down.

>>71244731
Pirate, you're not gonna get viruses. Gotta work hard if you wanna reap the rewards

>>71244731
Torrent is going to be safe. Music software is so expensive pretty much everyone pirates it.

>>71244731
>torrenting
>not ddla
plebs

>>71245052
Yup. Even Kanye West once uploaded a screenshot of his pc and a serum torrent tab was visible

>>71245080
*ddls

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Does anyone know how to use ableton to change the key intervals so I can fuck around with microtonality?

>>71244731
All I'm seeing is lots of excuses, which means you won't amount to shit :(

>>71245084
Wasn't Kanye's laptop

>>71245114
http://subaqueousmusic.com/sof/

i literally just wrote 30 lines of fucking recs even ending with "i love reccing". man for real. and this shit just deleted the whole post for no actual reason. fuck ur recs

>>71245084
That's hilarious if true

On the topic I don't think developers even care that much, they make all their money through selling bulk licenses to studios and schools etc.

Recorded a Reatards song in one sitting lads

https://clyp.it/wutbxocf

Original song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgusG2c-TOc

>>71245168
thanks anon, looks like I have my day planned

Should each /prod/ thread have a challenge? Like "make a winter-themed song" or something like that to drive more people to make shit?

>>71245593
Sounds good.

>>71244175
any audio interface with a line input
amplitube or guitar rig or whatever amp sim you like

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>>71245593
>make a winter-themed song
ok
https://clyp.it/e1ahe42c

>>71245168
Is there a way to get more than 12 tones?

>>71246678
Don't think so, most commercial DAWs don't have microtonal interpretation unfortunately so you have to make your own patent which usually is lacking.

>>71246884
I think there is probably a way with a chain metrushka of some sort. It would probably require some programming acumen. The thing is you can deactivate the "scale" module within a certain range which suggests there is probably a way and I'm just too dumb to figure it out.

>>71240480
That 808 melody sounds dumb as fuck. Why so many glides, do you not understand tension and release? As for the mixing, it's pretty good, but the song is pretty generic(good for trap lmao)

>>71243791
making shit is essential my man
it's practice