/classical/

richard

>retards forget to bump the thread AGAIN
wtf i didn't spend months trying to revive /classical/ just so you guys can kill it

>>71061028
you fucked up by not putting /classical/ in the subject field, dumbass

>>71060811
>manlet crossdresser neckbeard who is, lol, a crazy christian nationalist anti-semite

Being Wagner must have been pathetic.

>>71061074
oh yeah, nvm im dumb

btw post your favorite Schoenberg guys

>>71061087
I agree, being the greatest composer alive at the time must have sucked.

>>71061115
we're talking about wagner, not brahms

>>71061199
Brahms is just a rehash. Wagner pushed music forward.

Any young hip soloists/conductors i should be on the look out for?

>>71061115
>being the greatest composer alive at the time
[citation needed]

>>71061243
>opera
>pushed music forward

heh

>>71062225
They're called music dramas.

The only good operas are Italian operas.

>>71062811
lol

>>71061087
>crazy christian nationalist anti-semite
nothing wrong with that

>>71062295
no they're called Gesamtkunstwerk

>>71062811
Untrue but understandable opinion

favorite Wagner is probably the final act of Gotterdammerung.

>>71057878
no, no sonatas yet. i'm sure Staier will do a set eventually and i'm sure it'll be quite good, like just about everything he records.

he did do a very good diabelli variations, however.

there are some HIP Chopin recordings out there, but i haven't found any that i particularly liked. i listened to Olejniczak for instance, it's apart of that big 30CD set where it's all HIP. you can find it pippo9's blog.

i found it to be kinda boring. inoffensive, but not really interesting.

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Holy shit, this may be my favorite recording of all time

>>71064185
Tony Duggan really likes that one

never heard it myself, pretty satisfied with my Martinon

>>71064280
It's in the second mega link, in case you wanna listen. I mean Horenstein is the classic but this one not only beats it in sound quality but the performance is something to behold. I like how most conductors are really scared of this symphony - most go through the cycle before recording this one - and I can see why; they most usually get overpowered by the symphony.

I feel it takes a really physically powerful man not to fall off from the podium before the first movement ends. However, Bychkov seems to be the one with the strength to dominate such a mountain of a symphony, and with such grace.

>>71064529
sure, i'll give it a listen soon enough. i like Horenstein's too, but i never quite liked the recording quality at all. the founder of Unicorn records lost the mastertape forever ago, and the digital transfers of it were made from second hand sources. that isn't to mention that the recording venue was less than optimal, Fairfield Hall wasn't able to fit all the forces required, so they chopped off the front row and the orchestra spilled over into the left and behind. made for a very strange balance.

>I like how most conductors are really scared of this symphony
while the 3rd is intimidating, from the Mahler conductors that i've heard from, there seems to be a consensus that the 6th and Das Lied are the hardest to conduct. especially the rhythm in Das Lied where you have 4-against-3-against-2, 6-against-5-against-4, or 9-against-six-against-2. Mahler himself said that he had no idea how to conduct it and wrote to Mengelberg saying so, heavily implying that he wanted the latter to conduct it instead.

>>71061243
Brahms was cutting edge son. His cello sonata changed the game, just one example.

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>>71062811
that's a weird way to spell russian

>>71064769
The third might not be the most intellectually challenging of the cycle, but it's probably the one that needs a mountain man to stand its tension.

>Mahler himself said that he had no idea how to conduct it and wrote to Mengelberg saying so, heavily implying that he wanted the latter to conduct it instead.
Mahler had a bad beat if I remember correctly

>>71061087
Wagner was about average height for the time, and antisemitism was normal for that time and region. Everyone hated jews all throughout time, its only after the holocaust that antisemitism become unfashionable.
Wagner was neither crazy nor a crossdresser, and nationalism was common in all countries and people, certainly not out of place for the time.

Wagner was also a master composer, orchestrator and visionary opera designer, hugely influential, and in many peoples eyes the high point of tonal music, so high that the early 20th century composers decided tonal music was over after Wagner.

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Great album

>>71060811
>Post your favorite Wagner.
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>>71065723
I don't think Wagner has a work called Open Curly Bracket Closed Curly Bracket

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>>71065778
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>71065789
faggot

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>>71061087
>>71061199
>>71061765
>create the bedrock for the art of film scoring
>Make a cycle of operas which was essentially the star wars of its era, with musical motifs shared across the different stories to unify them
>first major composer to establish that you can go dissonant and stay dissonant, paving the way for jazz, metal, and atonal music

>>71066008
well film music, star wars and metal suck tbf

>>71066032
Well, Wagner made a decent living during the second half of his career, most of the populace seemed to like his operas, he seemed satisfied with his work, and he triggered Clara Schumann. Isn't that the most any composer can hope for?

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>>71066008
Literally none of what you've listed is good lmfoa
Wagnerianfags on suicide watch smfh

>>71066097
faggot

>>71066032
please dont bully Prokofiev

>>71066190
I think Lt Kije is the only film whose score is more famous than the film itself

>>71063497
>no they're called Gesamtkunstwerk

Now, my German isn't great, but shouldn't that be Gesamtkunstwerke?

>>71064185
Höller shit!

ok i'm back to classical, this time i want to get into romanticism, where should i start?
rec composers, pieces and recordings pls

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ok i'm back to classical, this time i want to get into romanticism, where should i start?
rec composers, pieces and recordings pls

pic unrelated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JQm5aSjX6g

I NEED THE FULL EDITION OF THIS BRANDENBURG CONCERTOS RECORDING

I can't find one to top it anywhere else on the internet, and it is missing the second movement!

>>71067643
It is missing the majority of it, the work is much longer than that. It's also a terrible shitty performance, if you want a similar style try Benjamin Britten's version, should be more easily found than that crap.

>>71057027
>You're telling me this is high test?
absolutely, such generosity , laconism, such clarity, it's the epitome of God the father.
Or perhaps you believe naive bourgeois dreams about powerful figures have anything to do with the ultimate man? Those were the true aristocrats, men of power who understood heavenly virtue, unlike that sickly neurotic and his herd of followers. He was 'romantic' for a reason, for he sought something that wasn't, couldn't be a part of him anymore so he tried to imagine it, unfortunately his imagination consisted of bourgeois aspirations entirely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxzY3tFTz9k

Gustav Leonhardt playing the harpsichord solo from Brandenburg Concerto, No. 5 in the 1968 film Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach, where he played the part of JS Bach, both musically and dramatically.

>>71068207
What a talented man.

>>71067288
romanticism sucks
but if you insist, Schumann (Dichterliebe, Symphony no. 2); Anton Bruckener; Chopin; Scriabin (avoid other russian composers, not enough refined)

The ending of Rheingold is probably my favourite, from Doner --> the conclusion
>>71065373
Yeah Rore is great. Thank you Venice.

>>71067288
Schubert's Winterreise and piano trios.

What are some good "heavy sounding" composers?

Names I have from previous thread (don't know if legit or not): Bruckner, Stravinsky, Mahler, J.S Bach, Ives, Bartok, Cowell, Carter, Schoenberg quartets, Bartók, Ligeti, Rachmaninoff, Telemann, Liszt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGb_CIt7DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLkg-duiFsE

I'm not the same guy, btw. Just curious.

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>>71068940
>avoid other russian composers, not enough refined
Mussorgsky single-handedly started proto-impressionism and foreshadowed modernism

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSoVLQ3SBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLy31-Z7E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w433wbM14Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDU4qwaI80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESzlizAafE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jem-LgKgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9MU1T6uDXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s22fNJdICQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an77qFp0Y9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BSfYz4_Gbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xweAry37KUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOVF-33A9HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

>>71070298
that suite in G min sounds great, I must admit

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>>71069685
Add Wagner to that list senpai


Welcome to the High test club

>>71068035
You're a faggot kek

>>71069685
Prokofiev dude. Try listening to all the ocrestral parts from the symphony for 3 oranges or whatever it's called. Real heavy stuff.

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>>71070863
Have nothing to say: "ooga booga fagit".

>>71066638
as a plural, yes

>>71068940
>romanticism sucks
>posts Bruckner

Did you fall for CLT's memes?

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>>71068207
>tfw Leonhardt is dead

>>71061087
Radical politics and eccentric behavior are hardly unusual in the classical music world.

is there a more powerful composer than dvorak

>>71067288
Schumann's Carnaval, Chopin's Preludes and Etudes, and basically any lieder.

>>71061243
>Brahms is just a rehash.
fuck up on and out of here anon-KUN brahms is the greatest of all time you don't need to "push music forward" or whatever bullshit to be the best,

How's Nodame Cantabile's live version vs the anime version?

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>>71073591
I like the manga version better

>>71073009
wagner

>>71061243
>Brahms is just a rehash. Wagner pushed music forward.
Schoenberg's lectures and essays including "Brahms the Progressive" fresh from reddit. http://www.mediafire.com/file/d31sr9dfutxnll3/%28schoenberg%2C+1950%29+style+and+idea.pdf

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>>71060811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pTaH8USQH4

I don't appreciate the amount of anime I've seen in /classical/ as of late. I expect reform.

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>>71062811
only because monteverdi, verdi, and puccini are outstanding

>>71073733
What are the differences betweens the adaptations and manga?
IIRC, the adaptations don't include the childhood side-stories (Chiaki with Viera, Nodame being a shitty child).

>>71074141
Better voice acting

i like prokofiev

Did SDF kill himself?

>>71074116
No, only monteverdi.
Verdi and Puccini make me puke.

>>71075223
hopefully

>>71069685
Buxtehude, Schutz.

>>71067869
yes, thank you

why do avant-teens jerk off over obscure Bach performances so much?

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Listened to this about 3 times, i dont see whats so hype about Bartok

>>71076878
Who are you favorite composers?

>>71076907
ockeghem, morales, villa lobos, xenakis,
schoenberg, messiaen, palestrina, liszt

ive only started getting serious into classical about a year and a half ago so i dunno if im still new

>>71076870
because they have cool covers

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Which Mahler symphony is the best

>>71077279
>Asks generic question
>Snoop Dogg
how is your first time listening to classical?

Petzold

>>71077389
pic related was for the juice, i've already listened to his first and ninth

>>71077412
Again, how's your first time listening to classical?

Im genius think music all the time like next beethoven level shit no formal training but my improvs tho real talent probs next liszt too n shit if i take lessons like should i join a conservatory or will that throttle my latent polyphony im in my mid 20s will train real hard neet word k

>>71077424
again, i've listened to Mahler and other classical Composers before so i would see that you resign from your fruitless attemp at belittlements

Any recommended stores for LPs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=196HJ7IFpUs

I want to compete with this guy.

>>71074116
>Puccini
>outstanding
>underrating Rossini and Mozzart

Is it possible for a performer to have a superior interpretation of a composer's work than the composer himself?

For example, are the Shostakovich recordings of him playing his piano concertos the definitive interpretation?

>>71073591
The live action version is easily the best

>>71074084
I call them faggots at every opportunity

>>71075223
>>71075317
He was the only good thing about this general and ergo the only good thing about this board

>>71077429
trade school dot com

A while ago I found this classical song as something to listen to as I 'do necromancer things' in a game. It wasn't too dark and from what I could tell it was mostly played on an organ. Could someone recommend anything like that might fit that description?

>>71076878
i didn't warm to the Concerto for Orchestra at first either.

have you tried his Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta?

here's a performance of the piece, directed by Mravinsky
https://mega.nz/#!eUNGVYZJ!j3HDlHYka4Ak5Pl9PrcXBhWs-YgFHSmpqgH2TzgWOPE

>>71077736
Certainly. I like Markevitch and Boulez more in the Rite than Stravinsky, and I prefer Kapell to Prokofiev in his 3rd concerto. Can't speak for the Shosty though since I don't really listen to him.

>>71078021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdiHaWHJNc8

>>71077721
mozzart was somalian dude

>>71078403
Mozart was from Egypt with all the other kangz and regardless his best operas were in Italian.

>>71077736
I'm not a fan of Shostakovich playing his 2nd concerto because I hate how he immediately slows down after the cadenza in the first movement.

>>71078168
if you run into problems, try swapping two voices

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>>71077499
Answer the question, because you still have not shown why anyone is supposed to take your experience (or rather the lack thereof) seriously. Calling you a fucking idiot would be an insult to fucking idiots.

>>71078607
well i'll answer with that i thought his first symphony showed great potential, the opening movement is magnificent but some of the other sections don't work as well especially a weird version of Brother Jacob in the middle of eveything. But i still want to see what else he's done and thought i'd ask. And why would my inexperience with classical music warrant that you don't take my question seriously? Why wouldn't you help me explore classical music, were i to have never listened to it before

>>71077279
My favorite is the eighth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndAZ3VjpO0I
some like this please

>>71077279
My favorites are the 3rd maybe tied with the 5th, then the 4th

I'm writing a piece where the strings start with mutes on, then take them off. How much time should I give them to do this?

>>71079480
4 sec

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>>71079480
>current year
>not being able to mute your instrument with your hand

>>71079611
Please give a serious answer

>>71079506
Really?

>>71079729
i guess

>>71078719
My negus :) The 8th is the best and so few people understand that.

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What are you listening /classical/ ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9mjWQM8f2I

Lehar bump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKwQIsDiTKg

>>71081261

oops

Boccherini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrdeD8LLoCM

>>71081968
This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that.

>>71082020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jum3WLb70Zk

What will be the next big trend in classical music?

>>71077279
5th cocks down

>>71077062
Bretty gud taste

Just give it time, Bartok is the greatest

>>71083169
amen break

daily reminder to keep bumping the thread

>>71083169
complex minimalism

>>71083169
heterosexual classical music

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Schieferdecker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fa7clDo1hs
>>71084669
Nope.

>>71077736
Composers suck at performing their own music, this is a known fact

>>71085204
faggot

>>71085467
But what about [literally anyone pre 17th century]?

>>71085581
Back when composers were talented you mean?

Best Piano/Violin duet pieces? Something like this to start but pls no bully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7dPdRzQmcA

>>71085607
Exactly.

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>>71085467
You what?

>>71083169
neo-renaissance. It as already begun

neo-baroque might also become a thing. A new golden age of fugues, suites and sonatas

>>71085467
You are retarded or extremely ignorant. Or both.

Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLGzPDPw8Jw

>>71087699
Thanks for bumping the thread.

Does anybody have SDFs "remaster" of Otto Kemperer's first Missa Solemnis?

>>71089712
You misspelled Klemperer's name so I'm not going to give it to you

>>71089986
it was a typo you absolute madman

Is there anything like Mahler's 5th?

>>71074084
Anime is for autistic faggots.

>>71090801
Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jWO0B3CpI

Ralph Kirkpatrick's Goldbergs Variations are severely underrated.

>>71085467
That's not true for a good chunk of pre 20th century composers.

>>71085727
Liszt may be necessary in our tradition, but he's not a great composer in the slightest.

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>>71060811
ITT composers that are literally you
>pic related
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor

>>71091608
>but he's not a great composer in the slightest.

I'm mad right now

>>71091477
Is he the same Kirkpatrick as Scarlatti K. numbers?

>>71091653
Yes

>>71091651
Early Liszt is not cool but once he started to get older he became one of the GOATs in my opinion.
Mephisto Waltz No. 1 has one of the most erotic themes in the history of music.
https://youtu.be/KJbg9V2KnD8?t=2m54s

They're not that much the same but let's compare Ravel and Debussy

Stage:
Debussy > Ravel

Orchestral music:
Debussy > Ravel

Chamber music:
Ravel > Debussy

Piano music:
Debussy = Ravel

>>71091759
Piano music:
Debussy = Ravel
No. Just no. Ravel wins this by a mile.

Chamber music:
Ravel > Debussy

I disagree. Debussy's last sonatas for mixed instruments are all masterpieces. See Violin Sonata and Sonata for Flute, Viola, and Harp. Ravel's Violin Sonata is cute but it cannot be compared with Debussy's. For me, one of the most touching bars in the history of music is that at 10:06.
https://youtu.be/6p1HDpf48Tg?t=10m6s
It makes me shiver errytime.

>>71091822
>Ravel wins this by a mile.

Nope Once Debussy composed his Preludes and Etudes it was all over for Ravel's piano supremacy

But from 1899-1909 Ravel was king

>>71091651
No element in his craft implies him being a great composer, and I personally don't like his music, so not even that door can be open for me.
You can like him, but he's not what we would call a great composer. He may be a good one, but that's it.

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>>71091345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huLJ2Q95B7c

>tfw Schubert wrote the 2nd movement of his 20th sonata in 1828

What the fuck? I thought that Schubert was a boring mini-Beethoven only interested in nice tunes. The ending of that climax is truly groundbreaking, it could have been written in 1890 and still be considered modern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y4pIYV6yh0

>>71092278
One of us.

>>71060811
>2016
>listening to classical music
Are you 16-19, maybe in a music class?

>>71092199
Another Schubertian to the fold. Our power grows stronger, soon we will replace Mozart as the most underrated composer

>>71092377
petzold

>>71092377
oh boy it's THIS bait again

>>71092386
the most underrated composer is bach though

>>71092377
Will you ever make a sequel to the "GET IT?" video?

>>71091883
Gaspard is far more clever than anything the boorish Debussy ever wrote, piano or not

Friendly reminder that Debussy was a STINKY!! man, he didn't get that name for nothing

>>71092656
>not recognizing that they were both master of their craft and groundbreaking innovators
>not recognizing that we only link them because they were both French and they both composed in the same years, not for compositional reasons

>>71092656
Debussy is only one letter away from "da bussy"

>>71092656
Nope, Nothing Ravel ever composed can compare to the abstract Piano Studies of 1915, or Jeux for that matter

What has Debussy written that's as magical as the sunrise in Daphnis et Choe?
What about other composers?

>>71092954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsD0FDLOKGA

>>71092966
Is Carnaval of the Animais the biggest meme ever?

>>71092954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDu-lM06Ac

>>71093118
>ride of the valkyries, beethoven's 5th and fur elise, peer gynt's Morning Mood, tchaikovsky sugar plum fairy, mozart's turkish march, prokofiev's pete and wolf and knights dance, khachaturian's saber dance, fucik's entry of the gladiators, bizet's carmen, mendelssohn's wedding march, handel water music Alla Hornpipe
are bigger memes

>>71093118
By meme you mean commonly taught in schools as it is fun accessible and explains things like themes? By meme you mean, "I knew this when I was 8 therefore I am enlightened now and I hate it."

where can i download this work of art?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dirmEYuZog&t=1086s

>>71093323
Nice self-insert.

>>71093289
>fucik's entry of the gladiators
Just fuck my shit up, senpai.

>>71092954
The Faun, His Orchestral Nocturnes, La mer, and Childrens Corner

Also for other composers, Rimsky-Korsakov, Borodin, and Balakirev

>>71093614
what he thought: "I'm writing the most glorious music in honor of the brave gladiators"
what people think: "lmao, where are the clowns"

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>>71067288
Liszt

>>71093757
>Rimsky-Korsakov
funny thing is, Glazunov and the Mighty Handful believed Debussy and impressionists stole their music

>>71060811
Wagner had great moments, but terrible quarter-hours.

>>71093859
Nietzsche called him a microscopic composer, the master of all things tiny

>>71093827
I'm going to politely ask that you please refrain from besmirching the name of the greatest and most pure-hearted virtuoso to have ever lived by attaching an*me crap to it.

Thanks!

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>>71094031
checkmate atheists

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>>71093840
And they stole from Beethoven, Berlioz, Schumann, Liszt and Wagner

>>71093840
>>71094121
And if Balakirev let go of his pride and had formal training he would've been twice the composer as mussorgsky or Borodin

>>71093840
In terms of the orchestra? Yeah, but They took more from Faure, Grieg, Liszt and Chabrier for there piano compositions

>>71094346
>tfw new, extremely hot piano teacher
She's not even hot in an elegant way, she legitimatly look like a porn actress. I honestly can't relax when she's around, and my boner is always enabled by her look, her big slutty tits and her obscene tank tops.

Now, believe it or not, she's the best teacher in my city. What the fuck do I do? I can't concentrate when she's around, but I'm also too autistic to ask her to fucking cover herself. Also I'm pretty sure she's a militant feminist (not in a SJW way, but she loves to appear as a powerful, dominant woman), so mentioning the fact that everytime I see her I get a raging boner seems a sure way to get dumped by her.

What the fuck do I do?

>>71094467
Take antiandrogens.

>>71094467
Study with her frenetic pieces, like I don't know, Beethoven's sonatas, and channel your frustration in those compositions. I'm pretty sure that sexual frustration is crucial if you want to play a beautiful Beethoven's 32th sonata.

Schumann in his ''Advice to Young Musicians'' says

>It has been thought that a perfect musician must be able to see, in his mind's eye, any new, and even complicated, piece of orchestral music as if in full score lying before him! This is indeed the greatest triumph of musical intellect that can be imagined.

Is this one of those things that you can do only if you practice since you were 3? Can an adult possibly learn to be such a good transcriber?
As soon as I've read that I immediatly had the impression that I am currently experiencing music at a lower level than people like Schumann. How much practice and time does it take to reach that level of musical literacy? And do I have to play an instrument to do so?

He also says

>As you grow up, become more intimate with scores (or partitions) than with virtuosi.

Does he literally mean that he can understand music just by looking at scores? To what extent can this be applied? Can trained composers read something as complex as a Mahler symphony and hear EVERYTHING that is happening (or at least imagining it in a correct way)? Can this be trained too?

>>71094467
Perform for her the MOnlit Sonata or perhaps one of Chopin's Nocturnals and all will be answered my friend :)

>>71093897
Nietzsche also copy-catted a lot of his philosophy and worshipped Wagner for quite awhile. It wasn't until he was denied Wagner's boypussy that he got salty and started talking shit

>>71062811
Most Opera's are Italian Operas
Most Operas suck
A few Operas don't suck

Not looking good for Italy you see

>>71094782
Some of the best salty shit talk you'll ever find my dude.

>>71094082
That is a creepy looking alien hommonculus

>>71094782
>The greatest affront between the two occurred in 1877. Nietzsche went to the doctor as he was going blind, commonly considered to be due to masturbation. Wagner went behind Nietzsche’s back to find out about his condition and urged the doctor to tell Nietzsche to restrain himself. When Nietzsche found out, he said that ‘there’s something sick about this man!’ ‘I worshipped him but I was taken in: he betrayed me’. He was intolerably wounded, and he even considered hurting Wagner. This proved to be a catalyst in their already deteriorating friendship. [The cause of Nietzsche’s blindness has often been linked to syphilis which was commonly thought to be the cause of his dementia, though research is now showing that there was a strong chance of mis-diagnosis and Nietzsche’s symptoms were more suggestive of other diagnoses including frontotemporal dementia or a meningioma.]

lmao

did that actually happen? i have a mental image of Wagner walking up to Nieztche and going, "Hey, uh, quit bopping the weasel so much."

>>71094827
Crazies do often talk the best shit. I forgot which composer it was that held a super grudge against Brahms, going so far as to say that Brahms had loaded up a train with explosives whilst he was on it.

>>71094885
lol wagner was totally a moron

>>71095165
Go back to masturbating, Nietzsche

>>71095188
He's right tho

>>71094467
fap right before practicing

>>71094885
>commonly considered to be due to masturbation
lol

>>71069685
Listen to Shostakovich's 11th symphony

>>71095923
if you have insomnia

>>71094723
Reminder that Beethoven composed while deaf, so it's totally possible.

>>71096013
while the musical material can be pretty repetitive - I certainly don't think I could sleep through any of marches/louder portions

>>71094929
I think that was Hans Rott

>>71065047
don't forget he considered himself a buddhist and was a vegetarian.

Making good progress on my slow movement lads. With any luck it'll be done by this time next week.

>>71080692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zbCfP9wGt4
strauss is crazy

>>71094861
>underrating Verdi and Mozart operas
>underrating Wozzeck
>anime girly boys
Shit taste all around

>>71098715
>Verdi
>good
LEL

>>71094346
Debussy's two main influences undoubtedly were Wagner and Mussorgsky, in terms of everything.

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>bog

going through the megas for the first time

not bad honestly. good version choice for as many of these as I know. let's pray for mp3 v0s or higher

>>71098715
mozart is an embarrassment to music itself

fuck off

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>>71098966

>>71098776
Definitely, I hear Mussorgsky's influence all throughout his three periods, from his early piano works to the Preludes

>>71099224
what was this guy's youtube?

>>71099351
Reviewbrah

>>71099707
Thank you.

>>71099266
During his artistic crisis he desperately tried to find a way out of the Wagnerian Germanic paradigm, he studied Mussorgsky exclusively, tried to copy him first, and then derived some of his ideas from him.

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>>71099863
Absolutely patrician

How to get my father into high test music?
Please don't recommend 1h stuff, btw.

>>71098966
Come at me you plebian. I am the fucking pinnacle of man, both body and mind. I attend an Ivy league university, completely payed off by scholarships, with the leftover money used to buy myself a luxury vehicle. My grade point average is perfect point O. After I finish my dual bachelors I will be accepted straight away into the doctorate program. I will have two doctorate degree's by age twenty-five, owe zero debts, and make more money a year than you will in a lifetime. The funny thing is, this is the average /classical/ browser. There are many who far surpass me.

Of course, knowing this, you figure the only way to attack me is the only way you know how, using words of which the meaning escapes you, insult some genre of game no one on this board plays, and using our own image macros to mock yourself.

You forgot your "My face when" by the way, the text suits you perfectly.

Go ahead and reply, doing so only proves my point to such an extent that you might as well just beg to suck my dick and eat my bodily waste, so that maybe an iota of my greatness could pass onto you.

>>71091931
faggot

>>71094861
faggot

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Threadly reminder

Post music

>>71102614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDofgIr3LOY

>>71101776
1710: polyphony started

>>71061603
S-still waiting guys....

>>71061603
>>71103392
Me (:

Post good tenors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZb6a6wr_60

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>>71061603
God tier:
>Giuliano Carmignola
>Gottfried von der Goltz
>Paul Domrecht
>Fabio Biondi
>Federico Guglielmo
>Vittorio Ghielmi
>Gunar Letzbor
Normie tier:
>Giovanni Antonini
>Enrico Onofri
>Fahmi Alqhai
>Reinhard Goebel
>Christopher Hogwood
>Andrew Manze
>Enrico Casazza
Meme tier:
>Jordi Savall
>Christina Pluhar

>>71061603
Hilary Hahn and Alisa Weilerstein for waifus.

>>71103601
fucking christ

>>71103648
Shut the fuck up retard

>>71103601
>Hogwood not in meme tier

>>71103665
hogwood is dead idiot

>>71103669
>

What should come right after a sudden fortissimo change to the parallel minor

>>71103788
A reiteration of the theme but in that parallel minor

>>71103788
pianissimo change to relative major, obviously.

Nah jk, it should be a 6 part mirror fugue in a key 1 semitone up from whatever key you were in

>>71103814
I transitioned to the minor by introducing a new theme, I want to keep the first theme in the major

>>71103825
>pianissimo change to relative major
If I go to a major again too soon I think the dramatic effect will be severely reduced

>6 part mirror fugue
I don't think a fugue would work well in a slow movement

>1 semitone up from whatever key you were in
>Eb minor to E minor
Why though?

Messian is just meh

>>71103788
atonal fugue with a bossa nova bassline

>>71103868
Fast Fourier transform a picture of the universe and then map the two dimensional picture in frequency space onto the real ordered line via the Hilbert curve and then arrange the individual frequency parts into a Fibonacci pattern and use this as the ritornello of your minor key theme

>>71104055
funny

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>>71103937
>>71104055
GIVE ME SERIOUS IDEAS YOU GUYS REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>71104104
modulate to another key and introduce yet another theme

>>71104154
Draw a 5-valent planar graph with 5 vertices and label each vertex with one key of the circle of fifth. Then starting from the key you have right now, use Dijkstra's algorithm to find a closed Hamiltonian path that travels through the circle of fifth according to the arithmetic progression guaranteed by the Tao-Green theorem. Classify all such paths into equivalence classes using link invariants and name your movements according to these equivalence classes.