*deletes history*

>>71022719
Townshend was cleared of all charges. He is no pedophile.

>>71023176
He tried to access it, he was just too much of a stupid grandpa on the internet to succeed

>>71023211
The mental image is fucking hilarious, but you're still wrong.

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>Townshend was placed on the sex offenders register for five years in 2003 after admitting he had used his credit card to access a website bearing the message "click here for child porn" four years earlier.
Jesus Christ, what was he thinking?

>>71023373
He plea bargained on it so he didn't have to go to trial. They actually investigated it further and found that he was just trying to get onto a regular porn site.

>>71023621
>paying for porn
lmao 2bh

what the fuck is it with famous white rock stars and little kids?

>>71024211
What about Chuck Berry?

>>71024222
He only farted on hookers

>>71024222
Wasn't it just getting worker ladies to shit on him?

>>71024211
why was everyone all good with bowie doing it?

>>71024234
>>71024236
>In December 1959, he was arrested under the Mann Act after allegations that he had sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old Apache waitress, Janice Escalante, whom he had transported across state lines to work as a hatcheck girl at his club. After a two-week trial in March 1960, he was convicted, fined $5,000, and sentenced to five years in prison. He appealed the decision, arguing that the judge's comments and attitude were racist and prejudiced the jury against him. The appeal was upheld, and a second trial was heard in May and June 1961, resulting in another conviction and a three-year prison sentence.

>>71024211
Pete is innocent, it's fucks like Jimmy Page that are giving white rock stars a bad name.

>>71024262
What's the age of consent for the Apache nation?

>>71024211
Bowie and Page come to mind.

>>71024262

14 is legal in a bunch of western countries even to this day.
And 1959 was a totally different era: sex with underages was a lot more tolerated back then.

>>71025060
That is sickening

>>71025141
Once upon a time life expectancy was 40, you had to do things quicker

>>71023176
>>71023304
>>71023621
>>71024528
actually kekking at the levels of naivete/ deluded fanboyism one would have to possess to think he's innocent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/9572773/Pete-Townshend-I-paid-for-child-porn-to-prove-British-banks-were-channelling-sex-ring-cash.html

this is the sort of bullshit excuse i'd come up with in lieu of anything remotely believable

>>71025141
>It is sickening to have sex with people that have fully developed sex organs

You have been brainwashed my dude

>>71024262
>He appealed the decision, arguing that the judge's comments and attitude were racist and prejudiced
DINDU NUFFIN

child porn shouldn't even be punished severely anyway

in 99% of cases the so-called criminal is not actually funding the industry or abusing anyone and is therefore the only real victim of their own desires. and a pedophile who isn't deranged enough to actually molest a child already has pretty much the worst life imaginable, so why make it worse?

the saddest thing is that a lot of the time it's curable with a few months of abstinence and a bit of therapy, but because society is still incapable of actually discussing pedophilia with any degree of maturity they continue to hide away. society's attitude to pedophilia is literally creating more sex offenders

>>71025485
And yet he was still cleared of the charges and Operation Ore has been universally condemned as a failure that turned up a lot of false positives. Funny how that works.

>>71024243
Because the hipsters and faggots would get to butt hurt if the facts of his pedophillic actions ere discussed

>>71025485
The thing is that as bullshit as it sounds it's also the most likely outcome given the actual evidence of the case, chiefly that it's been proven that he never accessed the website he bought the subscription for and cancelled his subscription almost immediately after making it. That's a very odd behaviour if he was intentionally looking to watch some CP. Other than Pete telling the truth I can't see any other reason that he'd have done that. Honestly, worst case scenario here would be that Pete is a nonce, he signed up for it, realised what he was doing was wrong before actually doing anything and cancelling his subscription, but even that seems unlikely compared to his actual excuse.

>>71027132
it's very odd behaviour whatever his aim was tbqh, so i'm quite happy to invoke occam's razor and assume he's a nonce

it's not even like it's a big deal, everyone knows that anyone who was in the entertainment industry during that era will have been involved in seedy underage sex at some point

13 year olds are hot and for a time it was possible to get away with acting on that. and lo, a nonce epidemic is born

>>71025598
>child porn shouldn't even be punished severely anyway
I can only hope that you're not being serious.
>and a pedophile who isn't deranged enough to actually molest a child already has pretty much the worst life imaginable, so why make it worse?
If by that you mean that pedophilia is recognized as a psychiatric disorder, then I'd have to agree, having a psychiatric disorder and living with it is horrifying.
http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/GRNBOOK.pdf
>the saddest thing is that a lot of the time it's curable with a few months of abstinence and a bit of therapy
This is factually and scientifically wrong. There isn't a known cure for pedophilia, instead, the focus is on helping the pedophile from acting their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they effect a long-term change in sexual preference, because its development is influenced by prenatal factors.
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev.clinpsy.032408.153618
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/195539

>>71027802
>I can only hope that you're not being serious.
absolutely 100%. the production of child porn should be (and uh, is) severely punished, and the purchase of child porn should be less seriously reprimanded, but the only 'punishment' for viewing free images of child sex abuse should be immediate intensive therapy. the only victim of the latter is the person viewing it - the actual abuse has already occurred and is not being perpetuated just because someone who is mentally ill and feels they have no other choice is viewing it for free.

>>71027802
>If by that you mean that pedophilia is recognized as a psychiatric disorder, then I'd have to agree, having a psychiatric disorder and living with it is horrifying

it isn't this simple though, because it's a psychiatric disorder which no rational person would come forward about and seek help for, due to the extreme risk of being imprisoned or publicly outed. weirdly the only worse life available to most pedophiles is the life they could quite realistically face if they actually try to overcome their pedophilia. there is no other mental disorder for which this is the case, besides maybe compulsive serial killing.

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>>71028099
>This is factually and scientifically wrong.

i can literally confirm it isn't from personal experience m8. i spent 6-7 years jacking off to progressively more depraved shit, despite not feeling attraction to children as a child myself.

there is a massive cognitive dissonance in the classification of pedophilia - people want to class it as a mental disorder yet not offer any realistic treatment or therapy to help face it, at the same time we don't want to treat it as a sexual preference despite the fact that it is exactly that by definition. a lot of this is to do with the fact that we want to believe it is impossible to influence or change sexuality. yet i knew this to be false because when i was a child i was sexually attracted to adults, and it was only as i became an adult that my tastes regressed to children. why was it not possible to effect that change in reverse?

and lo and behold, after ~3 months of abstaining from masturbation and pornography of any kind, i was 'cured'. i haven't felt even the faintest urge for a child in 2 years, and have a perfectly normal sexual appetite for fully grown women. and while i can't apply my own experiences to everyone, i am quite sure that there are shitloads of supposed pedophiles out there like me who simply regressed because they never had any release in their adolescence, and were exposed to the sensory overload of free HD porn.

>>71023373
>Jesus Christ, what was he thinking?
probably something along the lines of "gimmie dem toddlers m8"

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>>71025598
>child porn shouldn't even be punished severely anyway
>in 99% of cases the so-called criminal is not actually funding the industry or abusing anyone and is therefore the only real victim of their own desires. and a pedophile who isn't deranged enough to actually molest a child already has pretty much the worst life imaginable, so why make it worse?
>the saddest thing is that a lot of the time it's curable with a few months of abstinence and a bit of therapy, but because society is still incapable of actually discussing pedophilia with any degree of maturity they continue to hide away. society's attitude to pedophilia is literally creating more sex offenders

>>71028113
>i can literally confirm it isn't from personal experience m8. i spent 6-7 years jacking off to progressively more depraved shit, despite not feeling attraction to children as a child myself.
holy shit fucking kill yourself

>>71028155
hilarious, but this reaction is literally part of the problem

every no-mark like you that exists unwittingly creates 10+ child sex abuse victims just by having your stupid views. hope you can sleep at night bearing that responsibility

>>71028177
>every no-mark like you that exists unwittingly creates 10+ child sex abuse victims just by having your stupid views. hope you can sleep at night bearing that responsibility

you've jacked off to kiddy porn before

take a knife and sever your wrists and go to hell, you waste of air

>>71028171
>>71028199

if your utopia came and you euthanized every single living pedophile, pedophile rings would exist again within a few months

ironic how i'm the one who actually wants to deal with the root cause and truly eradicate pedophilia. you're only interested in having someone to hate.

>>71028099
>the production of child porn should be (and uh, is) severely punished, and the purchase of child porn should be less seriously reprimanded, but the only 'punishment' for viewing free images of child sex abuse should be immediate intensive therapy
I agree with this part, but your previous post sounded like you're defending child traffickers and pedohpilia.
>i can literally confirm it isn't from personal experience m8. i spent 6-7 years jacking off to progressively more depraved shit, despite not feeling attraction to children as a child myself.
I think you realize full well why anectodal claims aren't adequate for reaching a scientific consensus.
>A 2008 functional neuroimaging study notes that central processing of sexual stimuli in heterosexual "paedophile forensic inpatients" may be altered by a disturbance in the prefrontal networks, which "may be associated with stimulus-controlled behaviours, such as sexual compulsive behaviours". The findings may also suggest "a dysfunction at the cognitive stage of sexual arousal processing"
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811908001286
You're self-diagnosed and I think you realize what that means. Furhermore, pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time. And I've linked stuides in my previous post proving that pedophilia isn't an illness that can be cured. The process works by helping the pedophile from acting their desires.

>>71028230
Again, pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time. We have studies proving this. There isn't a cure. Pedophilia isn't a result of social constructs.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/107906320701900307
https://dx.doi.org/10.1037%2F0894-4105.18.1.3
https://dx.doi.org/10.1037%2F0033-2909.131.4.555
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev.clinpsy.032408.153618
https://dx.doi.org/10.1001%2Fjama.288.19.2458

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*hands over laptop*

>>71028298
>>71028365
okay, rationally speaking i am prepared to accept that my own anecdotal claims don't hold much weight in the grand scheme of things, but they still mean something to me. i know what i've felt and experienced, and i know how i feel now, and I want to know how you explain what i've experienced. if pedophilia is not fully curable, it is certainly possible to minimize its influence to a point where you can live a normal, functioning life without ever considering or entertaining any intrusive sexual thoughts of minors. and surely that is something desirable to pursue?

>>71028459
> and I want to know how you explain what i've experienced
You weren't a pedophile to begin with. If you were, you would still have these desires you described, especially if you aren't receiving any treatment.

>>71028562
but now we're just getting into technicalities which don't matter in the eyes of the law or society in general. a man who masturbates to child erotica on a daily basis for 7 years is going to be classified as a pedophile whether they are genetically predisposed to that, or whether they've simply messed up their own pleasure centres with overindulgence in porn. i'm perfectly prepared to believe that i'm in the latter category, but if that is what happened then I find to believe i'm an isolated case. what i'm saying is, if a subset of the audience for child porn are not genetically pedophiles, then surely it is at least worth attempting to isolate those cases and treat them in a way that allows them to lead normal, healthy lives? because even when i was at the worst of my addiction, chemical castration was not an attractive option. part of attracting a partner and maintaining a healthy relationship is having a healthy sex life, which is not really an option if you uh, disable your balls.

I just wanted to be normal and I've been lucky enough to acheive that. why shouldn't others experiencing the same thing get that same opportunity?

>>71028178
I ain't judging him, I'm just saying that he did it

>>71028423
>have CP on laptop
>give it to computer specialists to fix
wot and idoit
deserved to get caught

Everyone ITT is getting vanned FYI

>>71029514
But I was only posting in this thread for research. Honest!