What's the most depressing song on this album and why?

Decades.

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The whole thing is ridiculously sad. It's kind of surprising the other Joy Division guys didn't seriously consider how fucked up Ian was until it was too late.

I personally feel that Twenty Four Hours is the most visceral song. His delivery on 'Just for one moment, thought I'd found my way /
Destiny unfolded, I watched it slip away' and 'Just for one moment, I heard somebody call /
Looked beyond the day in hand, there's nothing there at all' makes him seem so desperate, in despair, and almost angry. And of course the last part with 'Got to find my destiny, before it gets too late' is pretty sad considering it was too late for him and he killed himself.

Isolation is also pretty sad where he flat out says 'I'm ashamed of the person I am'. The whole album is a masterpiece, those are just the lines that stick to me the most.

I honestly never found Joy Divison all that depressing, it's too melodramatic to relate to. Every Joy Division song seems to be about someone who's permanently living in a tragic play, like I read the lyrics and I go like "come on dude, your life can't be this bad". I do feel for Ian when I listen to JD, but it's the kind where you brood over it for a bit then move on. Not the kind that hits you in the gut and makes you question your own life.

>>70955656
>Not the kind that hits you in the gut and makes you question your own life.
who's being melodramatic now? the whole appeal is in its realness and the fact that it's not like out of a storybook nor a tale of an unfortunate hero. he didn't want to be seen as that, in fact I feel he's made references to people exploiting what he considers honest expression for their amusement. all over his work are feelings of slight resentment and alienation even from his audience.

>>70955473
Twenty Four Hours and Isolation.
I hear a lot of pure despair in Ian's voice in Passover, too.

>>70955473
Atrocity exhibition takes home the cake. Those ceremonial drums with the classing of sounds from a overdriven guitar and vocals you can barely make out until he starts yelling lounder and louder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go1P_MH8vJg

the most haunted JD track

Twenty Four Hours is the bleakest track

>could never get into JD despite loving the post-punk genre
>this topic convinces me to listen to UP and Closer again
>still don't like them

that one where he dies, the last one i think

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>>70955656
Just had another seizure around X-mas time and let me tell you, it's not a brood-over-it-and-move-on kind of thing.

Shit sucks, so I can see where that aspect of Ian's lyricism came from. Also, when they were jamming, he'd be the one to pick out the interesting parts (to him) and they just kind of stuck with them and eventually they'd make songs out of the whole stew.

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>>70958206
don't know if was intended or not but I just saw that as UP (and in R.E.M.'s "UP" or the movie "UP" ...like get happy and elevate yourself..."

>pic related

The last Nirvana album

Because Kobain kills himself

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>>70959290

OK, faggot, it's at 6:04:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nirvana/comments/55o2yb/kurt_cobain_about_joy_division_and_his_lyrics/

>first time I've ever been to that site... it's kind of confusing to an old fart like me.

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>>70955473
I remember making a mix-tape for my friend's girlfriend and I put "Heart & Soul" as the first track to the B-side (real tape not this shit that these days DJs are called "MIX TAPES") and she got so freaked out by it driving home that she had to turn it off. Made me laugh because "Passover" or "Decades" would have been far more depressing. I guess the "atmosphere" of the sound got to her...

>>70959392
That was really interesting, thanks. He seems more candid in this about his writing style then in the few others I have heard.

ive never managed to into JD properly, theyre the kind of band ill listen to and enjoy, then just not revisit for ages

which album should i marathon first to into them properly?

Everything they recorded is great. I'd recommend the Substance compilation which collects their singles. It gives a nice career overview.

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>>70960028
>>70960071
Meant for

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bump

What about the most depressing song on UP?

>>70955530
fpbp

>>70960910
New Dawn Fades or She's lost control
>>70956058
Agreed is so explicit