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>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.

/prod/ IRC is up!
To join, you can go to http://www.rizon.net/chat
Choose a nick, put #/prod/ as channel. Enter!
Or you can get a lightweight desktop client here https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP: posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a Soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

Remember to check other peoples' clyp.it links to keep the thread healthy.
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https://clyp.it/gwvxd4ke
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>>70943312
sounds like an intro
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stop using pictures that have nothing to do with /prod/
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>tfw you find out you can re-use tracks from your others Ableton projects when you add your project folder to the browser

I'm so sorry /prod/. This feature changes everything. I was the one who promoted the use of the word "unableton" but now I finally realize how good this program is. Please forgive me for everything I've done in these threads.
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https://youtu.be/47QwKId3AVU?t=40 is there a name for the synth(?) that's played at 0:40. I'm very new to this stuff and have no idea.
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>>70943352
it is an intro
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>>70944937
I suspected as much of all you anti-ableton kids
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https://clyp.it/yhkxs54f
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i cant find/make any drum loops to match up with this piano sample i have and its frustrating! the problem is the piano sample loop goes for like 3 and 2/3 measures and nothing syncs up to it because its either in 2, 4, or 8 measure loops
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i feel like the only reason i have 50 sc followers is out of irony
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>tfw you sell all your equipment and throw your laptop in the trash and give up on music production

feels damn good
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>>70944189
why? is it triggering your autism?
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>>70945442

The piano sample is in 3/4 then, right? You'd need to extend the piano loop by repeating a section of it at the end of the measure - copy a single 1-beat section and tack it on at the end to complete the final measure.

It's your only option unless you shorten the loop to only use two measures
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>>70945498
You have really caused me to possess newly formed thoughts
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>>70945442
So you have to make a drum loop that fits the piano sample with single drum samples, google it
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>>70945546
Autism diagnoses usually do that. You may want to take a seat. It may be overwhelmingly to swallow the immensity of your condition.
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>>70945593
I bet you know all about swallowing immensity
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>>70945617
holy fucking shit dude. homosexuality? lmao. see pic related? that's you, you edgy motherfucker,
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How do I make good acid techno?
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>>70945527
>>70945577
thanks for the advice :)
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>>70945676
are you forgetting that you also made this post >>70945498 or are you just intentionally calling the kettle black? lol
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>>70945756
>he doesn't get the 4chan autism meme
>makes homophobic remark
>called out
>"you're just calling the kettle black"
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>>70944189
>>70945498
>>70945546
>>70945593
>>70945617
>>70945676
underage, please leave
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Thoughts on the APC Mini? Gonna use it for Ableton and I want to spend less time using the mouse.
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is there any way to make pitch bend automation/recording in Live /not/ be retarded?
>inb4 don't use live
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>>70946154

I think I understand what you're getting at - your recorded parts aren't initializing the pitch bend (setting to centre position) at the start of the part, and instead they use the very first pitch bend message they receive as the starting point? Pain in the arse when that happens but all I do with them is create a break point at the very start of the part set to zero pitch bend.
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>>70946261
I honestly have no fucking clue what's going on.

I'm using the "pitch" midi effect to pitch down my piano VST by say 3 semitones

then I'll use my midi controller's pitch bend wheel to bend my notes, and it'll sound great.

Then I'll try and record it, and suddenly the pitch midi effect gets fucked up and plays ____ semitones too high and then I need to do a full gambit of fucking around with the pitch bend envelope, the pitch plugin, and my keyboard to get it back to playing correctly

I'll try what you suggested.
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>>70946338

Yeah that's what is happening with you - Ableton doesn't set a zero automation break point at the start of parts because that's not always what is wanted (it would set filter and EQ automation to zero on each parameter at the start of parts too if it did that by default) but it definitely is what you need with pitch bend - gotta manually add them.
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>>70945770
>going full sjw because someone didnt like your rainymoodcomfythred op picture
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>>70946338
is there not a way to go down by 3 semitones in the vst you're using? doing that instead of using the midi effect could make it less of a hassle
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>>70946548
unfortunately the vst only goes by octaves, and the sample/sound quality of the VST is thus far unparalleled
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>>70946589
Bounce it to audio and then warp it 3 semitones down.
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>>70944937
Why would I ever need that feature?
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>>70945483
But why.
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Check this out:

>71k followers
https://soundcloud.com/official-rezz

>100 followers
https://soundcloud.com/cadence-hira

Life is not fair. Btw, this first girl has been began /prod/ing later than me and I still have to finish my first track lmao. (Those 2 or 3 that were almost finished are trash and I will not mention them)
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>>70946790
has begun proding*
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>>70946702

It's useful if you're creating a live set from a collection of tracks - drag-and drop is well handy for bringing individual elements of the tracks into a set. Remember that this (live performance) is what Ableton was designed for.
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>tfw bitwig masterrace
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>>70945483
why? were you not just doing it because you enjoyed it? were you just trying to "make it"?
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Can I get a rate for this?
https://clyp.it/455tgwl4
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>>70945902
looks like a pretty decent controller for the price
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how do you guys stay motivated to make music? i just try to work on music when I can because i figure the more i try, the better i will get. i have posted my music in here a couple of times it usually doesn't get any comments (which is fine!!) or i'll get some snide unconstructive comment. i guess sometimes i will be working on something and a lot of the time i will just feel like 'what is the point, it's not like i can make anything good' and i will suddenly feel really silly and dumb for trying at all
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>>70948396
>how do you guys stay motivated to make music?
enjoy the process. be happy with progress not perfection.
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>laptop broke
>now only have shitty chromebook for music production
>so nothing
Is there anything even slightly decent for online production? I've tried using some, and I can get results, but it feels like wrestling a cat.
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>>70944937
if that's the game changer for you, you really have some shit to learn about macros and everything else

>>70947577
learntomixout/10
turn that kick way down wtf

this song has potential- needs a lot of stacked synths, better use of pads, delay and reverb and space overall. work on your arrangement and programming skills man

>>70945276
>https://clyp.it/yhkxs54f
too much reverb.

bus to different verbs/ not at all / delays instead
separating each element doesn't work if you shove everything through one verb man

>>70948396
>stay motivated
because it's fun???

sorry, I run through bigger threads and leave advice on every clyp I see without a reply. Drop something and i'll come back to it dude.
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>>70946589
Is it kontakt? becuase you can go under the hood to change pitch bend google it

Also you are using the envelope panel in the clip?
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if any senpaitachi have any ideas how to finish this track let me know in chat. something's missing

twitch tv airbornmartin
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>>70948821
No, it's Addictive Keys.
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>>70948910
>>70948821
Also yeah, I am.
I managed to fix the problem by adding a breakpoint to the beginning like the other guy said.
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Can someone help me figure out what kind of processing was done to the singer's voice in this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epsUfFZ5i6Y

It sounds to me like they gutted the low end and put a notched filter on it, but if that were the case my vocals would sound like his.
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where can i get a sylenth for free? pirate bay is shit
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>>70949321
rutracker
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>>70948865
this pop shit sucks why do you do this
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>>70949004
I can kinda get a similar effect by vocoding the voice sample and having itself as the carrier, and then tweaking the settings a bit

still sounds nowhere near as good as the real thing
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>>70944937
lmao, that sounds like something most DAWs would have.
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>>70946507
lol damn
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>>70948739
Not that guy, but the kick on this clyp

>>70947577
sounds completely fine to me? isn't that the genre that has drums as the loudest instrument in the mix?
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>>70949004

They've gutted the low end because it sounds like they're using an octaver effect, so there's a one-octave pitched down version of the vocal mixed with the original at quite a low level.

Cutting out the low end masks the effect to a degree and does indeed make it sound slightly vocoded as >>70949624 points out - come to think of it the easiest way to get this effect would be to use a surgical pitch shifting program like Melodyne so there could in fact be subtle auto-tuning going on too.

There's a section where the music drops out leaving only the vocal and if you listen at that point you'll notice that the qualities of the vocal change and don't resemble the effect you're looking for - again this is to mask the processing that (in the opinion of the producer) may not have the same impact when heard out of context with the rest of the mix.
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So.. mono compatibility, do you care? I do not, at least as not as much as when I heard heaps of songs I knew in mono and they sounded like sawdust.
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This Punk Rock/Cody cover is going to kill me
So far, got Punk Rock done
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MKZx70MgzX
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https://clyp.it/r51cvxd2
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https://clyp.it/pqvbj2qc

newest thing I've been working on, what do you guys think
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Checked the pastebin and didn't see anything related to hardware for capturing analog sources. Where do I start? An external soundcard/DAC? As long as it can record hi res with minimal noise I'll be okay. Also, would I need a preamp, or can the card handle it?
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>>70952395

There are two things you need to think of, one of which is pretty much dealt with in most devices anyway but still it doesn't hurt to know what you need.

Every device will have line level inputs so most of your synths will be happy going straight in, but the two you have to think of are:

1. Mic inputs - if you use a condenser mic you'll need a device that can supply phantom power (this is the one that most devices will have) and:

2. Guitar (high impedance or Hi-Z) inputs - if you plug a guitar straight into your interface with no pedals in between that buffer or convert to a low-impedance signal you'll need either an interface with a Hi-Z input or you'll need a DI box to place between the guitar's output and the device's input - some older synths are happier with a DI box too but guitars especially need them.
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ok legit, say your product is where you want it to be...

... how the fuck do you build a real following and start getting "where" you want to be... so to speak? I literally have like zero friends and am clueless

but my tracks are REAL close to being ace, like after years of practice I'm actually getting there
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>really want to produce an album/music of some sort
>can't sing
>can't play any instrument other than the drums (very poorly)
>can hardly read music, i struggled to even back during band in middle school
What do I do, /prod/? I've fucked around in audio programs before but it seems impossible to me.
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https://clyp.it/qztzb035
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Anyone have thoughts on Abelton Push?
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>>70952850
it looks good but its too expensive imo and they will probably come out with push 3 one day
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prod thread is basically a gear thread right?
Should I buy a nice piano with no midi/usb or just wait for a used nord electro or a prophet to come up for sale
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>>70952881
Yeah it is pricey, but it comes bundled with Live Suite at ridiculous mark down. Suite has a ton of good software
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>>70952900
these are 3 things that couldn't be more different
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>>70952747
join a bunch of online communities, but make friends first, don't make an account on gearslutz or reddit and start spamming groups with ur music and shit, be active and helpful and contribute and little by little you'll start to make friends and become noticed as a knowledgeable helpful guy who also makes good music, that will net you about 40 fans After all that work, then go all out with the social media, pandering to those 40 fans with cool personal instagram pics and interact with them and be active, and idk, i'm drunk
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>>70952994
tfw got suite for $400 as an upgrade from intro like a year before push 1 released

i think if you dont have the suite and plan on using live as your main daw it is worth the price
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>>70953071
heh, that sounds kind of horrible. but that's cool. i'm in this to hear other people's stuff too. I want to make a new movement, and not just another jerk off "genre" - I want to fuck shit up. like Acid House level tier of revolutionary music
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>>70952785
>>can hardly read music, i struggled to even back during band in middle school
learn basic music theory (imo the idiots guide to music composition/music theory are both real good) first. then just start writing synth lines and see where it goes from there. if you get stuck apply what composition techniques you have learned
and anyone can sing!!
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>>70953110
>and anyone can sing!!
anyone can try.. whether or not you'll ever have nice enjoyable tones and timbres coming out of your pipes is probably something that's out of ur control
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>>70953047
what I'm looking at is a rhodes mk1
nord electro seems about the same price and has a rhodes patch and has more outputs
prophet is like double the price but nice enough to justify
picture is sort of unrelated mk7 is impossible to find
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I'm new as fuck to this, but here's an idea I thought up of today.
https://clyp.it/ckoq3wiw
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>>70952747
if your tracks are truly amazing then hit up a ton of labels/promo channels and start from there

>>70952785
start off slow, get a MIDI keyboard, learn some basic music theory, learn how to use DAWS/synths/plugins and don't worry, every musician can sing up to a level, the rest is up to voice correction software, it's possible and completely up to you to succeed, believe in it, put hard work and you will make it

>>70952805
pretty nice loop you got there

>>70953459
pretty cute arrangement, sounds good for being new, still sounding stock but well, the more you work on it the more professional sounding your stuff will get
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>>70952249
?
>>70952334
Very chill, would dance to, but the synth that comes in at 16 seconds sounds really cheesy and the sidechained delay ruins it for me.

>>70952747
let us hear first

>>70952805
?

>>70953103
I want to hear it.

check this boiz
https://clyp.it/kf0u4v3y
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>that moment when you realize music is just a bunch of frequencies that sounds good together
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>>70953608
>that moment when you realize music is just math
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>>70953513
>?
shitty drum loop i made in 5 minutes
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>>70953084
Dope af deal regardless desu.
Yeah I think I'll just get the push suite bundle
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>>70953459
>>70953504
I don't really know how to play with the sounds. I can play some guitar and percussion, but I don't really know how to do anything but play with effects..
Where can I learn?
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>>70953608
>>70953625
mfw
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trying to make a trap beat in the new style of being rough around the edges, need some feedback
https://clyp.it/znsqdek2
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>>70954071
meme/10
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>>70954071
the 808s aren't present or strong enough , and the top melody layer is kinda thin overall it's about a 4/10 beat, but with some nice production work it could be a strong 7/10
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>>70954071
Me too, I'm just starting out and this is my first trap beat. Using really shitty speakers so it probably sounds like shit.

https://clyp.it/njuiduml
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https://clyp.it/kf0u4v3y
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>>70954338
>https://clyp.it/njuiduml

more electronic than trap m8
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>he doesn't realize you can make music by simply pressing a few buttons

serious lads i have ableton for like a week now and im already writing music. I dont even feel special. All i'm doing is arranging midi. I wanna go back to playing guitar
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>>70954663
that's because you've never played a piano
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>>70954663
Just play guitar then. Are you being forced to use ableton or something? Did you get kidnapped by Robert Henke?
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https://clyp.it/wdyzfn4g
liquid dnb, untitled, work in progress
I think I have a winner here
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>>70954663
>arranging premade loops

i can make a full 3 minute song in like 10 clicks of the mouse
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>>70954756

im not using pre made loops
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Why in the fuck does FL Studio 12 crackle, stutter and pop with only two instruments when I have an Intel i7 4790k? Everything else in the computer is close to top of the line too. This shit didnt happen one bit with FL Studio 11. Yes, I pirated them. Anyway, /prod/ general since I didnt see one.
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I'm currently torrenting this. What's the difference between the essentials and the full symphony series? (Downloading the former because it's less space)
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what /prod/'s opinion on real drums verses programmed drums that were made to sound real, especially when it comes to rock shoegaze or something like that
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>>70954663
>trying to trigger me
you've done succeeded. .
besides, writing music is easy as fuck, making good / interesting/ well produced music is the hard/fun part though
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>>70956402

ableton does all that for you with the midi effects. Extract/add grooves, appregiators, scales, etc. tons of automations. All Skrillex and them do is press a few buttons and it all gets generated. Easiest shit ever

it's the mixing and mastering thats hard
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>>70956776
das what i fucking said tho
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>>70953513
way too loud to the point where it's distorting, it's distracting too much to be able to give any more feedback

>>70953709
go through the manuals and try to understand everything that's on there

>>70954071
you need to bring the bells and everything else down, 808's should take over the mix also don't forget to sidechain

>>70954362
same as before, it's so loud that it's distorting

>>70954663
serious lads I have a guitar for like a week now and im already playing an A minor. I dont even feel special. All i'm doing is hitting those same strings. I wanna go back to making music on the computer.

>>70954735
sounds like you haven't been doing this for a long time

>>70955297
buffer settings on your interface/ASIO?

>>70956171
if they sound real they're just as good
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>get excited
>open DAW
>spend hours trying to make music
>nothing ever comes together
>end up disappointed and exhausted
>repeat next day

mylife.jpg
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How do I write lyrics that aren't shit?
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how did justice make cross?
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>>70957520
write drunk edit sober
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>>70946507
>going full sjw
prove it.
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I just got pic related and I was curious if it's OK to mix/master on them? I cannot afford speakers.
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https://clyp.it/kd4vqnl3
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>>70958127
Use what you got man. But headphones do pose many challenges. it'll be a bit of a learning curve but it can be done, moastly.
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>go on fl
>mess around with drum patterns
>all sound like shit
>mess around in massive
>all my sounds sound like shit
>go on fl keys
>still sounds like shit
>tfw go on slicex to chop a drum loop
>drums sound like shit
>go on harmor
>everything sounds like shit
>4-5 hours later
>nothing sounds audible

REEEEEEEEE I JUST WANT TO MAKE MUSIC I ENJOY FOR ONCE
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>>70945483
>tfw you sell all your equipment and throw your laptop in the trash and give up on music production
Obviously didn't own a space echo kek
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>>70945902
>I want to spend less time using the mouse.
I have the Maschine studio and you can do literally everything through the controller, it's amazing. About the only thing you can't do is name tracks/samples etc
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>>70952785
Mate, I can't do any of that stuff either and I've been producing for nearly 20 years.
I can't even play a chord on my control keyboard unless I fluke it I have no idea.
I've learned a lot in those 20 years though so much so that I've never felt the need to learn how to play a chord. I guess I'm a "non musician" in that sense. If you like fucking about with sounds you could make your own album just using sounds you've made yourself, there are ways of getting around not being able to sing, just take a look at genres that have been useing autotune for the last 15 years.
Just go be creative. Software like AudioMulch is pretty much designed for the non musician
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I currently have a AT2020USB+. Is it worth upgrading to a Shure PG42 ?

I want better quality and having a highpassed feedback seems useful to me

I record at home or sometimes in repetition rooms so I'd rather not buy interface but I'm not sue about that

Thanks
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>>70956895
>sounds like you haven't been doing this for a long time

No I just haven't worked on the song for more than an hour
I just think the melody, if developed more, could be good
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>>70958673
How have you been producing for 20 years and you don't even know how to play a chord?
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I just like this synth too much. Here's a couple of phrases without any proper arrangement:
https://clyp.it/mhszii0o
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>>70958106
your posts about "calling me out" for my "homophobic remark" lol. definitely doesnt cheapen accusations of genuine homophobia to throw it around like that because i made fun of you for talking about "swallowing the immensity" of something. keep it up sport, i'm sure the gay community is crying tears of joy for your tireless crusade
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>>70960451
It does sound good but I think you should lower the volume of the synth after the intro and remove some of its low frequencies to leave more room for the bass. Also add more stuff in the higher frequencies.

Here are 3 beats for which I think the idea is decent but the production isn't as good as I imagined
https://clyp.it/aqv52c5x
https://clyp.it/apztbj0k
https://clyp.it/o4fnrtt5
How do I fix them?
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https://clyp.it/kb2d32dw


Made this yesterday. looking for some critique.
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https://clyp.it/aeqrvvgd
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>>70960600
>small remark
>crusade
Get your head of your ass.
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>>70960759
>joke about the wording you used
>homophobic
get your head out of your ass
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>>70960779
>jokes can't be homophobic
You are a fucking brainlet
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>>70960712
Use a limiter on your master
Your bass isn't interesting enough to stand on its own as an intro
Your arp is pretty nice but I feel like it was a preset, is that correct?
Your drums could use a little more compression, maybe even some saturation
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>>70960791
i think you're confusing homophobic for just involving homosexuality at all. also the word crusade was intentional hyperbole to highlight how little you're actually doing to fight homophobia with this fucking masturbatory moralizing lol
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>>70960820
You said:

>I bet you know all about swallowing immensity

Are you 12? What's wrong with taking a penis down your esophagus?
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>>70960792
>arp is pretty nice but I feel like it was a preset

No actually! All the synth sounds were made with Serum!

and thanks, I was feeling the same way about the intro so it's awesome seeing someone else say it too. Thanks for taking the time to listen!
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>>70960835
and speaking of masturbatory moralizing.... keep fighting the good fight dood, ur so woke!
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>>70960874
It's not masturbatory moralizing. I'm just encouraging you to respond with something beyond the hackneyed insult of an edgy 12 year old.
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>>70960886
he said after entering the conversation with "UR AUTISTIC"
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>>70960918
Do I have to explain to you once again? >>70945770
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>>70960926
oh so it's not hackneyed and edgy because it's a meme? flawless logic lol good god you're stupid
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>>70960936
I didn't say memes weren't hackneyed. I'm just telling you that you are on 4chan and you seriously don't understand the meme? This started when your OCD kicked in and you started complaining about OP's image. "Autism" is literally the oldest meme on 4chan, as it stands for certain characteristics of autism that many 4chan anons seem to exhibit. Is there some homophobic meme I am missing?
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>>70960985
>you seriously don't understand the meme
no, that's just a thing you keep saying for some reason. not entirely sure what you're basing it off of
>when your OCD kicked in
when i said a thing that you didnt like and it triggered you into responding*
>Is there some homophobic meme I am missing?
not being a moralizing douchebag? it's not a meme so much as just a thing you do in life to not look like a jackass
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>>70960985
seriously though, i also wanna just re-iterate how fucking hilarious it is that you're trying to pull the "YOU'RE NOT FROM ROUND THESE PARTS" schtick on me while simultaneously getting hyper-offended by some pretty tame gay innuendo. do you not see how that warrants its own "what are you even doing here?"
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Is this good ambient?

>Ambient
>Jazz
>Experimental
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https://clyp.it/uctpwloa

unfinished

>i have no idea what genre
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I've made this synthwave for a birthday gift.

Is it shit? https://clyp.it/vaw2s2o1

[spoiler]gonna listen to thread[/spoiler]
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>>70958227
Lol. Clean prod tho.

>>70954362
Too bad the bass are so distorted, also that fat synth coming after feels out of touch. Like bringing a kazoo in a hardtech festival

>>70954338
It's actually pretty nice. Reminds me a lot of 00's stuff but in a non cheesy way.

>>70952334
You're almost too good for this thread. It feels the track is not yet mastered, but some of the sub freqs already been boosted.
I'd try to add a touch of separation in the stereo field, especially for the percussions. The 16 sec is very ok for me. Very good prod for me, just master it to make it thicker overall.
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>>70951835
if youre doing anything in stereo i dont know whats wrong with you
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>>70963104
You got to stick to pol threads, you automatically out yourself as stupid here
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>>70963260
art is apolitical therefore im not interested
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Guys I need some help

I torrented symphony essentials (plugin) and I want to use them in logic pro X.

Where do I put these files?
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yo /prod/!!! felt lazy today and jammed a bit with mpc and sp303. got some boombap, the usual stuff.. lemme know
https://clyp.it/mezexifq


>>70962897
>https://clyp.it/vaw2s2o1
man wtf this shit is great. i dig the futu80s vibe. robocop would bang this in his robocar for sure. also i got some clockwork orange vibe at the beginnning. all in all sounds really cinematic, good job

>>70962398
>https://clyp.it/uctpwloa
this sounds good too. dope drum. i would work something else for the synth starting at 1:29 maybe. sounds a bit presettish?!?!?

>>70960739
>https://clyp.it/aeqrvvgd
man wtf check your levels. good composition (i like what you are doing at 1_45+) but i don't like all those effects going nuts.
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>>70964152

Can't find an installer
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>>70964229
display photo really?
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>>70964321
I am ban evading
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>>70964229
Like every question here, go to google
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>>70960985
shut the fuck up faggot
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>>70964229
stop installing windows files on your mactop and go concentrate on getting your retard gpa up
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>>70965109
also, sorry to hear about the other kids saying you're weird and putting you on snapchat

that ain't cool but it gets better down the road

underage b& btw
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>>70964177
Really chill. Maybe the snare can feel some Dbs too loud in the calm part but it's not long enough part for it to become annoying so it's good. Pretty solid for its genre so not a lot of thing to say! Das good
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>>70965457
nice one man!! what do you think of the hihat in triplets, is that thing annoying? some friend of mine is telling so but it doesn't sounds that weird to me (could have my ears burnt out tho)
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I'm not great but I can make a pretty decent recreation of a track. The problem is that, with my own music, both the sounds are lame and the arrangement is lacking. It always feels empty and really really amateurish. What should I do?
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>>70958549
mschine is like 1000$ fool
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is there any good tutorial on synthesizing drums
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https://clyp.it/yeuym32s

A big problem I have is that I'm slow to make new elements and so after I make a loop or chords or something I enjoy, I hear it so much that by the time I get another element I'm bored of the first. It's really frustrating. This is probably the best thing I've made and its not really that good. I think variety is a big problem for me.
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pumb
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https://clyp.it/no1zj4lj

looped STGTV into a beat. tried to give it swing. need to know if its listenable.
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>>70960365
>How have you been producing for 20 years and you don't even know how to play a chord?

Because I've never felt the need to learn how to play chords. I have always been more interested in learning the other aspects of production.
Keyboardists play chords, singers sing, drummers drum. Producers don't need to be able to play a keyboard, sing or drum
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>>70968870
>contaminating cooked meat with uncooked meat
what the fucking fuck
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https://clyp.it/n5geoooi

first thing I've made in a while

pls no bully
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>>70970292
>https://clyp.it/n5geoooi
nice one
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here's two things I worked on today, totally unrelated with each other

https://clyp.it/qw4sx44k (meme trap although I put in a lot of serious work)

https://clyp.it/dlozqh2s (some random synthpop)

what do you guys think?
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>>70969974

man really?
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>>70968870
Some little flourishes here and there might help. A two or three note melody around 0:11 comes to mind. Things like that. I like the general sound besides that, it's unsettling.

>>70970292
There's something funky going on there I can't quite put my finger on. It feels a bit choppy?

>>70971300
>https://clyp.it/qw4sx44k
Not my thing but it certainly sounds like trap.

>https://clyp.it/dlozqh2s
That sounds great, I'd probably add a touch more portmanteau onto the lead myself.

Anyone got any input for this? I'm trying to work out which lead tone is more obnoxious.
https://clyp.it/25qp0w4o
https://clyp.it/4l1yifwp
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>>70966808
Halp.
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>>70971524
thanks for your input,
the second one you posted certainly sounds fuller, I prefer it. overall some pretty nice Eurobeat of the obnoxious variety ;)
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>>70971625
practice
make more lame and amateurish tracks
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Ok, I don't get how to get multiple instruments working in Kontakt at the same time.

I loaded strings from spitfire library and then under that some brass. Now, why the fuck is the brass not playing? I saw people have everything in one Kontakt instance, and I always have everything separately.
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>>70971658
Fuck that, I already have 2 folders with hundreds of WIPs.
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>>70971670
you wanna set all the MIDI channels to be the same
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>>70971670
you need to make multiple midi tracks and route them to the instruments in kontakt and then route the instrument output to seperate channels in your daw
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>>70971780
Holy **** thanks, I would have never figured that out.
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>>70971846
>Holy ****
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>>70971692
I'm not talking about wips
full blown finished tracks, done as good as you can
critique them hard with help of others, but when they're finished
then some time later look back at what you thought was a finished track a year or so ago and see some serious progress
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>>70971846
anytime man
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>>70971813
Ok thx, I set both Midi Ch to same values and they are playing at the same time, but idk how to route them to separate mixer tracks now. I'll have to figure that part out.

>>70971882
K*k
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>>70971636
Weird, that's the one with less going on. Must be the unison making it sound wider or something and killing body.

It's surprisingly fun to write considering how stupid it is.
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>>70971906
If only I wasn't so autistic about it and focused on themes and motifs I already have, I'd have a few full albums completed. I just start hating everything at some point and let it stay in the folder for months.

But I guess it's because I'd really like to get good at electronic/pop production, but on the other hand I'd rather compose more classical music, and I'm not learning the same techniques with that. So I end up producing something I can't connect with and have a hard time finishing it.

TL;DR - the biggest problem is probably my indecision with what I want to create.
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>>70971524
i like your ugly annoying stuff mate!! underappreciated music indeed. can't give many suggestion about production but do you like lorenzo senni? it reminds me of him in a way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTUGgYhQ-o
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>>70971524
(am >>70968870)
thanks for the input. I've gotten similar criticism, and I'd like some way to learn to come up with melodies for someone who isn't trying to learn to play keyboard ya feel me.
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>>70972172
>i like your ugly annoying stuff mate!!
Thanks.

>can't give many suggestion about production but do you like lorenzo senni? it reminds me of him in a way
I haven't heard that name specifically but I had a listen and it reminds me of some other artist I've enjoyed, so I'll take that as a compliment.

I usually noodle around with soundscape/ambient type stuff so it's fun to do something a bit overboard.

>>70973002
In the past I used to hum melodies and what not that I thought of into a voice recorder and work them out once I got home.

Typically I'd use a guitar for that, but I tend to use a synth now. It definitely makes visualizing music easier for me.

You certainly don't have to do it that way though, different techniques work for different people in pretty much every stage of music.
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Anyone ever tried to make orchestral stuff? Here's my first attempt, tried to make it as generic as possible.
https://clyp.it/ylorxly2
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Here's a chiptune-house type track I've been working on for a couple of hours
I was trying to make something similar to some stuff from Hotline Miami
https://clyp.it/pqz5w5cg
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https://clyp.it/zlvbj1ut

low effort beat

inspired by nujabes, blank banshee, burial.
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I want to know how album fags work on their songs.

When you are trying to get an album done and you have 8 songs you need to complete how do you work on them?

Do you work on a single song till its ready for mastering or do you rotate between all the songs and add bits to them as the ideas come?
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>>70974307
most of them have like a bunch of little projects and ideas saved before, and just work on that after finishing one or two iconic tracks i think
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What are some good resources for acapellas or vocal sample archives?
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https://clyp.it/aeqrvvgd
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>>70973538
perfect sounding organic strings in the intreo. the "epic percussion samples" aren't that great (as inproblem with the samples themselves), but you have something really good going on there.

this is some orchestral stuff I did ages ago

https://clyp.it/43wdb1ti

>>70973613
it's way too quiet and muddy, sounding kinda random, you're probably new to this

>>70974054
very nice, I'd sidechain more to the drums and speaking of drums, I like them but the samples could be a bit better, I feel like this track would go perfect with some classic sloppy dilla-like samplework

>>70974307
anyone who works on an album knows this feel.
originally you're like "I'm gonna do songs from start to finish each and move to the next one"
but that never ends up happening, you constantly move around them changing shit up, which is kinda imperative because personally I want to have a common theme in an album so I like to throw references in every track

>>70974364
are you looking for famous acapellas or random ones?

>>70975072
I remember you from yesterday, you didn't listen to my feedback :( this is really loud and it's distorting
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>>70975354
>:( this is really loud and it's distorting
It's almost as if... I did that on purpose.

HMM, REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, HUH?
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>>70975400
is it like a meme or do you think it sounds good that way?
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>>70975354

nice job on that clyp. you on sc?
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>>70975400
theres nothing wrong with being loud and distorted but you have to make it sound good while youre doing that. i quite like the bass at the end but the rest is

especially your "trap influenced beats". the beginning and middle just doesnt sound well made, the synth at the beginning doesnt fit and sounds very amateur, and the end its just really boring too. the melody isnt amazing but its not the worst, but its not enough to carry a song considering you just repeat the same mediocre melody the whole thing.

id be a bit nicer but youre being a dick to the other guy.
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>>70972153
you said you have a coupled hundred unfinished tracks. thats not actually very many tracks! actually I only have about that many too though but ah well ill give advice anyways. personally i dont think finishing tracks is as important as the other guy but eh, just make sure you are able to get past the 4 bar loop stage and can get a track outlined to the point if you were going to put time into perfecting it, you could do so. for me at least there was a huge hump between when I wrote loops and when I wrote songs. for arrangement this is a huge step, idk if thats what youre doing but when youre doing your shitty WIPs, try to focus on how you would arrange it into a full track before you finish each section. this way you can get better at arranging before you finish a track. also, try to merge random WIP projects together, even ones that dont seem like theyd fit. being able to squish things together like that is a huge part of arrangement ime. for sound design, you just sort of have to sit there and work on parts for fucking ever, I dont like this so I suck at it. but thats one you cant really get out of putting the time into it. what i do is i just go with a lo fi vibe on all of my tracks, sure they dont sound as good but if you dont want to put the effort into sound design, you can pull off acceptible stuff this way even if it sounds like its from the 90s. but if you really want to get good, follow lots of youtube tutorials to get a feel for how your tools work and then extend it and spend hours and hours. a friend of mine who is an actual pro spends 75% of their time just on sound design.
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>>70975354
>are you looking for famous acapellas or random ones?
random ones ideally, but good quality ones still
just want some stuff to use quick snippets of, like an arca or dilla track would
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>>70943312
sounds good m8
>>70947577
5/10
>>70952334
p good
>>70953459
the melody is pretty weak imo
>>70962111
it's kind of drifting free- something to anchor it would be nice, a melodic pattern or just something to clear the fog
>>70973613
hm, definitely got something going for it


ok here's my shit, literally my first time, b kind
https://clyp.it/3i2omaie
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>>70977434
>rates other people's music
>his own music sounds like shit
why do people do this?
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sumthin i made https://clyp.it/ahaexcgd

still a beginner
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>>70977639
>using the "I'd like to see YOU try" argument.
If you got seafood poising, the restaurant wouldn't just tell you, "I'd like to see YOU cook a fish!"
You can critique something without being an expert about it.
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>>70977685
even a jazz song has a stronger kick than this load of shit.
bass is way too high, or is that shit even a bass at all?
overall the whole track sounds cheesy as fuck. 1/10
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>>70977639
because lazyposting is worse.
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>>70977769
except your track has the exact same problems as the problems you pointed out in the other tracks lmao
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>>70977801
he is not me.
>>70977799
is me.
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>>70977801
i'm not >>70977434
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>>70977771
you make some good points.
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Hello peeps, been working on this... thing. It should eventually become something resembling breakcore. Hopefully!

https://instaud.io/Llg
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https://clyp.it/3vvdwb0x

Is there such a thing as westcoast, lounge funk?

After making this it's what I'm feeling, thoughts on sound quality? First attempt at sampling and electronic music in general.
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>>70977639
hey man, it's better than having a clyp not being rated or listened to at all!

>>70977434
I for one, appreciate you giving my track feedback :3
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>>70974054
I like this, has a sloppy dont give a shit vibe
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>>70970292
>https://clyp.it/n5geoooi
hop skippity doo da day
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>>70977891
>not posting clyp
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>>70977685
>https://clyp.it/ahaexcgd
yikes, keep learning, everything is weak
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>>70977685
i like the vibe, sounds a bit like zora's domain from zelda. production needs work. keep at it dude
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>>70979008
phew, I was starting to think it's completely shit
the main thing I dislike is the bass, I should've made it not that high.
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I produce, mix, and master entirely on FL studio.
let the triggering begin
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>>70974054
I really liked that, was the end a sample?
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>>70978666
haha yea thats what i was going for. was bored with producing too seriously so i just made some shit randomly in like half an hour
>>70982261
the piano and the sax ending was ripped from "wise one" by coltrane in his album "crescent".
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>>70977891
>https://instaud.io/Llg
intro is a bit long and boring. but eh. should start at like the 30 or 40 second mark id wager but its not that big of a deal, cept u might get people who get bored 10 sec into it and not ever reach the juicy stuff if its not a song in an album. the drum programming is actually not too bad. it is a bit repetetive too, i guess thats my big problem with the track but eh. and boring gay hat on every beat thing you use at parts is just gay imo with them mixed so high, even if like at 3:15 ish you have a bit thats different from that in the loop, its still a boring pattern and should be mixed way lower so it doesnt stand out over the rest of the drums if youre going to be doing that kind of pattern so they dont stand out id say. but all in all i quite like it, good job.
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why are you all so bad?
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>>70983204
we're all bad here. I'm bad. you're bad.

you must be, or you wouldn't have come here.
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>>70983204
https://clyp.it/3vvdwb0x

what you think senpai
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>>70974307
>Do you work on a single song till its ready for mastering

Do this. The worst time of working on the track is the last part, also the hardest. If you don't force yourself through this infuriating time with a track before moving onto the next, you won't finish anything and years will go by. Its called fucking discipline.
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>>70983492
>Do this. The worst time of working on the track is the last part, also the hardest. If you don't force yourself through this infuriating time with a track before moving onto the next, you won't finish anything and years will go by. Its called fucking discipline.

Not true.
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>>70982707
You made that in like a half hour? What the fuck, I can barely make anything sound coherent.
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feedback pls
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Migrating from FL to Ableton. What am I in for?
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>>70975677
ye senpai, but don't wanna post here, are you on the prod discord?
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>>70986433
a whole new world
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where do i get max for live? searching it on audioz just brings up a bunch of people's different max for live devices
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opinions on this thing?
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>>70987572
looks like a good choice if you've got a few pieces of gear you want to sequence
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>>70987622
the thing is, i don't.
i want to use it as a controller for live and then anything i buy in the future i can hook up and expand the setup
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I can't find much about this on the internet so let me get the terminology on this right:

1st chord: Eb - Gb - A - C, with another C in the bass
2nd chord: D# - F# - B, with another B in the bass
3rd chord: E - G - B, with another E in the bass

I see this as a IV-V-I progression.

2nd to 3rd chord is basically V to I in harmonic E minor.

1st chord is IV in second inversion (root position: A - C - Eb - Gb).

So it's a subdominant diminished seventh chord in second inversion which resolves to a dominant function.

It's a bit confusing because I changed the note names enharmonically in the first chord, it would actually be D# - F# - A - C and wtf is that? Also, I read that in minor, IV7 can only be in the root position, and I'm using a second inversion here.

How can I analyse this properly?
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>>70987870
Oh shit, why do I have to post it on the internet before figuring it out immediately.

It's actually VII-V-I, isn't it? D# - F# - A - C is seventh diminished chord on the VII degree and I'm just playing 4th inversion.
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>>70987898
I'm just playing 3rd inversion*
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>>70986290
>https://clyp.it/43rzw0hd

delete it completely from your apple computer lap top, learn welding at a community college
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>>70987870
The question is why do you need to analyse this properly and the answer is you don't
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t-thanks for the feedback anon
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I'm taking independent music production in September, I'm a total sperg and know nothing about music production. I'm scared bros
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>>70987961
It certainly helps with understanding the music better and now I have another tool to work with when I want to spice up the composition.
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>>70986290
I like it
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>>70987990
Look at the wiki for perfect day lou reed, sounds like a simple song doesn't it? There isn't a definitive analysis of the chords though
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>>70987923
Go away.

>>70987982
Well, since anything can be learned on the internet anyway, why don't you just start working on it by yourself until september?
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I started working on lyric videos recently.

Would anyone be interested in cheap motion graphics to promote their songs?
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>>70978211
I liked it, fan of what the brass is doing, and the drums are decent (only thing I'd work on vis-a-vis the drums is that snare sound, I think it'd work a bit crisper). Overall I'd say that it'd work well as backing for vocals, not sure if it's necessarily 'interesting' enough to stand on its own, but I did like it, thought it went some interesting places and changed up enough.
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>>70988010
Thanks for the advice bb
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>>70982707
Sorry to come across amateur, I'm brand new to this, and was wondering how you rip a sample like that from a track (yep, BRAND new). Cheers
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>>70987898
Here you're right. Diminished chords can go anywhere, basically Beethoven's MO
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>>70988138
>>70987905

yeah 3rd inversion
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>>70988009
That's a great song. Didn't know there's not a definitive analysis on it. To be clear, I'm far from a music theorist, I did spend years in music school but as an instrumentalist. I'm actually below average when it comes to theory atm. But I started going through a harmony book for real this time and it really does help both with composition and improvisation. Most of the great composers learned those tools anyway. I really hated theory but when I started producing and composing for a hobby I started seeing importance of it.

And of course, once when you internalize all of that, you don't need to think about it. I know a lot just from playing a lot and it's in my muscle memory, and I don't need to know that song is just going through a circle of fifths in the beginning, just like Lou, because I just feel it. You can learn a lot from listening and playing, but it still helps knowing those tools, because you don't have to always depend on stumbling upon something good.

I composed shit I have no clue what is happening with, and yeah, it sounds good, but I sometimes struggle to finish it in the same mood because I don't really know what I'm composing. That's one of the examples when theory would kick in and would be helpful.
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>>70945483
I thought about this too but I've done this for so long and I actually make good stuff (I'm just too autistic to know how to market myself). I would immediately regret it.

Don't give up if you're just having a writer's block or you don't know how to mix a certain instrument.
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>>70988156
The analysis was on the wiki but I see its not there anymore. The first chord could either be the 1 minor of some key or the something else of another key. That was the jist
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>>70987982
>independent music production
toronto?
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>>70987735
>>70987572
I have a beatstep and use it all the time to sequence midi tracks in ableton. I'd imagine the Beatstep pro works the same.

you'd really have a lot of options for gear expansion with the beatstep pro, especially with all of those cv/gate outs.
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>>70988943
this is what i thought
thanks
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can you guys help me? i basicly wanna do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fljtolK9PTU
i wanna use a sampler(battery4) to play a sound and have the pitch shift according to the key i press. but the method shown just pitches is relative to the sample, i want it to pitch to the specific note i press instead. is that possible? or does there have to be some kind of pitch analysation beforehand or something?
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>>70990128
yes, you'd have to manually pitch the sample to be a C for it to work like that.
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>>70969974
>not striving to be a master of everything
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>>70990128
tfw too though question for /prod/

okay so in general how would you go about shifting something to a specific note rather than relative to the sample? let's say it's just a sample of a single note being played to make it easy.
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>>70990507
fuck me how have i not thought about this lol. this makes so much sense.
>tfw you're retarded
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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