Are they both the Karlheinz Stockhausen of our generation?

>>70887518
Nah, they still need more experimentation

>>70887518
They're the top of music for sure.

>>70887518
No, they're actually listenable.

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>>70887969
compared to his contemporaries, stockhausen is very listenable

>>70887518
naa. they're not interested in listening contexts.

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What would have Stocky called them?

Post-Post-African-Repetitions ?

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>>70888028
>he can't into sound mass

>>70888079
>African-Repetitions
What does this even mean?

>>70887518

no

>>70887969

get a load of this pleb

>>70888743
I ithink its like Post ( Post-african ( Repetitions ) )

Stockhausen was a musical, mathematical and creative genius. Autechre makes ambient and techno tunes.

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>>70887518
what does this expression convey?

>>70887541
No they'd need less

>>70888834
>gimme ya wallet m8

>>70888778
His electronic music maybe, but his keyboard works are fucking horrifying

>>70888837
>they need less
But the experimentation is what makes Autechre good, I wouldn't want them to go back to making generic 90s IDM like they did in their first two albums

>>70888778
>implying autechre aren't

Their music is highly inspired not only from the studies of Stockhausen, but also from composers like Xenakis and Parmegiani. They just took the whole thing to next level I would say, in terms of accessibility, form and melody.

>>70889219

you can't be serious

>>70888778
I'm going out on a limb to say you've only heard Stockhausen's synthesizer music.

>>70889245
>implying stockhausen, xenakis and parmegiani are more accessible and less complicated than autechre

Read better what I wrote.

>>70887518
>look mom i posted it again!

Though in your defense it ended up being a pretty ok thread in the end.

>>70888834
>cigs don't taste the same anymore
>my feet hurt
>I wonder what robs thinking

>>70887935
Yep. I agree. I truly wonder when some one else as consistently innovative as they are will come. It's truly astounding how far they have stretched the limits of music

>>70887518
>listening Karlheinz Stockhausen
Pleb

Stockhausen is a hack.

>>70891446
Its just techno m8.

>>70891801
I don't know if I agree but he's certainly got an inflated ego.

>>70892182
Nah man, I'm sorry. Not even close to just being techno. I totally understand how could perceive it as just techno. If you just play it through shitty speakers it honestly cuts out like 25% of th eMusic. You unfortunately need decent headphones to truly listen to them. I feel like that is why so few people "get" them. NOt because they're hard to understand, but because of the requirements needed to listen

>>70889117
Learn serialism before critiquing.

>>70887518
The need to be musicians first.

>>70892496
Serial keyboard is shit m8

Piano reached its limits with Debussy, Scriabin, Messiaen, Evans and Nancarrow

>>70892377
Its just tongue-in-cheek m8. Have some techno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FZLfmuLPo

>>70892738
I mean their discography as a whole. You cant even compare their post confield stuff to this. I love old autechre but theyre on a whole other level now

>>70892377
Nah it's just techno.

>>70887518
>I'm Karlheinz. He's Stockhausen

>>70892882
Reel it in bruv. They're not doing anything that hasn't already been explored. I love Autechre as much as you do but have some perspective.

>>70892929
I've listened to a lot of music. And I mean really listen. Not just vaguely listen as I do something else, and nothing has come close to what they are doing now. I'm not a closed minded person. I try to see everything in multiple perspectives. But if there's something I'm 100% certain in, is thatey have never stopped progressing. You cant tell me you've heard anything that sounds like confield and up.

>>70892929
Who else has explored sound design the same way? Or generative sequences like on Exai and elseq?

I'm not trying to argue it, I just don't know so I'm genuinely curious.

>>70887518
no. there will never be any karlheinz stockhausen ever again. stockhausen and the other german electronic musicians used homemade instruments to make music because it was new and had no previous connotations to other cultures and sounds, ie the typical electric guitar associated with american 60's psych rock. if someone wanted to be the new stockhausen, cluster, tangerine dream etc they would need to come up with a completely different way of making music. people like autechre and all the way back to aphex twin, acid house producers etc maybe picking up where stockhausen & his students left off, but not creating anything as groundbreaking and extreme as germans did from 1950's - 60's

Why is listening to autechre so addicting? It's like a drug, and not like most normie music, I mean the sounds and ding doogas simulate thousands, millions of micro orgasms in my brain.

>>70894911
You're normie for life.