/daily/ - FISH Makes a Thread Before Going to Class Edition

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are those #dubs?

>>70886337
No

>>>/trash/

make me a chart

>>70886341
shit...

lowermeme

new guy here
make me a chart

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>>70886463
>make me a chart
Anything else you need? : )

>>70886499
heck...
whered all the dolphins go tho

>>70886452
oh jeez
>>70886463
"no"

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>>70886463
>>70886365
don't spend it all at once

>>70886514
>whered all the dolphins go tho
Bears. It was the bears.

ooh nigga

its that time of the month, period time

Also unrelated, but name your favorite pop album

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RIP, fallen trip friends.

>Mississippi John Hurt - Long Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground
Quality stuff. Super affecting vocals, emotionally expressive guitar work. Anyone who thinks this early blues lacks complexity needs to hear this.

>Ramayana Monkey Chant
Crazy I didn't know about this. A crazy complex rhythmic work involving only 100+ vocalists. Pretty hypnotic. Like co said, some parts are more engaging than others.

Co moves on

>Swans - Blood Promise
No, no, no. This will get some of you riled up, but this was boring and pretentious. I can dig some Swans, and I'm not a guy to talk about crescendo-core being a meme, but this was totally one-note and unnecessary and without progression or even nuance. Let me know if you want me to keep going...

>Rise of the Northstar - Demonstrating My Saiya Style
This was surprisingly all right. Production was great, those drums sound pounding as hell. Vocals are way over the top unnecessary. This is the kind of thing that's so formulaic but pulls what it does off well.

Trans is back from the dead.

Send picks, y'all.

>>70886531
FCUK bears

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>>70886365
done.

>>70886535
the fuck is wrong with you good christ

>>70886565
My age starts with 2 instead of 1

>>70886582
"pretentious" is not a valid criticism tho

>>70886597
Of course it is. It means a sense of importance that overshadows value. Plus there's the rest of my criticism

>>70886632
im not gonna argue with you but you have bad taste

>>70886632
nah it just means you're cynical
>>70886535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0R7xFB2xc

>>70886535
If I'm gonna lose for Dark Was the Night it might as well be to Golden Rain not even mad. Good round.

Also I think that Swans review is phrased abysmally.

Any review on 4chan's /mu/'s /daily/ using the phrase "pretentious" is made illegitimate by existing in itself.

>>70886708
Give me a fucking break. You make a lame pick, I don't like it and list out all the reasons why (even offer to elaborate), your only rebuttal is "you have bad taste"? You see how productive this is? If you want to be remotely serious about music criticism, leave ego at the door and make some actual tangible arguments

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>>70886863
i told you i wasn't gonna argue with you my guy, my intention was to reground ourselves to the fact that this is 4chan's music board and there's nothing legitimate or serious going on here

though if you want to talk about tangible arguments, i would start by making some that don't involve buzzwords

>>70886860
Happy to elaborate, but "pretension doesn't exist" is a terrible new meme. Where did this come from?

Rock 'n Soul (1964) by Solomon Burke, recommended by Anonymous

This is a gorgeous package of R&B, soul, country, and gospel inflected songs performed with a glowing warmth and spirit. The selection is varied and a little hit and miss, but every tune is given heart. All are short and sweet, in some cases a little too much so, but the whole thing is worth listening through being bookended by the trembling 'Cry to Me' and a cover of Jim Reeves' 'He'll Have to Go' that spins it a whole another direction. Cheers to the anon who recommended this, it fills the '64 spot beautifully.

>>70887022
it's not that it just like i said has more to do with context, the listener's predisposition, her own ego, than any actual tangible quality of the music, except maybe lyrics
like any other attitude you may find in music it's just a question of, idk, empathy or willingness to accept it or something?
in a case like Liturgy call it "conviction" or "ambition", there now it's an upside

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>>70887236
fuck me daddy

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BTFO

>>70887326
how will /daily/ ever recover

>>70887261
What you described is at least what's become the trap of calling something pretentious--that it's all too easy to call any ambitious thing you don't like/understand pretentious (like Boyhood) because nobody can point to any concrete proof proving or disproving it. That would be an inappropriate use of the term. Now that doesn't mean it's not a real quality that can affect some works. Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music is a pretentious work of art. Supposedly he didn't even listen to it all before releasing it. Do you see how this is gives it an inflated sense of importance? Are we just supposed to ignore this quality in music because it's hard to talk about?

>>70887505
>>70887261
I think that pretension is an extension of the artist and not the art and that's were you and I disagree.

I also wouldn't even disagree that Swans are pretentious, but the idea that being pretentious is an inherently negative adjective or even relevant adjective when describing art is silly to me. It's 100% about the framing and almost never about the art. Think about what would've been called pretentious in the 70s, or hell, the 30s had that word been in popular use. Early jazz musicians literally called Bebop newcomers "hipsters" which I think is hilarious to think about now. The word had different meaning then but it's negative usage is in a similar manner.

It's 2015/16/17's version of saying "hipster" imo and not really constructive or relevant. Hell, I don't even care for that Blood Promise song hearing it now but I'm sticking by this.

Sorry if this reply has a lot of errors but I'm replying from mobile rn.

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>>70887505
>he didn't even listen to it all before releasing it. Do you see how this is gives it an inflated sense of importance?
'fraid not to be honest. you could for sure argue it's lazy and samey and assume that pretention is the cause of that like look im lou reed whatever i do is a masterpiece but it's not directly what makes a bad album

well these guys listened to it and paid tribute
sounds like an improv take on music for 18 musicians. it's pretty cool

>>70887814
Was replying to Transgod that I agree with him.

Also, Liturgy is 100% pretentious but their music is not because art can never be pretentious. "Liturgy did X because they were pretentious" would be fine but "Liturgy's art is pretentious" is not. Maybe to most people it means the same thing but for some reason I seems to care about this a lot.

*hampus voice*

BEGONE THOT

>>70887940
Laughed audibly to this

>>70887908
The thing is, by definition, pretension implies a lack of substance to support ambition. This is negative. Ambitious is not a criticism, pretentious is.

I was only using Metal Machine Music as an example, Trans. Don't really care about it, I assume the interpretation has more value than the original though.

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it's simple, we kill the batman

>>70888097
y'all replyin' to the wrong dude n shit gotdam -_-

>>70888174
now THIS is pretentious

>>70888097
which is why calling something pretentious is a completely empty assertion unless you can cite actual examples of the artist's self-important perception of his/her art (something that is rather difficult to do, given its almost never stated outright by the artists themselves) AND, if you make it that far, you actually pinpoint why the substance of the art comes short of that artist's perception

>>70888351
Again, you can read the rest of my review where I talk about reasons. If we only talk about art in empirical terms, we get not very far (and none of you want to talk about counterpoint and such anyway, let's be real)

>>70888225
you're pretentious

>>70888516
where the lie tho

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Still no real duds on this chart imo.

AZ - Doe or Die

I only really know AZ for his verse on Illmatic and his connections to The Firm but I still knew exactly what to expect. It’s basically what you’d expect from a East Coast/NY rapper in the 90’s. Grimy boom bap beats, heavy subject matter and some solid rhymes.

AZ has this soft, almost whispery flow that works exceptionally with the simple production. He doesn’t quite have the same bite as some MCs from the era - but I still love this style so much that it doesn’t really hurt him. It isn’t the most unique style I’ve ever heard, it reminds me a bit of Cormega, but it works. His lyricism is really solid as well, he raps in this tongue-twisting style that doesn’t sound forced. He’s almost nonchalant about rapping - which I’ve grown to love. I greatly prefer it to dudes who make a big deal about their lines.

Anyway, this is solid all throughout. AZ doesn’t have the personality or unique style to make it a classic but it’s enjoyable from front to back.

3.5/5

>>70887267
Are you doing this in any particular order? If not you should try Souvlaki next.

>>70888570
>only ten days until let my children hear music
MMMMMMMM

>>70888622
i meant nine

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>>70888622

>>70888622
>>70888664
I'm really looking forward to that one, I've heard great things! The whole jazz section is gonna be exciting.

>>70888728
boy is that pretentious

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>>70888766

one of those was mine.....

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>>70887908
>Maybe to most people it means the same thing but for some reason I seems to care about this a lot.
same. more than the actual definition i'm interested in what actually makes people close off from what they call pretentious (read: not necessarily what fits the definition perfectly) and stop taking it srsly (without having to resort to 2deep4u), and how you can suspend that cuz i jus' want peeps to keep an op'n mine about stuff like this but it's, ykno

>>70888766
>>70888728
what am i looking at

>>70888827
>what am i looking at
actually that's not the correct reaction at all

>>70888888
check em
and free ian watkins

ha ha... no way those sixes are mine, right...

>>70888888
benis

>>70888879
/mu/ is way slower than i remember...

Fuck it they are mine

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Raymond Scott - Manhattan Research, Inc
>Electronic, Space Age Pop, Fun

“It’s only 9:30 and I’m tired again - right down to my blood!”

Man, this is like Madlib’s wet dream, there’s so much for potential for sampling here. A bunch of little jingles and upbeat synth pieces, this is pretty much as easygoing as it gets. It exudes happiness man, it’s just irresistibly positive and happy-go-lucky. Basically possesses everything that makes this era of electronic music fun. This is just about as easy going as it gets. For the 50s and 60s this feels really ahead of its time, with Kraftwerk-esque instrumental cuts and such. “Rhythm Modulator”, “The Wild Piece” and “Night and Day” are all fucking out there for these decades so that was cool to hear. Also, “Limbo” was trippy as hell. Quite futuristic sounding as well.

That being said, the jingles, ads and infomercials start to get old kind of quickly. It’s cool to hear these novelty pieces at first, they’re so wholesome and positive. But the first disk is kind of packed with these things, as they’re more common than the actual instrumentals. Though it’s a compilation, it feels unnecessary to have so many of these snippets jammed into one listen. I can only hear about local auto and paper companies for so long before it gets obnoxious.

Anyway, it was still enjoyable, especially when it came to the instrumentals. I might return to the infomercial cuts if I were a producer but they were kind of a one-time listen in my mind. Certainly a cool concept and some great ideas though.

3/5

>>70886300
I only listen to popular music ironically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iijmj5nB6I

https://youtu.be/7eKv4BEujFU

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Spicy onions incoming.

>Paco de Lucia - Fuente y caudal

This is kind of a weird album, some tracks are solo guitar and some have a backing band or another guitar or people dancing/clapping/snapping in the background. The solo performances are a bit wanky and lacking in emotion, but the tracks that feature more people are boats of fun.

>Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam

Neo-psychedelia rarely sits well with me, and this isn't an exception. Most of this feels like it's trying way too hard to capture the surreal psychedelic feeling and the overbearing indieness gives me more of a headache than any of the noisiness. Sorry Fish-o.

s moves on

>Dirty Three - Ocean Songs

Pleasant, but dull. Not very memorable, the only track that sticks out in my memory is that cresendocore one early on. It works fine as background music I guess, but as far as active listening goes it's a chore. Post-rock is really not my thing.

>Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out

Nice and mellow late night music, it's like the musical equivalent of staying up too late to watch Seinfeld reruns. It's a bit long though, I think you could cut out twenty minutes and it would be the better for it. And the male vocalist gets on my nerves.

trip up owes me a rec

>>70889614
uh... that's not the right yo la tengo album but i actually like it more than painful so excellent

are there any second round restrictions

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>>70889614
>painful - 6
ok
>ocean song - 4
sure
>yerself is steam - 5
images cannot even begin to properly convey my anger

Also what is this rick astley post and how is it autoplaying like that?

>>70889614
i mean, it's fine that you admittedly don't care for two of the genres you're reviewing but
>trying way too hard to capture the surreal psychedelic feeling
like what else should they be doing?

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>>70889647

>Get three hours of sleep
>Look all over for the keys I have in my hands
>Forget to make a lunch
>Listen to the wrong album
>Look at the cover on the chart and still think I listened to the right album
>Then "review" the wrong album
>Dishonored my ancestors in a way that can only be cured by ritual suicide

fug :DDDDDD

I'll listen to the right album and score it correctly

But the second round rule is that it has to be under 100 ratings on RYM.

>>70889718

Explain the appeal to me, the only tracks I really liked were Syringe Mouth and Frittering

>>70889923
wait so i might not win darn

>>70889614
>>70889923
I would say it's very vaguely Neo-Psych and more noise-oriented pop. Maybe it's just not your thing, but I would at least give the opening track another listen, as the first time I heard it (granted it was a few years ago) was one of the most flooring and beautiful things ever.

>>70889974
>>70889923
fuck listening to Chasing a Bee right now and this is probably one of the most satisfying and textured pop songs ever made. And it's not even their best song (Something for Joey is xP )

I can totally see someone who is completely turned off by psychedelic music could be turned off by it though. Fair enough.

>>70890051
>textured
why did I use this word? I guess it makes sense in this context but it's not necessarily true. I like the layers in it but I retract this part. Everything else stands.

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>Roxy Music - Avalon
Pretty fuckin' lame desu. It sounds like poorly executed soft rock to me. However, the sax lines and synths are bomb.

>Oren Ambarchi - Hubris
I don't know how to express how I feel about this album, as I'm not that good of a writer, except for one word. Wow.


Trip up and Darklands owe me reccs

>>70889614
you are simultaneously the best and worst trip

Hey NKC I'm listening to that Freddie Hubbard album you posted about yesterday; solid stuff. The trumpet is amazing but you're right, the keyboard and drums together are also highly commendable. God bless

>>70890090

do you have an rym so i know what you like

>>70890090
sicc

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anna gardeck- bondage women
>death industrial, noise
so good. the obvious comparison is pharmakon, but gardeck is definitely better. really compelling, commanding rhythms and a satisfying variance in textures and sounds. the opera singing on the finale track was unexpected. that was interesting, but i'm not sure how well it worked. regardless, a great listen overall. recommended to fans of Pharmakon or anyone frustrated with the lack of structure to Noise albums.

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>>70890102
no, here's this chart instead

>>70889923
Where do I even start? I think I ought to just write a review

>>70890151
What happened to Idris Ackamoor? I loved We Be All Africans. :/

>>70890151
how far you've come
what have you heard from sissy spacek/john wiese?

if i have to see another video of tom bradys stupid kid dabbing im gonna set myself on fire

>>70890170

uh how about
townes van zandt - s/t

>as the first time I heard it (granted it was a few years ago) was one of the most flooring and beautiful things ever
In a way, I'm kind of sad not everyone has had this experience. The first time I heard Chasing a Bee and it got TOO fucking loud it destroyed me.

>>70890225

no, just Set Your Friends On Fire xd

>>70890208
you have to understand, nyar has some p bad taste unless it comes to matters of grindcore or indie pop

>>70890252
good rec

>>70890256
was this for me? Because idk if I would say I'm "sad" for someone that doesn't like something like I do, but I distinctly remember the first time I heard Chasing a Bee and it was insane to me.

>>70890284
lmao

============

on another note, have you checked out Tribo Massáhi - Estrelando Embaixador yet? I have a dl if you need it.

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>>70890273
I Would Set My Friends on Fire For You

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Sike! I have no friends!

>>70890208
The repetition wore me out fiercely. I don't think it's a strictly bad record, but the length and style quickly bored me, and just as quick annoyed me.

>>70890284
I need a really smarmy reaction image right now

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>corridor - le voyage éternel
bought this on a whim off bandcamp, and it kind of blew me away with how good it is. sounds like a poppier, french Women if they liked to hang out by the beach. the guitar work is, like all stuff in this style, angular and catchy, but where Women opted for noise, CORRIDOR like to dive into jangly indie-rock territory. great songs, great production, great poppy post-punk album. definitely check it out if you like women/telstar drugs/maybe even real estate

3.5+/5
>>70890415
i can be your friend

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>>70890415
sike!

>>70890213
I need to revisit sissy spacek. After I got into noisecore with deep jew, I tried sissy again but it still didn't quite click. Not sure who John weise is

>>70890415
is this aqam

>>70890447
john wiese is the band's frontman. he does mostly concrete stuff on his own. his 2015 record Deviate from Balance is amazing.

>>70890484
Noted, I'll look into it. Thanks

>>70890415
lol

Saw Moonlight, very gay

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>>70890769
thanks for the laugh, friend

>>70890301
I have not
would love a link though

>>70890978
FLAC or 320?

here's FLAC: https://i.slacktunes.tech/Tribo-Massahi-Estrelando-Embaixador/

here's 320: https://i.slacktunes.tech/Tribo-Massahi-Estrelando-Embaixador-320/

>>70890991
thanks!

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I collected all this information and i dunno what to do with it, does daily have suggestions?

>>70891129
listen to public strain instead

>>70891129
is an intentionally confusing post?

>>70891150
would i like this if i actually enjoy other post-punk revival?

>>70891183
i'd hope not..

>>70891214
not necessarily actually
if you like hazy/noisy pop songs with angular guitars, then yes
if not, go for twin fantasy

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Oh boy, time for a powertrip.

>>70889916

The psychedelic aspects of neo-psych always came across as inauthentic to me; the weirdness of the lyrics and track names feels more like an attempt to fit into the mold the word "psychedelic" contains than it does a natural part of their sound. The grating reverb laden noise and simple yet soothing melodies that Yerself Is Steam had were an interesting way to create its own identity, but I did not find it *that* interesting and other albums with similar premises have had more success, though I give Mercury Rev credit for being ahead of the trends.

Of course, I might just be fundamentally misunderstanding neo-psych in general.

>>70889966

It would have to be fairly bad for you to lose; however, there's a chance you might tie and then you would have to give an EP. And if the EPs tie, we will be in uncharted waters.

>>70890051

I quite enjoy more traditionally styled psych actually, but neo-psych fails to capture what I like about it. And I generally do not like the trends common in post-80s popular music.

>>70890090

I just say dumb shit that occasionally people take offense to, I can't compete with the people who work hard for that title.

>>70890186

Do it

>>70891129

Listen to them?

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/masekela/introducing_hedzoleh_soundz/ I'm bumping this to 4.5 stars; Any of you guys recently re-discovered a gem in your earlier listens?

>>70891129
>>70891214
Twin Fantasy is definitely my favorite thing on there then.

And I think most anyone in daily would tell you though that it'd be a crime to leave out Lil Ugly Mane's Uneven Compromise. It's one of the best hip hop releases of the 2010s, and far superior to, though much shorter than, Mista Thug Isolation (although Thug Isolation is also pretty essential).

>>70889912

The s4s janitor has special privileges that let him make special shitposts on other boards, supposedly

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>>70891129
i suggest you replace it with this

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hey... does anyone remember that tourney i was doing... well here's its current state...

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>>70891262
everything about that except "hazy" but I can work with it.

>>70891335
>Listen to them?
I have, some of them

>>70891423
that's an ep though. also one per artist, for no particularly good reason now i think about it

>>70891520
>the smile sessions recorded in the sixties
>modern classic
i will say i do prefer a lot of what's on there to what's here.

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>>70890422
here

>>70888970
i could definitely see how the length could be a detriment, i only listen to it as a whole very rarely.

and yeah, lib's a fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lujpKKqmCOo

dilla and el-p also sample from scott a lot, and i think danny brown has too.

>>70890093
oh nice! thank woolite for that, i listened to it bc i'm droning him. still glad you're digging it.

>>70890151
knew you'd like it, sicc record.

>>70891129
halcyon digest is super underrated by people around here, i fucking love that album.

>>70891656

Listen to the one's you haven't heard yet then? Isn't that why you made it?

>>70891765
not really. i just made it because i felt like charting out the stuff for no particular reason.

>>70891656
>that's an ep though
and?
come to think of it, TNGHT and Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites are mandatory for a list like that

I can't find this but does anyone know the RYM post I'm talking about?:

Some slightly-obscure album (I believe a tape??) was making it's bout around RYM and being praised for being "ahead of its time" when people discovered it was actually a decade or two younger than everyone thought it's ratings immediately dropped can someone help me out?

>>70891335
I love that pic

>The psychedelic aspects of neo-psych always came across as inauthentic to me
Have you ever considered why you give the label of authenticity to psych in the first place though? I would argue that a statement like that would make it seem to me that you give a false veil of authenticity to certain albums by their age and not necessarily their quality in some cases. Not trying to call you out or anything or say that this is exclusive to you, I would argue most of RYM is guilty of it, as am I at times.

I would argue most things tagged as "neo-psych" are pretty much just done so categorically by date of release, and not so much by musical qualities. I think it would be imp

Not hating on you just because you didn't like an album I do, I think chriggy gave it a 2 or something lmao.

Also, looking at your profile, you REALLY don't like anything after the 80s huh? Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'll just keep that in mind in future tournies I guess!

And pop =/ popular. If you wanna hear really bad Mercury Rev, you should hear their """breakthrough""" album Deserter's Songs that sucks a fat shit.

>>70891520
my gym teacher hated 1000 suns when it first came out and had a long rant about Linkin Park's "new album" in the middle of class when he was explaining the rules to wiffle ball. This memory will not go away.

>>70891784
and calculating the eps into that figure would have been 2much work

>>70891656
also
>the four seasons composed 18th century
>modern classic

>>70891790
>I think it would be imp
No idea why this got cut off. What I was trying to say was

I think it would be impossible to make a regular "psych" album today. Look at any artist that's pretty much just making regular modern psych-rock and it's just tagged as neo-psych just because it was made after the 90s. Shit is dumb and shows a lot of decade-favoritism on RYM's part.

>>70891847
>it's just tagged as neo-psych just because it was made after the 90s
what about the more revivalist artists like Ty Segall, Thee Oh Sees, and King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard? they're always tagged as psychedelic rock, and i think they've got a much more rock-based sound than bands like Tame Impala or Animal Collective, who are always tagged as neo-psych.

>>70891843
i figured since richter "recomposed" it that he effectively made it his own, unlike the smile sessions which are presented intact.

>>70891847
>Shit is dumb and shows a lot of decade-favoritism on RYM's part.
gentle reminder that we are on /mu/, but yes i think this may have been a motivator in my dumb charting expedition

>>70891591
>Miles Smiles a 6
like
lol
lmao
Ken
funny meme
kys yourself

>>70891949
i like miles better when he does cool fusion, and overall i just prefer crazy big band stuff to small ensemble jazz
smiles is good but a bit flat

>>70891892
Okay I you're correct about the usage of psych rock today. I think the point makes much more sense when discussing psych POP though, which I think would be a near-impossible-to-create genre today. There's very few exaples of albums that are psych pop on RYM's top charts for the past few decades that aren't also tagged as neo-psych just from virtue of age. However, I still think Neo-Psych was a buzzword created by snoody journalists which just says "psych music but more stuff" and is super undefinable.

>>70891900
>gentle reminder that we are on /mu/
I specifically was talking about RYM is that case though??

>>70891949
>kill yourself yourself
o no

>>70891591
That Mercury Rev album is gud

>>70892038
hell yeah it is

>>70892014
>Flat
explain before i kill you

>>70892111
are you gonna kill me whether i explain or not because explaining seems like a bad idea then...

>>70892023
yeah, definitely agree with you about neo-psych being a stupid genre name.

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>>70892014
>>70892111
>having opinions shamepai does not share
didn't we outlaw this months ago

>>70892163
i let you out of the hook with your 74 76 score
but watch your mouth kiddo
before It gets...
...ugly
>>70892138
ex
plain

>>70892014
DFT
delicious flat trumpeteer

>>70892194
it wasn't nearly as engaging as other post-bop or as pleasing as other modal stuff, never made me think "o shit yeah this is the jazz stuff"
>>70892206
pretty much

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>>70892237
u gay as shit
ded
ded ded demon dedededestruction
unleash the seal
now you are cursed
hope you change your ways

>>70892271
dont snail me, man,

146rd for anime is a sin

>>70892304
your existence is a sin
shit the fuck up

>>70891591
dope
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/pete_la_roca/basra/

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The first half of "Bad Timing" is the best part of this album. It's a simple bluesy guitar ditty that resonates with my soul. The fact that it's in C also communicates this feeling of childlike joy.

Considering the success of that piece, I assume that the rest of the album is made up of -highly- listenable failed experiments. It's solid, but I expect alot more from the genre, and Jim.

>>70892811
I'm excited to see what you think of Paêbirú; it's one of my favorite "true" psychedelic music records.

>>70892811
you've got a point, for a while some of the poppier, more chamber-esque elements didn't really resonate with me (until the whole album just fucking floored me one fateful listen). and the first piece will always be my favorite.

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>>70891758
Oh nice, I knew that sounded like a Madlib kinda sample.

>>70891758
>>70890093
>MFW people are talking about Red Clay

>>70892942
nice bune

yeah, Red Clay was a super good listen. You can definitely hear Hancock's hand in the record and it's actually better off for it, despite the meme-y-ness of Herbie Hancock the person

Fuck, Music von Harmonia is so good

>>70893086
helo sticky

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>>70893131
hi...................

>>70893157
anon,, donot read
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tripfags,, hello ;)

>>70893178
:0

>>70891790
>Some slightly-obscure album (I believe a tape??) was making it's bout around RYM and being praised for being "ahead of its time" when people discovered it was actually a decade or two younger than everyone thought it's ratings immediately dropped can someone help me out?
reminds me of this
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/jacula/in-cauda-semper-stat-venenum/

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oh shit

>Nicholas Collins - It Was a Dark and Stormy Night

What a pleasant surprise. I always thought that harsh audio clipping and glitches were in a different ballpark than orchestra, but this album convinces me otherwise. Collins merges the two like they were made for each other. Hell, tracks like Tobabo Fonio proves that the album's production holds up well on it's own. The final track was very thematic in it's own unique way.

I still have to digest this album, conceptually speaking. It threw alot at me and I'm just a guy who listens to No Wave records. Shit man, that whole "dark and stormy night" shit at the end simulated madness a bit too well. I mean it's fucking cool but damn.

>The Gerogerigegege - Hell Driver

Fantastic contemplative pieces, especially from the guys of "tokyo anal dynamite" fame. The real enjoyment comes when you apply your own frustrating life situations to the vauge but equally nihilistic drone tracks.

It's only flaws are in the spoken word bits. It sort of kills the feeling of isolation that it had going for it.

>>70893347
oh cool that's happening.
gald you're enjoying yourself so far.
don't expect something big from scuba. expect an okay synth pop record and be surprised if ya like it.

>>70892976
Glad you enjoyed it!

>meme-y-ness of Herbie Hancock the person

Not gonna lie, I know little about Herbie outside of his music. What makes him meme-y?

>>70893817
I guess Family Guy made him a meme or something? That's all I can recall.

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Review bump

Randy Weston - Blue Moses
>Progressive Big Band, Afro-Jazz

Given the absurd lineup and the genre tags, there’s no way this one wasn’t going to be good. Billy Cobham rips it up on the drums as always, Hubbard is terrific on the trumpet and Hubert Laws adds some nice touches on flute/piccolo. Oh and Weston himself adds some nice riffs, though he wasn’t as prevalent as I would’ve expected. There’s a nice bit of variety on this album, as the band flies through some heavy boppy stuff, dives into more funk and eventually tackles a more eastern style on the closer, “Marrakesh Blues”. It actually reminds me a bit of Blues and The Abstract Truth, though it isn’t quite as mellow or traditional, honestly.

The band does quite well on the two shorter tracks, “Ifrane” and “Night in Medina”, which are more traditional for the most part. Their ideas feel more concise and approachable on them - the musicians just trade off in solos in old school bop fashion. The solos themselves aren’t necessarily traditional though - “Night in Medina” has a little more of a freer feel at times. Though it doesn’t go too far at all - it just isn’t straight up hard bop or whatever.

The longer cuts are pretty killer as well. “Ganawa” has a nice funk feel to it, as the band gradually works their way up into a groove. The solos are increasingly entertaining, as Hubbard starts off fairly old school, Weston has a really bluesy/funky little cut and Laws adds some fantastic little flute work. It’s fun to hear the band trade off for so long, especially since there are so many of them - and they’re all fantastic musicians. “Marrakesh Blues” is the more eastern-influenced track, as there’s some chanting and some little off-kilter riffs. It’s maybe my least favorite on here but it still has fine moments and serves as the (vaguely) experimental track on here.

Tight all around, glad I checked it out.

3.5/5

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Deicide - Deicide (1990)
>death metal

Mid-tempo death metal that lays on the chugga-chugga and avoids pretty much everything else that makes death metal enjoyable. I like a lot of the effects on the guitar solos, and some of the riffs are good and nicely satanic, but the vocals are hilariously awful and pretty much every song follows the same exact structure, they all get old quickly. Decent, quick listen, but definitely nothing I'd ever return to again.

2.0+

>>70893849
>afro-anything
*hacker voice* I'm in

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>>70891790

Autism imminent:

The "golden age" of psychedelic music coincided with a more optimistic attitude for the future, where LSD would lead everyone to personal enlightenment and world peace was around the corner and racism was about to end. Then the 70s hit and everyone realized the world still sucked.

Psychedelics never really died, but the attitude towards them was never the same. They're mostly seen as escapist mood enhancers that might give creative people more ideas (though, obviously, there are still people who believe in the psychonaut philosophy). Most of the music in the mid-70s to the 90s with psychedelic influence was more nihilistic in nature, giving the music an edge of the more dadaist form of surrealism.

Most of the psychedelia music that emerged from the 90s onward (and what gets tagged with the vague "Neo-Psych") is somewhere in the middle where it has influences of both views of psychedelics as well as mixing in newer indie trends of that decade (i.e. "sincerity" got big, the tone of albums got more relaxed and mellow, lyrics focused on more innocent, mundane and relatable things, vocalists sing in a way that is closer to speaking, etc.) that are still very persistent today. However, I do not really think the attitudes and sounds of these eras mix very well together in practice, and it more often than not creates DUDE WEED LMAO messes. It's like dumping marinara sauce on ice cream; you might like those things individually, but together they do not work.

That's not to say I necessarily hate neo-psych as a whole, it's just that more often than not it's tagged to a particular sound I do not like.

I generally dislike the indie trends that emerged in the 90s, and unfortunately for me they appear to be here to stay. And they've only managed to become more irritating in the post-DFW world where new-new sincerity and post-irony wage war indefinitely.

I can spew more autism about why a lot of recent music does not appeal to me if you'd like.

>>70893991

That's not to say, of course, that there wasn't golden age psych that was darker in nature, though it was more reminiscent of a bad trip than the more nihilistic stuff that you would find in psychedelic influenced noise rock or post-punk.

Lmao at this Jandek tribute which is actually an opening show for Fahey by thurston moore
http://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/songs-we-taught-the-lord-vol-1/

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Black Moon - Enta da Stage (1993)
>east coast hip hop, boom bap, hardcore hip hop

The beats are really great. It's got that raw, grimy Wu-Tang/Eric B.-esque and the full, jazzy Tribe Called Quest sound, and both of these styles play off each other perfectly. Sometimes they share the same track, sometimes they both trade duties, but no matter what both of them are done incredibly well. On the other hand, I'm definitely let down by the MCs. They're not terrible, just really unmemorable and the only lyrics that stick out don't do so in an incredibly positive manner. Still a really solid album.

3.0-

>>70893849
i knew you'd like that!

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>>70893991
>I can spew more autism about why a lot of recent music does not appeal to me if you'd like.
Yes, please

On a slightly different note, I like how many of you tripfriends here are very well-spoken and -informed. I think that's the reason I keep — and will keep — coming to these threads.

Have a bunny

>>70894067
this one too hehe
http://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/songs-we-taught-the-lord-vol-2/

>>70894080
NKC you and Woolite are two of my fav posters here. Would you mind terribly if I gave you a chart of brazilian music to listen to?

whats your favorite video game? :)

>>70894126
Left 4 Dead 2, my friend :)

>>70893883
I remember liking Deicide when I was like 15. Now, I can't listen to them without cringing at the vocals. Almost sounds like satire.

>>70894080
Agree on the production, it's a nice mesh between the classic NY styles. Definitely disagree about the MCs though. 5FT is pretty average but Buckshot has such a cool raspy, Busta-like flow. He's one of my favorites.

Glad you at least enjoyed it though!

>>70894123
Thanks :) Was that question directed at the both of us or just Nat?

>>70894283
both :)

and it'll probably end up being a mix of American/African/Brazilian rare groove in the end

>>70894123
aw thanks! and no, of course not, I love Brazilian music.

>>70894192
the vocals are what stuck out, they're awful.

>>70894283
buckshot was pretty cool, you're right with that Busta comparison.

>>70894126
Shadow of the Colossus is the GOAT, I remember being awestruck when I first discovered it. Though I can play NBA 2K pretty much endlessly.

>>70894299
I'm down, can't promise that it'll get done very quickly though. I've already got a calendar and Nat's drone to finish up

>>70893991
Fair enough. I also don't really like a lot of sounds that are associated with the advent of the 90s.

Would honestly like to hear thoughts on why you dislike all modern music as a whole though.

>>70894126
Mother 3

>>70894364
No worries, so long as you take a look at it, I'll be fine

>>70894323
see >>70894299; it's not gonna be ALL brazilian music ;)

>>70894126
that mario party minigame where u eat the pizza

>>70894126
Silent Hill 2 duh

>>70894126
yoshi's island is prob my #1, but I also really love bully and super scribblenauts. and I still have a soft spot for guitar hero III

>>70894405
well I'm still excited to go through it!

>>70894126
Dark Souls :)

>>70894094

My issue with the sincerity obsession and the desire to avoid pretentiousness is that it misses the point of itself. It's sort of paradoxical, like how bands that want to be punk aren't really punk. I do agree with the concept that the world has gotten too post-modern for its own good, but there's not very many artists out there that really make the twee thing work. Twee started as a bunch of kids playing off-kilter music because they didn't know better and wanted to have fun, but it's evolved into Burgercore bullshit where everyone's competing to be as sugary and sincere as possible. I can only tolerate so many lo-fi ukulele driven songs about petting cats.

When vaporwave and the whole post-ironic trend started up a few years ago, I liked the concept of using overly commercial music samples against themselves as a form of satire against materialism, but the whole thing ended up falling in on itself by giving too much focus to the 90s mall aesthetic. That's not to say it was a total failure of a movement like some people claim, some notably catchy songs came out of it and I like some of the ambient stuff.

Another problem I have is that the internet killed the concept of scenes. Back in the 70s and 80s, if you went to LA, Cleveland. Washington DC and NYC, you would find they were all extremely different with their own sound, and influences only traveled with tape magazines and people themselves. With the advent of the internet however, things are pretty samey across the board. It's good that people can see new ideas easily, but it means that things are very homogeneous and you can't just look somewhere else to see hear new sounds.

>>70894126

It's not quite a video game in the traditional sense, but Kojima's Snatcher is one of my favorites.

>>70894391

I don't think modern music in inherently bad, I just don't think today is a very good environment for the kind of thing I like. For plenty of people, today is absolutely perfect. And that's fine.

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> like how bands that want to be punk aren't really punk

I wholeheartedly agree; in trying to become something, sometimes one goes farther away from that thing.

> the internet killed the concept of scenes

Kind of, if only because "scenes" used to be these tight-knit groups of people centered around a label or a venue, or even each other. The point of these scenes was mutual support which is kind of enhanced by the Internet, but the side-effect of these tight-knit groups is a kind of insular effect that is very much negated by the internet. I agree though, the Scene has been killed in the most part by the Internet.

>>70894583
>>70894364
peep this, brodies

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>>70894733
fuck I uploaded the draft; here you go.

Also anyone can listen to these, not just NKC or Woolite. If anyone needs a FLAC of any of these albums, I can hook you up.

>>70894588
>It's good that people can see new ideas easily, but it means that things are very homogeneous and you can't just look somewhere else to see hear new sounds.
For a while now I've maintained a pet theory that music has and will continue to become more average, but that average will increase, for two reasons:

1) There's a lot of great music behind us. We're undeniably coming off the tail end of perhaps the single most important period of innovation for and reinvention of western culture, and especially its art. Knowing this, it's simply harder for artists to successfully innovate. I'm not exactly doomsaying, all "all the good music is in the past" but it is undoubtedly more difficult, by example, to make amazing unique music.

2) Artists know music history better than anyone, save for critics. Tying in with you ideas about the internet, it's easier than ever to be a /daily/-type voracious listener and absorb all kind of amazing musical influences. By incorporating any number of great musical ideas, aspiring artists can easily make their music higher quality.

So in my little pet theory, there's two effects: history making it harder for artists to make comparatively uniquely amazing music, and history informing artists to make better music.

Together they continually raise the average quality of music while reducing outliers.

Of course, this is operating under the assumption that I am accurately sampling modern music, as opposed to music of the past which has been pre-selected for me, to an extent. It could be that the 'great filter' between me and amazing modern music lies not with the artist but with the modern critic, as the selector, or me, as the critical consumer.

>>70894094
haha oh wow lol

>>70894912
Sweet dude, thanks. Heard a few on here already but I really dug them. I'll DL this and see if I can start working on it sometime later in the month!

>>70894733

I was about to say, scenes aren't enitrely dead - Tuva is apparently having a revival of interest in overtone singing and are mixing it with more modern sounds, Denmark has the experimental electronics, I've heard Brooklyn is having a revival of jazz and funk or something, Italy has that occult psychedelia thing, Finland has Memphis Rap (!), etc.

>>70894936

I agree that some of the issue we have when we see modern music as inferior is that we do not get the lens of hindsight to look through when looking for things. What the critics of the 80s thought would be remembered is far different from what we actually remember.

I love to look through old labels I find interesting and find cool things that might be passed over, and there are infinitely many blogspots dedicated to pretty much everything you could think of with music handpicked by long time fans. So the music older music we can actually find is often of an unusually high quality, while if you sift through bandcamp for new stuff you will find maybe one good to great album every 50 or so (this is also a result of consumer electronics making digital music production accessible to everyone who owns a MIDI and can pirate a good studio). And things like soulseek and private trackers means you can find pretty much every album you see mentioned easily in every bitrate you might want, so I think that discovering something new isn't quite as exciting as it is when you fish an obscure cassette out of a used bin at a record store.

This easy access to music has definitely made it so that many artists are less trying to set themselves apart from the crowd and more do what is established, like how Iceage likes to copy a different established post-punk artist every so often. And since labels now know what sells, they take less risks - even labels that see themselves as avant-garde like Posh Isolation and Sacred Bones pick the safest options.

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>>70893991
>I generally dislike the indie trends that emerged in the 90s
Mind elaborating on this a bit? Unless that's what you were talking about in >>70894588? I generally like 90s indie rock, so I'm just curious.


>>70894588
And since you brought up so many interesting ideas in this post...

>My issue with the sincerity obsession and the desire to avoid pretentiousness is that it misses the point of itself.
So I'm a little confused what your definition of "new sincerity" is, since that seems to be what you're referring to here? Not trying to nitpick, again, just genuinely curious, because it's such an interesting topic to me. Is it the DFW definition?

See, I think I follow you. I generally enjoy genuine music, or "raw" music. Even if I don't enjoy the sound of it, I definitely respect genuineness. (i.e. Daniel Johnston will sometimes rub me the wrong way to the point of unlistenability, but I still "enjoy" the music, or at least the intention.) Consequently, if I perceive an artist as deliberately attempting sincerity, it feels like I'm being targeted or taken advantage of as the consumer, and I resent that.

I am also painfully aware of how much of a tightrope act this is. For example, I believe Sufjan Stevens is actually writing heartfelt songs about his mother's death. However, he displays a very similar compassion when singing about Chicago, his connections with which I cannot imagine are anywhere near those with his mother. One is probably genuine, the other is probably "new sincerity", or "acting"—for lack of a better word.
>implying that most recorded artistry is not a form of acting
Regardless, bottom line is it's hard to tell a lot of the time. Same with Jeff Mangum. I honestly can't figure out if that guy is genuinely crazy and passionate about his content, or just tries really hard, and is in hiding because he's afraid the world will realize he's just a normal dude or something, shattering the illusion of the crazy artist.

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>>70895163
Well, to build off that idea a bit with another idea I've had for a while:

Virtually everything you've ever heard was been selected for you, in some way, by someone. Unless you're randomly hopping around bandcamp or following the random artist link on RYM, there's been some filter (in art criticism terms, I guess that filter'd effectively be "the critic" of this situation). (Not you specifically, obviously—the royal "you" or whatever.)

So that's kind of what I mean by "selected", with more and more selection applied to older records or more popular records.

>So the music older music we can actually find is often of an unusually high quality
yeah, no kidding

Also fuck Iceage. That band is boring af, and I really wasn't buying what they were selling.

>>70895300
And this post literally just devolved into rambling, whatever

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Listened to some good shit the past couple days

>E2-E4
Really good concept and execution, I just think there isn't enough content for it to warrant an hour runtime
6

>Autobahn
I liked this a lot more than the other Kraftwerk albums I've heard. Every track here was at the very least solid.
7

>The Lounge Lizards
I wasn't too fond of this on my first listen, but everything clicked for me on the second. Really engaging no-wave jazz fusion from start to finish.
7

>Musik von Harmonia
This album felt like a journey, and I don't use that metaphor often. I want more ambient krautrock in my life.
8

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I hope someone appreciates this Carlos, ERASMO... graphic I made for the next /daily/

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>>70895163
Actually, following up my last post, I guess the rise of algorithmic recommendations, the idea of music spread being a purely inter-personal deal gets kinda hairy

also kind of intriguing

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>>70895484
wait I fucked up

>>70895556
u didin't get quads but i'll let it pass 4 now...

>>70895577
thanks

ps nice numbers ;0

>>70895590
PS: This is what part of the alphabet would look like if you took out Q and R

>>70895646
:0

>>70895646
:0

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What does you're week look like, /daily/?

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>>70895300

I generally don't really like vocalists that are intentionally monotonous and mellow (with some exceptions, obviously), nor am I big fan of the depressive yet mundane or innocent twee lyrics. I'm not huge on the wall of sound inspired walls of reverby guitar noise that is prevalent either; things like Loveless pull it off but most Shoegaze/Noise Pop/etc. is just cheesy. I am just generally not a big fan of "giant walls of noisy guitars but the singer sounds bored". As for post-rock, it started off promising but it just gradually got worse. Talk Talk's last two albums are still masterpieces, of course, and I have soft spot for some GY!BE.

I'm not quite referring to new sincerity as DFW saw and more of how many people misinterpret the idea. I'm speaking more of things like the alt-lit movement where they end up becoming pretentious in an attempt to avoid being pretentious - often by being very direct and intentionally dull and stream-of-consciousness-esque . I think that's my issue with a lot of things that fancy themselves as indie, really.

Think of Apple commercials where they play the generic indie folk songs with the ukuleles, xylophones, finger snapping and generic "whoo-hoos!" while well dressed people in urban environments pose with the product. That's the kind of thing I'm referring to, and the trend that just won't die. The sort of thing that really wants to make you think that it's down to Earth, the things that really want you to relate to it to the extent that it becomes somewhat manipulative.

I have a similar problem with Sufjan's stuff and most sad indie things, because I feel like all the sad songs are written like they're cue cards saying "This is the part where you cry." It's like musical Oscarbait. I like Suffy just fine of course, but it does bother me as well. Many modern "sad albums" feel like they're desperately trying to catch the honest despair people like Nick Drake had.

I'm rambling now, I'll go to bed.

>>70895556

Nice.

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>>70895945
This Coup album is so funky, Jesus. Potential ramble review coming tomorrow. Great week overall.

Nice DOOM and Cocteau Twins by the way. I haven't heard either of those Kuti albums but I imagine they're probably pretty tight.

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>>70895945
Been a pretty stressful couple of days for me culminating in me staying up late tonight to finish an essay. I fell asleep somewhere in the middle of the almost 2.5 hour behemoth More Weather so i'm gonna have to relisten to it. From what i heard thought it's really good.

>>70895994
>I have a similar problem with Sufjan's stuff and most sad indie things, because I feel like all the sad songs are written like they're cue cards saying "This is the part where you cry." It's like musical Oscarbait. I like Suffy just fine of course, but it does bother me as well. Many modern "sad albums" feel like they're desperately trying to catch the honest despair people like Nick Drake had.
You are your own problem though. You'll never like any modern music because you'll always be able to associate them with someone who came earlier. Why stop with Nick Drake? Didn't he just rip off Phil Ochs? And didn't he just recreate things established by Guthrie? You could go on to fucking Cavemen banging on rocks dude.

And the artists aren't even similar. Does Drake own the emotion of sad??? If I went out and made a sad song today would you think it was a Nick Drake rip off?

I mean at first I was lenient but this logic is so fucked. Of course you'll never like newer music if you've already decided it was bad before it even made a sound. It's totally fine but I find this line of thinking completely irrational.

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Does anyone else have the issue of constantly feeling like they know very, very little about music? I think it's related to the Dunning Kruger effect (I might have got the name wrong), but the more I learn about music the more ignorant I feel.

>>70896073
Also, from an aesthetic standpoint, this might be one of the grossest collages I've seen. Everything clashes in the worst way possible. It actually kind of stresses me out.

>>70896201
I feel like it's related to how spread out people's tastes on /daily/ are. Instead of really diving in to one specific genre/time period people in these threads generally know a little about a lot of things. If your talking about theory stuff, even though i've played multiple instruments for years and taken theory classes i still feel like a dumbass who barely knows anything.

>>70896124
You seem like exceptionally mellow. Your collages alway seem to have the calmest shoegaze/post-rock stuff, I swear.

Am I right? Or is it just this week?

>>70896201
absolutely. I'm taking a jazz-theory/history class rn and I sorta surprised myself how much I already knew about some of the music/musicians (obviously not everything), but even with that, the more I venture into the theory aspect of it the more of a fucking idiot I feel. I definitely feel heavy Dunning-Kruger when I go on RYM and find a massive genre and I'm like "the fuck is this?" and every album on the chart has thousands of ratings.

>>70896375
I'm a huge fan of how artists make use of empty space and how large they make the listening environment sound if that makes sense. In general i prefer slow burning brooding stuff as opposed to fast paced hype music.

>>70896201
Nah, I feel the same way. I'm constantly in this weird middle ground where my friends think I know a lot about music but I feel like a totally pleb on here. Maybe I know a decent amount about music but there's way too many people who know way more than me.

>>70896167
>>70895994
I got too emotional here and my response looks childish and dumb reading it now but I guess all I can say is I strongly disagree!

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>>70896167
If there's anything I've learned about music history is that everybody's a hack

Chuck Berry got his guitar licks from Sister Rosetta Tharpe and his rhythms from blues and latin music, Beefheart's just a misshapen pile of electric blues and free jazz influences, Reed and Cale were just jacking off the La Monte Young drone shit, who was just jacking off to eastern influences,
>the list can go on...

>>70896201
Never. I know everything about music

>>70896451
Huh, that's really cool, I know exactly what you're taking about. Only got into that style within the past year or two but I definitely appreciate it. I think I'm kind of the opposite for the most part though, so it's always cool to see someone with such different tastes/preferences.

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>>70896451
I bet u like Beat then

>>70896621
Yeah there's so much damn music out there so it's really neat how everyone can find their specific niche that they gel with. I actually haven't heard a single album off your collage for this week. I really should give Radiohead a listen cause i think i would like it. I've somehow managed to avoid all of their records even though i've been browsing /mu/ for 2 years.
>>70896673
It's on the chart i'm working through right now and i'm excited for it.

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>>70895945
I suggest you don't ask how Ceca got onto there

Good week though. The Tomokawa album was amazing!

>>70896714
damn, hurry up

>>70896714
Yeah, I agree, one of the coolest parts of daily is definitely seeing everyone's unique preferences.

>I actually haven't heard a single album off your collage for this week.

I think you'd appreciate Kid A, especially considering how much you like more ambient music. If you wanna get into Radiohead, maybe start with OKC though, it's a nice segue into their stuff.

Thee More Shallows is also some nice slowcore that seems right up your alley.

>>70896794
I'll listen to it tomorrow just for you.
>>70896840
Thanks for the recs. I'll definitely check out Thee More Shallows when i get the chance. I'm just pretty slow at listening to new stuff cause i don't like to be distracted at all for first time listens.

>>70896840
I'd argue that going chronologically with Radiohead adds some perspective to how little time it took them to go from Creep to Kid A.

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Finally made a chart of favorite 2000s albums, like my 2010s chart. I noticed that a lot of my favorite albums from the 2000s are archival, but I still left those out. Apparently a lot fewer EPs than the 2010s chart too

Also post favorite 2000s albums


>>70896714
>I actually haven't heard a single album off your collage for this week.
would highly rec ayahuasca, and Kid A
>>70896915
no, just for YOU ;^)
>>70896840
going through an artist's discography chronologically is underrated

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Listened to 11 albums in the past few days. Gonna talk about four I liked. Should be finishing everything up this week probably.

BACKWARDS :S

>Françoise Hardy - La Question
Enjoyed the pop/bossa nova elements FAR more than I did any of the orchestrations. Which were, to me, just super empty and served seemingly already complete songs pretty much zero. Even though it was just okay, I still think it's worth a mention.
6

>Michael Girl - Drainland
A mix of some of the best neofolk ever written and some really useless industrial pieces in the middle. Even so, tracks like "Where Does Your Body Begin?", "Why I Ate My Wife", and "Unreal" make the experience more than worth it. "Blind" is honestly probably one of the best songs Gira has ever written.
7

>Parenthetical Girls - Entanglements
For some, I would imagine a lot of these arrangements would get a little old, or perhaps the singer's voice would come across as gawdy or overly-theatrical, but goddamn this really clicked with me at parts. I do concede that at times it felt needlessly over-orchestrated, but the near-spastic and attention to detail and variation between tracks is something really do be admired. Definitely won't be for everyone, but if you want some really well-orchestrated and variable orchestral pop, this is some of the best out there.

>LaSalle Quartett - Neue Wiener Schule: Die Streichquartette
Stunning and beautiful. Probably one of the most rewarding music experiences out there. I think the only thing keeping me from giving this a 10 is the fact that I don't feel like I grasp the intricacies/theory/methods 100% without visual aids, more study, etc. Probably one of the few classical comps I'd consider for a 10.
9

Which reminds me...

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I've selected 25 albums that I've seen or listened to again and thought to myself "Wait, why isn't this a 10?" Basically the "close, but no cigar" albums that I couldn't off the top of my head come up with any obvious flaws. I'll be doing this in conjunction with my next chart, but it will be much slower and concentrated. I'll probably only get around to doing a few a week if that. I'll be forcing myself to have the reviews to be more in-depth, probably spanning the 2000 character-limit or perhaps more!

Not sure what rating system I'll use, but it will most likely be
>Not as good as I remember
>Good as I remember, not a 10
>10

Who /hype/? Anything in particular any of you would want to see reviewed first?

>>70897172
fuck parenthetical girls is an 8 btw :3

>>70897172
hell yeah welcome to Wienertown, fish

Schoenberg and co are really amazing, there's some beautiful moments on there

>>70897184
that chart is too real, dude

>>70897184
>tuxedomoon
that'd be because its bad m8

>>70897172
drainland is best gira

>>70889614
I though this at first as well, it ok, was risk

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>>70895945
I've only listened to Heaven or Las Vegas and some of MM... Food from here but a lotta this stuff looks neat.
>>70896073
What is the best song on the Bedwetter meme and why is it Haze of Interference
>>70896124
Damn dude I hope yer stress level decreases soon.
>>70896720
How is that J U N K O)))

>>70897758
Basically it's good that there is a side of Hijokaidan next to it, but Junko's part could've been more "over the top".

tfw it was supposed to snow as fuck but it just rained instead

>>70894126
good score good riddance bad timing being anything but a somewhat good album is a meme

>>70892811
Morrowind or Thief 2

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>>70898467
tfw it was supposed to just rain a little and instead got a storm
JUST

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Van Morrison - Moondance
>Singer/Songwriter, Folk Rock, Soul, R&B

Hey they weren’t kidding when they said Moondance was way different from Astral Weeks. It’s like night and day honestly—or, if I can wax cheesy poetic for a sec, Astral Weeks would the lackadaisical day while Moondance would be the sorta sexy night.

I say “sorta sexy” because, as RYM “”review””er BlankScreen so poignantly described, “Listening to this [album] is like trying to have sex without an erection.” It really is a bit limp dick sexy. Like, Van here works in healthy but mild doses of blues, soul, R&B, and jazz and plenty of sensuous lyricism, but it never amounts to much. It’s still just so soft. It really can’t compete with even an old classic blues sound, let alone an urban blues sound—forget about trying to head off against a real soul or R&B sound.

Like, I’ve heard sexier gospel music, to be honest.

Now that I’m done roasting the man, though, this is a pretty great record. It’s not quite the free, jazzy folk rock of Astral Weeks, but I suppose I should give up on those comparisons. It’s actually even lighter. Supposedly Van himself did the production, which is why everything seems to sound barely too quiet no matter what volume it’s played at.

>cont.

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As for the songs, there are definitely a few standouts. Actually, the four best tracks are just about in a row: The gently rocking and swinging title track is definitely one of the album’s best. It’s one of those songs where the verses and bridges are nearly as good as the chorus. It has a really groovy bass line, and the rhythm is really jazzy. Though I do really love how the sax, the bass, and Van’s vocals all swell and swing in time for the chorus. “Crazy Love” is a gentle little melody, and again the lyrics are a lot more sexually charged than the accompanying music. It’s fun though, and I think just about everything has heard this song in a movie or something. It’s one of those types of deals. “Caravan” actually is the most forceful-sounding track on here, and it really has a satisfying flare for the chorus. “Into the Mystic” is my personal favorite from the album. It starts out pretty unassumingly, with Van doing a bit of a call and response with various instruments as he spins a mundane tale about life—but then those buzzing strings come in and his voice peaks into a yelp and then those pretty pretty horns come in—it’s just so quaint.

And the rest is honestly unremarkable, literally. It’s all very cozy though, so as far as cohesive atmosphere goes, Moondance has that in spades. I can see why it’s a classic.

7+/10

>>70898467
>>70898608
It snowed a bunch overnight, and now it's 6am here and the plows haven't been out just yet but there are a few cars out and they're all creepin slow af

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Sorry if the review was a bit incoherent btw, coming off an all-nighter rn

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>>70895945
last month

>>70896124
this seems like a good week
esp songs: ohia
that 7% solution album is nice too
>>70896201
>Does anyone else have the issue of constantly feeling like they know very, very little about music?
yeah but that's just because i don't

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second matchup of round 1 of my post-hiatus tourney

>Boris - Pink
holy shit was this thing an all-out aural assault on my ears. shit was fucking banging from top to goddamn bottom i loved it so much. sounded like rough sex with someone you intensely hate but also find incredibly attractive. definitely going to work out to this.
favorite tracks: farewell, blackout, just abandoned myself (that outro is the afterglow, feels so good)
8 or i love this shit ~

>Ozma - Rock and Roll Part Three
this sounds exactly like pinkerton-era b-sides, complete with synths. i didn't like this much at first, but further into the first listen and on relisten it was just incredibly enjoyable and fun. vocalist and lyrics i like less than rivers' endearing patheticness, but it's still a great ride nonetheless.
favorite tracks: domino effect, natalie portman, battlescars
8/10 or i love this shit -

fuck if pink wasn't pink nat would've won this shit for sure. i'm deep into the weezer meme but fish got this one.

>>70896201
absolutely, but that's because i'm just an idiot who knows jackshit about music. i know enough to know what i don't like, and barely enough to know what i like. thats about it

>>70894912
awesome, thanks! I'll go through this soon

>>70899416
I knew pink would kill me
glad you liked Ozma though!

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>>70895945
posting my week too
looking forward to that erasmo carlos record now

>>70896073
what is the best song on bedwetter and why is it man wearing a helmet

>>70897184
daikanjyo please what a record

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please rec some albums y'all think i'd like. bonus points for good vibes.

>>70899696
valium aggelein - hier kommt der schwarze mond

>>70898411
sounds interesting

love me some good over the top noise mems tho
>>70898960
hi

long time no see, meme girl
>>70899474
what'd you think of Pres & Teddy
>>70899696
Maybe try some Cloudberry Jam or Eggstone? They're not exactly the same as yer usual indeh but worth a shot, lad.

check these songs out, lad

Cloudberry Jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88zO206zrCk

Eggstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzzw5fNAumw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGQu9iu5f_0 (this song is from an album I consider to be just good but I love this tune)

>>70899696
Ever listened to Davis' In a Silent Way? I've found that people who like Future Days and the Necks seem to like it, even when they aren't big on jazz

>>70899696
injury reserve - floss
labradford - mi media naranja
the radio dept - running out of love
byrne-eno - my life in the bush of ghosts
rabit and dedekind cut - r&d
wire - chairs missing

off my board albumist scum
>>70899710
>>70899710
>>70899710

>>70899813
floss is cool af, will check out the others
>>70899790
>>70899789
>>70899754
thanks bruhs

>>70899820
what a boring little protest

>>70899820
combat albumism more like come in my bumism

>>70899833
yeah I love it. btw amnesia scanner s/t is their best work by far if you've not heard it yet.

>>70899859
cardigans - life

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>Virgina Astley - From Gardens Where We Feel Secure
Almost a really really good ambient record cept on half the tracks the one extra step towards New Age propels things from a Brian Eno goes Thoreau sort of deal as present during the highs to muh buttahflies and burdies and tacky piano lines territory without any fo the sincerity present on the better cuts. First 2 and the last 3 tracks are very good, recc'd for fans of cozy forests and cozy forest sounds.

>>70899696
Solid Space - Space Museum

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>>70899789
>hi
pic related
>>70899696
jessamine - don't stay too long
dean roberts - be mine tonight
new radiant storm king - singular, no article
14 iced bears - hold on

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Souvlaki (1993) by Souldive, recommended by ImposterTuco

There are duller records out there, though they might not have the same determinedly catatonic stylings of Souvlaki. Actually one can see how this would go down pretty well given the right circumstances, mood, sound system, none of which I have on my person, but even after close listening it's hard to call more than two or three songs anything other than mediocre. Disappointing, or perhaps I'm just disappointed.

Does anybody have a favourite 1993 selection for next time around?

>>70900260
ps this was exactly the kind of thing I wanted, representative of its time etc, even if I didn't enjoy it so thanks anyway

>>70900290
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/le-concert-des-nations-jordi-savall/water-music-music-for-the-royal-fireworks/

>>70899833
yo when you give the tracks a listen, would you mind givin' me yer onion

p curious as to what you'd think of em

ace Swede memes desu
>>70900067
fucc you got me good
>>70900260
hey could ya do Samulnori next

>>70900315
i was planning on giving all the recced albums a listen anyway, but I'll give your songs a spin

>>70900314
no classical see >>70900290 sorry

>>70900315
ok

>>70898724
R E K T

>>70900359
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/a-tribe-called-quest/midnight-marauders/
or if you've heard it
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/wu-tang-clan/enter-the-wu-tang-36-chambers/

>>70900359
oh if you didn't want any sort of classycool I guess you should remove Samulnori since it's Korean trad

here are some essentials that might interest you instead so you could just pick one that you haven't heard:

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/megadeth/rust-in-peace/

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/depeche_mode/violator/

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/sun-city-girls/torch-of-the-mystics/

you've probably heard em tho I guess

>>70900315
in general a bit too much lounge influence for my tastes, it tends to make music sound a bit...fake? idk, it's the same thing that makes me kinda wary of a lot of Stereolab. the first Eggstone song was nice though, i'll be checking out the album. the great vocal melody really ties together the otherwise kinda wacky chord progression in a really natural way.

>>70900418
ok! thanks

>>70900481
for arbitrary reasons I'm fine with non-classical trad apparently

>>70900500
from what I've read about samulnori they're hardly 'traditional' music anyway iirc

>>70900485
o damn ok

yeh I'm a lounge boi so that's part of what I enjoy about the stuff

glad you liked Taramsalata tho
>>70900500
hmm alright then

hope you enjoy

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>>70895945
did you like angels rig more cause of the memes or the music?
if music then try heterocetera by lotic, maybe furiosa by kablam, obv the AS ep, and if you'll like lotic check rabit's communion.

>>70900537
(none of these have good vibes btw)

>>70900548
good moods equal bad tunes

>>70900608
only the sith deal in absolutes

>>70900537
thx 4 rex, what'd you think of the new AS mixtape?
>>70900608
i used to think that
WHEN I WAS 12

seriously tho, listening to too much depressing music really impacts your mood. i just wanna be comfy rn

>>70900625
from my point of view the jedi are evil

>>70900649
check out >>70899943

>>70900649
my rec is mad comfy

>tfw it's been a month or two since I started last tourney and haven't continued because "X" is long
should I skip it and just listen to some other memes first which would mess up the order of it all but whatever

tho I should probably finish the 8 man trad tourney I started fucking months ago

>>70900649
I'm a fan of these grimey post-industrial type things and they make it really dancey and stuff, so thought it was great, esp Crust and Want It
I thought the tracks don't have as much development as i'd expect and would benefit a lot in a mix but oh eh well

>>70900649
oh you mean Truth, ive only listened to the track so far, it was ok

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>>70895945
normal
props for still repping PW

remember i mentioned i was supposed to do a presentation wellll i fucked up hard and got excluded from the exam. it's not a course in my main subject so it's not that bad but desu it's getting more and more clear i have absolutely no interest in my main subject (information science)

>>70896124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUJYwaKrUMw !!

>>70898960
asa chang & junray is some of the coolest trishcore

>>70899820
>singles
i raise you these dubs

>>70900537
i like angels rig because of the memes to be honest
blanche's interesting but then again they're just garage fiery furnaces

>>70900756
gotta admit the memes elevate it to another level
hey at least i could it through blanche lmao
i'll try ff sometime in the future again

didn't you hate altar of plagues? maybe im confusing something

i put the "me" in "meme" (the second one)

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>>70900756
not pictured: brumel's earthquake mass for 12 voices
i liked it mostly because i thought adding some horns was a really good idea because strictly vocal music usually feels a bit too austere for me, dunno why, it's just not what i'm used to. even if they just accentuate some of the vocal lines ykno like keyboards on any ol' metal album

>>70900809
hadn't listened to it in a long ass time but i definitely used to think it was kinda disappointing

>>70900888
me on the left

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>>70900888
i put the u in tomb
>but u's nowhere in tomb
but soon

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>>70901117
thank

Having a snow day as an adult rules because you don't have to make it up at the end of the year like in grade school because the year never ends

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>>70895945
gotta check some of these my MSN
>>70896073
i need some Memphis shit man, rec me some
>>70896124
the cover of All About Satellites is dope
>>70900756
gonna listen to that Mindless Selfindulgence

>>70897758
Definitely up there, I say it's the second best

>>70899474
Man Wearing a Helmet feels like the big standout, you're right.

>>70901230
For sure, I'll hit you up with some recs in a bit

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How come the best Duster album isn't a Duster album? This is fucking great, taking the slower, more abstract moments from Stratosphere and developing them into a bunch of slow-burning, nocturnal sounding tracks. Sometimes it drags a bit, but it's great mood music.

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>>70895945
Got a very full semester so I'm pretty much eternally in minimalism study mode.

>>70901595
glad you liked it, don't think it's better than stratosphere tho

>>70886535
>Mississippi John Hurt
Is l no one gonna call this out??
Smdh

>>70895458
>I want more ambient Krautrock
Listen to Cluster 71 and Cluster II!
They're made by one half of Harmonia