Paul Joseph Watson Is A Pop Culture Pleb STINKPIECE

>>70884259
the bald melon

what's the tl;dw don't want to give my time to either of these autists

>>70884259
Definitely Anthony.

His delivery and points are a lot better than Paul.

Seriously. Holy fuck. Why the fuck is Paul's script delivery so bad??

>POPULAH..... CULTA.....IS MOHR....

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>pop culture

>>70884259
The Melon won

im not sure if i hate pjw or the melon more

>>70884349

Paul Joseph: pop culture is ruining society, there is no counter-culture left, fuck post modernism, vulgarity in songs is bad.

Fantano: pop culture doesn't ruin humanity and certainly doesn't fuel terrorism, chill the fuck out, you think Marilyn Manson's vulgarity is acceptable but dismiss Miley Cyrus' vulgarity on stage etc.

Pretty basic stuff, that Paul guy is just an alt-right fag yelling braindead bullshit over and over again.

Fantano is way more rational, also has better script.

Pjw unironically believes in George Soros conspiracy theories.

>>70884259
Sorry for unsubbing anthony.

>>70884349
Paul doesn't know anything about pop culture and thinks Hopsin is actually good. Basically he is a person who says all music sucks today.

>>70884427
pjw unironically believes in chemtrails fluoride and cultural marxism

>>70884259
altcucks BTFO

I'm not watching that video but Watson is one of the more retarded trolls on the internet so it's safe to assume Melon will win this round.

>>70884361
MAINSTREEAM METOER SJW

I can't wait for PJW to make a reply video. At least a fucking tweet. Pretty please.

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>at a coffee shop
>an ADOREBLE gurI wolks in
>my PEENUS becomes stiff and I staht tah feel like BILL CLINTOHN
>SOOPAH MALE VITALUHTY kicks in so I get the cohredge tah TOLK tah her
>can't fink of somethin tah say
>"OI! Did yew know NOINETY FOH PASENT of peeple don't trost the MAYNE-STREEM MEATIER"
>she looks confused so I tolk moh loudly
>"DID YEW KNOW MAIKUL MOH IS A SAG OF SHIT"
>IMAJUN MY SHOCK whin she stahts to roon away
>"OI! ROONIN AWAY FROM ME IS NOT A LEHJITIMUT FOHM OF PROW-TEST YEW UTTAH FOOKIN MOW-RON"
>that fill wun no GEE-EFF

anthony, paul whateverthefuck is a pol and alt-right meme.

im pretty conservative but Paul Joseph Watson just fucking annoys me, especially with his terrible voice. (im a brit btw)

why can't the alt-right have one single normal credible person to represent them?

and why do they embrace people like alex jones and milo etc etc? don't they realise how counter-productive that is?

>>70884259
Unfortunately the melon. I agree more with PJWs viewpoint but sometimes he's straight out dumb and just talks out of his ass. I'd argue that this nihilistic art movement should still be criticized (for the same reasons Nietzsche criticized it). Just look at how the suicide rate amongst young men has skyrocketed in the latest years. I'm pretty sure the meaninglessness presented in these songs have contibuted to the detriment of happiness amongst this generation. Tried talking about it on /pol; but there's just ad hominem and strawman there, those people are fucking deluded

>>70884501
>why can't the alt-right have one single normal credible person to represent them?
Stefan Molyneux

>>70884501
alex jones and milo aren't alt-right though

>>70884501
>why can't the alt-right have one single normal credible person to represent them?
that answers its own question

>>70884523
He's way worse

>>70884501
Ben Shapiro

It's funny how despite not liking sjws, Anthony has made it clear that he doesn't like the right either, just by making fun of people like Milo Y, Stephen Crowder and now pjw.

>>70884259
I'm just glad somebody tore this /pol/ a new asshole.

>>70884501
How can a movement with hardly anything credible to say have anyone credible to represent them?

>>70884501
first of all, it's a meaningless buzz-word that vaguely refers to everyone that doesn't agree with the current western narrative of extreme liberalism, and frankly, anarchism.

more than half of the world would be 'alt-right' by that criteria.

>>70884478
DA MAY-STREAM METEOR

>>70884501
richard spencer

oh wait...

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>defending Modern Art

>>70884584
it's legit a thing. im sure if you googled it you would find pwj talking about the alt-right

>>70884558
Ben Shapiro hates the alt-right

>>70884611
>PWJ talking about Alt-Right

bruh

I agree with Fantano on this point, but it should be said that Fantano is a *huge* proponent of the Gish Gallop, and only about 20% of this deluge of arguments actually go to the substance of PJW's arguments.

>>70884597
I bet your idea of art is cookie tins and realistic pencil sketches

>>70884626
Beats you taking a giant shit on a canvas and say its about starving kids in Africa

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>>70884632
>yeah I get so much out of this it challenges everything I believe in makes me feel so fuzzy :3

>>70884455
>troll
I'm pretty sure he genuinly believes the shit he says. He looks so convincingly angry in his videos.

>>70884611
no it isn't. some retards chose to adapt it because they think they are 'counter-culture' or something.

most americans and europeans support trumps travel ban. i hate to meme, but the mainstream media are just a bunch of delusional commies now. they don't report what the people want but what they think the people should want.

alt-right is just another term for despicable, someone that doesn't agree with the current immigration policies, which is more than half of the western world.

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>>70884683

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>>70884484
>im pretty conservative

>>70884632
Are you projecting your racist and conservative mind onto others?

>>70884423
Sup Anthony

>>70884259
I'm really glad someone in this particular circle of the internet stepped up and called Paul Joseph Watson out.

Everything is becoming such an echo-chamber and since Anthony is outspoken against SJWs he often gets lumped in as part of this fucking insane movement that is happening now.

These populist mouth breathers like Paul and his cuck followers deserve nothing more than to be made fun of for their absolutely idiotic beliefs.

>>70884717
That's actually pretty good.

>>70884259
PJW is basically just every /pol/tard talking point but with a pretty face to make them seem more impressionable. Take that away and it's literally *autistic screeching*.

>>70884763
It was so good, it got thrown away

>>70884701
>I hate to meme
I really doubt that you do, looking at what you wrote.

>>70884259
Legends say Pauls parents disowned him after he got rekt this hard

>>70884701
>most americans and europeans support trumps travel ban
no they dont

>but the mainstream media are just a bunch of delusional commies now
red scare red scare red scare

>>70884774
>and then it made the news
>and then you noticed
>and then you shared a photo of it
>and now we're talking about it
>and about what constitutes art

seems to me like the piece was successful

>>70884774
You're right. Not everyone is mature and educated enough to be able to appreciate art like this.

>>70884771
>pretty face
You're kidding right? Dude has the most punchable face I have ever seen.

>>70884259
Paul is often reasonable on most topics, but his involvement with infowars and Alex Jones is a red flag. His video about global warming is embarrassing to say the least. However, choosing Kanye West as a representation of someone who has authenticity is alone to disregard his video completely.

>>70884504
>people kill themselves because of shitty pop music
You people are so fucking sheltered, have you actually talked to another normal human being once?

>>70884803
Communist detected.
Kill youself now before you die from hunger

>>70884857
nice redscare

go back to pol baby

>>70884361
POLULAH CULCHURE IS JUST WRONG

>>70884818
>talking about how it got thrown away because it looks shit, and laughed on the internet
>successful

>>70884853
Is alone enough to*

>>70884568
It's called being centrist ffs.

>>70884803
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/01/americans-support-donald-trumps-immigration-ban-oppose-poll/
> red scare

i didn't mean it literally. it's undeniable that they are extremely biased towards democrats and liberals after the election results anon.

>>70884787
i do. most liberals get lumped into the 'sjw' group when they are not. it happens to both. alt-right is a silly term, just as 'sjw' is retarded and could mean anyone that is socially active.

>>70884856
>>people kill themselves because of shitty pop music
Nice strawman.
It's not shitty pop music. It's the nihilistic movement (including music) that pushes people not to look for purpose and meaning in their life, therefore leaving a vaccuum in their existence. If you don't think meaninglessness leads to depression then you're plain fucking stupid

>>70884701
Donald Trump passed the travel ban knowing it wouldn't pass Constitutional muster. The reason is because then, when a terrorist attack occurs in Brussels or Dublin or some shit, he can go "see America, I told you so, but all this government bureaucracy tied my hands."

It's all about optics and political pandering. But even in that respect, Trump failed, because his travel ban has contributed greatly to Iran's influence in the Middle East and drastically reduced the ability of the United States to have influence in the region, leading to de-stabilization.

This has been, according to foreign policy experts in both parties, a disastrously failed publicity stunt, and Trump will be privately attempting to walk back the effects of his blunder over the course of the next few months while he publicly rails against a system he's depending on to stop him.

You are a rube if you thing the travel ban was intelligent. A rube.

>>70884523
:^)

I guess I kind of agree with Paul on the narcissism part, and how TV really is conditioning youths negatively, as much as we like to believe that people can adequately distinguish fact from fiction. But the whole part on music and "all post-modernism is cancer" was just stupid. This ranks as the stupidest video he's done next to the one on depression.

>>70884925
pop music is the product of this generational malaise you're referring to, not the cause of it

>>70884364
kek

>>70884885
I'm just saying, most of the folks in that "those darn sjws" YouTube crowd don't have the balls to call out the people on the right as well.

>>70884935
>to have influence in the region, leading to de-stabilization.

Nigga where the fuck have you been since 2001

>>70884876
Seems a hell of a lot more successful to me than say, a very realistic painting of a bowl of oranges that someone probably painted last year that none of us have heard of because people just went "oh that's nice I guess" and moved on.

>>70884717
>the twin towers

MILEY CYRUS IS RUINING WESTERN CULTAH

>>70884983
>if you get your art thrown away and laughed at, you win

>>70884977
>the region was already destabilized
>implying it can't get worse

it can always get worse

and it is now worse

directly because of a travel ban that was never meant to make it past the Supreme Court

>>70884965
Which is why I like guys like Ben Shapiro

>>70884996
yes

>if your art provokes attention and a reaction, you win
>if your art provokes a shrug and silence, you lose

>>70885032
>you will be forever remembered in the annals in the history of art as the loser who made a fucking trash can that got thrown away

What an honor

>>70884940
What did he say about depression?

>>70884935
i agree with it in terms of it being a middle finger to the muslim world. because honestly fuck everyone that supports sharia law (which is an overwhelming percentage of muslims).

but i disagree with it because, like you said, it will never work, it gives isis and commie organizations more ammo, it turns moderate conservatives against him, etc., etc...
all in all i wish he would have just implemented a tougher vetting process for those people.

but fact is that most people in the western world don't think that far and they agree that islam is only bringing unrest and chaos to their countries, which it is. maybe they will be encouraged to take action by voting the right people in europe, and that is a good thing to me.

>>70884857
>not being a communist on /mu/
Back to /pol/ you go. Music has always been, and always will be a socialist movement.

>>70885050
You seem really mad.

Even his edgy fans didn't like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcZCZkekxxg

>>70885122
this one is even worse... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsnqhUuYoFo

>>70885112
Not an argument

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>>70884427
>Soros conspiracy theories.

hmmmm......

>>70885051
"Depression wasn't even talked about 50 years ago" is just once of the nonsensical claims he makes throughout the video. He does make some valid points that many people act "depressed" for attention - fair enough. But then he goes out on a limb saying that there should be a stigma around depression, just as there is a stigma around obesity, and that depression doesn't really exist (and when the people with actual clinical depression in the comments claimed otherwise, he backpedaled with "of course I didn't mean THAT kind of depression). You get the idea.

Discussing politics on the internet was a mistake. Nothing is fun anymore, anything has to be a self-righteous circlejerk

>>70884259
main points made:

>"pomo critical theorists are undermining western culture" is wrong because it's like talking about jews and reptilians
>"there hasn't been an honest movement in music in the past 25 years" is wrong because of grunge and gangster rap and an assortment of various bands
>"there is no counterculture" is a bad point because the internet has blended culture together so much there's no longer just one mainstream culture vs one counterculture but everyone can consume the media they want with no barriers
>"postmodern art is ugly" is wrong because the urinal piece was brilliant trolling/shitposting and also the beatles had postmodern influence, and you should judge a movement on its best products and not what it makes when it goes overboard due to popularity
>"tv is shit" is wrong because of breaking bad, got, stranger things, other popular shows, and you can just avoid bad reality tv if you want
>"miley cyrus is an example of vulgar degeneracy" is a bad point because marilyn manson was more vulgar
>"western cultural degeneracy gives our enemies a justification for destroying us" is the dumbest thing pjw has ever said because you might as well say they're justified in destroying us if a gay person writes a song about being gay or a woman writes a movie about going to the grocery store

>>70884423
Not an argument

>>70884501
Because alt-right is shattered movement that is not united

>>70885169
what a fucking loser

>>70884436
How is life being a meme?

>>70884885
>>70884568
Centrists are cowards

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>>70885161

Why is Elizabeth Warren cuddling up to Billionaires?? I thought she hated them and shit.

Isn't that her entire shtick?

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>>70885122
>>70885144
Triggered special snowflake spotted

>>70885308
>idubz
this is an 18+ website

>>70885308
get an opinion or a personality instead of hiding behind memes

>>70885169
lolwut. Depression has been discussed since the fucking Greeks. The Anatomy of Melancholy was written in 1638. Does PJW do any research before publishing his shitheap videos?

>>70885285
>centrists are the last reasonable focus group in a sea of lazy narcissistic dumbasses that can't feed themselves

fixed this for you.

>>70885285
>hurr durr just blindly pick a side you coward
Kill yourself.

>>70885285
Apathetic centrism is for cowards and plebs, but radical centrism is the true redpill

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>>70885093

>>70885334
>>70885339
You do realise he was making fun of faggots like you with that meme

Depression is a meme, do something with your life instead

>>70885308
>TRIGGERED XDDD
>SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE XDDDDD
>2017

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>>70885256
>movement that is not united


It never was united, which is why it is uncontrollable and impossible to manipulate by outside forces (like the media). Part of the reason why it worked and Trump won.

Once a movement unites it can be very easily fucked with.

>>70885389
>radical centerism
What would that be? Shouting that everybody on every side is wrong?

>>70885389
>radical centrism
Like Pat Condell?

>>70885419
Damn you're butthurt

>>70885417
Do you unironically call things in your everyday life "memes"? Have you had to explain this to people in real life?

>>70884259
They are both pretty right. Alt-right that is.... BOYAH!

Seriously, Paul has a good point on degeneracy of popular music, it is passing on garbage ideas to young impressionable and stupid kids but he views it in such a narrow, subjective scope obviously clouded in his own record collections fumes.

>>70884338
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>>70884384
>>70884423
you don't review the video, you are just explain it

>>70885435
No that's called being apolitical. Centrism is all about forming your own, balanced opinions based on experience and your knowledge of relationships with other people. Like, you know, what people do when they aren't angry, sweaty, rejected teenagers who need some easy gratification.

>>70885299
He's a board member of the Open Society Foundation, which I'm guessing is why.
>>70885161
How is Soros any different than the Kochs?

>>70884259
Paul Watson has impressively feminine facial features.

>>70885146
>you will be forever remembered in the annals in the history of art as the loser who made a fucking trash can that got thrown away
Here's your argument;
The artist of the piece doesn't care for your definition of artistic success. In his (and many other's minds), he is more honorable and has more artistic integrity than the millions of people out there making boring, photo-realistic artpieces. He doesn't want to be seen as a drab, but technically skilled artist, but rather as a contemporary artist who gets people talking. He certainly achieved that goal, don't you think?

The artist is certainly more succesful than you, since you haven't ever had single thing displayed in a gallery. Nobody appreciates, or even talks about your art, shouldn't that tell you something?

>>70884504
You really don't know anything about music if you think people are suiciding to Stockhausen and Glass.
>>70884632
You're 14-18 years old

>>70885412
>whiteboy finally gets it
Thank you

>>70885593
>boldfaure
i havent read that name........in years.....

>>70885015
Ben Shapiro is totally conservative though.

>>70884259
how can somebody even take paul joseph watson seriously on any topic? why the fuck is every right-wing youtuber a fucking nut? can somebody please tell me any conservative or right-wing youtuber that delivers topics in a factual well-reasoned manner?

>>70885549
I guess its better to be the next Joseph Stalin than a nobody.

>>70885605
Yeah because /mu/ has been stagnant so I don't come here anymore.

>>70884349
Far right skinhead music reviewer and avant-garde meme maker Anthony Fantano reviews a pro-philistinism video review of popular culture by alt-right everyman Paul Joseph Watson.
Literally a review of a review.

>Hopson has the mentality of a 14 tear-old atheist
What did Christiantony mean by this?

I'm surprised that more people aren't coming against PJW here. I thought there'd be some poseurcore leftovers.

>>70885721
the RYM kiddie club probably doesn't visit the countless daily /pol/ bait threads anymore. Stupid tripfag.

>>70885652
Well, Joseph Stalin certainly thought so. He achieved his own (and millions of other people's) idea of success.

By the way, why do kids always compare things they don't like or understand to violent dictators?

>>70885549
>equating the art version of 15 mintues of fame as a faggot who got his trash artwork trashed as an accomplishment to something Picasso tier
kek

>>70885593
Not an argument

>>70884727
are you?

>>70885772
>He achieved his own (and millions of other people's) idea of success.
He also achieved millions of peoples deaths

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>>70885417
BREAKING NEWS - BRILLIANT HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN NEUROLOGIST CURES DEPRESSION BY CALLING IT A MEME

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>>70885523
>How is Soros any different than the Kochs?

Soros worked for the SS in ww2, hunting out jews for deportation to the camps.

He openly admits it in news interviews. Look on youtube.

>>70885772
Yeah those gulags are pretty successful among public opinion.

>>70885783
>equating the art version of 15 mintues of fame as a faggot who got his trash artwork trashed as an accomplishment to something Picasso tier
No, that's you projecting your own thoughts. I know you don't know a lot about art, so I'm not surprised that you think every contemporary artist is trying to rip off Picasso.

>>70885849
Said by the faggot who projected his own thoughts of what an artist is

>>70884945
not that anon but it's more of a cyclical thing where the culture helps a social disease spread

>>70885144
This video is mainly demonstrable fact
>>70885122
This is wrong
>the myth that depression is a chemical imbalance
what the fuck is he talking about

>>70885822
And your point is? Le trash can man didn't kill millions of people.
Sure, there were tons of people who didn't like his art piece, but why does that matter? There's no universally liked piece of art and there never will be.

>>70885693
Hopsins preachiest moments are literally like being talked down to by somebody with still-developing self awareness and outlook on the world

>>70884501
Are you serious?

Because their movement is just the latest fucking retarded recirculation of fascism in a long history of fascist movements. Fascism is a political philosophy that really only appeals to people who are disturbed in one way or another. Looking at someone like Alex Jones it's clearer than with most people, as he is actually batshit fucking insane and paranoid to the point of being clinically mentally ill, but like the shadow of a platonic form, all alt-righters have have an element of insanity in their belief system.
It's not hard to find basic contradictions in the beliefs that underpin the alt-right world-view, so It's clear to see that it requires a fair amount of delusion, self-deception, and most importantly projection of one's own failings and inadequacies onto others (usually refugees, liberals and leftists) to believe this stuff. Consequently, it should be no surprise that the figureheads of the alt-right, who must be far more convinced of it than the average member are particularly insane.

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POST PJW MEMES

>>70885937
Why does it bother you that people don't like this kind of art? If you are going to make something that was meant to be bad, why prevent people from having that opinion?

>>70886019
i just noticed he has a map on his wall fucking lmao

>>70886019
fucking kek

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>>70886019

>>70886019
Can someone please make a Mark Dice version of one of these?

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>>70885976
>the figureheads
But there are no figureheads.

The left absolutely wishes it did have figureheads, so they could attack something.......but there are none. There are literally 100 threads a day attacking Spencer, Milo etc on the other board. Always have been.

These "figureheads" are just grabbing some cash and attention.

>>70885836
Most people would say that being the leader of one of the most powerful political parties to ever have existed as being succesful, Similarly, a lot people would call Trump successful, even though he's one of the most hated people in America.

>>70885937
>make shit art
>virtually everyone hates it
>ignore your shit artistic credit by thinking youre a special snowflake
>wont matter because you'll be the only person who liked it

>>70884717
>tee hee I posted a single disconfirming example to a general point.

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>>70886019

at least put some effort into making it funny holy shit 1/10

There's something despicable about the alt-right crowd shaking their first at the detachment of a postmodern culture and art. Once again, as always with this crowd, the inability to self reflect is astounding.

What better way is there to describe the rise of Trump than with postmodernism? It was if anything the first postmodern presidential campaign, at least if we're speaking in terms of the online movement. What is at the absolute core of the_donald, /pol/ and other right-wing echo-chambers? Detachment.

>>70886115
it's pretty funny. youre just pissed off somebody finds your favourite reactionary vlogger embarrassing

>>70884523
lol

>>70884259
>Paul Joseph Watson
literally who

>>70885869
>faggot
Are you sure you're not a little bit mad?
By the way, what I did wasn't projecting. That's called sharing an opinion.

You saying that I'm comparing him to Picasso is projecting, as you're projecting your own thoughts into my argument. I never brought up Picasso.

>>70886076
literally milo, spencer, bannon, pjw, jones, farage, the list could go on and on...
all of them are fucking batshit

>>70884478
Kek. Someone cap this.

>>70886170
s'already a pasta m8

>>70884501
Everyone associated with the alt right had their own agenda, and most are driven by money/fame.
A literal faggot playing a character is seen as an alt right "cultural commentator".
No one on the alt right sincerely believes that they are positively impacting the world except Alex Jones, who is probably mentally ill.

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>Says degeneracy isn't real
>While being representative of degeneracy himself

Wew lad.

>>70886083
>shit artistic credit
>only person who liked it

>gets people discussing
>gets gallery spots
Alright, buddy.

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>>70886168
>literally milo, spencer, bannon, pjw, jones, farage, the list could go on and on...

so you got BTFO and now you've just widened the net to basically "anyone who is on the right and in the news" LMAO

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"SOCIETY HASN'T GOTTEN WORSE!"

>While giving good reviews to albums about being a tranny, something that didn't exist 20 years ago.

>>70886224
>get your own work thrown away for looking like trash
>get laughed at by everyone outside of your shitty circlejerk
lmao

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Mainstream webcomics literally feature characters shitpushing trannies and that's considered a "good thing"

>>70886151
You projected what an artist is or should be literally the post before you started sperging out with the word by the way

Probably because you are a faggot and you don't have an argument other than calling someone mad or getting triggered over a word, faggot

>>70886023
What? It doesn't bother me that you don't like it. I never argued (or even implied) against that. Art is subjective and you can like whatever you like.

What I'm arguing is that the artist certainly reached his own and a lot of other people's ideas of success. What I'm arguing is that not everyone shares your idea of success.

>>70886257
>While giving good reviews to albums about being a tranny, something that didn't exist 20 years ago.
imagine being this clueless

>>70886302
QUICK
SOMEONE POST THE CLEVER GIRL MEMES

>>70884523
God. This guy is much more pathetic. He's an actor.

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>>70886302
>webcomics
>mainstream

>>70886257
>In Mesopotamian mythology, among the earliest written records of humanity, there are references to types of people who are not men and not women

>>70886432
And where are the Mesopotamians?

>>70886140
THE MAINE STREEM MEATIER

>>70886261
Damn bro, that's pretty sad. That wasn't me. Learn to keep up in threads if you're gonna sperg out like that.

>Probably because you are a faggot and you don't have an argument other than calling someone mad or getting triggered over a word, faggot
You yourself don't have an argument other than calling someone a faggot or getting triggered over contemporary art.

>>70886257
New York Dolls, you fucking retard.

Neither. The jews control pop culture and media

TUH MAYNE STREEM METEOR

>>70886486
The New York Dolls just dressed in drag to piss people off, it wasn't to transition into another gender

>>70886261
>>70886483
Whoops, wrong reply. Sorry bout that, anon.
Was meant for this >>70886314 guy.

>>70886483
>NO U

k

>>70886170
retard

>>70886247
just because /pol/ is a bunch of backstabbing little sissies doesn't mean the alt-right is on some Guy Fawkes shit. Shitty meme btw, could you please go back to the year 2015 where it came from and stay there?

>>70886200
Degenerate because he's got a black girlfriend?
That's disgustingly racist, anon.
>>70886247
No.
Angela Merkel, Theresa May, David Cameron, Peter Hitchins, John McCain to name a few are all on the right, but none of them are alt-right.
So no, I named a few people who are widely regarded as being inspirational or a symbolic figurehead of a movement that is the alt-right. To me, you appear to be accusing me of incorrectly identifying the alt-right and hence to attack me for doing so. I should first remark that I contend I have not done that, and that a strong link exists between all the people I mentioned:
Breitbart news refers to Spencer as an intellectual: "The media empire of the modern-day alternative right coalesced around Richard Spencer during his editorship of Taki’s Magazine. In 2010, Spencer founded AlternativeRight.com, which would become a center of alt-right thought."
source : http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/
Note, the article is co-written by Milo Yiannopolis, a senior editor of breitbart news.
Bannon was the executive chair of Breitbart news.
Farage regularly writes for Breitbart: source: www.breitbart.com/author/nigel-farage/

Paul Joseph Watson writes for Infowars.com and has praised Breitbart:
https://twitter.com/prisonplanet/status/765223855245893632
Alex Jones owns Infowars.com

All these people are very clearly closely related and writing similar things for similar publications. They all have a similar views. Their views are clearly distinct from the traditional conservatism who the UK conservative party and the German CDU are emblematic of.

>>70885202
So much this, politics poison fucking everything

>>70886503
>drag culture has nothing to do with it
The hate on trannies on this website is just a product of Gamer Gate and the weird need of /v/ to attack small, unknown as fuck web comic artists.

>>70886302
So this is what happened to Kevin.

>>70886319
Not everyone is in agreement what successful is.

>>70886512
Are you ready to discuss this like a normal, mentally-stable adult?

>>70886095
Not an argument. Modern art is objectively shit and there's nothing you can do about it other than cry about it, you little post-modernist fuckface.

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>>70886571
The hate comes from actually knowing what they're like

>>70886603
So we do agree? Do you also think that people should live up to their own, and their loved ones, standards of success, instead of living up to the standards of internet strangers?

>>70886571
RuPaul's Drag Race makes me feel homophobic as a bisexual man

>>70884722
>the tolerant left

>>70886730
Here's what I don't get:
I like modern art and contemporary art in general.
There's some modern art I don't like and some I do like, accounting for personal taste.
That's just what I like, you see.
But if I see a film I don't like, but a friend does like it I don't say to them "this film is objectively shit and there's nothing you can do about it other than cry about it you little bad-taste fuckface".
It doesn't bother me that someone else likes something I dislike. I don't think that the film is objectively bad, I just acknowledge I don't like it, won't watch it again and move on.
So why is it that it bothers you so much that people like modern art?
No one is forcing you to go to modern/contemporary art galleries. There's nothing stopping you going to art galleries and looking at older paintings and sculpture. I just don't understand why it should elicit such violent emotions as to bring you to post this.
So please explain to me why you don't just say "I don't like this" and move on.

I just want to listen to music

>>70886200
Hi 1950!
>>70886553
This guy has a good point.
Alt right may not be a defined political party but there's a definite presence of vocal pack leaders.
And fittingly the pack is being led by a literal neo nazi, a shitty online publication specializing in slanted and poorly researched journalism (led by/formerly led by two people who are incapable of acting rationally or being decent himan beings), fucking INFO WARS of all things, which is a legit tinhat insanity fear mongering machine, and all of these people and organizations are sucking off the cock of their favorite politician who doesn't actually give a shit about them and is being manipulated by the conservatives and by big business anyway.

The Alt-Right is one of the most pitiful "movements" in history. A knee-jerk reaction to a changing social landscape made by hardline conservatives to try to push everything back a couple of decades.
I'm not saying that "the SJW" types are perfect examples of how we should act but for fucks sake why do we have to be assholes and politically ignorant if we aren't an "SJW"?

>>70886826
no one is describing themselves as tolerant.
I for one am not tolerant of intolerance.
"Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them." - Karl Popper

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>>70886730
>tfw you realize all art is objectively meaningless
>tfw you realize art is killing the productivity of humanity

>>70886840
Get out

>>70886302
Who cares? I don't and neither should you.
I think hating people is bad. Obviously you don't.

>>70886861
So you don't tolerate cuckservatives because you believe they are intolerant?
Well, power to you then, tolerance is for cucks and for privileged kids who think they know real social issues.
But I disagree with you IF you think all conservacucks are intolerant.

>>70886838
You're either lying or so deeply autistic that you shouldn't even feel the urge to respond to posts on an imageboard.

>>70885530
ikr i would like to penetrate his boy pussy if you know what i mean

>>70886913
All non-communists are sociopaths. This has been proven time and time again.

>>70885976
nice meme

>>70886755
Retard, fat weebs on internet forums have never and will never represent anything close to a normal slice of the population. That person is gross because they're a fat weeb, not because they're trans

>>70886921
Lying about what? That I enjoy modern/contemporary art?
If that's what you're referring to, what motivation could I possibly have for lying about that?

>>70886964
This.

>>70886127
detachment from what?

>>70886950
Oh well, now you've lost me.

>>70886969
Stop responding. It's bait.

>>70886856
>The Alt-Right is one of the most pitiful "movements" in history. A knee-jerk reaction to a changing social landscape made by hardline conservatives to try to push everything back a couple of decades.

how dare those white people fight for their beliefs. they should just go with the flow. it's 2017, whites are irrelevant

>>70884501
Because anybody who bases their identity off of their politics is a fucking idiot who will blindly embrace any person who reinforces their beliefs. Normal conservatives I know are pretty cool, normal liberals I know are pretty cool. The faggot with a twitter account with Pepe as his profile pic is a fucking loser. The guy telling me I'm a piece of shit for not liking the new Ghostbusters is a fucking loser.

hey anthony non melon man thanks for making this video i fuckin hate that cunt how can u watch his shit for entertainment seriously

>>70887100
I'm white and don't believe in anything the alt right does. That's such a non argument that i can't believe that you even tried.
Like what about the alt right has anything to do with being white, other than that most of them happen to be racist?

>>70887100
Hahaha, you really believe this shit, don't you?

>>70884504
I saw that there are many reasons the rates in suicide have increased among men. Music is probably one of the more isignificant ones.

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>>70887100
you know, i've seen a few people call modern conservatives professional victims quite a lot lately

slowly but surely i think i'm beginning to understand, you fucking knob

>>70886978
Everything.

You'd be a fool to think the alt-right actually has any ideology. It's just a careless circlejerk, I mean that is what the campaign is known for, for being "carefree" and "fun".

Compare that to the genuine passion behind Bernie, that was about as far removed from cynicism as it gets. Hopefully you can agree with that and realize I'm not saying that he was the best candidate, just comparing online movements the contrast behind the two is quite stark. You have one group of people that deeply, deeply care about something, genuinely impassioned about what they believe in and in change, then you have the other side that are all about dank memes and fucking off the world with their punk attitude.

Trump lead the first ever postmodern presidential campaign.

>>70886200
go outside you fucking recessive sticky handful of pondlife scum

Why is /mu/ full of ess-jay-doublejews?

>>70887163
>I'm (((white))) and don't believe in anything the alt right does

>>70885285
It's flat out retarded to believe that there'd only be retards on one side of the political spectrum. You just don't like too think so much so you pick your favorite color and let the pundits do all the thinking for you from there.

>>70887229
Why do you breathe through your mouth and not your nose?

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>>70887229
Because being racist/homophobic is okay when black people do it

>>70887230
Oh, shoot, you've found me out, I was actually black ALL ALONG!

My roommate:
>Loves Sam Hyde
>Watches LiveLeak videos of military conflicts in the Middle East
>Has multiple MAGA hat
>Frequently watches InfoWars
>Believes himself to be a beacon of knowledge in a sea of ignorance
>His dad was the chief engineer of Oculus, therefore putting him in the top 0.0001%
>Complains about social welfare policies

I feel like he'd get along with you sad fucks

>>70885833
He was required to, you moron. He was barely a teenager. They handed out deportation notices. Read up on it and try again.

>>70887171
believe what?

>>70887191
sure, keep pretending this isn't a prevailing attitude in society among not just non-whites, but white liberals as well

>>70887285

bet on oculus stock to go down, convince him to make a youtube channel, bingo

>>70886913
I tolerate the views of those willing to engage in respectful dialectical discourse. I don't tolerate those who use their speech to engender hatred against marginalized groups in society. There are plenty of conservative critics, thinkers and politicians whom I greatly respect though with whom I disagree on a fundamental level. For instance I very much admire the UK conservative MPs David Davis and Kenneth Clarke, yet disagree with them on a large number of important issues. Yet I have no respect or tolerance for men like Richard Spencer and Steve Bannon.

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was the left and right always this fucking divided?

Jesus Fucking Christ

>>70886061
From Twitter I always thought that Mark Dice sort of just looked like a Dreamcast NPC. Then I happened upon one of his videos. Wow does that guy have a shitty body. He's got those manboobs that baseball coach dads get.

>>70887266
no

>>70887192
again, detachment from what?

>then you have the other side that are all about dank memes and fucking off the world with their punk attitude.

if you actually believe that's the average person with alt-rights beliefs then you're the one that's detached about how things stand.

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>>70887330
yeah
in the 1930s and 40s

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>>70887344
Then explain to us what the alt-right is about in a few sentences, because we're obviously not getting it by your standards, right?

>>70887285
and what's wrong with that?
do you have any legitimate criticisms of him?

how much do you differ from him and what do you believe in?

>>70886257
Evidence that the alt-right is still in high school

>>70887285
This is why I pretended to have sleep apnea so I didn't have to have a roommate in college.

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>>70887376
Never said there was anything wrong with it
It seems like you're frantically posting trying to convince people of something that isn't there, a spook perhaps?

>>70887344
You are being factitious if you're gonna sit here and tell me with a straight face that the online movement for Trump was anything but postmodern.

>>70886838
>why is it that it bothers you so much that people like modern art

because it's a money laundering operation you retard

>>70887325
> I don't tolerate those who use their speech to engender hatred against marginalized groups in society.

not a very convicing bait

>>70887419
So you faked an illness to get a safe space from all the evil racists out there?

>>70886257
most of /pol/ would fuck children though (as long as they're Aryan children)

>>70887368
you can do that all on your own

but his claim that it's all about dank memes and being punk is absolute retardation

>>70887457
>factitious
facetious*

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>>70886856
>INFO WARS of all things, which is a legit tinhat insanity fear mongering machine

Proofs??

Why does infowars have 10 times the daily listenership of CNN if they get everything wrong??

>>70887446
>I feel like he'd get along with you sad fucks

sounds like you don't view any of those "traits" favourably.

>>70887501
also because I am anti-social

>>70887512
source?

>>70887529
not the guy you're replying to but there really are that many stupid people out there

>>70884259

pop culture is cancer

who is this Anthony faggot? literal no-one

>>70887550
source: >>70887512

>>70887517
I want you to explain to me what the alt-right is in YOUR words. Think of me as a bumbling retard, where Google doesn't exist.

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>>70884558
>Ben Shapiro
>Alt-right

>>70884423
how can you even compare Manson's work to Miley Cyrus shaking her nasty ass in front of teenage girls

>>70887285
Sounds annoying as fuck.
>>70887500
That's not bait he sounds genuinely sincere and I agree with him.

>>70884568
Except pjw, Milo and Stephen Crowder are in no way representative of right wing/conservative views.

>>70886200
you have this picture saved on your computer just so you could make this post

>fucking lol

>>70887512
> most of /pol/ would fuck children though (as long as they're Aryan children)
> Indians, latinos and slavs from /pol/ fuck aryan children
TOP KEK

>>70884632
I wasn't aware shitting on a canvas is emblematic of modern art, but you said it, so it must be true

>>70887575
>implying manson's ass is less nasty

>FANTANO IS CENTRIST

There's a difference between shitting on people from both sides and calling yourself the most reasonable person in the room while everyone else is too extreme.

He's admitted support for Sanders in the past, he's definitely left of center.

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>>70884259
This video is exactly why I hate Anthony. He is just as stupid and malinformed as the people he critiques and smugly calls stupid. I know "postmodernism" is such a broad term anyone can use it without really knowing what it means, and it's also become hip to name-drop it again without even knowing what it is, but he spends this entire video just being condescending about how he wikipedia'd "postmodernism", surprised he didn't also start name-dropping DFW or some shit in the process too. He's part of that cancerous middle ground criticism for teenagers that feels contempt enough to make fun of "lesser" groups but really knows fuck all either. No substance. Just going on and on about shit he doesn't know anything about. Is he gonna talk about being an "existentialist" next?

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>>70886314
>literally doesn't know what projecting means

>>70887529
So you agree that Limp Bizkit and Creed are two of the best bands in history.

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>>70884478
sides into orbit by reading this out loud

>>70886115
Go to bed Paul

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>>70887304
>He was required to, you moron.

lol nice one cunt

Isn't that what they all said after the war??

>Hitler made me do it

And yet when the main funder of the democrat party says the nazis made him send jews to the camps, he gets a pass....

You are utterly retarded my friend.

>>70887629
There's nothing wrong with making fun of alt-righters, they are already making fun of themselves by being alt-righters.

Fantano is right.

It's clear he spends more time surrounded by pop culture and has more experience with art in general. Fantano has better thought out responses to the typical and ignorant points (muh lyrical complexity, missing the point of the urinal piece etc.) made by PJW.

PJW comes across as some crotchety old man and at times parallels those awful "born in the wrong generation" people.

Also, what the fuck is up with PJW sympathising with terrorists because he doesn't like Miley Cyrus? Almost as bad as unironically praising Hopsin as a forward thinking and """real""" artist.

>>70887266
I'm pretty sure literally no one in this thread made that claim

>>70887701
PJW isn't an alt-righter because he hasn't named the Jew

Anyone that refuses to call out Jews is a cuckservative in my book

>>70884478
solid meme lad

>>70886314

Do you even understand what the definition of "projecting" is?

no /pol/, pepe,
no facist memes today
no /pol/, pepe,
no facist memes today
no /pol/, pepe,
no facist memes today
no /pol/, pepe,
no facist memes today
no /pol/, pepe,
no facist memes today

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>>70887735
But they would say "it's only okay for a black person to say nigger" despite that concept being BTFO by Idubbbz

>>70887764
Just jettison the alt-right label if you care about jews, the most public faces of the alt-right right now are people like milo

>>70887813
I can say nigger and I'm white. But context matters. I don't care about words. I just don't like hatred.

>>70887813
>watching idubbz

i bet you're pumped for puberty!

>>70887813
Nah you're just assuming that because you're retarded. Also it's good to know your go-to voices of reason for political and social discourse are Paul Joseph Watson and idubbbz. Really makes me think

>>70887687
Jewish children were required to attend the Judenrat. They were given a list by the rabbi, and told to tell those on the list that if they report when told to, they will be deported. It was more or less a warning to get the hell out of Dodge ASAP. He didn't go door to door with Himmler and shoot Jewish women. Like many Jews, they tried to subvert the systems in place. This isn't complicated.

As for him 'stealing from the Jews,' his father bribed a Christian official to pretend that Soros was his Christian godson to protect him.
The end.
If you don't understand what this says, I don't know how to simplify it any more.

>>70884259
>alt-right infowars idiot vs. "i'm a REAL liberal" MRA supporter

neither

>>70887813
>idubbz
4chan is 18+, champ.

>>70884259
Paul actually blown the fuck out lmao

bout to read this thread

what should i expect

>>70887914
Fantano is a MRA? I find that hard to believe.

>>70887876
And yours are...?

>"dude im so much smarter than you cause I don't get force fed what to think"
>gets force fed what to think by Fagtano

>>70887967
he's a big supporter of Sargon of Akkad

>>70887966
Trolls and counter-trolls discussing some real issues.

>>70887977
Not idubbbz, paul joseph watson, or melon

>>70887980
Sargon isn't an MRA, he's too much of a centrist cuck to be one

God you faggots need to do your research

>>70887967
he's not actually

>>70887980
Sauce?

>>70887966
Morons.

>>70888002
>>>/pol/

>>70886257
>>While giving good reviews to albums about being a tranny, something that didn't exist 20 years ago.
How to spot an angry uninformed highschooler in the wild

>>70887575
>Miley Cyrus shaking her nasty ass in front of teenage girls
manson's fanbase was entirely teenagers dont pretend it wasnt

Thanks for this discussion about music, OP! Oh yes, I love this song.

>>70888115
>/mu/ is about music only
>korean waifu thread on the front page literally all the time

>>70887871
>>70887939
>not liking iDubbz
kys

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>>70887967
>Fantano is a MRA?

he went to war with Anita/Zoe/Brianna during gamergate

was good entertainment

>>70888140
they don't bother anyone

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>>70886257
>something that didn't exist 20 years ago.

>>70886465
Everywhere, because it was one of the most successful civilizations I history and is considered the cradle of civilization?

>>70884259
Melon, he makes a good go of it. But he's not clinical. Still fun read and good to see people react to PJWs uninformed rants about art.

>>70884259
>hates alt-right
>hates antifa
fuck centrists, you're part of the problem

>>70887966
teenagers

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>>70888064
>Sauce?

lol

>he doesn't remember the Podcast Fantano did with Sargon about gamergate

look it up

Anthony Cucktano is a fake excuse of a music reviewer. The only thing he'll ever he known for is his shitty teeth and his head comparable to that of a Kardashian's ass. Paul Joseph Watson is a much smarter, more respectable man than what this rat will ever be.

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>>70888212
b-b-but anti-fascism is totally just as bad as fascism!

>>70887712
>>70887674
>>70887256
keep crying, libtards. We won, get over it.

>>70888259
It's much worse

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>>70885530
he's a tranny in denial, that's so obvious (it's a common trend among youtubers btw)

>>70888259
Nah, deluded fascism under the guise of anti-fascism is just as bad

>>70888002
yeah people like him and the amazing atheist totally aren't mras they just constantly whine about how feminism is destroying the world constantly blaming women for every minor problem in their life and blaming problems caused by men on feminism (because muh logic!)

sure i guess sargon is a centrist
in the american sense, that is

>>70888243
>implying I listen to his podcasts

I started watching Fantano back in 2009 when /mu/ didn't even know about him and now I only watch his reviews occasionally now.
But if it's true, it's pretty sad.

>>70888275
I'm a conservative. The difference between me and you is that I can laugh at jokes.

>>70888288
>>70888259
What's wrong with fascism? Only idiots think that fascism is somehow problematic to society.

>>70888288
reminder that punching a single person who promotes genocide is just as bad as promoting genocide

but he's not killing people so it doesn't matter
even though neither are le leftists but that's a huge problem because i need to look cool on the internet

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>>70888288
>fascism = wants to destroy democracy & love to genocide jews, lbgt, etc.
>antifa = just want to fight fascism
totally NOT the same thing

>>70888299
All problems are caused by men

>>70888342
Beating people up for wearing MAGA hats is pretty fascistic

>>70888285
Damn, if Arin wasn't so fat he'd be a pretty hot tranny desu

>>70888344
>I have no idea what fascism is
It really shows

>>70888363
yes clearly everyone who is anti-fascist is like that
all leftists are the same but everyone right winger is a special snowflake

>>70888338
nice b8

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>>70887966
Leftie commie cucks.
Rightwing cospiracy lunatics.
(((((Memers))))) who don't care about politics but play devil's advocate because they think being on neither side is cool.

>>70888344
The ends justify the means

>>70888140
I wish it wasn't there either, but this isn't a music board.

>>70884259
I kekd and liked. Flamethony Winnertano

>>70888394
I'm referring to Antifa, not people who are against fascism in general. There's very a big difference

>>70886302
>mainstream
this is the second time I've ever seen this webcomic and the second time it was on 4chan and the second time it was someone from /pol/ complaining about shit no one else cares about

>>70888394
The conversation was quite clearly specifically about Antifa up to this point. Don't move the goalposts, dummy

>>70887581
i fully disagree with him.

>>70887966
Deluded schizos >>70888398

>>70888398
You're literally just using buzzwords and memes and accuse others of not caring about politics.

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>>70888344

>implying you commies will ever get anywhere in the US and not just get BTFO in the end as usual

>>70885933
>>the myth that depression is a chemical imbalance
its a strawman but people usually say depression is a chemical inbalance when there's NO SUCH THING, but that doesn't mean depression doesn't exist

>>70885523
>How is Soros any different than the Kochs?
soros funds protests against political opponents

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>>70888600

>>70885646
>can somebody please tell me any conservative or right-wing youtuber that delivers topics in a factual well-reasoned manner?
bill whittle

>>70884501
The last time someone represented the alt right we won the White House :^)

>>70885693
listen to his song fly