/prod/

First for fl studio

>>70860814
word

This is from live set practice. Would you dance to this? Is it too full? It's techno i guess.

https://clyp.it/0fnlump5

I own a Mac, should I get Logic Pro X?

>>70860760
https://clyp.it/ccbaxmkx

Ignore what I say, I'm really wondering if anyone can see what settings I should change to improve the sound for my 286s to get a bit of a better sound.

https://imgur.com/a/jrLAL

these are the current settings I have on my 286s. I've tried messing with it and this is what I have right now.

>>70861228
you should learn what a de esser/expander/compressor does first.

for recording speech i would not use the gate for example

>>70861276
ty

So I installed Pro Tools yesterday because Ableton's recording workflow sucks and what the fuck
it's pretty much the shittiest software I've ever used
CPU is at 100% even though I only have a single track playing a .wav, no plug ins or anything
how the fuck am I supposed to record with this? High sample rate is not an option

>>70861494
>Ableton's recording workflow sucks
how so?

>>70861511
It doesn't really have any efficient way to record different takes and as soon as you start recording multiple ins stuff gets cluttered fast

Ideally I want to sit at one side of the room, play a couple takes and then quickly put everything into one final track I can export and work with in ableton

>>70861567
Can't you do that if you set the recording to a loop then change tracks /clips? after the loop, dunno. Also you'll find the answer if you google it

>>70861567
if you have a mac try logic, works great for that

>>70861603
there's no efficient way to record in ableton, it's just not build for that

fuck pro tools tho, I'm uninstalling this piece of shit

>>70861638
why don't you google stuff you nong

https://www.ableton.com/answers/can-live-record-takes-to-lanes-as-one-can-do-in-other-daws-if-i-want-to-composite-a-guitar-track

>>70861657
did you even read the shit you post?
>You mean composite ('comp') takes, which I know Logic Pro and Reason 6 can do? Sadly, I don't think it can - it would be a great addition.
> Arm the track for record, place the cursor at the beginning of the loop brace on your track. Set your metronome to count-in (if you like). Then press record. Keep recording over and over that section and don't stop until you are done. Then, select the newly recorded clip in the arrangement view. Now view the clip in the sample box. You will see the entire recording there. Now you need to go an tediously move the start and end markers individually to select the take that you want. In the first place, you can move the start marker to the very begining and the end marker to the very end so that you may audition all your takes
yeah fuck that if I'm recording multiple tracks at the same time

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I want to improve my scales/chord playing skills on the keyboard, what are some good exercises?

>>70861789
The Virtuoso Pianist - Hanon

It's an old classic.

Play slow, deliberate and focus on technique, don't play fast like you're some Wakeman wannabe

>>70861227
i have logic

first and only daw i've ever used

easy to learn, cheap compared to the others and looks nice

if you're new to production i'd say start on that

>>70861063
i hate techno with a passion so no i wouldn't

but it does have dance vibes

it's just flat and lacks energy flow

raise and lower cutoff to build and release energy

maybe add something else in the background for more energy movement

>>70861494
Is ProTools really a meme? I know it's
>The industry standard
but I rarely hear anything good said about it.

what the fuck is up with people here and their intros?

an intro never needs to be a minute fucking long

especially if its just a pumping bass and random synth hits

>>70861952
I think it actually is a meme
seriously I'm really pissed right now for installing it, if I had the choice between protools or audacity for the rest of my life I'd choose Audacity

also can anyone using reason help me out?
I just learned about comping in reason which seems to be pretty neet, is there any way to copy the cuts from one track to another one, so you comp exactly the same i.e. guitar and vocals takes?
I often have two audio recordings that bleed into each other this is kinda important

>>70862014

>i hate pro tools
>guys how do i do this thing that pro tools in exceptionally good at?

>>70861063
it needs some interest at points, for example at the quieter part, double it in length, and add a slow filter sweep build up then crash back into the main beat

Add a few drum fills (even the smallest things will keep the listener engaged).

or maybe some echoing vocals sweeping across at some point. Just wanna add a bit of space and dynamic range to the track

>>70862049
I'd use protools even though it's clunky as fuck if it was possible to not crap out on me at a low sample rate
I can easily run ableton at lowest possible sample rate and stay under 10% cpu

>>70861693
Hey fuck you I was only trying to help you, why don't you paste the last bit of the comment. I hope you don't improve and all the music you make is bad but you don't realise it

>>70861964
where is your incredibly amazing clypit anon?

>>70862307
I didn't want to be rude, however I don't see the sense in arguing whether ableton is good or bad for recording
because it's shit
and I say that as someone who loves ableton and has been using it for 4+ years

>>70861567
you might like logic. it's more streamline and a little less CPU heavy than Protools. if not Logic, try Digital Performer or Cubase.

ableton's UX is a bit of a mess, and it does take some time to get used to the recording workflow, but it's one of the most lightweight DAWs out there... so don't expect other DAWs to be better in that department.

>>70862498
>it's one of the most lightweight DAWs out there... so don't expect other DAWs to be better in that department.
I didn't know that, thanks

I'll probably compare Cubase and Reason and if Cubase runs on my shitty Laptop I'll buy it because score editing would be super useful

Ableton is only good if you make videogame-like music, for anything else its not practical or intuitive at all

I swear the people who pretend its good have never played or recorded an instrument whatsoever

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>>70862570

>>70862570
>do peepl really liek what I don't liek? how is that even a thing?!

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>>70862570

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How do I /tomppabeats/ or /bsd.u/ on Ableton?

https://youtu.be/c8kVMGWDO4w
https://youtu.be/QNHd334m1Q0

How do you get your kicks to sound this good?

>>70862942
compression + eq + saturation

>>70862942
start with good samples

https://clyp.it/3nnrqv5p

any intelligent grime man in willing to chat?

guitar center has that deal for the mac mini, monitor, keyboard/mouse, mic, interface for $900 and i wanna know if that would be worth it if i wanted to use logic, or should i just buy a better mac (i dont need a really high quality computer)

>>70864541
depends on the mac mini and interface, but at that price i'd expect it to be like a 3-4 year old mac mini and a standard $150 interface... might be a good one-stop-shop deal, but you can probably get that price down if you buy everything second hand.

>>70864444
dont really know grime but this is a cool vibe

also just curious, is that a sample of Pink Floyd - Time with a bunch of reverb?

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I finished (kinda) that track i posted in the last thread

https://clyp.it/tj4yjkoq

whatchu guys think

>>70861063
>https://clyp.it/0fnlump5
i personally wouldn't say it's techno. trippy vibes but it is nice, needs more develop desu

>>70863047
thanks for the tip!

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Is anyone running a non-legit copt of Ableton on Sierra??????

Just put in an SSD in my macbook and my cracked version of Ableton 9 got uninstalled.

The fucker who put my SSD in installed Sierra without asking me, now none of the cracked versions of Ableton I find will not work. not even the version thats been on my computer for over a year.

I am freaking out. I don't know what to do.

how many people here actually use reason?

I'm kind of stuck right now and I think a new environment would create interesting challenges
yay or nay?

>>70869222
get fucked thief

i posted the remix last thread and someone said it was empty so i tried fixin that. the mix is still a complete mess im watching youtube vids and shit but hows this sound now?

https://clyp.it/gtvtvzjw

>>70869222
Same reason I'm avoiding having anyone do any sort of maintenance on my computer what-so-ever. All of my stolen VSTs/AUs/Drivers are working with a very delicate balance, I know as soon as I update my OSX everything will come crashing down so I don't bother to update.

>>70869222

i can help ya i'll be on all night

http://www.chatzy.com/62907727608340

>>70869547
I just throw shit in at random senpai

>>70869222
>Ableton
>Macbook
>SSD

lol

>>70871769
get in here boys its lit

http://www.chatzy.com/62907727608340
http://www.chatzy.com/62907727608340
http://www.chatzy.com/62907727608340

>>70869222
I would die if that happened to me, back up gents

thump

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tweaked drum samples, tried to fix bass/kick issues, rearranged the last half, adjusted mid/side on the pads

https://clyp.it/2qz0xjwg

>tfw can't tell if making it better or worse

Started work on this yesterday. I feel like I can't really look at it objectively anymore.
Any thoughts, feedback, tips?

https://clyp.it/xg1kvt3p

>>70874493
i like the sword o metal clapping samples but everything else is so out of place.

>>70874555
yea like I said I can't really see tell, I think I've worked on it too long. I'll let it sit for a couple days. Thanks for feedback.

i'm a really lazy electronic artist, what's some easy electronic music to make?

What is babby's first DAW that can actually get decent results?

I love Ableton so much

>>70875870
flstudio

>>70875954
Good. I have the right one then

Hey guys, can i get your opinion on this. I've been working on it today and wonder if I should keep going with it? Any criticism/advise would be helpful.
https://clyp.it/nqziznw5

>>70860760
Are the free Kontakt "Factory Selection" samples any decent? The ones they offer you when you download the kontakt 5 player

>>70876000
The drums sound really stiff/robotic

>>70876000

cool little progression

my vibe listening from it, i thought might fit some boom bap styled drums, maybe swung a bit better than what you got

or maybe some traditional trap hihats would help fill the space

good start though

Thank you guys for the feedback
>>70876187
I'll try to work it out better, I recorded them with midi and adjusted the "swing" in channel rack (using FL12) thinking it will help.
>>70876274
I agree, i was gonna add some hihats before posting so it doesn't sound too empty. I'm new to this so I figure I'd try to add things one at a time until i get a "full" sounding track. Then learn how to mix.

anyone got a crack for the v2 of 32 lives?

>>70861227
depends a little on what kind of music you're making. i started out with garageband, and moved up to logic, and i've really enjoyed it

also, on the off-chance you know someone who owns it, you can just log out of your app store, log into their's, download it, and then log back into yours and it works perfectly

Melody first or chords first?

>>70879957
percusion first

>>70880158

Serious answer?

>>70880231
it depends on what gets your creativity going

doesn't matter what you start with, its what you end up with.

>>70863564
I second, third, fourth and infiniteth this. Using properly recorded samples is so crucial. You can't truly fix poorly recorded samples with any production tool. Also, if it's produced well than it also saves you a ton of work.

>>70879957
I usually start off with a "sketch". Conceptualize something and start with a two or four bar progression/beat. Then just build. Neither are inherently "correct" it all depends on the artist, it's more important to just create SOMETHING and get started.

>>70862350
Not him but he has a valid point and a decent isn't intro isn't something that takes to much time to make.

hi, im new, whatd you think, tips pls (:

https://clyp.it/y35ddqi4

>>70869222
goyim u have to buy it

>>70881034
yeah its not like these people put their time and hard work into providing your with a product on which to build their livelihoods

disgusting faglords its not like pirating is crippling the industry but if you think these people dont deserve to be paid for their efforts then you should off yourself

>>70880577
>>70861964
i actually prefer longer intros, fuck your pop music standards

>>70881080
not everyone in the world lives with your ignorance or were raised under your capitalistic culture.

your reality doesn't concern everyone

>>70881928
you should one day buy atleast your daw imo people pirating is why gay shit like dongles exist

>>70881034
they put artifacts in the finished audio products of the pirated version to catch people who pirate

>>70881972
executives making terrible decisions is why dongles exist

Started to mess around with audacity for fun. Whats up with the pops when you cut and paste audio?

>>70882002
i hear they can backtrace your ip through the waveform

>>70861789
learn chord conversions and mess around with them

>>70882044
in the encryption data for sure

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>>70882002
>instead of building in the ability to brick the app
>we will secretly let them keep using it
>and build in an artifact feature
>then we can spend millions tracking them down in the wild

>>70882112
they check the illuminati datamine to see if you are worth taking to court

>>70882002
there was one called cinavia it was able to survive the watermark being recorded through a microphone and other types of conversions but it got defeated a few years ago

Pupper

well shit, I'm still getting that static issue with my focusrite.

Was playing overwatch when all the sudden it went staticy. Switched playback device default format and then it reset. Need help.

I have a focusrite solo 2nd gen connected to a usb hub connected to my computer.

>>70882667
still same anon here, it's basically a clocking issue I think

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J Dilla drum kit go hard as fuck

listen

https://clyp.it/d0qsralf

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I tried my hand at rapping, how terrible is it? Would any one of you actually listen to this if you came across it? Is there anything that sounds awkward that I should change?
https://clyp.it/g3evddj2

>>70881011
Hi-hats are a little loud. I like that the synth(s) sound like a sample.

>>70874493
I actually like the drum beat, but I would drop the double kick.

>>70874176
I'm digging that funky bass. Try to fit more than 2 vocal samples in there. Something like
>sample 1 & 2
>sample 1 & 2
>sample 1 & 2
>sample 1 & 3
instead of just 1 and 2 constantly. I think it would make a drastic difference.
Also, consider having a part where both the bass and drums go out so that the song feels a bit more dynamic.

>>70882074
absolute garbage

>>70881972
Its true you should buy one, what a shame we live in a world where its easy to rip off cool stuff but we have to pay parking tickets, power bills coffees

Hey guys, I want to make drum tracks for my tunes (I play post-rock, metal and some more stuff). How should I go with this?
I already have FL Studio, but I have a hard time making the drums sound realistic. Any other softwares that could work?

>>70884014
look for toontrack superior drummer 2 or steven slate drums

i just made a song, where do i post it so superior /mu/ people tell me how bad i am and where to improve on

thanks

>>70875968
dont fall into memes too hard, fl is for sure babby's first but it's still a viable daw and you can make good products with it if you're determined

>>70876000
the progression is good, but it's pretty obvious that you're using fl keys. i'd recommend adding filters or just switching keys. and the way the pattern of the drums are makes it hard to tell what kind of rhythm you're going for. they also sound real treble-y, make them more bass-y. keep up the good work tho

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Did I fuck up?

>>70884223
I'm not too into the meme. I just don't want to learn a daw that can't produce something decent. I'm sure some of the skills and knowledge transfer but I don't want to feel like I wasted my time.

https://clyp.it/xnfzulnp

I started producing a month ago. this is just some loopy shit i put together. i guess it's techno or something. the production seems tight, i just have a hard time critiquing my own works.

>>70884482
fl can make you what you want it to given patience and experimentation

https://clyp.it/j0oud31k
how'd I do

>>70860760
Is there a market out there for cheap small sample packs? Looking to fill the gap between free ones and packs in the 25-50 dollar range.

>>70885215
im sure some people will buy but they will get uploaded somewhere for free soon after

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>>70860760

https://clyp.it/xlwqjzei

Hey everybody, looking for criticism/advice on this demo I made today. Is the song good enough that it's worth fleshing out and recording properly?

Also sorry about the shitty drums. I have to play them via midi keyboard and I just gave up halfway

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>>70884769
This is cool. I think some harder drums would sound nice, makes me think of ANCO a little bit. I'd be careful about panning things too hard because your mix might sound silly in Mono, so I'd advice that you occasionally set your master track to mono to see how it feels/make adjustments.

>>70884843
The overall sound of this is nice, I like the dirt. I'd look into being more dynamic with the bass parts though because listeners get tired of hearing constant loud sub-bass. Maybe have a section without the bass, or syncopate the bass melody a bit more/lower the release time on the synth patch?


>>70885436
Let me know what you think of mine, any advice would be cool

first full song, criticism very much appreciated
https://clyp.it/c4oruigg

>>70882045
>conversions
do you mean inversions?

>>70884308
thank you for the feedback I really appreciate it.
yes I did use FL keys, I'll try some filters. I'm only working with the stock FL plugins. As for the drums, after listening to it for a good while I think I'll have to completely redo them. I was trying to make the snare sound real snappy. another anon suggested a boom bap style beat. I'll probably try to go with something like that.

>>70883232
>Try to fit more than 2 vocal samples
good point, i'll try to change that up. thanks senpai

>https://clyp.it/g3evddj2
this is good. I like the rapping, and instrumentation/fx are solid. You've got a pretty good voice, but right now it sounds too muffled and in the background. Maybe try making it the focus of the track? louder, more clear, layer multiple vocal takes, etc.

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https://clyp.it/roh24t11
Just finished this now. Does it make sense? I feel like some of the sections are really stratified from each other. I don't know if I achieved that such desired musical glue so to speak.

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so this is my synth & bassline in a nutshell, i´m gonna add a generic drop to that using same melody and trance samples

any advice from you guys? gonna finish this before sunday

https://clyp.it/1xzvfb4u (8 seconds sample)

what are your go-to mastering plugins?
I don't have much experience mastering electronic music

Where the fuck do you download good plug ins from? And where do you torrent non free ones?

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>>70887812
here's my mastering chain for this https://clyp.it/zcu5obfv

Start with a good mix, that never goes above -6dB

>>70888011
Also by plug ins I'm looking more for signal processing plug ins not really virtual instruments

>>70888011
https://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/

I used alot of these on https://clyp.it/zcu5obfv

>>70888052
thanks, m8. that's not exactly electronic through, should have specified more I guess.
the mastering sure fits your 70ies style mix, maybe it's even a tad loud and low-endy for that

>that never goes above -6dB
I read this a lot but never understand, though
what's the point of doing this with digital audio?

>>70888223
If you use these right they will sound great for electronic music, trust me famalam.

So digital music tends to sounds like shit when pushed to hard, back with tape you could push it up to the limit cause it sounded good in some cases. When you have this gap from the peak, you can stack multiple mastering plugin and never have to worry about them pushing too hard and totally killing the dynamics of your mix.

Also that 70s mix is re-imagined a bit modern in order to compete with today's market.

Trust me with digital, the more headroom you have the better, then use a limiter at the end with makeup gain to get it close to peaking and then a final master limiter at about -.3dB hardwall so nothing ever goes above that.

>>70888319
but why would the last 6dB sound different than the rest of the scale? I just don't get it
I can stage the gain in between plugins and set them so they operate at what ever level I want them, why would I need to throw away headroom (and therefore SNR) for that?

>>70888410
It's how it's done by the pros man, all of my channels are set quite low, so that the master bus peaks around -6dB. This allows for clarity in your mix and you'll find certain plugins will sound better when they have headroom to work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk4D4bMu8uo

try this

>>70888410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZBxTjKuhEA&t=893s

also this

chat is up again

http://www.chatzy.com/62907727608340

should i get a korg volca keys? found one on craigslist for 15 bucks cheaper than what they go for on ebay. never used an analogue synth before, only have a dx11.

>>70888911
Everyone I've ever heard talk about the Volca series says they're fun, so yes.

Do you guys layer your reese bass / gold synth with a seperate sub? if so, do you eq the sub bass frequencies from the reese?

pleb here

can someone help me set up Simpler or Sampler on Ableton to have an acapella split up chromatically, so each key corresponds to a different part of the song?

basically like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5sOpn32sQ

>>70883232
>Hi-hats
hi, thanks! you are right

>sample
beach boys

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Thoughts?

https://clyp.it/smid4sqp

>>70861494
ableton sucks? wht u chattin?

a couple of pads on my launchpad pro are less sensitive than the others, any ideas how to go about fixing it?

should i add tape or something to the underside of the rubber on the bad pads?

>>70889957

he just sucks with ableton

what is the key to making digital synths sound good? is it all down to the synth plugin or is it more about effects?

>>70890836
mostly experience and time. A weathered ear

>>70886733
yeah

>Tfw trying to write good lyrics and they either come off as cheesy, fake, or stupid sounding

So what song should I listen to when I kill myself tomorrow?

>>70891225
i mean what are the characteristics that make some synths sound cheap and shitty and others not

>>70889269
Search sample chopping slicing ableton

A little multi-part beat i've been working on. Thoughts?

https://clyp.it/5ibxeacd

what is a mixer for? doesn't it just have eq on it mostly and you can put different audio inputs into each track?

Do people unironically use the word "pupper" or is it just part of the /s4s/ invasion going on right now?

>>70881928
whatever faglord

i pirated my shit and if i ever made money from it i would support the person providing me with the service

>>70891412
and what I am saying is you'll answer that question as you go. Obviously it's subjective depending on taste and the sound you want to achieve. If you're talking about quality of software engines, that's a completely unnoticeable minutiae to most people and probably even you as the producer. At the end of the day, if you ever want to market yourself, just remember quality is DEAD. Everything is maximized to shit and everything is digitized, degraded, and re-downloaded to the point that the consumer receives a track entirely different to the sound you were intending initially. What I'm trying to say is don't fucking sweat it. Find the softsynth that works best for you and start churning out music like a machine.

But that's just realistic advice. Here's some regurgitated recs that any faggoty tech-blog could've told your lazy ass anyway:

anything from
-native instruments
-u-he
-spectrasonics
-Arturia
-Steinburg
-sugarbytes
Also, spire is great, and don't fall for the serum meme unless you make brostep. that's it

hows the mix sound before i use it for some demo?
is it crisp or muddy?

https://clyp.it/lfetqoab

>>70885436
great composure. Too dense at parts with the bass and reverb, very clashing, not in the good way you're going for. Listen to jai paul then go mix your song and hear and feel all the differences.

>>70885751
pretty bad. heavy in the left speaker for some reason. You're probably mixing on headphones is why. Basically very boring, it doesn't have any direction or purpose.

>>70887025
really really enjoyed this. Where are the samples from?

>>70887493
Super quiet. Take the envelope off the main lead it makes it sound stupid. Just embrace the fact that it's a detuned saw-wave and put some rad ass beats moshin underneath.

>>70888052
wowwwww. Blown away man. Super fucking solid. Parts feel like radio moscow. Only criticism is you never want to hard pan electric guitar unless you have a proper counterpart also hard panned. Sounds awesome on my speakers but it really becomes painful and tiresome on my left ear through the phones. You gotta understand people mostly listen to shit on apple earbuds and nobody will be able to tolerate anything even slightly unbalanced because even the smallest increment of it is amplified to rape-like amounts.

>>70889841
>LFO - the synth
Firstly, something, either the vox or gated keys are out of sync at some points in the intro. Secondly, I have never enjoyed this synth in anything so it is hard to stay impartial with this one. I think you believe it sounds super epic and you think you're whereisalex or daruma or something but it really doesn't reach that level because your shit is uneventful, repetitive, under-proceesed, and under-mastered. Don't worry tho, you're on the right track. Just practice more. Listen more.

>>70891518
You can't just sidechain and limit and expect that to do the mixing for you. There's lots of work to be done on this. The cuts aren't working for me, and the sax sample is treated like a melody, but not given the spotlight of one.

>>70888052

where do you get these plug ins? are they free? I got Waves plug ins for free but dont know how to use them lol

>>70861952
>>70862014
yeah protools is a meme

its perfect for folks who only use it to record people playing. its shit for everything else.

>register to a production forum
>there's a "share your music" section
>check one random guy's music
>has at least 10 views
>no comments
>but his music is more lit than mine
why is making music so hard

>>70861952
protools is objectively SHIT unless you do film sound. More than thirty minutes in it and you'll want to slit your wrists

>>70894727
if your doing sampling start off with a pattern.

if your doing instrumentation start off with a riff.

then build from there with beats, backing sounds and random fx.

go for 30 seconds of music that sounds complete to you then build on.

doesnt matter what you use as long as the job gets done.

or steal peoples music, no one really gives a shit unless its top famous people. just dj and use effects and shit.

>>70894727
none of what you said had anything to do with music being hard, just you being a self-deprecating simpleton. Keep trying and if you suck ass, try some more. faggot.

Where do you guys find your acapellas? Or do you make them?

>>70896130
downloaded like this 6gb pack of acaepllas off rutracker and i just slap them in there

>>70896159
please link

can you guys give me feedback
https://clyp.it/et15dync
Is it interesting? Would you listen to it? I'll add some samples here and there but the overall feel I think is there... Been studying my music theory and it's finally paying off

>>70896240
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1322558

varying quality and might not be exactly what you're looking for but i use them jsut to practice working with / around vocals

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what have i done

>>70896130
acapellas4u.co.uk

>>70894818
>>70894820
>none of what you said had anything to do with music being hard, just you being a self-deprecating simpleton. Keep trying and if you suck ass, try some more. faggot.
i hate you because i know you're right.

i know for real that there are people with this natural born talent for music. i personally know 2 of them. and they are fucking great
the more of them people i see, the more i realize that "hardwork" is a meme.

>>70894349
>take the envelope off
it´s gonna sound really cheap if you dont have reverb, attack or anything, i like samples when they get sorta massive

also the detune´s in there coz i didn´t like the natural synth sound, it´s better pitched down

>>70894818
don´t steal just coz it´s easy, there´s no fun in that

https://clyp.it/mfbbdmpg

I'm not gonna actually do anything with this so no feedback really necessary but just sharing /prod/

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>>70894349
>your shit is uneventful, repetitive, under-proceesed, and under-mastered.

I like your no nonsense criticism, fambino. Thanks.

Anyway, what should I google in order for my shit to be eventful as I'm kinda confused as to what you mean?

How is my burial pastiche?

https://clyp.it/0qqdazkf

https://clyp.it/r5olzban

im not sure
tried a bunch of melodies over this instrumental part this has been the most ok sounding so far

>>70898692
i like the hollow sounding drums
imo the vocal samples are good and fit well
>>70897996
this like the club song they play in movies when everybody gets fucked up and takes ecstasy and then someone ends up dying
>>70896240
>hey fuck you I hope you don't improve and all the music you make is bad but you don't realise it
wew
i like it but something sounds off-key about that high synth in the last part, idk if that was your intent
>>70891312
it me
>>70891518
theres a lot going on here and im not sure what to focus on. theres maybe a vocal sample or soemthing in the background that seems like the focus, i like that. the piano feels a little oppressive

>>70898694
also the drums sound a little off but ok to me. i have tried a bunch of different patterns but this sounded the best. step sequencing drums in renoise is a little annoying and confusing

hows the mix sound before i use it for some demo?
is it crisp or muddy?

https://clyp.it/lfetqoab

>>70898011
Not that guy but I'll help you.

The basic rule is to state something, change it and then replace it.

Let's say you have 4 bars. This is your statement which we'll call A.

You will then change the basic idea somehow over the next four bars.Add more instruments or change the melody. This will be the variation A*.

Then you need a new musical idea called B.

A song can be structured like this:
A - A* - B - B* then you have 16 bars.

>>70887025
this is amazing, one of the best things i ever heard on prod

>>70896876
... automated things? what are you even referring to?

What's the most regretful sale of a piece of gear you ever did?

I sold my 303 2 years ago, and I don't even fucking remember what I did with the money, but it sure as shit was not important.

>>70900769

Hardware is a meme anyways.

>>70900842
>this is a meme

>>70900641
what a bloody mess

>>70898011
I thought it was p good. Is the bassline in mono? I would try switching it to mono and see if it sounds good

what's the actual term for a blank note
llike a gap in the beat

does anyone know how to sequence one on the microbrute?

>>70901354
rest
the microbrute has a button for it

>>70901373
holy fuck this has changed everything cheerse

>>70901354
>>70901373

Should I get a Microbrute or a Korg Monologue? Or a Minibrute? or a Minilogue?

>>70901543
depends
try them

>>70876174
Yeah, there are some cool vintage emulations and whatnot in there.

>>70884469
Nah, its p legit. I woulda saved for a Minilogue though.

>>70890836
I find its the harshness of the top end that makes them sound really thin and frail. Back off on the cutoff of most synths and recreate it with saturation and subtle distortion.

Small amounts of room and hall reverb with a really short delay mixed low in the song can add a sense of depth as well.

You may want to try making the synth patch sound like it's played by a human - differing velocities, differing cutoff envelope times automated throughout the loop, etc. Anything to humanize it.

>>70894772
I'd also add that in a professional studio it's the industry standard for a reason. Its really intuitive when it comes to multiple inputs and actual live recording.

>>70894349
Yo this is the hard-panned guitar guy, if you listen at about 2 min in the second guitar part comes in strong. It's done this way on purpose! to add extra emphasis on the song getting bigger and expanding, the organ and floaty guitar are covering alot of the right channel. I think that the left guitar might be a bit too saturated and that's what sounds off in headphones. But I appreciate the feedback! The strive was for quality here

>>70901622

I can't m8, I live in Mexico where you can get none of them. I have to order online.

>>70894727
keep working at it, learn more everyday, don't get brought down by comparing your work to someone else. Gain staging, gain staging, gain staging, and did i mention gain staging

Use your ears, start with a good recording and watch videos.

>>70901870
Put reverb on the left guitar and pan the reverb right. Do the same to the right guitar. It'll add balance while not taking away from the directionality.

>>70899836
So the gist is that I should add more variety and switch things up more?

>>70900991

I can't really check right now. Maybe later.

>>70902011
This mix actually has that lol it's just a bit low I suppose. There's about 40 tracks on this song, lots of them are buses and about 3 mics on guitar cabs/piano/organ a piece

also how come my microbrute plays only 15 different notes when it's set to an 8 pattern
am i missing a basic understanding of music theory?

>>70902430
read the manual, m8
it's 8 assignable patterns, each up to 64 steps, but how many you input is up to you

>>70902494
i did
didn't say anything about the number of steps but what do they mean by pattern?
like a memory of a sequence you made before?

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This guy is great, his book's worth reading

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mix-mistakes

>>70861494
reinstall. you did something wrong. stop bitchin, nothing is wrong with either program, you just can't make music.

>>70860814
Hi

>>70903072
yeah, the 8 patterns are the different sequences you can set up and switch in between. they're stored till they're overwritten which is pretty neat

Anyone else use renoise here?
made this in renoise :
https://radesounds.bandcamp.com/track/snakes

what do you think

>>70894349
hey man, indie rawk guy here.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated! Any recommendations in the Jai Paul discography to check out?

I want to add an FM synth to my slowly growing studio. Been using FM8 for a while, how does the Korg Volca FM compare? Or is there a better alternative around $200, recommendations plz.

>>70900946
it's a dropdown list of automated tracks, still not really sure what you're referring to

https://clyp.it/4ab1ual3
[ "Pachinko Paradise" | Speedcore | Work In Progress ]
it's supposed to be like a bar fight in a pachinko parlor, imagine the neon clusterfuck stimuli of akihabara and all the overload that comes with it
something like that

ps
how the fuck do I actually "tighten up" a mix? It sounds... not good, passable, but still shit.

>>70904343
me here

>>70898692

needs some sort of percussion to mark the transition between the intro and where the bass kicks in
I love the processing on the drums though, what'd you do?

>>70893064
the mixing is good but the bass sounds a few milliseconds too slow. If it were a synth, I'd say turn the attack down a little bit. There are a few other things generally out of tempo too.

otherwise, compositionally it holds up really well. This sounds wicked.

>>70889188
i never use reese bass but sub frequencies are delicate. If you've got 2 things battling over those frequencies, its not going to sound good.

So yeah... if you are going to add more sub bass frequencies, eq/hpf the reese or just add the bass at a low db that doesn't cause any dissonance/distortion

how do I make my music less "copy/paste copy/paste duplicateduplicateduplicate?"

>>70904980
variation
automation
humanizing/pushing stuff off the grid
transitions

Are MIDI controllers/Samplers necessary? I use Ableton for recording and have a Push 2 but I dont use VSTs, just hardware.

>>70861789
2 handed scales up and down 2 octaves simultaneously

>>70905597

Well, nothing is necessary of course, but it's a lot easier. If you don't use VST's I don't see the point of having a MIDI controller.

>>70905953

oh okay, cause im trying to find an easy workflow and gear setup that'll work for me for live and in studio

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https://clyp.it/gjzcjjik
am I doing ok?
any obvious changes I need to make?

https://clyp.it/5vky55wk

Made this last week. Still needs to be mixed and need to do vocals but this is the main idea.

if i put in a power supply that's too weak will i accidentally my computer?

>>70905597
>I dont use VSTs
really? none? not even for effects or eq?

If you are routing everything into a DAW, you should at least get a midi controller to act as a good mixer (faders, sends, etc)

>>70906391

I dont use VSTs synths or anything MIDI, but I do use the stock effects in the DAW. I don't like using to many plug-ins cause shitty macbook laptop when CPU gets high, and sounds too glitchy.

should i compress the lows, mids, or highs on my master track?

>>70907378
lows and highs

>>70904343
I think the problem is theres a lot of noise coming from your blurred hats sound, if you could isolate and lower it, other elements would be more present

https://clyp.it/dtyzu420


Is this sounding cool? was going for a blend of hip hop and deep house

>>70889065
thanks for gettin me to buy this, its super fun. totally different sound from my dx11, complements it perfectly. now all i need is a 303 clone ill have just about everything I need!

>>70904474
>the mixing is good but the bass sounds a few milliseconds too slow. If it were a synth, I'd say turn the attack down a little bit. There are a few other things generally out of tempo too.
>otherwise, compositionally it holds up really well. This sounds wicked.
im messing with soundfonts before i put it out for others.
thanks for the feedback

https://clyp.it/1v4witky

Am I french yet, /mu/?

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https://clyp.it/y0qvcnok

I'm stuck. What do I need to do with this?

I have concerns that the kicks aren't hitting hard enough and that some sections are tedious. Would love some feedback.

>>70907859
I like your ideas, but there's a lot of low end clashing - the bass is a little lost with all those effects and low synths (where you may need to lose some of the lows)

>>70866769
>https://clyp.it/tj4yjkoq
move some of the snares off time
>no melody or vox
could make it more interesting, sounds decent tho

>>70871343
>https://clyp.it/gtvtvzjw
I actually like this anon
hearing most of the clashing in the highs, maybe throw some of those synths in the back with verb; personally i'd have boomy-er kicks in spots. add some meat to the guitars maybe

are these stems on the remix sight? O.o
>>70883124
>https://clyp.it/d0qsralf
cool drums boring otherwise

>>70887025
>https://clyp.it/roh24t11
you may be starting to outgrow prod m8

>>70888071
>https://clyp.it/zcu5obfv
>not a rectangle master
bass sounds a little loud but it might be my speakers. chill

>>70906180
>https://clyp.it/gjzcjjik
>no preverb in the intro
that rising low pass in the intro is kind of bad desu, maybe more resonance or a more interesting rise... there wasn't much of a payoff, make it more dramatic!

>>70906310
>https://clyp.it/5vky55wk
i'd use something closer to white noise like a bit crushed clap as a slightly longer/snappier clap but it's cool man... maybe vary it a bit more I got tired

>>70909001
>https://clyp.it/1v4witky
I don't hear obviously sampled songs so no. also not pumping a compressor hard enough

dope man

>>70909110
>https://clyp.it/y0qvcnok
might sound counter intuitive bud it'd shorten the decay on that kick... like their's noise at the end I think gets in the way

also slap a multiband compressor on your bass to clear up room for the kick, or just make some huge eq cut

>>70909110
>https://clyp.it/y0qvcnok
also highpass your kick/everything in that part where it lowpasses mannnn

I really like this song

>>70909824

OK I will give it a shot, screencapped your comments - thank you for the feedback, super helpful.

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https://clyp.it/bdeijsei

>>70909760
>I don't hear obviously sampled songs so no. also not pumping a compressor hard enough

>dope man

I'll consider it as a sucess then

>>70909893
>https://clyp.it/bdeijsei
those piano chords could sound a lot more interesting with dissonance

>>70909942
kek

tell me what you think
https://clyp.it/to3psrsz

>>70909760
>are these stems on the remix sight?
Yeah you can download NIN stems and other work by other artist Trent worked with on from the NIN remix site.

ayyyyy you wanna see my prostate? you wanna see my prostate? you wanna see my prostate? yeahhhhh i said ayyyyy

>>70909893

2nd part was cool

https://clyp.it/wxgz3oao

I made this mash up of things. Please rate and give opinions.

>>70897807
let me finish this sentence for you:
>it´s gonna sound really cheap if you dont have reverb, attack or anything
...thus I am going to go in and pre process the dry sound so it does not sound cheap, then hit it with some verb.
Can't polish a turd friendo

>>70898011
>>70902028
>So the gist is that I should add more variety and switch things up more?
precisely. that is what those words I used in the first post mean, if you couldn't gather.

>>70903770
>Any recommendations in the Jai Paul discography to check out?
oh wow, it's a little concerning that you don't have all of his songs completely memorized beat for beat considering you make indie. I have no recs I don't listen to him, just go and dive in head first. Notice mixing. Drop in a track of his on your DAW next to a bounced version of your own and compare them with a specrum analyser, then tweak the differences in post.

>>70901870
my fault, I didn't pick up on that at first I didn't do a full playthrough I was skimming around 30 second increments.

>>70911432

up until 1:45 are you actually doing anything besides playing the samples? and once it hits the 1:45 mark is starts to sound really off tempo/rythm

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>>70909760
>you may be starting to outgrow prod m8
>>70899900
>this is amazing, one of the best things i ever heard on prod

well shiiieeetttttt
thanks bois

>>70911482
Nope. All sample nothing originally made besides having to recreate the stupid Madvillain instrument.

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My first time posting in these type of threads.
Made a simple Hip Hop beat
https://clyp.it/3n02yshf

Samples:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pmxoEgHTCI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWOsClng564
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7KY8znaLlY

Besides being repetitive. And i understand the middle of the song gets off beat.
Can i get any opinions? Negative or good. Just want thoughts and advice for a beginner like me.

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>>70911708
>no rhythm, no percussion, no bass and yet I'm supposed to judge this as if it were finished

>>70911897
>>no rhythm, no percussion
??

>>70911945
yes motherfucker I said what I meant. Song has no driving force. You even said it yourself it goes "out of sync" aka you didn't even bother to cut it properly like even the most novice fl using hip hop producer kid knows how to do. Learn your shit or don't act all confused when your unfinished product is criticized.

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>>70912101
I said the middle was out of sync. Like i said, shit tier beginner. Was just confused by you saying >no rhythm, no percussion.
I will admit to laziness for not properly fixing it up. I'll take your words. And hopefully improve better in my future.

>>70912101
>>70911897
Thanks for the feedback anyways.

>>70912177
Alrightee. I am a bit of a dick to beginners it's just so frustrating because I personally empathize with being at that level yet believing the lie that my own stuff was passable. What usually holds the novice back is a lack of knowledge, less than experience. Put yourself out there and take things IN. Then process it, listen to moar and moar shit, THEN make something.

>>70910521
pls

>>70910521
It's like two songs happening at once. Whatever the antonym of juxtaposition is, that's this.

>>70912573
you mean they dont contrast well?
if that's the issue then ill work on my counterpoint, thanks

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>>70912325
>I am a bit of a dick to beginners
That's OK. As long as you're showing me the faults in my work. I will accept it.
>I personally empathize with being at that level yet believing the lie that my own stuff was passable
I loved what i made. I thought it was better than all my other works. It was simple, but i thought the way the samples played together was nice and on note. And some people I've showed it to liked it. So that made me more confident in that beat. But that love most likely blinded me of the true faults of my beat.

Actually kind of glad i posted my beat here. It feels like a wake up call for me now.

>>70912719
that's really reassuring to hear anon I wish the best for you and all /prod/.
You better get used to that feeling tho. Thus is our life. We are our biggest fans and critics.

>>70912666
the only element that stays consistent is the drum loop. Mostly everything else is random. No base key, no song structure. If I was blindfolded and earplugged, then sat down in front a DAW, this is what I would make.

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>>70910521
pretty awful but I like your name

https://clyp.it/s4swj3ep

latest thing I started, what do you guys think?

>>70914487
it's alright, there's nothing chiptune about it though.

>>70911482
So did you like it?

>>70915092

no. lol

>>70915403
Wow you do

http://us21.chatzy.com/62907727608340

chat

>>70911708
>https://clyp.it/3n02yshf
@:43seconds really killed the vibe for me, maybe use that part at the very end, as an outro or something? I like it for the most part though, the piano sample is nice.

>>70914487
I think it's very hype, and kinda jpop-ish

__________
https://clyp.it/qae5neau
can I have a r8, pls?

>>70860760
https://clyp.it/wg2dhlim
Thoughts?

>>70916202
If I'm being honest nothing really grabs me, but it's nice.

Made a little sample pack of genesis/mega drive drums if anyone wants them.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzY3VEy-TGy3aTZvRjliY2xuZFU

Quick demo with VOPM.

https://clyp.it/4wx0nylw

Anyone else here using bitwig

>>70918518
>bitwig
ALMOST as pleb as Ableton Live DESU

>>70918518
renoise till I die

anyone got a vengeance samles link?
i gotta make some money, can't only be doing this bleep shit

>>70919155
just sample deadmau5/other edm guys, they basically did all the work for u

>>70919167
thx senpai

Can you guys recommend me some books explaining the basics of mixing/effects (compression, reverb, delay, the theory behind it, etc.)
I already use it intuitively, but I'd like to know exactly what I'm doing.

Is the attack on the lead obnoxious enough?

>https://clyp.it/k404zb2f

>>70919721
I think the mixing engineers handbook has what you need

>>70920037
thx

>>70860760
How do I make sound in FL Studio that doesn't sound so sterile without using audio recording and sampling? Anyone have any recommended videos perhaps to guide me?

>>70887025
You got a good vibe going, but I can't help but feel it's unfinished or missing something.

>>70919866
what the hell

>>70884469
Brute is good for leads and bass, but kinda limited by mono and harsh tones. you might find yourself feeling a bit restricted after fully exploring it.
All synths are restricted in one way or another though, theres no such thing as a synth which can do absolutely anything. You can easily supplement your overall sound at no cost by getting a bunch of cracked VSTs. I highly recommend Serum and Diva. Serum is really easy to use and can sculpt a wide range of sounds, then Diva is a really good emulation of many classic analogue synths. It produces a really warm fat sound which other VSTs cant do

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>>70919866
go on

>>70920532
>>70920937
H-how's this?
>https://clyp.it/1zbtjqdd

Where's flume boiz? I miss him

>>70919721
Mixing engineers handbook

>>70914530
it started out just with the 8 bit shit but then I decided "fuck it, let's put some drums on this and make it dance-y"

>>70916058
really Debussy/Satie, mixing can use a lot of work, drum samples could be better, the bass sound is very basic, needs more sidechain, more foley and misc sounds to fill up the emptiness, needs more variation as well, it's the same all throughout

>>70916202
sounds very generic, work on more variation

>>70917748
thanks senpai

>>70919155
all the vengeance packs are on rutracker

>>70919721
the best books are plugin manuals and going through every term that's mentioned on there to fully understand it

>>70919866
yes, but it's bad jesus, the song itself is good but the lead doesn't have to be so loud, kick and bass should take over a bit

>>70920424
what kinds of sounds are you interested in making?

hey guys, is this how I become famous?

https://clyp.it/gfujizrv

>>70921804
Updated clyp here >>70920991

>>70921804
>eurobeat
>Bass
You are missing the point

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>>70921804
>kick and bass should take over a bit

>kick and bass take over

>kick and bass

>take

>over

>eurobeat

kys

>>70921822
you need a more beefed up kick, harder hitting sub and a tad sidechain on the synths, also they're still more loud than they should be. A/B with running in the 90's

>>70921841
>>70921854
listen to running in the 90's, the kick is beefed up and the bass is good, synths are still loud but he controls them so they don't rip your eardrums apart.

>>70921818
What a banger mate, makes me want to do drugs and grind up on another guys crotch

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can I get an honest r8 peeps?

>>70921905
I have truly succeeded

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Just made this picture
Anyone else feel me?

>>70921936
Me on the top right

>>70921931
and I mean, on the Star Destroyer

>>70921936
no, why would your parents want you to be an acoustic-guitar-at-a-party douche?

>>70921896
I'm shooting for the more Toho style sound than SEB. That's why I have the really transient attack.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFDuB8oaC4s#t=45s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAns2qjZDM#t=26s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_017ctQIH8A#t=23s

So
>Layer kicks
>boost activity in the <100hz range (I'm layering another kick and adding plucks).

I like the synths being really grating, but I haven't filtered the tops yet. Gotta keep them obnoxiously sharp though I think.

It's my first foray into making my own music in quite a long time, and this type of music at all.

>>70921936
no i have two screens

Guys this is the next big genre; get on it; weird bass, future wonky, etc

fuck off 4chan i'm not advertising stop thinking it's spam

sick bruhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

https://www.fakebook.com/flumemusic/videos/1219150458120313/

test

>>70898694
can someone tell me if this is bad so far
its rough + the lyrics are just placeholders right now

>>70921936
homeboy on the bottom looks like he hasnt seen sunlight since day 1 of his life
>>70921818
why is this style of music so popular even
>>70918518
what are the benefits of using bitwig vs ableton

i feel like my mind is better suited to trackers where i can't actually see the waveforms. i don't know why but it feels more intuitive even though it can sometimes be a hassle

>>70879957
I found that if you go with melody first you can build a song around that way better than if you start with drums/chords first
I used to start with drums, then chords, then bass and then put a melody over that but it always felt just tacked on because the rest of the instrumentation didn't "react" to the melody at all and I felt too lazy to add in little details that would tie everything together because I felt like the parts were already finished

>>70921804
>what kinds of sounds are you interested in making?
guitar, bass, drums, keyboard mostly

Anybody else think of making a dance track (or any track) made almost entirely of reverb? Like taking a synth or any sound, putting reverb on it and taking the dryness all the way down, and only using that?

>>70924205
>Anybody else think of making a dance track (or any track) made almost entirely of reverb? Like taking a synth or any sound, putting reverb on it and taking the dryness all the way down, and only using that?
this sounds like a nightmare, lol

>>70921931
hey anthony, it's kudzu

>>70924227
Yeah, so far it hasn't been as cool as I thought it would be, lol.