Did you know Midori means green in Japanese?

>>70803969
poor men's Ground Zero

>>70804073
anything you can rec?

>>70804115
Ground Zero

>>70804073
not even similar you fucking retarded pseud

>>70804170
it's literally uninspired, overproduced and purely commercial copycat
It's Babymetal of japanese avantgarde rock

Why are japs so good at shoegaze

>>70804268
You missed a thread
We are talking about industrial techno here

>>70804268
They aren't.

>>70804303
But Midori is punk jazz

>>70804268
no one is good at shoegaze because all of it sucks

>>70804321
no

>>70804268
but they aren't lmao

they're only good at making catchy anime OST

>>70804335
wat si it then

>>70804464
hip hop

Why are the Japanese so fucking annoying?

>>70804526
because you're racist

>>70804566
japanes are white
left hate them

>>70804526
Nah Japans aren't pajeets

Midori is also a common japanese girl name.

>>70804484
ambient

>>70804657
ragga jungle

>>70804526
Nah, Japanese are cool.

>>70803969
reminds me of 385

>>70804241
ground zero isn't rock you dumb fuck

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>>70804716
yes, it's >>70804670
go fuck yourself gook

>>70804770
I do believe that is the Wikipedia entry for Midori, not Ground Zero.

>>70804770
>>70804987
how embarrasing

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>>70804987
do you expect me to read all your fucking post you piece of shit?
both of them is rock
>>70805036
shut the fuck up it's not your conversation

>>70805084
>they're both noise rock so they sound the same
Yeah man Shellac sounds just like Les Rallizes Denudes! Fucking tool

Midori is entry level Japanese rock, nothing special really, you like it at first but realize there is much better stuff out there

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first, everyone, shut the fuck up.
midori is a great band and it's not a "poor's man ground zero" ground zero doesn't sound nothing like midori at all, if you don't believe me go listen to SWING.
also, fuck off.

>>70805192
go fuck with your strawman somewhere else retard
i was comparing only two bands and never stated that genre affiliation is what makes them same

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>>70805291
>listen up everyone. I'm right and your wrong so shut the fuck up ok :)

>>70805347
But that's the whole thread.

>>70805291
Honestly I was excited that there was a band that people could call a rich man's midori, but I really can't find a song by them that is anything like midori. Not sure where the comparison comes from

>>70805567
>really can't find a song by them that is anything like midori
Like whole 1993 self titled album nigga?

>>70805611
Okay didn't see that one, that's more similar. Still though, seems kind of pointless to compare a free improv noise rock group to a regular jazz/noise rock group. They're attempting completely different things. Calling them a copycat because they're both noisy, and because Midori occasionally incorporates some noisy free improv seems unfair. I mean there's way more of a difference between them and Midori than there is between any two disparate free improv noise groups.

>>70805802
My point is that midori "noise" is polished and sliced into perfect portions, ready to consume by untutored listener.
Like any perfectly produced japanese idol band it has a key schtick - which is "lel randomnes xD" - thus is my babymetal comparison
Other than that, it's shallow, deeply unhonest creation that serves no purpose other than fill market niche and promote some general Japanese social values (like ok, kid, you can have fun too while you are young ok but be ready for salarymen future don't use drugs be crazy sometimes we japanese are creative too ok) that are inflicted by producer

>>70806073
You don't know anything about Japanese life do you

>>70806136
neither are you

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>>70806156
>neither are you

>>70806168
posting some jewish looking person won't justify your ignorance

>>70806073
Meh, sounds like avant garde cred posturing to me. They're incorporating noise elements into fun jazz punk. "polished" relative to the fucking gerogerigegege but still pretty rough compared to anything else. I think you're reading way to much into what you're assuming their intent was. To promote social values?...

>>70806073
Midori weren't even that big in Japan

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great thread

>>70806262
It is polished and overproduced compared to almost any japan avant project
their schtick with wall of random piano and drum sound is balanced, unoffensive and predictable to almost any listener
Took any onkyo project for example
>To promote social values
In a way any general japanese enterainment for youth is
It has nothing to say other than "it is cool to be young and loudXD but within boundaries, ok"

>>70806531
*Take any onkyo project for example for comarsion

>>70806531
if u dont think onkyo is well produced you dont know what the fuck youre talking about

>>70806531
Your definition of "polished" is pretty skewed if the bar is resting directly above japanese free improv avant rock. If Midori's intent was to create music for people to listen to while standing silently in a dark concrete slab basement and ponder its meaning, then yes it's too polished to be that. I don't think it's clear that that's not the perspective it should be judged from. They were trying to make fun noisy rock music.

>>70806613
>>70806660
By polished production i mean "ready to throw on radio without anybody noticing"

>>70806660
I think it's clear that*

>>70806679
I don't listen to the japanese radio, so I wouldn't know. I don't think it makes sense to criticize something for being listenable. You could just as easily criticize Ground Zero for not just going full-merzbow and producing pure noise.

>>70806747
I not criticizing it for being listenable
I am saying that it has nothing to offer other than loud upbeat sound
It has no idea, no direction, no value

>>70806822
I mean yeah, if someone just listens to shit like the gerogerigegege and Mannequin Neurose, then Midori isn't going to have anything to offer them. But I don't think Midori is attempting to cater to that demographic in the first place. Again, if you didn't come to the party specifically looking for fun noisy punk rock, then you came to the wrong party. It sounds like you're just not into them.

>>70807089
btw to be clear I'm not calling them shit, I was just using "shit" as a synonym for "stuff"

>>70806073
Literally shut the fuck up. Jesus Christ. Fuck you man.

>>70806822
well that's pure presumption

>>70807194
Spotted babymetal fan

>>70806822
Those are not arguments, they're conclusions.
You've provided no proof for anything yet.

>>70807230
You didn't spot anything you deaf ass fuckstain faggot. FUCK. YOU.

>>70806822
if you spoke Japanese, you'd realize their "direction" in every album they put out

>>70807281
What proof do you expect? Scientific paper?
>>70807292
Random pop-punk Nickelback-tier spouting about love, loneliness, dreams, general upbeat "destroy everything" energetic is not what i'd call a clear direction

>>70807416
>What proof do you expect? Scientific paper?
Arguments instead of opinions.

>>70807416
>love, loneliness, dreams, general upbeat "destroy everything" energetic
that kind of sounds like a direction to me. being improvised or sort of loose isnt the same as being completely arbitrary like youre implying by calling it "random". music doesn't need an agenda anyways

>>70806208
neither are you though

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>>70806073

>>70807484
opinions are the superset of arguments
i already gave you enough
listen with your own ears all their shit to realize they don't use the tools they are have for anything other than cool instrumentation
same motives, same structures
>>70807571
>music doesn't need an agenda anyways
it does. more then ever, actually
because postmodern "anything goes because everything is ironic, so we can do simplistic loud shit and pretend it's the way it sould be" attitude had exhausted itself. There is need for strong ideas and its actual implementation
>>70807625
but i aren't posting jews
>>70807644
is that nigga from gybe

>>70807855
Hopefully Midori gets back together and starts playing free noise improv. Then they'll really be unique, like every other free noise improv group.

Why do I get the feel that you people are mostly talking about lyrics rather than the actual music, uh?...

>>70807855
>opinions are the superset of arguments
No they're not, arguments are substantiated by evidence or logical reasonings, opinions are inerently subjective.
>listen with your own ears all their shit to realize they don't use the tools they are have for anything other than cool instrumentation
same motives, same structures
Their instrumentation is actually pretty traditional? Other than some songs having a double bass (which it's not really that odd anyway).
And although they use formulaic structures constantly they have a good deal of songs that don't follow the popular chorus-verse pattern.
I don't know what are "motives".

>>70806073
> My point is that midori "noise" is polished and sliced into perfect portions, ready to consume by untutored listener.
How is that a bad thing?

Anyone know the song with a nice keyboard solo that got deleted by youtube? If i remember well, the clip was her singing in a small room with some dudes

>>70808040
I think it was ドーピングノイズノイズキッス

>>70808040
doping noise noise kiss or something in romanized

>>70808040
Konnjounashi Atashi, Aho Boke, maybe?

how do i get their albums besides just listening to them on youtube?

>>70808136
Just look up for them to download on Google. I guess you can find a place where you can buy them as well.

>>70808136
mu archive, read the sticky

>>70808063

Thank you, anon

>>70807855
>There is need for strong ideas and its actual implementation
concept albums are nice too but it's not like ideology-driven music and music just for the sake of it, or fun, can't coexist. you seem so wrapped up in your completely unfounded opinions it's kind of funny

>>70808157
my b thanks for pointing me in the right direction

>>70803969
wow this is nice, thanks