So why is it that most people dislike metal?

Metal is an abrasive and off putting musical genre that is extremely loud and has death growls and screaming

The only time metal was mainstream was during glam metal and nu metal, both genres are reviled in the metal community, which would rather not be mainstream

>>70796375
Tell that to South America, puta

>>70796375
The musicianship is awful, its a bunch of 30 somethings trying to terrify the squares, white trash love it, there is not real value or heart put into any of it. It just proves all music is awful.

>>70796420

What about power metal and progressive metal? Not all metal is loud with screaming. most of it is very beautiful and technically proficient. It's the modern day classical music.

>>70796475
actually i shat on glam metal, but the glam metal guys where virtuoso guitarists and had insane voices despite dressing like clowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ

>>70796475
>The musicianship

One person can't possibly be THIS stupid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8mMvjonyeo

they look at the fans too seriously

metal owns but the fans are cringeworthy, luckily a lot of them are so cringeworthy they circle back around to being cool

also this
>>70796438

>>70796491
Im not saying screaming is bad, im saying that they dont play a lot of music that has screaming on the radio.
Metal is supposed to be loud and abrasive and scare the normies

>>70796547
They don't really play metal without screaming either, at least not good metal. Most normies consider Slipknot and Five Finger Death Punch "metal".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFr8RgAxMeA
Cos it sucks.

Metal is for children.

>>70796570
Ahh yess, 45/67 times-signatures and virtuoso guitar work is for children.

>>70796517
Eddie is not metal. Eddie is Eddie.
>>70796520
Grow up, young faggot.

>>70796570
I never got this meme, i thought it was good young people listened to meal still.

Then he turns around and makes fun of "dad rock"

Moo really has an ageism problem

Anyways, metal is like some guy off in the corner living in a different world while all the rest of the genres fight each other for popularity

>>70796628
>Unironically using age as an insult

hoo boi.

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>>70796628

>>70796643
>Anyways, metal is like some guy off in the corner living in a different world while all the rest of the genres fight each other for popularity

Jazz id kind of a forgotten genre too, in fact jazz and metal have a lot of similarities.

>>70796681
No, you dont get it, metal is literally the only genre where the fans prefer it not be mainstream or popular

Normies ruin everything, you see.

>>70796655
Do you always believe what is told to you? I guess thats the Heavy Metal way of thinking.

>>70796375
Metal is a genre that was designed from the ground up to be unpleasant to normies.

Even prog metal and power metal is still too dramatic and complicated for the average shitter.

>>70796520
>wants to make a point about metal musicianship
>post shitty djent

Because it's aesthetically uncool and seperate from any other recognisable subcultures. The sound itself is quite impenetrable and if you haven't heard much metal and you listen to a metal radio show it will all sound the same. The fanbase also seems quite intimidating and cultish while being nerdy at the same time.

>>70796782
>referring to djent as a genre and not a distinct guitar style

yep, you're retarded.

>>70796726
You have a point, metal is the only genre that hasn't been completely shat on by normies.

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>>70796782
Too technical for your precious ears?

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>>70796375
it's grimly honest and doesn't tolerate any fucking around
but most people are afraid of the blunt truth of our shit world and would rather prefer to live in their blissful idiocy.

>>70796822
>completely misdirecting

lol

>>70796846
>shitty djent
>technical

lol

Metal is sort of like a secret society where guys with neckbeards can listen to loud growly men and not be bothered by normies.
Metal being mainstream or popular would ruin it, it always does.
So while every other genre is grasping for popularity, metalheads are off in the desert doing guitar solos and banging their head.

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>>70796853
Naisu argument desu.

>>70796832
there have been points in time when metal was absorbed by capitalism and normies but metal crawled back out of its grasps and went back to screaming and singing about legalizing murder

>>70796375
Metal fans are objectively the most obnoxious out of all music genre fans. It's like, they can't just like a genre of music, it has to be their entire fucking identity. Everything about them has to scream "I listen to metal and think it's the only music that's good"

They're incredibly pretentious, with 0 substance to back it up, which is fitting because 99% of metal is pretentious.

>>70796852
>fedora.png

>>70796862
Yep. Do you think I'm interested in doing anything but laughing at you?

lol

>>70796883
Then how come every metal band I see looks totally fucking normal? They all look like average dudes.

You must be talking about black metal fags and deathmetal babies.

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>>70796908
forgot pic

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Like do you really think these guys wanted to get radio plays or be acknowledge by normies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw223-FK-Fw

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>>70796491
>It's the modern day classical music.

>>70796928

You're right, it's actually more technical and complex than classical music.

>>70796908
Metal fans. People who actually make metal music are a lot more tolerable than the people who exclusively listen to it.

Also, 3/5 of those people definitely don't look like 'average dudes' and the other two are borderline.

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Climbing up the charts lads

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>>70796940

>>70796940
Maybe if you're a wank who cares only about "m-muh complex meters!"

>>70797003
Or if you're not a pathetic pleb that actually understands music theory? Go back to your meme non-music plz.

>>70796955
I'll repeat, only black metal and death metal fags are that extreme, including the bands. Just look at >>70796977 FFS. Some are obnoxious and live the whole "metal" lifestyle but not all.

>>70797003
>replying to such obvious bait

Metal has never been acknowledged by the mainstream because by nature its loud and annoying.
This is what metal fans like about it.
So this forms a cult like mentality were metal heads are fine with not being popular. You are either in it or you are not.

Actually this is probably a very good way for survival of a music genre, other music genres have been absorbed by pop or disposed of.

You wont hear taylor swift or beyonce doing death growls

Metal is a genre that is like reverse psychology, it sticks its tongue out at the mainstream and loves pissing people off.

>>70797097
It's not baiting, classical music is not as complex as metal. Are you really this pleb?

>>70797032
If you actually wanted well composed music, you'd listen to classical

>>70797097
I reply to any and all (You)s

>>70796893
>normie.bmp

>>70797178
And I do listen to classical, so I can tell you first hand it's not as complex as metal lol.

>>70797230
make it spicier and I might bite

>>70796375
A lot of people are stupid and have a warped perception of what metal is. If you say metal most people immediately think of edgy screams, growls, drop tuned chugging riffs, and loud, pounding bass drum beats. This is retarded because those things are only found in certain sub genres of metal, but metal also includes heavy and glam metal, which have both always been pretty mainstream friendly genres that even a lot of normies enjoy. Bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden are pretty popular, well known, and have music played on the radio, which is as mainstream as it gets, but they are metal bands. I also get the feeling that normies who listen to bands like this consider them rock bands because, as I said, they're stupid and don't understand that it doesn't have to be face meltingly extreme to be metal. To answer your question, I don't think most people dislike metal, but they listen to some of it without realizing they're listening to metal.

>>70797162
You tried

>>70797178
What the fuck is wrong with you? Stop feeding him.

>>70797262
>>70797295
Two numbshits who don't study music that think saying classical music isn't as musically complex is "bait"?

I'm not talking about the musical arrangement, but the music itself.

>>70797346
You should keep trying to convince me you're not baiting. It would be good for some more laughs.

>>70797365
Or, you can try to actually produce and argument instead of assuming everything you disagree with is "bait". You won't though, because you know you'll get burned.

>>70797295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4pj7RByIeA&t=207s

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>>70797382
Very nice. Do it again.

>>70797405
I hope you don't expect me to watch that for more than 20 seconds.

>>70797428
I forgot that /mu/'s general age is around the same as the kid's in that video.

>>70797451
>implying only a child wouldn't want to watch reaction videos

You've got it completely backwards, senpai.

>>70797451
>the same age as the kid is in that video

What did he mean by this?

>>70797405
i want all of those kids to be executed, except the black girl and the girl with the flower crown

>>70797533
Come on, dude. Cut them some slack. You were a dumbass little kid once. We all were.

>>70797365
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_metal

Neoclassical metal is a subgenre of heavy metal that is heavily influenced by classical music and usually features very technical playing,[1][Note 1] consisting of elements borrowed from both classical and speed metal music. Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore pioneered the subgenre by merging classical melodies and blues rock. Later, Yngwie Malmsteen became one of the most notable musicians in the subgenre, and contributed greatly to the development of the style in the 1980s.[1][Note 2][2] Other notable players in the genre are Randy Rhoads, Jason Becker, Tony MacAlpine, Vinnie Moore, Uli Jon Roth, Stéphan Forté and Timo Tolkki

>>70797600
What is that supposed to prove?

>>70796375
Without memeing or "metal is the new classical", probably this:

- harsh vocals (growls, barks, screams, shrieks)
- heavily distorted guitars and bass, makes them sound unnatural to the average ear
- likewise, drums are assaulting, not just keeping rhythm, makes them overbearing sometimes and adds to overall "unnaturalness" of sound
- in terms of looks, average metalhead/metal band member looks kinda unapproachable/disheveled and not appealing to talk to, leading to bad stigma
- lyrical themes that deal with things in an honest and straightforward manner, that people don't like to think/talk about (life/death, political and philosophical issues, inner life, sometimes Satan & co)
- most of metal is a complete 180 of what you expect from music if you're not familiar with metal (goes even more for extreme variants of metal)

>>70797618
That you're retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZiD_z-i3Ng

>>70797618
that there is a metal genre that takes high technical skill and is influenced by classical music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4

>>70797655
I never argued against that. The dude said metal was more complex than classical music, which was obviously bait because most genres of metal aren't.

>>70797683
Prgoressive metal, neo-classical, Symphonic, and yes even D-D-Djent-Djent are more complex than classical metal, hell even some forms of Thrash are. Shit like metalcore need not apply.

>>70797727
>than classical metal

I mean classical music.

>>70797727
So is this going somewhere or are you just rattling off dumb shit that nobody cares about?

metal is the best https://youtu.be/U3zb1t8g_W8

>>70797778
Why are you even in this thread? Shouldn't you be listening to shit equivalent to R2D2 raping a printer?

>>70797805
I like heavy metal. I just don't like the tryhard shit you're describing that sounds like it's written and played by a robot.

>>70797829
Oh right, because muh generic 4/4 3 chord progression garbage is so emotional, right?

>>70797863
It's pretty funny watching you get mad. Do it again.

>>70797829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLEg7pykKE

This sounds like it's written and played by a robot to you?

>>70797863
>>70797829
>>70797805
>>70797778
Pure fucking autism.

>>70797886
>he thinks this is more complex than Mozart

O I am laffin'

>>70797901
Pure fucking autism.

I don't really see this "most people dislike metal" thing. Most people I've met that are into music started by listening to metal, and I don't mean nu metal. Every single day I take the train or bus I see people with a metal band shirt. I live in Italy and I'd say metal is one of the most popular genres

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>>70797908
I'm still waitin' to hear how mozart is more complex, plz do tell us.

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For many people, heavy metal is today's real rock-and-roll, the music of the people. It's basic, it's rude, kids love it, parents hate it. But a closer look reveals how stupid and delusory it is. Metal is not basic--it cultivates a pseudo-virtuosity that negates content. The dreams it promulgates are foolish and often destructive. Eighty percent of the "people" who like it are male and 98% of them are white.

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>>70797951
Now this, this is bait.

>>70797942
Hell, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how it isn't XD

>>70797969
Look up math metal.

>>70797951
2/10 bait, but we appreciate the effort

>>70796491
You're being too obvious with your bait.

>>70796375

Because when you say metal the first thing that comes to mind is boring death metal.

Probably because normal people can't appreciate distorted guitars and a guy screaming about Satan and wanting to drink newborn babies' blood.

>ranking meal

>>70797995
And what will that achieve? I'm serious. I want you to tell me what that will achieve.

>>70798042
>a guy screaming about Satan and wanting to drink newborn babies' blood.
But a lot of metal doesn't have that.

>>70798054
It'll slightly elevate you from pleb status for one because if I start getting into oddmeter and complex rhythms you'll start crying "a-autist!".

>>70798070
How's the view from inside your own asshole? Must be dark, which would explain your closed mind.

it's got no swing to it
the lyrics are cringey
actually, the whole aesthetic is cringey
the music is typically banal and hyper macho
solo solo solo
no feeling to it

there is no quality that metal has that isn't better handled in other genres.

>>70798109
>it's got no swing to it

What the fuck does that even mean?

I like some metal but a lot of it is 'cringy'. Screaming all the time just doesn't feel authentic to me, and that's something I appreciate a lot in music.

>>70798130
it aint no thang if aint got thatt swang

>>70798132
Then don't fucking listen to metal with screaming in it you retard.

>>70798144
wow i never thought of that! this thread is asking why people don't like metal, please use ur brain cells

>>70798130
That it's just a flat wall of noise with no dynamics. Which is funny because back at the beginning, Black Sabbath had lots of swing and Bill Ward was very much like Ginger Baker stylistically.

>>70798174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ST85Sui43Q

>>70798174
Untrue.

>>70796852
are you 12?

A lot of metal is loud and noisy
Most people don't like to listen to music that is loud and noisy.

>>70796920
All of those guys look like faggots.

>only one of them has long hair

Fucking poser fags

>>70798232
*trap music and dubstep plays in the background*

>>70796832
Well, there's smooth jazz and nu-jazz.

>>70798109
>there is no quality that metal has that isn't better handled in other genres.
riffs.

>>70798270
What does one riff signify that another riff doesn't?

>>70796832
Have you forgotten glam metal? It's literally heavy metal mixed with pop.

Can someone explain this "metal is loud and noisy" argument to me? Any music can be loud by turning up the volume, and you can call any music you are not into/don't understand - "noisy"

>>70796883
there's nothing wrong with a sense of belonging to a culture and showing it, libtard

metal is seriously the most gay genre there is

>>70798276
what the fuck kind of question is that

>>70798290
there's a difference between belonging to a culture and making it your entire identity

>>70798292
Rap

>>70798320
queercore

>>70798323
Again my point that most people are stupid and have a warped perception of what metal is has been proven.

Metallica's One, Megadeth's Rust in Peace and Black Sabbath, etc. is in my opinion where the genre peaked (I know that those bands don't belong to the same subgenres of metal). Lyrics can actually be understood and are not about metal, steel, wheels and any other clichés. Questioning ones life, the purpose of it, questions about religion, obedience, wars is what metal did the best. When glam metal appeared, a love acoustic guitar ballad was almost ubiquitous along with songs about love affairs, underwear, makeup, partying, etc. I think that after that people had a hard time taking metal seriously and not just glam metal.

>>70796375
i used to really be into metal. now when I listen back, a lot of it is gay and hasnt aged well with the exception of a small number of groups AAL being one off the top of my head. I'm into other things now and plus the sight of a full grown man walking around in "metal-head" attire is pretty sad imo. but whatever. fashion is an artistic choice, a reflection of the person

>>70798427
What I mean by not just glam metal is that many metal bands tried to sound modern and acceptable and proceeded to make mediocre or bad albums. Take Judas Priest's Turbo Lover for example. They did return to what they were, but not the same can be said about the majority of similar bands.

>>70798192
The one at 0:38-58 is the only good one

>>70796375

It's fucking childish

>>70796438

South America has always been 30 years behind the first world

>>70796852
Being honest doesn't mean by default that it is good, honest expressions can be ugly too

>>70797655
It's as if a classical composer was mentally a child

>>70798070
metal is inherently pleb my guy

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>hurr durr muh classical more complex than metal and durr hurr my metal more complex than classical
both are made by wankers and that what makes it so great.

>>70797655
>high technical skill
>posts Yngwie
Are you a teenager? Did you recently pick up a guitar and start learning? Serious question because every serious music I know, including myself, knows the difference between wankery and playing music. Listening to Yngwie shred the same Eb minor scalar patterns over and over doesn't make the music good, if anything it just shows the lack of maturity in your ear. People get off to this, I get it, but the people that do aren't good musicians or serious ones which by default makes it not good. Yngwie is shred guitars' tool or dream theater. babys first metal

>>70798672
>because every serious music I know, including myself
>serious music
>including myself

Did you have a concussion? But I still agree with you

>>70798672
>tells us all how the music he listens to makes him so much better than everyone else
>are you a teenager?

Are you?

>>70798528
i can't think of a single music genre made after the 70's that isn't childish

>>70798427
>>70798459
Reasonable posts don't get any replies, but boy is it great to argue about Yngwie Malmsteen for the thousandth time.

>>70798724
No? I have a degree in music performance and play music full time. my peers, teachers, and myself play high level gigs regularly. we actually play music and not jerk each other off and call that music.


>>70798711
It's very late and I've been playing for the last ~6 hours, mistakes happen

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>>70798848
lmao get a load of this guy

>>70798848
How can you see your computer screen with your head that far up your own ass?

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>>70798884
a full time musician on a music board? WOAH DUDE

>your average Yngwie fanboy

>>70798924
>Implying I listen to Yngwie

I listen to whatever I think sounds good. Good music and bad music are concepts fabricated by insecure individuals who are always looking for ways to feel superior to others.

>>70798923
are you intimidated by musicians or something? why do I have to conceal the fact that I'm doing what all of you faggots dream of doing full time and do well and have a solid network of working professional musicians? jesus christ kid

>>70798731
>>70798602
fuck yo 4chan-distorted views on normativity and maturity senpaitachi

>>70798672
>doesn't make the music good
actually why not, and what does that have to do with being mature

>>70798945
oh it's just a fabrication. okay, take an audition and after you suck ass, tell the guys you're auditioning for that good and bad playing are just concepts fabricated by insecure individuals who are always looking for ways to feel superior to others. I'm sure they'll come around and hire you for their 2 month tour that pays handsomely.

>>70798946
When you shit do you have to pull it out so you don't shit in your own mouth? I imagine that would be pretty gross.

is there a worse thing than people saying "x isn't REAL genre y" ?

>>70798968
That's an awful lot of words to put in my mouth. Also good job missing my point by a mile.

>>70798968
that doesn't technically disprove his point, you're just saying that there is some consensus

>>70796599
>virtuoso guitar work

looooooooooooool

>>70798989
what do you mean? where does music come from? it comes for people, doesn't it? someone physically manipulates an instrument to make music. you're saying good and bad music is a construct and by association good and bad playing is also a construct. I'm telling you that the real world doesn't work that you. you don't get hired because you can play an Eb minor scale at 320 bpm, you get hired because you are disciplined enough to know what the music calls for, whatever the setting is, and how to make it feel good, correct note choice, knowing your role and knowing when you can and can't stretch out on your solos or when you're accompanying someone else's solos. There consensus is in the people touring the U.S and the world with big acts. Why do you think Yngwie is a solo player? No one wants to fucking hire him lmao

>>70799082
Alright, I'll explain it to you since you can't figure it out. I'm only talking about musicians that are actually in bands and recording or gigging. People that are playing professionally. I'm not considering Joey in his bedroom with his drumkit or Bobby with his 200 dollar guitar and 500 dollar amp. The Beatles aren't any better than Cannibal Corpse. Beethoven isn't any better than Blondie. The Clash isn't any better than Nirvana. How "good" or "bad" music is, like I said, is just some shit that a bunch of pussies made up because they were insecure and needed a way to measure themselves against other in a way that favors them.

>>70799161
Like this faggot right here

>>70798672
>>70798848
>>70798924

Can't handle the thought that he is just another human like you or me. That makes him uncomfortable. He wants to feel like a higher being, so he follows these concepts and talks big about having a degree in music (OOOOOHH AAAAAAH) and "playing high level gigs" (OOOOOOOH) when the reality is he will die just like us one day and he will either be buried in the ground or incinerated. He's no better than you or I. He's just a person. But the truth frightens him.

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metal never reinventend itself after Pantera metal died

>>70799161
Do you watch sports? Football maybe?
Are some strikers better than others? Yes, there are stats to prove that. Are some fullbacks better than others? Yes, there are stats to prove that. While there isn't musical stats (not counting record sales because we all know that's not an indicator of how good a musician is, look at meg white, a god awful drummer but makes a fuck ton of money) to compare musicians and bands, musicians who are actually aware of their ability and aware of the ability of the masters on their respective instrument can easily see the difference in musicianship. The Clash is fucking garbage when you compare them to kneebody. they aren't the same genre (or position to go back to the football analogy) but the level of musicianship is clearly tilted to the side of the kneebody guys. kneebody is a better band than the clash. why? harmonic density and complexity, constantly shifting rhythms playing off one another, ridiculous collective of ridiculous musicians vs LONDONS CALLING!!! *smash guitar*

>>70798950
it's objectively true though

>>70799244
>I consider art the same way I consider competition sports

>>70799213
Sounds like you're upset that I'm living the life of a professional musician. I will have died having not worked a day job and sustained myself solely through music and the network of musicians who continue to hire me. the music degree is just the icing on the network cake because once I'm done performing and get tired of being on the road, guess what I get to do? Teach at a university! Yay academia! I'm so uncomfortable playing all this music man! I can't take it!

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Heavy metal is a world of its own, and even listeners who grew up on AOR like Led Zeppelin and Quiet Riot seldom maintain a continued appreciation for it. Rock intellectuals invariably prefer punk, alternative, even hip-hop.

As one of those rock intellectuals, I remain unconverted. For most of us, metal's rhetoric-drenched neoclassical sound is exactly what rock-and-roll was put on Earth to save us from. Its phallic narcissism is unrivaled outside of bathroom wall jokes, X-rated movies, and (oh yes) hip-hop.

>>70799258
not an argument

>>70799295
Music is competition though you moron. In this day and age especially. What the fuck do you think auditions are? Not every band can play at the best venues every night. I get it, you don't have much real world music experience, but if you were to ever get out there and try to make a living playing music, you'd quickly understand where the competition fits in the mix. you have to be good if you want people to listen to you, if the band down the street is kicking ass and your sucking it up like the basement dweller you are, guess what! you lose out on a crowd, money, and potentially a gig because no venue owner wants an empty venue! and just because that's the case doesn't mean musicians are at each others throats all the time. I'm always in competition with my peers moving up the network in the city but we still get together and shed together, transcribe music together, jam together, to get better together. it's not one or the other, it's a mixture of both. Go out and hang in New York for a week or two, sit in at a jam session and try not to suck and see what happens.

>>70799244
>the clash is fucking garbage compared to kneebody

How so? Because their music is more complex? That doesn't make them better. It makes them more complex. "Better" is nothing but an opinion, and more complex =/= better. I believe that when it comes to listening to music, literally the only thing that matters is whether you enjoy it or not. You can compare the technical aspects of songs all day and argue who's "better", but in the end you just look and sound like a stuck up asshole that no one but other stuck up assholes wants to be around.

>>70796375

It was cool and challenging to play at one point in its history. But now the guitar tabs read like binary code

>>70799296
See? You came back to this thread to spout off all of that nonsense just to stroke your own ego. If you didn't have any way to do that, you would be miserable. I feel bad for you. I really do. That's assuming you're even telling the truth.

[spoiler]I know you're not :^)[/spoiler]

>>70796375
Who gives a shit?

>>70799355
You go ahead and keep believing that. That's like when leftists romanticize communism. It sounds great in writing, but it's not the way the world actually works for living, breathing, working musicians.

Kneebody is better not only because of the complexity that takes a deep understanding of harmony/rhythm which requires years and years of studying and listening to your predecessors, they are better because of that and the execution of the music is at such a high level that the clash literally cannot compete and to even take it to a further level, it's mostly improvised music, no two performances are exactly the same that's art for the moment in the moment. the level of musicianship required to pull that off is somethgin I don't think you understand at all. *smash guitar*


>>70799389
(you)

>>70799469
"Better" is nothing but your opinion. There is no fact to it at all.

ITT: nu-males

>>70799498
You're God damn right.

>>70799489
oh you silly fool.
>musician of 40 years
>3 year old child
the musician of 40 years is no better than the 3 year old who cannot hold the instrument because better is nothing but an opinion.
Do you see how that's flawed? When you're talking musical execution inherently facility, technique, musical choices all come into play. I can keep trying to explain this to you but I get the feeling you just won't get it until you experience it first hand. Go to your local jazz club in town during the jam session and sit in on drums. Whether or not you actually play drums is beside the point. Go and sit in on drums and report back to us what happens. I'm going to tell you what happens, they're going to call a standard that you will have never heard (but every jazz musician worth their weight in salt should know by heart) and you're not going to know what to play. you've never actually played drums so you're going to have no concept of dynamic control of the instrument and you're either going to play too loud or too soft because of the crippling fear and anxiety of having got up on stage not having ever played drums and you're supposed to be making music with people for the first time.
>But good is just an opinion!!
You will get vibed out and asked to get off the bandstand and no one will want to play with you again until you rectify your mistakes (you actually learn how to play the instrument, proper technique, you transcribe, you do your listening homework, etc)

>>70796375
>isnt very pleasant to listen to unless youre already a fan
>its not very danceable, and often prioritizes guitar wankery above groove, with a few exceptions
>lyrics often completely incomprehensible, and any time you can hear or understand the lyrics they are rarely happy or uplifting
>particularly vocal fans are the ones that are autists about metal

>>70799557
see>>70799161
I've already been through this. I'm not surprised you lack the intelligence to grasp what I'm saying. You just take everything literally because that's the easy way right?

gay faggots

>>70799582
>I didn't really mean what I said!
Why are you acting like a female then? If you're so intelligent why can't you clearly and concisely state what you're trying to say? I've already told you that this notion of "bro music is art not competition!" is bullshit based on real world experiences. you keep wanting to hang on this "bro it's about having a bigger epeen on the internet!" when that's not at all what I'm talking about. I'm telling there kneebody has a higher level of musicianship than the clash, therefore they are better musicians who make better and far more interesting music. LONDONS CALLING *smash guitar*

>>70799687
Look at those mental gymnastics.

>>70799721
not an argument.

>>70799726
Which is fitting because nothing you've said has been an argument either XD

>>70799743
Oh really? I pretty sure I made it clear that a high level of musicianship and the work that comes with that (years of study, transcription, practice, and listening) are determinants of "good" musicians and "Bad" musicians who consequently make "good" music and "bad" music. but it's just easier to ignore that bro art isn't about competiion! xD

>>70796491
It's still loud, fast, and complicated. just not accessible to the Whatever's On The Radio Played At A Reasonable Volume crowd

>>70799779
>a high level of musicianship and the work that comes with that (years of study, transcription, practice, and listening) are determinants of "good" musicians and "Bad"
>good and bad

Ah, there's those opinions (not facts) again.

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>>70797405
Hehe play them some Nile, now that would be interesting

>>70799820
yes, you keep saying that as if it makes it not true. but like I said earlier, it's clear you aren't a working musician, hence your ignorance

>>70799836
So is your asshole tight on your head or have you been this way so long it's loosened up enough that it's comfortable?

>>70799866
whats the matter bby? my facts are too much for you to handle? do working musicians scare you?

>>70796375
pretty simple: most find aggression hard to digest as pleasure

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>>70799915
This is too good dude. Keep going.

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>>70799966
oh yes your tight asshole posting is really good stuff too! tell me again how varying degrees of musicianship does not exist and tell me more about tight assholes. i better post a stupid picture too because that just means my comment is 1upping yours too

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>>70799993
lmao dude you're so mad

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>>70800054
yes please tell me what I'm feeling right now
you know me so well, so well I didn't even know I was mad until I was informed by you the all mighty master of music, art, and compet- oh wait no competition doesn't exist in art my bad XD

>>70799993
>>70800082
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you ruin a thread. Good job I guess. Not the person you were originally replying to though.

>>70800094
ruin a thread? the thread was about metal, the thread was ruined from the start

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>>70800082
>the all mighty master of music and art

LMAO DUDE YOU JUST FUCKING ADMITTED THAT I'M THE MASTER OF MUSIC AND ART. YOU FUCKING SAID IT YOURSELF DUDE. HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING DUMB???

>>70800123
the moment you dropped the truth bomb that competition has no place in art, even though competition has historically pushed art, in this case music, forward. Tony Williams isn't a product of competition. Thomas Pridgen/Tony Royster/Ronald Bruner/insert other gospel artist here isn't a product of competition. Charlie Parker isn't a product of competition, he didn't push the music forward or anything. truly the master of art and music. a masterful display of ignance

>>70800123
and i bet you're too dumb to draw the parallels between kneebody and bebop too.

muh non competitive art

>>70800161
What the fuck does any of that have to do with the idea that "good" and "bad" music are false concepts created by insecure little bitches?

>>70800190
your entire premise is bullshit retard

>>70800177
Are we bringing up irrelevant topics now? The Empire State Building was built in 1931 and was the tallest manmade structure in the world at the time.

>>70800214
proving my point, thanks idiot

>>70800200
>your premise is bullshit
>but my premise that my opinion is literally fact is totally reasonable

>>70800228
What point? lmao

>>70800237
it's like chatting with a brick wall
I get it, you suck at music and don't want to feel bad about it so you put up this front that IT'S JUST OPINIONS BRO IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING EVERYONE IS JUST INSECURE when in reality in the working musician world your ability to play your instrument and make music is entirely dependent on the quality of player you are and that directly effects the quality of the music and it's clear in my world who can hang and who can't. it's clear you aren't a part of the world, probably some teenager that spends way too much time on /mu/, instead of doing that you should probably go practice so you don't sound like dog shit.

>>70800258
that you're retarded, as per >>70800177

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>>70800314
You sound upset friendo.

>>70800333
see>>70800214

>>70800363
>u mad bro
genius! it's like you revert to it everytime you can't rebuke an argument

>>70800377
see>>70800333

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>>70800382
>can't rebuke an argument

At least I had one to begin with lmao

>>70800393
see>>70800393

>>70800431
>there's no such thing as good and bad music it's just opinions made by insecure people

>no, good and bad music comes from good and bad players which is not opinion and this is how you prove that, sit your ass down behind a drum set at a jam session and see what happens when a bad musician (you) plays music
not everyone gets a trophy in music, no matter how much you cry about it

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>>70800474
Look at that strawman. Why would I want anyone to get trophies? I just listen to what I think sounds good lmao

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>>70796375
I'm going to mainly focus on this garbage board. People usually hate it and trash talk it here, because, even though this sounds as cliche as possible, they just don't understand the appeal of the genre. Considering /mu/tards praise themselves over liking god tier anti-normo music, they just can't get into metal because it intimidates them and they resort to pathetic "le metal is for kids XDD" posts and that jazz. Not to mention the fact they'll complain about it's fanbase, which has it's own retards, but what fanbase doesn't? And one of my favorite reasons, "hurr durr metalheads don't have any music range", although that may be true for some fans, metalheads are some of the most versatile people you'll meet, so you're wrong yet again.

>>70796475
Keep deluding yourself, friendo.

>>70796570
le "teen angst" the genre, eh? XDDD

>>70796859
metal isn't a secret club, not anymore that is.

>>70796883
Not an argument, since this is true for almost any fandom, faggot. And no, average metalhead is still less annoying than your average /mu/tard. They're literally the embodiment of pretentiousness.

Just give it up you two.

>>70800546
>average /mu/ tard is literally the embodiment of pretentiousness

Tell me about it. There's one lurking in here right now.

>>70800530
look at that projection
>good and bad music judgements are made by insecure people who want to feel superior
totally has nothing to do with the level of musicianship involved
b-b-b-but i just listen to what i like lmaoo
yeah of course you do, that's why you don't play music

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>>70800578
you're so mad lmao

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>>70800580
>you shouldn't listen to what you like

>>70800604
you're so mad lmao

>>70800580
>you shouldn't listen to what you like

This is getting saved. You can't make this shit up.

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>>70800578
And it's you!

>>70800675
No, I don't shit on other people's taste in music because I'm not a little bitch lmao

>>70800620
and that's why I know you aren't a musician. I have to listen to tunes I'm not hip to all the time, but it gives insight into my own playing and how I approach my own music AND I can play the music I don't like well which makes me a better musician overall and more often than not I end up walking away with an idea I wouldn't have otherwise had the chance to listen to.

this tune is a great example of that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQSTfHPlnDk
I fucking hate the overall sound of the tune, but the bass drum patter is 3 over 2 and the ending has sick rhythmic work that I wouldn't have heard otherwise

>>70800700
Then you're ok, my dude, have a good day!

bunch of retards in here, but to be expected from metal heads. low barrier of entry into the music usually means shit players and stupid people

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>>70800721
Go back to your mother's tit with your projections, faggot.

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>>70800702
>literally arguing that you shouldn't listen to what you like
>literally arguing the exact opposite of that

Seriously. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried.

>>70800771
prove me wrong. post a video of you playing various styles of music.
play over:
samba
rumba clave
rhythm changes
generic metal riff and solo
play all your modes and the modes of modes

go on faggot otherwise get the fuck out of here you worthless sack of shit and take a fucking shower

>>70800819
Fucking seriously? What a fucking whimp you are, acting all tough on the internet and projecting, on 4chan of all places. I pitty your parents, they didn't abort on time and now they have to suffer.

>>70800721
you seem like an insignificant sad and bitter individual

I think most people don't understand or want to understand metal. I can see why it's disliked.

The modern, wacken-friendly polished approach with it's caricatured, dressed up extremity is funny to most people, even metalheads.

Real metal is either funny or too strange for normies because the abrasiveness, unhinged violence and filth makes for an unpleasant cocktail. This is the outer layer of metal and if it doesn't appeal to you, you're not very likely to explore or notice the subtleties. If you're not into shooting guns, you're not very likely to become a marksman, are you now?

And as for /mu/ and why it's disliked here, well that's even more simple. Lots of young faggots who fancy themselves sophisticated and in-the-know. They're under the illusion their taste matters to anyone.

I don't necessarily hate it but it gives me a headache.

>>70800781
>literally arguing that you shouldn't listen to what you like
Care to quote exactly where I literally argue this.

None musicians don't have to learn music, so of course you're going to stick to your 5 or 6 bands that you listen to on repeat. As a working musician I'm required to listen to whatever the bandleader asks of me, original or covers, and I as a musician listen to the work of musicians I admire, whether or not I like the music is irrelevant. there is information being transmitted and you don't get that, and that's fine, but you literally don't know what the fuck you're saying

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>>70799498
>he thinks it's nu-males that don't like metal
>he doesn't realize it's strictly manchildren that wear horrible chinbeards throw devil horns up, yell about being misunderstood and angry that listen to metal
>he doesn't realize metal is for children
>he thinks metal is super tough
>is a total fuckin fruitcake
>doesn't realize that metal fans are equally cringey to nu-males
lmao dude

>>70796375
Because for a normal person it's too "out there" and abrasive, and for someone that knows shit about music it's easy to realize that behind the overly distorted vocals and (sometimes) harsh vocals are there to masquerate the formulaic structure and absolutely conventional adherence to traditional music rules, in short, it's not abrasive or interesting enough.
Only people in the middle of not knowing shit and knowing too much care about it.

>>70800875
What kind of music do you usually listen to?

>>70800851
do you go to metal shows? do you like being pushed around by neckbeards? have you been to other venues to watch other musicians other than metal? it's not about being in the know, it's about not getting sweat from some fat fuck on you and listening to incredible musicians play incredible music, and if you're a musician, learning from the people you admire and 99,8% of the musicians I admire and respect greatly don't play metal because they play adult music

>>70800898
>overly distorted vocals
overly distorted guitars*

>>70800879
My argument is actually pretty simple and flawless. I'm saying you're a stuck up bitch.

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>>70800902
Trip-hop mostly.

>>70800910
If you don't want to be in the pit, then don't be in one. It's that simple. Now, if some fat fuck is fucking with you on purpose, then that's because he's a retard and you shouldn't generalize everyone based on it.

>>70800893
Generalizing the whole genre based on surface bands is immature and retarded. Are you fucking 12?

>>70800927
I'm stuck up because game recognizes game? No, I'm not stuck up, you're just musically retarded. if you would spend more then a decade playing an instrument seriously, you would know, but you don't so you cry hurrr durrr ur stuck up
kek

>>70796375
no hot chicks

>>70800910
>do you go to metal shows?
Yes. Less so these days because I'm paranoid about fucking up my ears. And if I'm gonna wear plugs, I might as well listen to music at home.

>do you like being pushed around by neckbeards
Not by neckbeards specifically, but there's nothing wrong with pushing around and being pushed around. Sure, you're likely to end up in some sweatball's armpit at some point, but who gives a shit, you'll survive.

>have you been to other venues to watch other musicians other than metal?
Sure. Is this going anywhere?

>it's not about being in the know, it's about not getting sweat from some fat fuck on you and listening to incredible musicians play incredible music, and if you're a musician, learning from the people you admire and 99,8% of the musicians I admire and respect greatly don't play metal because they play adult music
See, you should have opened the post with this. I would have just disregarded it but now I have all this typed out so here's a (you).

Music is for gays. Bad music (metal) is even worse.

>>70800951
See? You're back to stroking your ego. You think you're better than me somehow even though we're both flesh and blood that will one day die and rot, forgotten by time. I feel bad for you. I really do.

>enter thread
>"metal is the modern day classical music" not even 10 posts in

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>>70801006
dat nihilist edge
is this you? yes I am better than you. I'm a better musician than you. I've put in more time into my craft than you have, I've listened to more music than you have, I am absolutely better than you. my flesh and blood has done thousands of repetitions and reinforcing my muscle memory. I will die and rot (fucking edgy faggot lmfao) but before that I will spend my entire life playing music and my instrument, just like I have been for the last 20 some odd years of my life. get over it. i'm better than you

>>70801068
pasta?

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>>70801068
>I am better than you

Holy fuck you actually said it unironically

>>70801101
get over it, I'm better than you.
muh rotting flesh

>>70801112
get over it, I'm better than you.
muh rotting flesh

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>>70801112
>>70801068

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>>70801122
>metal isn't for children
>metalheads are smart
I'm better than you

>>70801112
Listen to >>70801132

You've lost everything. You really have no choice but to walk away.

>>70801155
I'm better than you

>>70801140
>metal isn't for children
>metalheads are smart
I'm better than you

>>70801166
I'm better than you

I used to hate metal and thought it was noise for children.
Then I had a phase for a few years when it was over half of what I lstened to and defeneded it .
Now I'm kind of tired of it, I still listen to some, but can't defend it anymore seeing how cringeworthy most of the fanbase is.

>>70801068

I hope:

- You are joking.
- You are no older than 20~25.
- You are American.

These are all somewhat valid excuses for being such a witless dullard.

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>>70801171
I feel bad for you. Maybe one day you'll grow up Timmy.
I'm better than you

>>70801199
Dude's a waste of life. I've had him eating out of my ass for the past half hour. It's unreal. And yet he claims to be the all knowing master of music.

>>70801231

Is he good at it, at least? Eating ass?

>>70801215
I feel bad for you. Maybe one day you'll grow up Timmy.
I'm better than you

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>>70801231
Where did I claim to be the all knowing master of music. Please use direct quotes and link the post number.
I love how you don't acknowledge that it goes both ways.
>I've had him eating out of my ass for the past half hour

DUDE METAL LMAO

>>70801242
He's amazing at it. This is the most fun I've ever had on /mu/.

>>70801252
Where did I claim to be the all knowing master of music. Please use direct quotes and link the post number.
I love how you don't acknowledge that it goes both ways.
>I've had him eating out of my ass for the past half hour
DUDE METAL LMAO

>>70801263

Well, that's commendable. Perhaps you and indeed, a lot of people out there think eating ass is not respectable. I don't think much of it either. But it's a skill and I can respect that.

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>MEALHEADS

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>>70801280

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DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

>>70801307
DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

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>>70801317
>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

>>70801334
>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

>>70801340
>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST
>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST
>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

>>70801307

Most Cradle of Filth songs are about fucking though. But k.

>>70796375
It's pretty obvious isn't it. Most people dislike stuff outside their comfort zone.

>>70801376
>he unironically listens to craddle of filth

>>70801398
or you know, metal just sucks ass and appeals to angsty teens
but manchildren won't admit to being exactly that

>>70801403

It's spelled "Cradle of Filth".

>>70801358
>>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST
>>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST
>>>DUDE ROTTING FLESH AND BLOOD ITS ALL MEANING LESS
>>>WHY DOES NO ONE UNDER STAND ME OR MY ANGST

>>70801421
what the fuck does that matter? the music still fucking sucks retard

>>70801420
Your favorite genre is no better.

>>70801420
Says the image obsessed hipster

>>70801444
oh really? tell me more about my image I'm obsessed with.

>>70801443
oh it is, I'm just better than you

>>70801439

It's important to try and maintain literacy.

>>70801453
oh it is, I'm just better than you

>>70800819
Someone in this very thread just posted a twelve-foot ninja song that has varying styles and tempo changes.

Tobin Abasi has roots in jazz. You obviously don't study music because you don't know what the fuck you're yapping about.

>>70801460
none of the metalheads I went to high school with went to university. you should be telling that to your manchild buddies

>>70801463
Someone in this very thread just posted a twelve-foot ninja song that has varying styles and tempo changes.

Tobin Abasi has roots in jazz. You obviously don't study music because you don't know what the fuck you're yapping about.

>>70801463

It's a jazz-is-sophisticated episode.

>>70801463
what are tobin's roots in jazz. he doesn't play bebop. complex harmony =/= jazz harmony
you're think of matt gartska who actually studied jazz at berklee
I know for a fact I know more than anymore in this thread

>>70801472

I don't know what kind of country you live in, but by the time you've finished high school, you should be literate.

You people are still at it, wow...

>>70801493
How is jazz harmony not complex, particularly bebop?

>>70801494
they were too busy bashing eachothers heads in, giving themselves brain damage by headbanging like retards, and punching each other in the balls because thats a metal guy thing to do

>>70801494
i bet he's South American.

>>70801493
So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?

And Tobin Abasi actually studied music at a highly proclaimed music college as well. This whole "lol ye bro, metal has no range" shit needs to die. How the fuck could you possibly say that, when there are like a million sub-genres and then most bands play multiple of said sub-genres?

>>70801507
reading comprehension retard i didn't say bebop harmony isn't complex, just because tosin's harmony is complex does not mean it's jazz harmony. that being said most of bebop is ii V is anyway, so it's hardly difficult if you aren't a complete fucking retard which pretty much everyone in this thread is except for me of course. the difficulty lies in creating meaningful phrases and not just playing scalar patterns over and over and calling it a solo like most metalheads dude and drool over

>>70796375
most people are purely into bands like Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth and all that, think they are the most metal they can be and walk around trying to look the part.

That shit pisses people off, not only normies but also people that listen to that sort of thing as well, just prefer to have a more defined taste and don't really force the music to change the way they look, act or speak.

A lot of people seem to think metal is something you grow out of, but its mostly fags that listen to the generic bullshit everyone knows about so no wonder they grow out of it. If you explore the genre you'll find plenty of bands to like, to occupy you for a long time, its just a music you have to commit to, its not often you find something at least half decent to listen to.

This and the world just seems to shift in weird directions, one day the whole world loves Metallica, then comes Nirvana and then everyone just forgets about these bands to make way for whatever new shit is on top.

>>70796375
because it's a literal hipster circlejerk with zero self awareness that pretends to be something it is not. If you say you love music but only listen to metal, you don't love music, you love metal. Other genre fans are much more self aware. Metalheads listen to metal with the mindset that they are into music, while the truth is they are only into metal. This leads to a really stupid genre culture that feels entitled to judge literally any other music out there by the standards of one genre. I've had some of my incredibly normie flatmates (normie in the sense that they only listen to club music) walk in on me listening to the weirdest shit and not even commenting on it. I've also had my metalhead older brother walk in on me listening to To be kind and immediately reacting to it, he called it psychedelic stoner crap. His gf went all spastic once after she was exposed to the first five seconds of King Kunta. I've been heavily into metal myself before and still have connections to it and the whole genre culture fucking reeks of inferiority complex.

>>70801526
>jazz scale

o dear lol

>>70801526
the jazz scale
what are the scale degrees of the "jazz" scale
I was unaware there was such a thing as a "jazz" scale, I'm sure I would have learned about that scale in my jazz theory class

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>>70801515

Did they all look like this?

Did they conduct themselves scandalously in the presence of their peers and superiors?

Did they blaspheme the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?

>>70801526
It wouldn't surprise me if he were on heroin.

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the only thing cringier than metal is metal fans

>>70801553
they looked like this>>70801334
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>>70801551
>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI

>>70801537
>that being said most of bebop is ii V is anyway
Most of jazz is ii V I, but depending on the era aand genre they're broken up in seemingly impossible ways with substitutions that can make the base progression sound unrecognizable, just for the sake of it.
Classical harmony is also at it's core simple because there's really only so much you can do when it comes to progression, the fun comes when you want to keep the basic progression but break it up and change it while still retaining its base function.

>>70801574
Jesus Christ anon.
Stop posting anytime.

>>70801574
>jazz scale
>i'm the ignorant one
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The name of the video is jazz scales, there is no such thing as a fucking jazz scale you illiterate fuck

>>70801566

Like *THAT*? Sweet mother of Jesus. That's not right, is it?

>>70801577
I'm well aware, tritone subs, 7 common end of chorus turn arounds, secondary and borrowed doms, I know how it goes, I also did a lot of counter point as a college freshman, I'm just taling mad shit cause motherfuckers around here are stupid

>jazz scale

lmao

>>70801594
When the fuck did I say there was some specific jazz-scale you dumbass? My point is Tosin includes a collection of jazz scales within his playing. Then you said some shit about "bepop scales" like that's the only jazz scale in existence.

>>70801597
That dude hasn't been right once in this whole thread. He's fun to fuck with though. I'd suggest switching to that.

>>70801620
This is literally what you fucking said you stupid fuck.

>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?
Found here>>70801526

Stop fucking posting you fucking idiot

>>70801641
Holy shit you're fucking retarded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_scale

>>70801639
Yes come fuck with me, maybe you can tell me what the "jazz scale" is

>>70801639

I'd never fuck with him.

>>70801648
>he literally googled "jazz scale" to see if there was a link he could use to damage control

>>70801654
I invented at least 3 jazz scales, anon.

>>70801648
>he uses wikipedia
>he thinks there's such a thing as a JAZZ SCALE

>>70801667
>Being too retarded to know that jazz-scale is short for a collection of scales in general

Never stop being you, anon.

>>70801654

doot do doot do deet dee doot BWEEAP BWEEAP BLOOT doot dee doo dat ladies and gentlemen

doot dee doot dee doot

>>70801680
There are 4 jazz scales, and as I said I invented 3 of them.

>>70801684
No no, that is not what the fuck you said you stupid fuck. need I remind you?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?

>>70801698

I can confirm, that's what he said. I've seen it with my own two eyes. He said it.

>>70801688
I've always been fond of bloot myself.

>>70801698
Yes I get it, you're a major retard and you think I actually meant a legit jazz-scale and you didn't know that jazz-scale = jazz scales in general.

But you study music tho?

>>70801684
*A* jazz scale, anon, not *the* jazz scale.

>>70801694
what scale degrees give a "jazz scale" its quality? are they based off modes? if so what modes? if not what scales are they based on?

>he's going wikipedia the fuck out of this and still get it wrong

>>70801718

>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?

>the jazz scale

THE JAZZ SCALE
>B-B-B-BUT I MEANT A COLLECTION OF SCALES HURRRR DURRRRR I CAN'T INTO ENGLISH

>>70801723
Not only that, but you're also too stupid to tell that you're replying to two different people.

>>70801723
About 35 degrees celsius and they're based on mode 7 (that chip in snes cartridges that allows 3d graphics). In fact I also used it to create star fox.

>>70801757
HURRR DURRR UR SO DUMB AS TO NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE ANONYMOUS POSTER FROM THE OTHER HURRR DURRRR DA JAZZZ SCALE GUISE LOOK AT TYHIS YOUTUBE VIDEO I PULLED UP SEEEE JAZZ SCALE!@@!!@

>>70801723
>He's going to Wikipedia the fuck out of this

projecting much? You didn't even know what a fucking jazz scale was before he linked it lol.

>>70801773
JAZZ SCALE DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST YOU STUPID FUCK HOLY SHIT

This is why /metal/ exists.

>>70801770
>Being too autistic to decipher between two different posting styles

That's a legitimate symptom of autism, actually.

>>70801769

That's not what jazz is at all. Feel free to go back to wikipedia and pull up more bullshit though, I'll be right here.

>>70801786
UM EXCUSE ME I SAID I INVENTED AT LEAST 3 JAZZ SCALES SO YOU'RE ALREADY WRONG.

>>70801789
>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?
>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?
>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?
>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?
>So the Jazz-Scale =/= jazz? What are you on?

>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI [Embed]>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI [Embed]>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI [Embed]>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI [Embed]>Being this ignorant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0N5AiI83hI [Embed]

JAZZ SCALE GUYS

>>70801786
Oh shit man, jazz scale doesn't exist? I guess we can tell the Berklee college of music and other theorists to go fuck themselves. This idiot on /mu/ has it all figured out.

>>70801801
That's what you think. Jazz and the Super Nintendo have more in common than you think. Did you know they can both be powered by a 9 volt wall adapter?

>>70801808
YEAH TELL THEM THAT THE BEBOP SCALE, MELODIC/HARMONIC MINOR, LYDIANDOMINANT, AND LITERALLY EVERY OTHER FUCKING SCALE IMPROVISERS USE CALLED AND SAID THE JAZZ SCALE DOES NOT FUCKING EXIST YOU DUMB FUCK
YOU ARE A SPECIAL KIND OF RETARD

>>70801819

Super Nintendo = Game console
Jazz = Musical scale

They have nothing in common so stop posting retard.

>>70801832
Oh wow, several posts later and this fucking retard still doesn't get the fact that jazz scale refers to a collection of scales used in jazz? Keep going, please.

>>70801832

Now I'm imagining this spastic scream "LYDIANDOMINANT!".

>>70801833
Not true. Jazz legend Charlie Parker composed the soundtrack to super mario kart on midi in 1963.

>>70801850
CAPITAL LETTERS MUST MEAN SCREAMING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>70801846
HE'S STILL TRYING THIS HARD TO BE RIGHT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>70801860

I see, so you're "Trolling", right?