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/mu/, can we have a discussion on punk, like what makes truly good punk and some examples of it? I want to listen to good punk.
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>>70733841

Easily the most unique punk record of the 80s & Glenn Danzig's crowning achievement. Thank me later, op.
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>>70733841
Classic Oregon-core
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>>70733888
pic related is better
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>>70733916

LOL
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This is the most underrated punk album of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp6ttWM7Jg
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>>70733888
>>70733916
>listening to horror music
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>>70733948

>being a contrarian faggot
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>>70733888
good selection, and the trips agree

>>70733916
also a good album, but too underdeveloped
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>examples of great punk
The alt-right.
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dancy punk recs?
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>>70734141
>ska

kys
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>>70734127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJsow2wTbaw
One of my favorite albums in highschool. The bit at around 1 minute in is so good.
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>>70734127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDo71cp1PU
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>>70734218
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>>70734001
>>70733971
>>70733948
>>70733935
>>70733921
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>>70733841
I am offended by this thread, it isn't promoting an optimal safe space that punk should in 2017
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jeff...

rosenstock
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>>70734248
legendary
>>70734218
pity their follow-up wasn't that good
>>70733935
fantastic band, their EP is ace as well

pic related: super underrated scottish group
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>>70734153
ska is absolute fucking dogshit but that album is great. wouldnt expect some fag that posts a drake meme to have taste though.
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>>70734301
>pity their follow-up wasn't that good
Yeah, but there's plenty of other sexy San Diego punk to make up for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFRaeXie12Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qylxZwTphIQ
I just wish Drive Like Jehu was this surfy. Punk rock is so rooted in surf rock, so why is good surf punk so hard to find?
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>>70733841
Is this good punk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGe9EfLh-ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkIwO_X4i4
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>>70734374
that's one of the reasons i love later Dead Kennedys so much

that surf rock sound is so fucking good
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>>70734402
"no"
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>>70734410
here's the thing - "yes"
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>>70733841
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
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>>70734402
East Bay Ray's a pretty great guitarist, even if I never got that much into the DKs. I know Jello Biafra was a big fan of Takeshi Terauchi, who's by far my favorite surf guitarist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSJ0HVwpzc

Posting more surf punk because why not, the thread's on its last legs anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vneIVy2BIIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6siGKxcKol0 (there's a cool bit right after the chorus where they switch to 5/4 time, which I always thought was neat).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_lTUUKzGNw

>>70734469
Have you listened to Nation of Ulysses?
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>>70733841

Björk's pre-Sugarcubes band, KUKL produced 2 amazing CDs.
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>>70734248
favorite band material t b h
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>>70734503
>japanese album
>yooooooooooooooo
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>>70734598
It's great, isn't it?
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We can all agree that this is bad, right?
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>>70734698
Yes. Leave it to the British to ruin all the good things Americans make
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>>70734698
Nah, only contrarians would say that
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>>70734698
definitely
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>>70734612
its pretty alright so far


some more surf shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZgcSdtBs3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4K9JBRWHyI


>>70734698
nah. much better than ramones imo.
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>>70734712
>americans made punk
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>>70734723
>the queers

lmaoing at your taste friend
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>Surf punk
>Nobody has posted Nightbirds yet
Wtf?

https://night-birds.bandcamp.com/album/born-to-die-in-suburbia
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>>70734723
It pissed me off that everyone attacked Joe Queer for supporting the Darren Wilson fund. Regardless of whether or not I agree with it, punk rock's call out culture really gets in the way of music. I feel like a lot of very political punk scenes (the SF bay area scene, for example) are pretty mediocre because they place more emphasis on the lyrics and ideology rather than the music. If other political punk scenes were as good as Washington DC with bands like Fugazi, I wouldn't mind the politics one bit.
Apologies for not keeping /pol/ in /pol/.
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>>70734772
RUDE D:<
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I want to get mote into /punk/. Give me some recs pls.
My favourite punk bands are:
Grazhdanskaya oborona
Fugazi
Buzzcocks
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>>70734921
Punk nowadays seems like it has that whole mentality of 'if you don't believe what I believe then you're a piece of shit' and it's really annoying. It's like people are making the music more for telling a certain group of people want they want to hear than for the music.
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>>70734930
If you're into Buzzcocks look into The Adverts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_7sNu1D9Us
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post punk with bad vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STI6C3pVWHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5JO9iTPDyg
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Punk is about knowing more than your less worthy friends about punk, and it is in no way a fucking joke because of it's disgusting fan base.
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>>70734921
>>70735009
You guys are totally right PC culture and punk have merged to create a new wave of hyper sensitive punk. Scenes everywhere have rules and dogmas closer to tribes and individualism is encouraged but at the same time ignored or berated. It's a hard subgenre to play music in but I think the most important thing is it is fun and the people are still super rad despite all the flaws of the group. Punk has become a progressive culture closer to social change more than the hippy movement ever was. This shift in punk is mainly caused by women becoming centred upon in the scene rather than white dudes.
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>>70735009
DIY scene overall is ass cancer now. Hardlined left-wing echo chamber spillover from academia that's about to finally disappear all the way up its own rectum. You're blackballed everywhere if you have any non-safe-space-approved words or ideas, and the art is just getting worse and exponentially less dangerous.
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>>70735227

This. Every one is a a dirty look away from acting like a fucking rape victim. It's gotten old.
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>>70735237
Yeah, I can't even listen to fucking EMO without all that safe space bs. Emo is about being sad and shit not being a holier than thou asshole to people.
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To continue it is about respecting others not so much about believe what I do or fuck you. I once had it so eloquently said that "if you ain't here to slam or listen to music get fucked". We all desire respect and validation and I think that punk has created a space more fitting of that
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>>70735227
>It's a hard subgenre to play music in

Punk has one of the lowest barriers of entry in music period. what are you saying
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>>70735264
If you wanna act like a meathead just play metal and have a sausage fest.
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>>70735350

You trivialize cause it's easier for you.
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>>70735290
>"if you ain't here to slam or listen to music get fucked"
Honestly most of the bands aren't even there for the music so they can get fucked with their virtue signaling bullshit.
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>>70735311
I mean it's a hard subgenre to play in because of its underground nature.
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>>70735364
How is it so hard to just respect people?
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>>70735404
Most bands are there for being cool guys and free beer imo
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>>70734023
I want to start an alt right punk band and actually do what punk is supposed to do, piss people off. It's sad that the counter culture now is being conservative. Fuck these faggots wanting open borders and spreading globalism, these "punk" bands align with the American mainstream news media and hollywood elite, which is essentially just an extension of the news media anyway with actors are used. Punks now are just useful idiots spreading the lefts propaganda.
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>>70735421

It's not. You`ve molested what he said with your narrative.
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>>70735421
They disrespect people for others disrespecting people. It's a never ending cycle of bullshit that will never stop. Assholes will always exist. Stop stooping down to their level.

>>70735468
You go girl. We need some edgy punk these days.
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>>70735468
I think punk was made because people were sick of what was happening not because they wanted to be something. Yeah I agree that the far left seems dogmatic but honestly we just want to hop trains borders and suck dick in peace. Maybe shit in a Nazis mouth
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>>70735524
It's not a never-ending cycle it ends when you stop being an asshole and just treating people the way they would like to be treated
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>>70735550
>being against nazis
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>>70735468
>actually do what punk is supposed to do

punk has been leftist since its inception

seriously, read an article of maximum rock n roll from the 80s
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>>70735468
you don't seem to understand what conservatism means
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>>70735582
First off Im not the asshole. Second people will NEVER stop being assholes so stop acting like itll happen. Either ignore it (which will also never happen) or the cycle continues.

>>70735604
being conservative is counter culture though. honestly punk just needs to stop with the whiny bullshit. its fucking pathetic and weak. leftover crack is political punk done right.
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>>70735649
quit whining
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>>70735649
>Leftover crack
>Conservative

TOP KEK
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>>70735649
you're either dumb as fuck or baiting and i honestly don't know which is worse
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>>70735649
Bro lemme come at u and suck your dick we can bang rocks all nite and tattoo pepe on our ballsacks and Jack off to Richard Spencer getting punched in the faaaaaece
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>>70735600
It's been leftist since it's inception because the mainstream ideology at the time was very conservative and it was a middle finger to that line of thinking. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the past few years with political correctness going rampant, save the fucking world ethos and inclusiveness (only for like minded individuals) that going against this ideology would be more punk than agreeing with CNN while wearing a tshirt that says "vegan" on it.
>>70735649
I agree that being conservative is the new counter culture. If you want to piss off some special snowflakes which is essentially this whole generation, just say you fuck your high school sweet heart that you later married, every night in missionary position then pray before you go to bed.
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punk threads on mu are terrible none of you people actually listen to punk or go to shows and there's always some faggot(s) going on about "le alt right is the real punk" meme, whether it's ironically or completely honest

>>70734469
garbage-ass nu metal
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>>70735697
Good luck getting even close to missionary
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>>70735669
i never said they were. theyre political but they dont whine like most bands.

>>70735687
get some reading comprehension fag

>>70735706
yeah dude fuck drumpf im gonna slit my wrists because of him tonight
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>>70734740
Hey anon they did
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>>70735706
Thank you hipster punk Jesus.
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>>70735723
nice comeback bro you sure showed them dirty sjws
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>>70734740
as a style they did make it. Mclaren brought it to UK, because he saw the poverty fitting with the style of music.
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>>70735723
Anyone who says fag as an insult should probably get buttraped in prison
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>>70735761
is nigger cock punk rock?
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>>70735468

Not alt-right (& not really punk, I guess) but I'm in a weird band & write stuff that's skeptical of any prominent cultural values, including the new left (identity politics, victim narratives, globalism, etc.) But the whole "weird scene", (my bandmates included), is aligned hard with that shit, so it's a dangerous tightrope walk to avoid being no-platformed by 'literally shaking' hardcore-libs.

I'm pretty surprised people on the alt-right haven't started any political punk bands yet, though, yeah. It would definitely be fresh air, whether you agree with the politics or not.
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>>70735697
it's been leftist since its inception because the bands who started it were leftists and they wrote music about the politics they believed in

do you think they sat down and decided that they wanted to be rebellious and then decided to match their political views to oppose whatever was popular

how stupid are you
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>>70735761
and this is the type of shit that turns people off from the scene and why trump got elected. 8 years, hope youre happy.
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>>70735780
Yea if u got a BBC Ima Suk u so hard
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>>70735790
>I'm pretty surprised people on the alt-right haven't started any political punk bands yet, though, yeah. It would definitely be fresh air, whether you agree with the politics or not.
Probably because people on the alt-right side of things dont like punk.
t. /pol/ & thedonald lurker

>>70735791
serious question: is being anarchist left or apolitical?
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>>70735741
go to a show retard

this thread is shit. Conservative valies are not and by nature canne er be counter-culture, and especially when the president is too conservative for most of the GOP you are not "special" for being conservative. fuck you autists.


>it's whiny bullshit!

you're mad that people are supporting causes that don't place you at the center of the world and care about problems that do not directly hinder you
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>>70735814
WAH WAH WHY CANT TRANNIES POOP IN THE SAME ROOM AS ME WAH WAH
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>>70735810
anarchism is a left-wing ideology, unless you're an ancap in which case you're a failed cause
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>>70735814
>canne r

*cannot
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>>70735795
Ima stick it down your butthole real soon BOI Betta watch wat u say I'm waiting for ya
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>>70735814
supporting causes that directly align with the mainstream narrative is not punk rock and i don't give a shit what you argue.
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>>70735468
lol you're a fucking joke
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For anyone just joining the discussion TL dr

> GLOSS is greeeeeeaaaaaattttt
Nah f you sissy snowflake
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>>70735863
why don't you add a counter argument then? are you too busy wearing a pussy beanie? fighting for income equality that doesn't exist?
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>>70735831
>i have nothing to say so ill act like a retard and pretend he's crying lol GOT EM

im sure the next phase of your little autistic tantrum will be to tell me how triggered i am
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>>70735875
nigga everybody wears beanies these days.

>>70735838
>mfw call people fags but would mind a dick in the butt
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>>70735855
what the fuck is the mainstream narrative that you keep whining about

also do you realize the "alt right" is a handful of 20-something guys circlejerking on the internet over a billionaire reality tv star who just became the president of the united states? it literally can't get any more pro-establishment than this
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>>70735875
Nah man I dun have to fight you to know I'm winning. Just come to a "safe space" and talk shit and we'll put you in yer place
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>>70735855
there's no left-wing mainstream narrative besides milquetoast liberalism (i.e., not left-wing). no punk band is backing that, unless all of a sudden anti-flag and green day are your golden standard of punk politics

come to think of it that would actually explain a lot desu
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>>70735855
so supporting conservative values is not punk rock by your own definition

ps punk is not "about" anything, and is certainly not about contrarianism for the sake of it; it is and always has been largely left-wing, not because this was "counter culture", but because the people making it believe strongly in those views. The end goal of such artist is and always has been to bring such idealogies to the mainstream, because trying to keep things you support from gaining influence is fucking retarded, and supporting things just because they go against the current zeitgeist and for no other reason is also fucking retarded. You are a fucking retard.
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>>70735875
how can you accuse someone of not having a counter-argument when this was a literal response to criticism of your stupid-ass ideology

>WAH WAH WHY CANT TRANNIES POOP IN THE SAME ROOM AS ME WAH WAH
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>>70735875
'pussy beanie'

I hope you know that the left think that shit is terrible because it's bioessentialist liberal garbage pseudo-feminism but ok
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>>70735954
how much are you guys getting paid for this
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>>70735954
lmao calm down with the buzzwords niqqa
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>>70735963
You can't just call words you don't like/don't understand 'buzzwords'
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>>70735954
the reason the left has lost so many of its old demographic is because the line of THAT and the working class democrat has been blurred and the average democratic person wanted no part of that madness.
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>>70735962
penny rimbaud is letting me live at dial house in exchange
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Sup playbois and playettes
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>>70735962
i'll ask again

>what the fuck is the mainstream narrative that you keep whining about
>also do you realize the "alt right" is a handful of 20-something guys circlejerking on the internet over a billionaire reality tv star who just became the president of the united states? it literally can't get any more pro-establishment than this
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Post more good punk!
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>>70735984
the alt right is a bunch of people who hate everything but trump because he is also an asshole. also im not the guy you keep replying to.

>>70735978
sup
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>>70735962
are you ever actually going to respond to anything or just keep proving me right in calling you a mouthbreathing fucking retard
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but srsly come thru y'all are some hype ass antifa mafuckas
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>>70735995
a bunch of assholes*
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>>70735978
dat guitar tone holy shit
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heres some fun dutch thrash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyU3DLrIgeo
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Y'all need to chill out and listen to this classic banger.
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>>70735995
i honestly respect more local nazis than this /pol/ leak because they at least have the nerve to go out and fight people
go back to your containment board you pieces of shit
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anybody know any other punk with really fuzzy guitar like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyry0DJnklA
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Most edge?
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best black flag album?
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>>70736057
that's not very inclusive of you
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>>70736057
I don't go on /pol/ and was just answering your question but ok. Both sides of you guys need to stop getting upset about every little thing
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>>70736078
my war
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Honestly it was like a guy who just liked this album came in
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>>70736087
although i was replying to you i wasnt talking about you
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>>70736090
why? love its b side
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>>70736078
the new one coming out with mike v
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>>70736127
oh shit my bad
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>>70736137
black flag aint the same without henry rollins on the vocals, what a man
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This topic's a good example of why the scene's been messing up. It's people with extreme beliefs at every corner, PC culture, anti-PC, elitists, people trying to start a fight, etc. Everybody just forcing their ideologies upon each other, causing a tear in terms of the unity of DIY scenes. I would like to say that none of this shit matters, because it shouldn't, but it has only been progressively affecting stuff more and more. And I am not even trying to take a moral high ground among the rest of these people, I just wanna be able to enjoy a show without drama and/or fighting involved. Just let anyone be at a show unless they try to actively harm someone else.
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>>70736135
yea thats a big part of it for sure. im a big flipper fan and the second half reminds me of a lot of the stuff flipper did. i also think the songwriting in general is better (despite being simpler and less complex, to an extent)
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>>70736117
i legitimately don't see how anyone who isn't a nazi can enjoy skrewdriver

it's just so fucking bland
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>>70736168
this is a prime example of why rollins is their best singer. keith morris and ron reyes sound too teenage and angsty for me, rollins' voice gives the dramatic depth their lyrics and sound crave and this b side has really heavy, desperate tracks that wouldn't sound right with any of their other vocalists
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>>70736196
very well put

rollins can make things that would sound pretentious and awkward with other vocalists sound captivating and intimidating
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>>70735227
>This shift in punk is mainly caused by women becoming centred upon in the scene rather than white dudes

Women were always pretty important to punk since the beginning in the 70s.
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>>70736160
TRU

But alot of what I see at shows is just women wanting and desiring to be included because they love this music too. And again and again its shitty attitudes of people who think its cool to molest people in the pit "cuz its punk rock lol dont get so offended wow" It's just people really desiring to be included. Honestly just don't be a shitty bro. That is the #1 complaint in all punk scenes. It's not hard. Really.
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>>70736180
I only like Hitlers early paintings too.
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>>70736266
nah, it's not that. i listen to death in june and nsbm. skrewdriver and other rac just bores the shit out of me
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>>70736266
nice b8

>>70736276
cut throat is the only good rac band
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>>70736276
I only translated it after I got the records i Swear
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>>70735706
This pls stop making punk threads you always either discuss muh drumpf punk or try to be the most hip by shitting on classic punk and spamming le quirky different elitist punk it's sad really
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>>70736358
I am hipper than thou now you must pay my scene tax. mmmm buy my demo
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>>70736358
Sex Pistols are dadrock are you triggered?
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>tfw punk hasn't gotten any better from the first proto-punk album
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>>70736358
We just make punk threads so we can talk about raping nazis in there mm mm tight butholes
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anyone wanna talk about punk in the punk thread

just threw together a quick top 10 collage (sticking to more closely related subgenres)
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>female punk "vocals"
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>>70736544
priests..?
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>Trump is so punk/anti-establishment

>Who is Rex Tillerson
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>>70734469
it's a punk thread, not a shit music thread
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>>70735468
Nigger you even know what punk is, kill yourself
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reading through this thread and re-affirming the fact that both of these sides are pure faggotry

but the one that got offended that I used that word even outside of an anti-homosexual context are infinitely more autistic
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>>70735706
nah man, nu metal is the true punk
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>>70735468
I'm a part of what some people call the "alt-right" and it feels punk as fuck. It feels like an actual counter culture, or rebellion against the PC culture that dominates American colleges.
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>>70733841
Is it just me or is this the best punk album of the new millennium?
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>>70735468
Nazi fags need to die.
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>>70738700
you don't think these regressive far-left retards feel the exact same way? "I'm gonna punch a 'Nazi' because I'm LARPing being oppressed!" Both sides feel as though they're tough rogue citizens. The left started it, but the "counter-culture" to that just imitates its whiny-ness.

>from my perspective
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>>70735468
Sucking off a 70 year old manchild who got everything handed to him by his daddy isn't punk you fucking faggot.
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>>70735468
You're a useful tool for the establishment to spread propaganda. It's literally the establishment vs the establishment, the alt right are just edgier.
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>>70738682
Nigga if you call me a faggot I will pull down your pants and forcibly gang rape you with myself and six other punk rock faggots. Come at me. Try speaking this way in a "safe space" I dare you.
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Good punk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZWLlU0d5eM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUcHKBM7Hrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CY3DzIty-U
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>>70738749
Just because in your experience life is fine doesn't mean others feel the same
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green day is by far the best punk band.
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>>70740347
faggot
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the best punk has that undercurrent of "we don't give a fuck" noisiness along with the simplicity of two note guitar riffs.

a typical tab looking as so (pic related)

Not until the rock rhythms can be deconstructed into basic patterned repetitions can punk music be called as so.
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>>70740409
here's reality
>no one in the United States is oppressed by the government
>not because of their skin color
>not because of their gender
>not because of their sexuality
>you are fucking free
now we can pick apart the common injustices certain people face, especially pertaining to their class, but get the fuck out if you want victim status. Every single shitty person has experienced hardship. Don't act like you are special because of your identity.
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>>70733888

FIRST POST
BEST POST
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>>70741260
why would we pick apart anything anon. It's almost lunch time
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>>70740347
autistic faggot
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>>70741281
Good point.

Grilled cheese sounds nice.
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This is punk towards punk.
Discussion go
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>>70733888
Thank you, I haven't listened to this one yet. Not op.
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diy punk was always very leftwing outside of some outliers
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>>70742461
wrong
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just because Trump upsets the girl who sits in front of you with blue hair who would rather be called 'They' instead of 'She' doesn't mean Trump is punk. Shock value that caters to upsetting the most easily offend-able person is boring and unimaginative.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNr0SUjJy-U

punk is alive
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classic /pol/ ruins a thread thread
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Who boston Strangler here?
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>>70742508
it's a bit more nuanced than that, lol.
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>>70741260
lol @ you
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>>70742665
being conservative is not and never will be inherently punk, punk is not "about" anything, is not about shock value for shock value's sake, is not about aimless contrarianism. The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of punk musicians hold amd have always held radically left-wing views, not because these things "rebelled against the norm", but because they believe them to be morally right.

kys for this "im the REAL rebel!" bullshit, you sound like a fucking moron.
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>>70734307
go fuck yourself cunt get the saying right
its "[95% of] ska is absolute fucking dogshit"

the last 5% goes like this...
4% is okay and listenable
1% is a gift from god himself
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oh no a "ska" album lets scream like little bitches and say "LOLOLLLLL SKA IZ BAD REEEEL BIG FISH HIPSTER 90s SHIT IT WAS A FAD xDDDD"

yo dawg if you don't let the stereotypical ska vision blind you this album has some very cool and interesting parts. not to mention the lyrics are very old world and intriguing
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>>70743197
>you
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>>70733935
Thank you for that post man. This album is epic .
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>>70743290
this, desu. Punk is radically left wing. always has been, always will be.
NAZI PUNKS, FUCK OFF!
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>>70742543
wow
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>>70736544
downtown boys are good though
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>>70744396
pls dont tell pol about good bands
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Ay to I'm in here
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>>70744396
"no"
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>>70736495
good pick

other pretty known bands i like
Wasted Youth
Descendents
Circle Jerks
Adolescents
Germs
Bad Brains
Minor Threat
The Slits
Zounds
The Raincoats
Agent Orange
Swell Maps
(bit more post-punk)
My Dad is Dead
The Damned
(early) Wire
Mission of Burma
Polvo
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Nowadays I don't really listen to punk anymore. I've moved to ppost-punk, new wave and other offshoots. Weird feel.
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>>70734740
>so messed up, anon's a queer
what did he mean by this?
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