/prod/ - Music Production General

my WIP:
https://clyp.it/qm1vytzo

Do I need to know music theory to /prod/?

>>70668817
not really, but it definitely helps to know at least the basics, like scales, chords, timing and other shit

>>70668817
doesnt hurt to learn but if you are a total noob most daws have plenty of tools to keep you in scale.

Does anyone else post their WIPs here, slightly hoping that some big name like Trent Reznor or Deadmau5 is lurking and listening to clyps, and that maybe they can hear the potential genius producer in you and invite you to be a producer or contributor on their team?

>>70668780
>I don't have the OP pasta edition
apparently all the links are dead anyways

>>70669086
no, but i'm glad you still have dreams

>>70669086
skrillex here dont let youre memes be dreams kiddo ;^)

https://clyp.it/qowft0jh

just started putting this together
it's pretty quiet, but the kick might be a little loud tho

required reading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhefwMxSQfM

>>70668807
not bad, son. a lot of your tracks need highpassing though, like your hats and maybe your other synthy sounds.

>>70669188
this sort of reminds me of some clams casino type stuff, I enjoy. a fatter thicker slightly longer kick would work better I think.

well this is retarded

I'm having a weird problem in unAbleton. When I work with my gear (I sequence a synth from ableton), when I go to render the audio, it comes out silent. Empty. I have already made sure everythig is correct (master, not highlighting any clips, etc) and it still comes fucking empty

I tried saving a different project that had an audio clip with no MIDI channels, and it saved fine

What the fuck is going on?

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>>70669188
really enjoy this one, maybe try layering a few more snaps over the current one and panning them around if you want it sounding more stereo

started working on a cover/remix of a weeb song i like, feedback?

https://clyp.it/a5ltnz4w

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anyone else use Logic pro X?

My issue is I'm trying to join some tracks together so I can export them to a producer. The problem is, some of my audio tracks dont start at the beginning of the song. they start somewhere is the middle.

I'd prefer to have all of my tracks start from the beginning of the song so the producer can just drop all the tracks right into his DAW and the song is already pieced together just like that.

But in logic, you can't just extend an audio track. Is there any trick around this?

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>>70669868
You mean like bouncing stems? When you hit bounce just set the render start value to measure 1, beat 1, etc. like pic related. It'll render all the empty space as silence, if you have the track soloed

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>>70668780
Eh. I dropped an EP that noone gives a shit about. Go ahead and dump on it.
https://soundcloud.com/dj-demyan/sets/overclocked-ep-free-download

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how do i make music like Chvrches minus the hot singer?

>>70670441
fart into a microphone

I want to start making music with bass, synth and percussion, all simulated/digital of course.
Where do I start with this? Is there free software which would allow me to essentially place notes on a track for each 'layer'? Or is the only software that's used like $900+?

>>70670569
with a vintage warmer Vst?

Any good FL tutorials?

I realize that there are a ton out there, I just want to know if there are any that you guys especially recommend.

>>70670570
So you mean you're looking for a DAW? I'm not sure what exactly you're asking.

>>70670570
I mean you could pirate FL Studio like a lot of us...

>>70670441
It's just synthpop

Sooo, just write upbeat pop music and use overly 'synthy' sounds.

>>70670780
or avoid mining bitcoins for ivan and download reaper

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>>70668817

not really but it makes it a lot easier

diatonic chord theory is useful, knowing which chords sound good together, etc
>https://dropfile.to/76tTCRr

>>70670570

You need a DAW and some VSTs. Go download/buy Reaper. There's a bunch of tutorials on their site, should take no more than a week to learn the basics. Come back here to ask stupid question. Rinse and repeat.

>>70669666

Nice little bass line Satan, really grooves.

>>70669188

Good foundation, ethereal and dreamy sounding. That's what you were going for?

>>70671591
NOBODY CLICK THIS LINK

REPEAT

NOBODY CLICK THIS LINK

>>70671591
don't click that link it's OP's and it got exposed as a lockout virus

>>70671818
>>70671857
Too late

>>70671886
my antivirus was triggered so it saved me

>>70671918
THIS time... next time, maybe it won't!

https://clyp.it/eeebpawn

an acoustic track I've been working on that includes some elements of electronic music. I guess kind of like James Blake?

How do I into music production, /mu/? Even if it's complete garbage I still kind of just want to make some type of music

can i into dubstep
https://clyp.it/330rwnuh

>>70672027
Holy shit
That's actually really good
Turn the goddamn bass down though you fucking moron

>>70672027
>https://clyp.it/330rwnuh
no

>>70672027
um
apparently?

>>70672015
download one of the major DAWs, this way you can easily find resources and help online, and if you don't have any musical training, start to learn the basics, then you get into the actual production of the music, which is mostly reading up and playing with the technical parts of your DAW, this is best way to get into it, I feel, but you can learn what you want in any order I guess.

>>70672027
what the fuck is this

>>70672027
Why would you waste time making dubstep?

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>>70671818
>>70671857
>>70671886
>>70671918
>>70671957

Are we really do this again? It's safe.

>>70672174
look i'm not your bitcoin slave fuck off. stop taking advantage of people trying to learn an art

>>70672174
Every time. Every thread. I'll be here bitch nigga, keeping people safe from your shit.

>>70672269
great now nobody will learn diatonic chord theory and /prod/ music will suffer as a result. also FML i just cracked my ipad screen

https://clyp.it/qrw2ghuz

with longer kick and wider claps

https://clyp.it/oush5awb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFkiUeLZzZY

Any more videos like this where people go into detail over how they connect their hardware to computer? It's kind of confusing to think of the best way to do it.

>>70673183
sounds pretty good. are you having trouble making it longer or that's just how you wanted it to be?

tfw still cant find cthulhu.dll torrent

>>70673183
When the rest of the percussion goes away the kick and snare sound a bit dry, maybe some extra release on them?

https://clyp.it/4fgxglwp
Where do I go from here guys?

>>70671969
That kick makes me want to kill my self. It's good song, but I'd replace the drums sounds my man

>>70672027
I want to hurt myself
Don't take that as a compliment

What does one need to read/watch/do to make music like that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diMmEo3AtlQ

>>70674826
What?

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>>70669086
>Deadmau5

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is this a good sound
https://clyp.it/jrqdbkyk

starting at 3 minutes to the end of the song how are they doing that? are they just lining up chopped samples? seems like theres more to it since there's a nice rhythm and it sounds good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-NQZYCZnA

>>70674910
no samples it's just unquantized live playing and then micro edited it in the piano roll view

https://clyp.it/wgrozf01

give nme the bad news

>>70675041

wait what? not understanding

>>70674712
>get a laptop
>download audacity
>record various instruments with the laptop mic
>use your mouth/table for drums
>use a shitload of layers of everything to represent the many layers of irony you're on
>randomly cut away parts of the song
>add reverb
>downsample everything to the lowest quality
you are now a bona fide lo-fi grandwizard, master of nostalgia and faux-sincerity

https://clyp.it/x51cojpe

>Jazz
>A lot of drums

tried to make this fusion something, does it work?

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anybody used one of these? wondering if i should get this or save up for the r16

>>70675940
totally awful
not a single advantage over daw+interface with these relics from the 90ies

Why does MPC make my mixes sound different than when I listen to it in clyp?

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>tfw realized I make shitty electronic music because I have no real feelings or experiences worth expressing in real songwriting

>>70676109
different in what way?
maybe record the output of both back to your daw and directly compare them

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tinnitus loud as fuck today

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>>70676234
drink some nice hot tea and listen to a good album just a tad louder
you got this, m8

>>70670441
learn how to produce in general, then you'll know how to do pretty much anything

>>70670570
you need a DAW, you can do anything in a DAW, after that you're gonna need synths and plugins to make your dreams become real. go on equipboard and look at what your favorite pro's are using, tons of resources there

>>70670745
the Image-Line manuals and guides on their website are amazing actually

>>70671969
what's up with the kick? replace the percussion with some actual drums, mix could use a lot of work, the track is way too quiet. it sounds like a great idea but produced in a very amateur-manner.
also, it's way too long with little variation throughout. quite a few cool ideas, drum programming at the end is pretty cool too

>>70672015
get a DAW, get instruments and plugins, experiment around, you need to spend a lot of time on it experimenting around, go through tutorials and read through the synth manuals, also equipboard is a great place to get resources

>>70672027
sounds very amateur, kinda like you got a few presets and threw them over a 140bpm drum loop, you need to learn the art of foley and how to make a drop sound fuller, that's the most important part, also variation and details is key.

>>70672773
boiiiii, this is great, I think the drums could be a bit louder in the mix, but your atmo and all the foley and shit going on is amazing, good work my man. this is so relaxing, perfect for something like minecraft.

>>70673183
ayyyyy this is pretty fuckin good desu, fuckin love it now when the chords entered. reminds me of Vinter in Vegas

>>70673527
rutracker?

>>70674890
it's way too short but it has potential, mix needs work tho ofc

>>70675143
this is bad, that pad is way too loud and it's tearing my eardrums apart, the kick is lost in the loudness of the pad. you just started producing right?

>>70675798
I think the intro is way too long, drums are very nice, this is way too hectic tho, mix is extremely muddy, you need to structure it and fix your volume levels, some of your effects are way too louder than your instruments. drums are mad nice tho.

>>70676197
In MPC there are sudden jumps and falls in volume while in clyp it stays somewhat constant.

I don't have the luxury of constantly uploading my track due to limited data.

I havent /prod/ in months, started an acid electro track last night/thi morning

https://clyp.it/lesucelx

>>70668817
Only the basics.
I only started producing after learning guitar.

Just downloaded Reaper and this shit looks complicated af. How do I use this?

What's a good keyboard to get for learning piano but also recording synthy stuff? Budget is around 2 grand

>>70676851
nord piano / electro hp

>>70676349
theres no kick and no pad. all sounds made with that bird sample

>i finally managed to find and install ableton suite
>i also got my electric guitar the same day
guys im coming
wish me luck

>>70676870
A little out of my price range but ok

>>70677062
they are expensive but worth it if i had the money i would get a nord for sure

Keyboards with weighted keys are shit for recording though. Response is less than ideal and good luck recording drums with it

>>70677114
what?
non-weighted keys are complete trash and I'm not even a passable pianist

>>70676801
Watch the videos on their site by Kenny Gioia. Start with the basics, and spam em on double speed. You'll be up and running by the end of the day.

Is gearslutz a decent site for information, besides /mu/ - /prod/ or course

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After exporting sound, some Kontakt tracks stop almost immediately. How do i fix this?

>>70677243
depends. there's lots of retards everywhere on the internet

>>70677243
i go on there or kvr once in a while and it seems to be mostly shills

>>70677293
set your export range so they can decay as long as needed?

>>70677243
The best place for music info is google. Anything you imagine, any problem you're having is there. Makes you wonder why people ask questions here at all

>>70677355
>Makes you wonder why people ask questions here at all
Mostly right, although some more specific questions are much harder to find an answer to.
But bullshit like 'hello how make musc?' should be ignored

https://clyp.it/4551jlj4

eh

>>70672091
>>70676349
thanks guys

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>>70676234
>tfw uneven hearing

Fuck mate, mixing is hell

>>70678284
yea one of my speakers always sounds lower in my right ear and it sucks i wish i would have worn ear protection at shows when i was younger

>>70678284
>>70678471
wanting to be a musician is the most damaging of all arts

>>70678600
performance artists do crazier shit tb.h

>>70678471
can't you just balance the volume levels in the windows mixer?

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just pulled the trigger and got me one of these, hoping it will be like a fun stepping stone into eurorack. fiddling with knobs are fun but i'm new to patching.

anyone /modular/ here? i'm hoping to eventually be playing ambient/glitchy live sets but for now i guess i'll use it for my prod things

>>70677006
there is a kick and a pad if thats how you use the bird

>>70678812
kek

just got a MIDI keyboard and downloaded FL Studio, what do I do now? Any recommendations on guides and tutorials on the web?

>>70668817
if you know something people dont, it gives you an advantage over them

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plunderphonics shit i made

https://clyp.it/gu4iydjk

all samples btw

>>70668780
Any trap Anons here?


https://clyp.it/ngt0xsm0

Made this beat and free styled it

<3

>>70678762
thats a great way to enter eurorack! You'll have to post some clypits when you get a patch or two made.

It will be an eye opening experience for sure, at least it was for me.

https://clyp.it/ohbg21gb

Thoughts?

>>70679337
cool rhythm to the samples

>>70679499
beat is good, sounds a bit distorted in the bass region at times but maybe that's intentional

>>70679667
sounds cool, good drums, maybe a bit quiet but when I turned up the volume everything seemed well balanced

Here's a thing I made to test out some new drum samples I layered up yesterday
https://clyp.it/jht5zgor

https://clyp.it/i5ktlwbs

remember when you all got trolled /prod/? haha owned idiots

>>70679940
ur mum lol

>>70679950
>https://clyp.it/i5ktlwbs
>racist/10
>still better than 7kt's "music"

>>70679950

DUDE

NIGGERS

LMAO

>>70668780
You guys probably get asked this all the time on /prod/, but what is the best DAW for relative beginners? I'm slightly familiar with Fruity Loops, having used it to make a few songs in college, and am considering getting FL Studio 12, but are there better ones for someone who is really just starting out making music?

>>70680062
ableton
t. someone who's using fl 12

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https://clyp.it/sjlediom

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>>70680116
this track reminds me of this pic

>>70680116
>https://clyp.it/sjlediom
that's not autistic at all

>>70680116
sounds fun

How to make such a nice kick like here in the drop?
https://soundcloud.com/markbreeze/mark-breeze-be-alone

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>>70680310
not after yesterday

>>70680116
ebin :-DD

>>70680116
better than 7kt/10

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>>70676349
>>70679825
>rates everyone else's music
>his own music sucks
>he stalks folk singers named lauren

>>70680412
it's not like he called everyone a faggot. I bet he called your music bad.

>>70680464
means it's not bad? how naive of you

>>70680412
second guy here, not the same as first guy. thanks for the feedback lol

>>70680464
:^)
:o)

favorite organ plugin?

>>70680570
anus

Fresh out the bando

https://clyp.it/qmuty4d0

>>70679624
i hope so! to get some physical and schematic feedback for the different parts of sound synthesis.
i thought about the mother32 first but i already have an arturia bsp for sequencing and this has more patch points, hehe!

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>>70680650
>https://clyp.it/qmuty4d0
holy fuck are you dj shadow? get your game up boys we have a legend in out mist

>>70680650

those keys sounds pretty fresh

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IF YALL DONT RAT-
https://clyp.it/4551jlj4

>>70680842
>https://clyp.it/4551jlj4
the movie psycho/10

>>70680711
>>70680721

Thanks senpaitachi

>>70680570
hauptwerk

how do you guys get motivation to finish songs? i get like a 30 second piece and have a hard time figuring out where to go next

does anyone know how to make these house/garage beats? I always try and i could never get the quantize right. any help or tutorials would be appreciated greatly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqfIvPQ8Dgo

>>70681075
set deadlines

>>70681075
structure it out

>>70681125
any sample packs with those kind of swingy beats?

>>70681125

Sounds like he used a Drum machine. Not a particularly hard pattern to make though.

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>>70681125
>>70681170
Kind of a hard thing to explain, so I made an example for you.

You want a basic pattern like pic related.

This is what it sounds like.
https://clyp.it/v41gvhzw
Obviously I didn't take any time to use appropriate drums for a sound like this, but it should give you a general idea.

>>70681125
THIS! I've also be trying to figure out how to do this

>>70679825
trapanon here

Thanks for checking !

your beat reminds me of a Sims Buy Menu theme, quirky

>>70681341
ill try it thanks. your drum track reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJx93Vyuphk

>>70681431
Yeah, that's basically the exact pattern I used.
Obviously when you're making a drum loop for a song you want to include some variations in it, but that pattern is tried and true.

here's a short piece i made any tips or thoughts?
https://clyp.it/a4w3rg35

>>70679950
>7kt took the bait and literally doesn't know NIN or Aphex Twin

>>70683033
>NIN or Aphex Twin
maybe they just suck

>>70681125
it's the syncopation that really makes garage/house beats unique from each other.

In that beat it's really the rim shot/wood block sound that makes it. I don't think it has too much swing on it, if at all.

Just try to find the location on the grid and you can get that same groove

>>70683207
I can't crack "the code". I've been trying for years and looked on youtube with no results. It's like a hidden secret percussion groove i could never find.

also any fm synthesis fags on here?

>>70680088
Why? Also, I found this list, how accurate is it? http://ehomerecordingstudio.com/best-daw-software/

>>70683434
>cubase
>not #1
not accurate desu

>>70683383
>this
I've tried everything. I've even tried to get it by accident to no avail. Can some /prod/ autist please figure it out?

>>70683207
>>70683511
this guy >>70681341 literally made you a guide
stop being autists and leave this thread

>>70681125
>>70681341
>>70681360
>>70681431
>>70681477
>>70683207
>>70683383
>>70683511
Ill send $20 to your paypal if someone can figure out how to make this beat. My house beats are horrible

>>70683656
>>>>70683625
>>>>>70681341

dude vapor lmao
https://clyp.it/tgnvac5m

>>70683656
are you fucking stupid?
RIGHT HERE >>70681341

>>70683938

Ignore him mate, its some faggot from /nba/ trolling

>>70683908
we get it you vape :^)

made this thing last night while trying out a jazzy deep house/ hip hop sound. played around with lfo rates on the rhodes emulator

https://clyp.it/2jnlt3os

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>>70683688
>>70683938
>>70683960
It sounds nothing like it. He said himself it's hard to explain. All good though, I understand if this board is all beginners who love NIN and Aphex Twin. Sorry for trying to learn something above your skill levels. I'll be back to teach all of you once I figure it out. also download reaper


HAHAHA PAPER....YEAH!

>>70683688
>>70683938
>crash cymbals 4 times in the pattern
are you this dense? I'm also curious now It's like a challenge

>/prod/ can't even make a simple house beat
lmao

t. trap producer

just started this thing a half hour ago
reminds me of the zero escape soundtracks
whaddya think, /prod/?

https://clyp.it/2ftf1mnm

>>70684401
Is this a challenge?

>>70684401
>lmao

Want to know how I know you are not from this board?

Any good tutorials for using reaper? I'm mainly interested in ambient/DS music and I'm planning to use free plugins right now.

>>70684592
yes actually. I can make all kinds of beats but this has always eluded me. I know it's the snares, rim shot and wood block like this guy >>70683207
said but I thought maybe someone here already made beats like this

>https://clyp.it/w5ux25vo

how's that

>>70684735
>https://clyp.it/w5ux25vo
>boing

>>70684784
thanks <3

How the fuck to make proper witchhouse synth
https://clyp.it/ssmz2y3n

>>70684735
needs a more defined drop

>>70684826
>https://clyp.it/ssmz2y3n
i had to go pee after i heard that
real talk

>>70684841
didn't want to make a drop but ok I understand

>>70684437
i like it. Keep working on that project. The end version might sound really interesting. But then again I also have a love for video-game sounding songs
I finally "get" how automation works in ableton.
Is there any "how to get this synth sound" tutorial for beginners?

>>70684882
you are welcome to shit as well m8
https://clyp.it/lsdjhp24
why the fuck glitch2 so fun

>>70684697
There are tons of great quality tutorials on dozens and dozens of topics at www.reaper.fm

>>70684720
I can make this beat I've been doing it for years. I just wanna see how long it takes /prod/ to get it right. no pdf's tho

>>70684882
>https://clyp.it/ssmz2y3n
>https://clyp.it/lsdjhp24
holy presets batman

>>70673183
that's pretty fuckin badass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPeQGWL7fok

what plug-in do I need for that lead synth? Thanks

>>70685540
sounds like a brass patch you can do with any synth really

>>70685560
>https://clyp.it/2ep4zpq4
*yawn*/10

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am i dank enuf

>>70685636
forgot link
https://clyp.it/pqbpsmka

Seriously!, does /prod/ know how to do anything? All you do is steal others shitty music. I was told this place was friendly and helped people but I guess I was wrong

>>70685636
>>70685658
this sounds professionally done
you sure you made this?

>>70685677
mainstream music gets shit regardless of quality, where as experimental gets praised. most dont post their tracks because they know they suck ass and jbenitex is a homosexual.

>>70685771
>jbenitex is a homosexual
you mean the king of /prod/

>>70685757
yeah it's mixed well but desu trap music always has the best frequencies so even amateur shit sounds nice
Also his taste is terrible. Well produced tho

>>70685771
>>70685798
that's that shit I don't like

>>70685757
i mean, i'm pretty confident in that fact

>>70685810
>my taste is terrible
I know a few thousand people that would disagree with you

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>>70685810
>even amateur shit sounds nice

>>70685866
>>70685866
>>70685856
it's in the nature of the 808. Of course every drum sounds nice. It's not particularly interesting nowadays though. I still respect the atlanta trap hip hop scene but edm-trap without any innovation is cancer
sorry broski. Good on you for being accomplished tho

>>70685658
>>70685856
Are you motherfucking Getter?

You will never be famous. Your dreams will never materialize. Here's why:

1. You don't innovate, no one likes someone who sounds the same as everyone else
2. Contrary to popular belief, there are "naturals", and there is literally no point competing against them. Most have been playing music since they were 5, and most can just sit down and make completely original work in half an hour(something that you can't do)
3.Even if you do become successful, are you ready to deal with the media, the long hours, the massive pressure on you to meet deadlines, etc?

Honestly just give up now and learn something more suitable like programming(you don't have to be a prodigy to make decent money from it, unlike music production).

>>70685956
...

>>70685986
this. This thread is trash.

>>70685986
>programming(you don't have to be a prodigy to make decent money from it
links?

>>70685986
fuck you asshole, I just want to produce music when i'm high and drunk so me and my friends can feel cool and rap

Poetronica
https://clyp.it/4wxqz5kl

>>70685986
i doubt people are making music to be famous here

>>70685986
Im just trying to learn this beat friendo
>>70681125

>>70686106
>https://clyp.it/4wxqz5kl
crap

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did some mixing/mastering

https://clyp.it/5425fp1b

Anyone know anything about classical music production?
I can handle the theory, but it seems quite different in production.

For example I think there is no aim to make it as loud as possible, so I'm not quite sure how loud should I make it, or if that matters that much.

https://clyp.it/rb2vfgvh

I've been working on this, thoughts?

>>70687454
beat is silly, the melody beyond simple, synths suck

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>>70687454

fresh, don't know about that synth @ 1:10 ish little harsh to my ear

is this ok so far
https://clyp.it/h2osqipb

>>70687454
the synths sound thin/generic to me
i agree that high synth is real loud and intrusive
everything is so loud idk what im supposed to focus on
>>70685986
i think a lot of ppl here me included aren't looking to be famous we just like making music
is that so hard to comprehend
>>70684437
to be honest i find that main repeating motif pretty obnoxious

>>70678698
it is slight hearing loss so it will always be a bit softer in my right ear ive learned to live with it though

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https://clyp.it/ackfpgml

ignore the generic corny lead, i'll fix it later, does my chord progression sound okay?

https://clyp.it/nd14h1qs

is this too long for what it is? for an ambient project

>>70687454
i like it

Finished this
https://clyp.it/2t0xz2hf

>>70669086
Its more likely they'll steal your ideas and just use them. Provided you actually have good ideas...

>>70685986
>making music to be famous
kek for what purpose.

I make music for myself, and to make money.

>>70688953
>level introduction music
sounds comfy as all hell

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https://clyp.it/hiiz2ume

if ur high upload this 2 ur cat and tell me what you see

I'm starting a solo rock project, and I have everything I need except for some good drum sounds. really looking for some stuff that would sound like the drums off of At Long Last A$AP, mainly tracks like Holy Ghost and Excuse Me, just the right mood in looking for. What are some good kits to look for or ways to make these sounds on my own

>>70690905
get a fucking drummer you technophile fucking cunt
t. drummer

>>70685986
>1. You don't innovate
Thing is, even if you do something "different" or "unique" there's no guarantee your work will be successful. With the right knowledge and toolset + years of work it'll eventually be super easy to make something that's technically different, but it might just not gel with people. Stumbling upon the next popular "innovative" thing before anyone else is almost entirely luck

>no one likes someone who sounds the same as everyone else
Clearly incorrect, otherwise there wouldn't be dozens of copycats with massive fanbases, would there

>>70685986
>why do you learn how to write? you'll never be a famous writer lmao
>why do you learn how to talk? you'll never be a famous politician lmao
>why do you learn how to run? you'll never be a famous athlete lmao
jesus holy hell fucking christ how dumb are you? im bored and im shit at sports so i just want to sit in my room watching anime and making music that sounds okay.

>>70691004
>Stumbling upon the next popular "innovative" thing before anyone else is almost entirely luck
lol

>>70691003
>Solo project
>Get a drummer
How thick are you?

in ableton when you do sends do you send the full amount and adjust the return fader or leave the fader at 0 and control the amount of signal sent? does it really matter? it seems like both are the same thing.

>>70691300
then learn how to play the drums you useless twat
jesus christ playing drums in rock is easier than playing bass in metal

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>>70691341
personal preference, i send the full amount, that way you can adjust both

>>70691381
Poorfag who can't afford drums and wants to do them sequenced here. Some elitist asshat you are

>>70689679
random / 10, some pretty interesting ideas overall but still very amateur

>>70690614
some of the things you play with the rhodes are pretty cool, but the whole thing is sort of a mess, not really coherent.

>>70690905
Abbey Road series for Kontakt are a must have

>>70691341
it's honestly personal preference, I do the former.

Logic users - what's your favorite synth plugin?

I've been using ES2 but I feel like everything I do with it is too synthetic-sounding. I know the new editions of Logic have Alchemy built-in but I'm at university and the wifi blocks torrents so I can't download it yet.

Any help in recreating this bass sound? Sh 101? Its such a distinct sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeiH9Mm0E5Y

>>70692103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=864fhWrrnFA

Classic square wave sound, might be hard to get perfectly without the vintage Juno though

>>70685986
>Contrary to popular belief, there are "naturals", and there is literally no point competing against them
actually, that -IS- popular belief, the science however disproves it.

who here still /cubase/

>>70691060
>music

>>70692389
cubase is my favorite daw but i use live 9 also

>>70691147
How am I wrong?

>>70692082
Definitely alchemy, probably the best addition to logic in a long time.

>>70681125
just checking in to see if /prod/ can do these beats yet.

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does anyone have a good guide to arranging the different parts of an electronic/club/house type song?

i just want to know how long and how many different parts i should have.

>>70693328
8/16/4/24/16/16/4/24/4/16/8

>>70672027
Very amateur-ish, by the way is that drum loop from Vengeance?

>>70693481
REEEEEE

could you suggest a good pictoral guide?

>>70693328
copy one of your favorite songs arrangement

whats a good cheap contact mic I can use for noise music

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Hey guys so uh, I'm a pianist and I want to record my playing but I don't really have access to a decent grand piano so..

I do have an upright Yamaha U1, I'm satisfied with the sound of it but it isn't the sound of a nice grand that I can get with sample libraries. Also, my room isn't treated. Thus my question is, assuming I want the best piano sound possible, should I bother recording my U1, or just buy a keyboard and use piano libraries like Alicia's Keys?

>>70670441
sylenth and pop chords

>>70696406
yes

>>70691341

If you're only using that send on a single track it makes no difference - either option would give you the same result (as long as setting the send knob 100% doesn't push too hot a signal to your effect) , but if you're using the same send with multiple tracks you'd need to use the send level controls to adjust effect levels for each track individually, since adjusting the return fader would change the effect level for all tracks using that send and that may not be what you want.

https://clyp.it/xijafiaz
wrote this cool little riff
can't think of what to do next
end me

>>70696984

so yeah what should i do?

>>70697020
I know this feel. What I do is either add a bunch of drum tracks until I get bored or until there's simply too many drums, or I make multiple copies of the same midi track and either change each midi track slightly, or make one long midi track with a melody that playfully wanders up and down the scale. This usually leads to me having songs with basically the same loops playing the entire time though, and what you would usually want to do, to make an interesting song at least, is have different chords/melodies/instruments playing for each different section of your song

could i get some feedback on this track i've been working on, I feels there something missing.
https://clyp.it/fabnmb1y

>>70697550
>https://clyp.it/fabnmb1y
hate it

>>70697550
keep the crowd samples if you want, but the rest of the samples need to go (back)
also maybe bounce your pianos to audio, effect them to your liking, and quietly layer them under your original pianos, because they sound boring.

>>70696406
I would buy a keyboard, I did actually, the casio privia

>>70692103
indeed, classic square wave, play around with envelopes and voices

>>70693328
you have to think the music in your head before you put it down, otherwise you'll end up with formulaic stuff that usually doesn't work. you need a vision.

>>70696088
check out the Sony PCM M10, you can turn the mic sensitivity all the way up and get crazy sounds.

>>70696406
record MIDI with a good piano library from Kontakt and you're all set

>>70697020
why don't you start with adding some drums, something a bit trappy/halftime, sidechain those chords to the drums, fuck around, add more shit, this is pretty good desu

>>70697550
has potential, but the mix is all over the place, drum samples aren't good, arrangement sounds empty overall, you need to learn how to make a mix sound full. the melodies and chords are pretty cool tho, you have potential my man.

>>70698006

What do you think about 'feel' when playing with a keyboard? I'm kinda particular about that and I want all the nuisances, stuff like hammer noise, key noise, damper pedal noise.. All of that to be replicated nicely.


>>70698597
>record MIDI with a good piano library from Kontakt and you're all set

What's the best grand piano library right now that I can [spoiler] pirate easily? [/spoiler] I already have Addictive Key's Grand piano but it doesn't even have round robin apparently.

>>70698856
Its not going to be perfect. Miking and mixing your piano would be another fucking headache. At least with midi notes you can change all kinds of aspects

>>70698856
px 350m is what I got with weighted keys. the best approach is to just stop playing on your piano for a while and become accustomed to the action of your new keyboard if you go that way. You'll adjust in time

>>70698909

Okay so eh, question..

Which one do you think would give me the best piano sound?

A total recording noob like me, with an upright piano in a totally boxy and untreated room, with a pair of AT2020, and a 2i2 as my audio interface

versus just buying a Roland A-88 and hooking it up to a decent piano library?

>>70698971
I'd go with that roland. If you don't like your piano sound you can always adjust release times and reverb and there's a million decent vst pianos to choose from and compare.

>>70698971
Does the roland have a pitch bend wheel and a mod wheel ? I wish my keyboard had a mod wheel because many vst's utilise that and its difficult to switch the pitch bend.

https://clyp.it/rtq0pdnm

not really sure where to take this, does it need a bassline? any ideas for some atmospheric sounds to make it sound fuller? feedback in general? ty

>>70698999

I don't know about my piano sound, but I always feel that it lacks the depth that a grand piano has. Here's a very very very rough recording of it using my phone.

https://clyp.it/khkofwox

I was playing around with a recorded Bill Evans MIDI file with Addictive Keys, and I really liked the results, but I'm not sure how it would 'feel' with a keyboard, after all there's like only 7 or so velocity layer per key.

>>70699076
I'm not sure about that I don't think that is so important to me.

I've been working on a few songs for a while without getting any kind of feedback through the process which could be kind of bad.
Eventually I'll put em together as an EP though. I'm at that stage where I just keep working on the tracks endlessly and I may be damaging their integrity.

Here's one of them, what do you guys think I need to improve?

https://clyp.it/qnmplgec

>>70698856
try the grandeur, it's pretty neat

>>70699123
this has potential, I like the atmosphere a lot however it needs work, make the drums louder, they're pretty drowned in the mix and use different samples, get 'em pumping, I'm also hearing a real bassline on this, sidechained to the drums, a bit of interesting modulations and whatnot as well, you can develop this into a full on track.

>>70699535
sounds like the keys of the different samples are clashing with each other, honestly sounds a bit aimless and like you put a bunch of random samples together along with a drum beat.

my gfs brother doesnt know shit about audio but tries using technical jargon i know he doesnt know because im actually employed and worked for years in media

No, you don't need a "preamp" to plug a guitar into a computer. Youre not wrong, but I wouldnt say you need a bus to plug a guitar into a computer

I know that a good way to check a mix is playing it in different sound systems/devices. Im the one who told you that

no, using canned beats that autonatically time for you while your comedically deadpan voice tries to keep up doesnt make you a musician either. I've spent years playing instruments as hobby and in school, i would hardly even qualify myself as one

Get a job or go to school for real and move out of your moms house at least once youre 22 its embarrassing

Can anyone tell me what vst will create a sound similar to these keys? >https://soundcloud.com/thouxanbanmanfauni/wish-the-worst

>>70699123
pretty cool anon. kinda sounds like album leaf. They an inspiration for you?

I think it depends what you want to do with it, if you want it to be a full song. I think it could be a good intro piece with it's current instrumentation and length, otherwise i'd agree with >>70699689

>>70685677
I don't need the reassurance so I don't post here, I assume everybody else decent is the same

I just lurk to give people mixing advice mostly... desu it sounds like the vast majority only sound okay because they're throwing presets around and writing really cheesy shit. I've heard a few good tunes over the past year though. I wish more people posted rock or experimental/idm songs though

I want to make really cheesy oldschool trance purely on hardware, any advice? I just got an Electribe Sampler 2 and I was looking at getting JP8000.

>>70699785
>I wouldnt say you need a bus to plug a guitar into a computer

dood xD

What exactly do I do with layers? I just linked them but nothing happens at all

>>70699689
>honestly sounds a bit aimless
Well that's a shame but thanks for the advice, I did hear some issue with it and I guess I was just trying to salvage it was it was instead of completely reworking it. Could I post a couple more and get some feedback?

>>70678762
M808 let me know what you think of that when you get it thinking of getting one myself

>>70699965
while the JP8000 supersaw is responsible for the sound of trance, it does have a uniquely thin sound that kinda sounds dated today imo, especially for leads. That might be what you are after but also check out other synth from that era, might be more beefy.

>quasimidi raven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC5uxvSJTj8

>emu xl-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1DpkKCJgvc

>access virus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pkc9YM1lxs

>novation supernova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8xOXnPXUU

>korg ms-2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvTZ-wHrrj4

>>70700718

>korg ms-2000

Thanks! I actually have an MS-2000R which I absolutely love, I'm looking for a second synth. Was also looking at the Virus. What bass/drums should I be looking to sample on the electribe?

Trancy sounding UK Hardcore
What do you think?
Is there too much high frequencies in this one?

https://clyp.it/gbsztn21

Should I go to grad school for /prod/?

>>70701084
No
.

hardware question:

should I get the ARP Odyssey or the Minilogue? they're both $500, I don't really care about polyphony or stuff like that I'm just concerned with sound possibilities and quality

>>70701154
try them yourself
they're both great

>>70699812
honestly the 808 is so loud that those keys could be anything, you can barely hear them, probably some classic trap bells or some shit

>>70700155
what kind of layers?

>>70700164
of course bro

>>70701019
this track is 10/10, minus the (like you said) highs, they're a bit ear piercing but you have a fuckin solid nice track here m8.

>>70701084
no

>>70669487
Try restarting your computer

>>70699819
never heard of them until now, pretty good tho.

>>70699689
ty

https://soundcloud.com/theprinceofspace/moser-or-onen-remix-1

>>70669487
You have to actually record the audio of the synth track before you render. DAWs can't magically convert midi data into the audio coming from your hardware synth, it has to capture it on a specified audio track.

Are Roland SP-404SX's worth it? I'm considering buying it, I just about have the spare cash for it but don't want to drop like 300 to 400 dollars on something that's not worth it.

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>>70681125
just checking in to see if /prod/ can make this drum pattern yet? i'll check in later

>>70702446
dude stop being fucking retarded

Are we on the topic of drum patterns we want to figure out?

Can someone map out the pattern on this death grip track like the dude above did

the part from ~1:05

https://youtu.be/AXnxCnarZGs?t=1m5s

>inb4 memes
pls

>>70701154
only get the minilogue if you care about polyphony. it's a chord/pad machine, especially with the clicky envelope issue on short attacks/releases.

>>70702637
sounds like a fast d&b variation

How do I get the punchy eurobeat synth sound?

Like:
https://youtu.be/npmnjoDYpiQ?t=1m16s

https://youtu.be/qs6BiPwqBU0

>>70702985
damn i might have to start listening to eurobeat after hearing this

>>70701869

trippy, literally wtf, also /10, 10/10 ending tho

>>70702637
if you listen to it (you can slow it down) you can easily map it yourself, do it as an exercise, no point if others do it for you

>>70702985
punchy knocky kicks with no sub tail and ear piercing supersaws but honestly, try to get a bit better in production in general, then you'll know the answer yourself ;)

>>70703486
>no point if others do it for you
you mean nobody here knows how to do it

>>70703606
this

>>70703606
no, I mean that we're all too lazy to write down an obvious drum pattern and it wouldn't do you any good :)

https://clyp.it/onhqat40

honest thoughts on this?

>>70703707
>obvious
but yet nobody here has the skill to do it. you can't make this you're personal music clip review blog

>>70703773
>this
I'd like to see someone do it

>>70703486
>>70703486
>if you listen to it (you can slow it down) you can easily map it yourself, do it as an exercise, no point if others do it for you
i tried and shit it up, that's why i asked. it would be more time efficient to see what i messed, and it would also benefit you, if you believe in exercise. unless it's too simple for you

>>70703773
I agree this board had gotten too edgy. 1 guy taking over this entire thread and berating anyone who doesn't conform to his 3x3

>>70703822
let it go bro. this isn't a helpful board at all. they won't listen until you talk Chvrches baselines then you'll get somewhere

>>70703844
>>70703864
why you letting one autist ruin it for everyone?

>>70703741
>https://clyp.it/onhqat40
the hihats made me want to pull my hair out

>>70702481
I mean look at this post. the guy was just asking a simple question and got shit on? not productive at all. i'm good with old school hiphop samples if anyone needs help

>>70703909
why is that? some frequencies hurt your ear?

>>70703972
they were overpowering and took over the song as a gimmick

>>70703991
I agree they lack variation

>>70703991
>>70704061
great, I'll add some mixups and lower the hats in the mix. any other tips?

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>>70681125
>>70683656
>>70702446

https://clyp.it/h4bqovnk
>Quantized to 16th + 16T
>MPC 16 Swing - 56
>pic related

>>70701019
sounds fucking great.

might wanna try to drop the first note of every cycle an octave down, melody sounds a little 'too bouncy' as it is.

>>70702446
>>70703864

/nba/ pls go, stop stalking Sam