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The anti-poseurcore movement is what /mu/ needs. Music should always be seen on one field. We need less elitism not more.

Why? It creates discussion.

There is no such thing as entry-level and such, only good and bad albums that are subjective. People need to stop acting like /mu/core and well known and well liked indie albums are somehow bad because a lot of people like and respect them. That shows insecurity with your own taste.

That being said, go exploring, go like whatever music you want to like, but don't rub it in the face of others that you have different taste. Talk about it with them, say "hey I found this cool album if you like _______ you should check it out".

Our mission is simple. We want to end the pathetic competition for "good" taste on /mu/ that the nu-males on /daily/ created. Music should be for fun, not for showing off. Enjoy music for music. Poseurs will hang.

Dear reader, we would like to take this opportunity to inform you on a regrettable subculture which has been forming on our beloved /mu/.

>WHAT IS THEIR NAME?

Poseurs.

>WHAT IS THEIR DEAL?

Poseurs are people who go out of their way to cultivate an image of being interesting, by and large through doing their best to cultivate a "sophisticated" music taste.
HOWEVER, as these people have no self-sufficiency of their own, or any knowledge or familiarity with music beyond the pop sphere presented on sites such as Pitchfork, the best they can do to cultivate that image is to go on RateYourMusic and sheepishly drone the top-rated albums of whatever niche genre they think will bring them the most "patrician" or "underground" or "sophisticated" credibility.

IF you were to question them on the merit an album they claim to be a favorite, they would not be able to provide any substantial opinion or judgment regarding it(only empty buzzwords which they regurgitate without ever giving any thought to what they mean or how they relate to that artist) as in reality they have none of the knowledge which would help them to properly evaluate it.
The vast majority of them don't know music theory or have any sort of education(whether through personal exploration or professional education) on music/art history and have no familiarity with the origins, backgrounds and histories of their "favorite" genres, albums and artists. Their education begins and ends with RYM pages and lists and /mu/ chart thread images.

More effort goes into building up the perfect "patrician" RYM profile and curve using the perfect combination of albums and ratings than into actually trying to understand and genuinely appreciate what they are hearing.

This utter dilettantism and ignorance, however, does not prevent them from nurturing severe superiority complexes which serve as fuel for regular mockery, ridicule and debasement of the rest of this fine board's residents.

Super ae is a fun album idk why it's on the chart

>BUT WHAT DO POSEURS ACTUALLY (CLAIM TO) LISTEN TO?

Presented in the OP is a brief introduction to the wild world of poseurcore. It is not an attempt at making a statement regarding the quality of the music produced by those artists. It is not the only music which poseurs listen to. It's just a quick rundown. If you wish, you can also take note of this somewhat more expansive text list of poseurcore favorites.

Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe

>WHAT ABOUT GENRES?

Genres popular among poseurs include, among others: jazz and its variants, industrial music, noise and its variants, "world music" and its variants, non-dance-oriented electronic music and its variants, "smart pop" music, "experimental" music in general.

>WHY SHOULD I CARE?

Because poseurs make this board a more toxic and uninviting place.
Because they fuel tension and antagonism.
Because their use of music as an ego-building tool sets a bad example.
Because, ultimately, their mentalities regarding music, art and their fellow man are just no good.

>IS THERE A SPECIFIC PLACE ON /MU/ WHERE POSEURS CONGREGATE?

Yes. The hottest beds of poseur activity on /mu/ are the /RYM/, /daily/ and Top 100 album chart general threads.
Take note of the mentalities with which music is approached in these threads and you are bound to find even more repulsive details than have been exposed in this thread.

Lesser quantities of poseurs can also be found in threads such as the Last.fm threads and the 3x3 Last.fm collage threads. These are a more benign and inconsequential variety of poseur, but they are poseurs nonetheless.

>Wow, this is some pretty heavy shit to take in. WHAT SHOULD I DO? HOW CAN I HELP PUT A STOP TO THIS?

That, friend, is entirely up to you.

This has been an informative thread regarding the subject of POSEURCORE. Thank you for your attention,

- The /mu/ Anti-Poseur Initiative

>>70660912
doesnt creating a separate category for "poseur" music inherently go against the ideals of the anti poseurcore movement though? if it is true that the primary goal is to end elitism and barriers such as "entry level", then how will classifying these albums as "poseurcore" help to accomplish this?

>>70661117
>It is not an attempt at making a statement regarding the quality of the music produced by those artists. It is not the only music which poseurs listen to. It's just a quick rundown.

So is this the Ed Sheeran thread?

>>70660964
>fun album
let me guess, you don't know shit about music theory am I right?

how pretentious do you have to be to spell poser with a u

>>70661357
Shut the fuck up you elitist dickhead

Fuck you daikanjyo is actually really fucking good. I found it long before I came here

hypothetical question, I'm new to the "anti-poseur" movement. Would somebody be considered a poseur if they do check RYM for niche genres and listen to harsh noise, wall noise, whatever, but actually enjoy it and don't shitpost about it or question people about their tastes?

>>70661357
you don't need to know music theory to think music is fun
chances are, you don't know music theory besides basic chords

>>70661653
No. I'm in the same boat. I don't give a fuck if my music taste is unique or obscure, I just listen to stuff I like.

>>70660912
Fuck off Monty, or I'll post your dead retard cousin and ugly girlfriend again

Fuck you Fishmans - Long Season is amazing

>>70661653
>>70661722
If you're a poser then you listen to music as a fashion statement. Has nothing to do with actual musical taste. Posers "like" harsh noise to feel superior to others but there are people who like harsh noise without the holier than thou attitude.

>>70661735
>dead retard cousin

Sauce on what happened here?

>>70661771
If you know music theory explain why it is amazing, if you don't your opinion doesn't matter

Do poseurs read WIRE?

>>70660971
the only band i like from that list is the residents, am i a poseur?

>>70662115
holy kek, the residents are like the biggest poseurs in music kys fag

>>70662099
it's widely acclaimed by listeners and music critics, so if anything you're the one who has to explain why it's bad

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>>70660912

>still worrying about poseurcore
>not concerned with combating post-poseurcore

In case you don't know, you can tell from its name that post-poseurcore is a reaction to poseurcore. These are albums people listen to to try and combat their posuercore image. They'll often over-insist that their tastes are sincere and they truly have fun or get emotional over this music, but it's obvious they're really just as much of a posuer as before.

>>70660926
No we need to talk about Niel Ciecgaria and Gorillaz every 2 seconds
fuckin poseur

>>70660912
>>70662461
I hate this board so much
learn to respect other people's music taste instead of throwing every album you don't like/understand in a chart and saying only dumb people like it. if anything, you're the posers

>>70660912
jeepers, that's the best darned chart of snazzy tunes i've ever done seen on this ol' web zone

>>70661696
>>70661773
Yeah I find 21 Pilots fun fun
and I won't let you guys bash it because it's FUN and you can't argue with that
contrarian poser tryhards

>>70662461
I'd add Cardiacs, The United States of America, Van Dyke Parks and The Caretaker

>>70660926
without elitism, shit taste becomes the norm. See the current state of /mu/ for an example.

>>70662602
>The United States of America
delet

>>70662674
contrarian poseur tryhard

>>70662569
21 pilots is a shit example because not even angsty teens find their music fun. just angsty

>>70662727
No it's popular and it's fun
if you hate it you are >>70662699
This is /mu/ logic on music

>>70662099
How is music theory relevant to popular music again?

>>70662753
No 21 Pilots don't count because they aren't praised by fantano or p4k

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>>70662554
teach acceptance instead of respect
people are more willing to accept than respect

>>70662797
troll

>>70662861
But seriously, where in popular music would I go to find creative uses of contrapuntal technique and intellectual harmonic language? Popular music in general should be poseur-core because surely you cannot enjoy such bland music that has contributed nothing to the intellectual sphere of art.

(this is sarcasm, by the way)

>>70662976
hahahahaha! hahahahaha? hahahahaha!

OP is a poptimist then?

Or a kshitter?