/shugazi/ - Shoegaze, Dream Pop, Noise Pop, Blackgaze, etc

It's tripped-out droning shoegaze, which is cool, but I'm not even drooling

>>70596219
What's cool about drool in your shoe?

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Is there any other album that uses glitch and IDM elements in unconventional and unexpected ways/genres like Velocity : Design : Comfort does? Not even necessarily shoegaze, but really anything.

It's one of my favorite albums of all time and it's hard to believe nobody else has even attempted to do something like this considering how well they pull it off. The closest I've found is múm but they have their own thing going on.

dead general lol

>>70596359
i think there's something about complex electronic music and how only people who spent time with the equipment know how it's made that scares rock musicians and people interested in shoegaze away from it.
so that ends up being the only album of it's kind

>>70597548
i guess that also applies to a making a loveliescrushing type album that requires you to be pretty knowledgeable about guitar pedals to make well. so there ends up only being one band that does it

once you learn to play guitar you usually just want to play it like a guitar

anyone gonna go to Slowdive's Brooklyn show during their North American tour? I know it's still months away but

>>70596359
I mean you get bands playing with electronic instruments in shoegaze, but for most shoegaze bands, or even rock bands in general, don't like stepping out of their comfort zone. Like >>70597548 said, there isn't a huge overlap in people that both are into shoegaze and IDM/glitch AND have the know-how to be able to make both genres. Even if you take a step back from shoegaze, it's still hard to find albums that mix IDM and rock subgenres at all.

Off the top of my head one of the other bands that experimented with this kind of thing would be Bowrey Electric, but they have a more trip hop/downtempo thing going.

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Is there such a thing as folkgaze or bluesgaze

>>70599651
https://wildivy.bandcamp.com/releases
>folkgaze

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUxQf7gjdW8
>bluesgaze?

>>70596359
I can't believe pitchfork ignored this in their shoegaze list and IDM list.
It's also a shame that Sweet Trip didn't continued with this sound on their next album.

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>>70598696
I'm hopefully going

>>70600161
has p4k ever covered sweet trip?

>>70596359
I don't know why I'd not listened to Sweet Trip before but I'm listening to their first album now, really love it.
Would The Depreciation Guild count? Only heard one of their songs but it was like a glitch shoegaze sound

>>70597429
fuck you

>>70601168
the depreciation guild is more chiptune than idm imo but they do have a similar style to V:D:C, i personally enjoy both

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>>70596359

>>70597548
>>70599511
Makes sense, I guess. Kinda disappointing though, I had always figured there would be some post-rock or post-punk people who would be into that sort of thing. I think there's a lot of potential.

>>70600161
Sweet Trip is fanatically popular on /mu/ and RYM and basically nowhere else.
It's a shame because they really are a pretty incredible group

>>70601168
Depreciation Guild is alright but based on In Her Gentle Jaws they mostly just use the electronics in the percussion whereas Sweet Trip imo does a way better job of combining the guitars and electronics

>>70601565
This seems like exactly what I'm looking for, thanks Anon

I don't know jack about guitars but I'm fascinated with the sounds that are created in shoegaze. Is there like a resource I can use that chronicles the different types of guitar pedals and whatnot and what sounds they make?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khPqYH23F-E

What do you cats think of Catherine Wheel?

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>>70601788
hey try this it's not really idm and not *really* shugazi but it's dreamy and psychedelic and broadcast was on warp

maybe i ust like it so much cause i already like broadcast's other stuff

>>70602085
I actually just listened to Tender Buttons last week because I thought it was going to scratch the itch I had. More Kraftwerk than Autechre but still pretty interesting.

What are their other two albums like? And
>broadcast WAS on warp
Are they confirmed done for? That's sad.

>>70600161
The Sweet Trip guy said in a reddit thread that he thinks VDC is worse than the other album.

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>>70596359
A Japanese band called Freezing Butterfly put out a single in 2000 and one of the track mixes was this weird EAI/IDM fusion. It's the closest to VCD and to your descriptor.

Here it is if you're interested.

http://www59.zippyshare.com/v/mOnNXPKv/file.html

>>70602340
Noise Made By People is like a cross between Stereolab and USA. Haha Sound is more of the same but with a bit more sonic experimentation and electronics.

>Are they confirmed done for?
Lead singer died in 2011

Anyone have a mega link for Beat?

>>70602595
I'll check both out, then. Haha Sound sounds like a lot of fun.

>Lead singer died in 2011
Oh what the fuck she did. I've been listening to this album like crazy and reading about their career and somehow I had no idea.

>>70601895
Usually websites of pedal companies have audio samples to let you hear how the pedal sounds. If they don't, you could just look up the pedal on YouTube and probably find something.

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Is there anything else like sonic youth meets shoegaze? this is the closest i can find and i really love this album

>>70601895
Here's the only one you'll ever need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDUUQ4Bpre0

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this is really good
who else sounds like them

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>>70603270
idk maybe SPECTRES' DYING

>>70603287
imagine if he started shredding it

>>70603335
The Dandy Warhols

>>70603287
where 2 cop

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Is this one shugazi?

What would you guys say are shoegaze's greatest hits in terms of songs that were influential, but also popular and successful crossover hits. Obviously MBV's Only Shallow, Ride's Vapour Trail, and Slowdive's Alison come to mind.

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i've been listening to pic related often, it's a personal favorite and i think among the pinncales of amerigaze

>>70595681
oh hey neat bowery electric
beat is better, but nice to see they're loved
>>70600161
dosen't that make sweet trip more special though?
i'd rather a band have one really really good experimental period and then move on instead of just finding one sound and sticking with it forever
VDC won't go away even if sweet trip does
>>70602589
thanks friendo!
>>70603335
try lilys
and the field mice

hey who else is seeing lilys in sf next week

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How do I into sonic youth?
How do I into jesus and mary chain?


Recently tried "the fauns- the fauns" and loved it. Which other album by them should I check out?

>>70596359
when the synth drops in dedicated, I am unable to control my eargasms.

>>70605392
daydream nation

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<-Here are some shoegaze albums that I absolutely love.

Based on this can someone recommend what I should try next? Give me an album recommendation?

Right now I'm slowly getting into sonic youth.

Would appreciate other suggestions.

>>70605578
anything else?
have that album saved

>>70602589
pls post the whole album

>>70605696
Sister

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>>70605642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_IEqoEgQBQ

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>>70605642
This too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mUBb394JE

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>>70605642
yoyoyo
https://youtu.be/V-mId6cTGbc
bitch

>>70606138
>>70606035
>>70606010
I sincerely mean it when I say that I love you anons. Thank you for the recommendations.

>>70601895

Just search for pedal demos on youtube, there are a lot of weird ones but you should get a sense of what the main effects sound like fairly quickly.

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>>70606255
Cheers dude! Definitely check out Manon Meurt's self titled album too (pic related)

>>70600200
oh shit im going

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>>70606255
i love you.

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Been listening to this for a couple of weeks. Psychedelic/dream pop

>>70602068
this fucking sucks
gtfo3

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Vs5ZpmKs8

>>70608409
Nice album anon

>not agalloch

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What do you all think of the new track by slowdive : star roving?

>>70609018
it aint even make me cry
or feel much really
but it's alright i guess

>>70609018
I like it but I don't love it.

I've never been the biggest Slowdive fan, I love Pygmalion and a few tracks off Souvlaki and Just For a Day, and I dunno it just feels like I need to hear more. Like don't get me wrong, it's good, but I'm just not that turned on by it.

>>70609018
>inb4 muh mastering autism

>>70609445
Loudness in mastering is a big deal you epic memer. If you strangle the dynamics out of a song by overcompressing it makes it so it's all the same volume and as a result it loses a lot of depth.

It's not a big deal for regular music listeners, but for people who notice these kinds of things it can drive them up a wall.

>>70596359
You will never know why is objectively better than velocity

>>70609605
>Good shoegaze album is better than unique and good shoegaze album
I disagree

>>70603335
rollerskate skinny reunion when

>>70609774
they're not popular enough for even them to think it's a good idea

so there's blackgaze
but where's the
thrashgaze

>>70609955
there needs to be atmospheric thrash first

>>70603979
>beat is better than s/t
Ya rite!

>>70610822
Their s/t doesn't do what it tries to do better than Beat does what it tries to do. Beat has more clarity, and it makes it more hypnotic. What does s/t do better?

Gonna be doing shrooms some time soon. Any shugazi recs for the trip?
I've done it once before, but was bumping mostly hip hop (Donuts & Low End Theory) and Pet Sounds.

>>70610925
>>70610822
>doesn't know that Lushlife is obviously their best

>>70610997
not shoegaze but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURAKQV7q_o

>>70612111
checked and seconded

>>70606138
I used to lurk/post a bunch in /shugazi/ last year around this time and the end of 2015, I somehow missed this album, not the guy you recc'd it to but good rec regardless.

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>>70613924
Yeah, sounds like a mix of You Will Never Know Why and pic related.

>>70612111
why tho

Beat > Lushlife > BE

>tfw can't listen to bowery electric since noticing all their songs are 2 chords back and forth

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>>70615551
Yeah and loveless is all 4 chord rock n roll. It's a genre staple to not have complex harmony.

>>70615551
They'd be even better if they just stuck to one chord.

>>70615940
you can have simple songs without them being generic, boring and going nowhere

>>70615960
they do have some one chord songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhGRlJqkFC4

>>70607192
I really can't get into this but I fucking LOVE the Winks and Kisses EPs.

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>>70605642
>>70605392
>by them
the only one you havent heard

>>70616261
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhGRlJqkFC4
this shit go hard as hell
very good very good

>>70603691
More noise-pop/Jangle-pop. But still a solid record.

>>70616261
>generic, boring and going nowhere
did you think BE's music was generic, boring and going nowhere before you noticed they were simple?

>>70609955

Powergaze would be neat. Do we have any shoegaze albums about dragons and wizards yet?

>>70610663

Why? We already know what both thrash and shoegaze sound like, there's no need for a bridging genre. Thrashgaze would probably be easy as shit to write too, just take any generic thrash riff but throw on a shitload of reverb and whatnot. Do clean vocals lower in the mix with delay or something. Maybe slower melodic choruses.

Someone get on it! I'd do it but I'm a fraud that can't actually play the guitar.

>>70619180
just make it yourself out of samples
probably easier than using an actual guitar and pedals

>>70596359
I wish they'd come back and make another album.
These guys really had something.
https://youtu.be/0aaaSNXxZFA

Hey, /Shugazi/, my radio show is back on the air today and I'm planning to make it all about shoegaze this semester. Today's just going to be a sort of intro day with a few albums I recently picked up and a bunch of the station's top 30. Would you anons be interested in listening?

>>70619180
I don't know if fantasy themes fit into the romantic meloncholy aesthetic shoegaze has but if it's done well I don't see why it couldn't happen.

>>70620190
yeah sure man, give us a link

>>70620705
http://dragonradio.org/listen-online/

I'll be live in about 10 minutes.

>>70620773
fuck it ill listen
>>70619180
An Alabama shoegaze band called Wray describes themselves as "powergaze" but not because of the subject matter. More to do with song structure I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p569TJ1msiE

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yo /shugazi/
did a cover of one of my fave hanl songs a while ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGoZwCSWAJY
dig.

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>>70605642
Got u senpai

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cluWL5K2IHM

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>>70623613
Fuck this is so good.
I checked that this is from the album "Daylight Storms". Is the entire album this good and worth checking out?

I love it when shoegaze has nice drumming instead of mostly relying on guitar and vocals as instruments.

Post more of your favorite stuff senpai.

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*takes drink*

>>70600200
>>70606747
I'm >>70598696. Pretty hyped, never been to a concert before lads. hopefully I remember to buy tickets tomorrow

>>70625277
>>70598696
Im definitely going. I love Japanese Breakfast.
Also to the lads who this with be his first concert, bring earplugs, your ears will thank you

>>70625015
haha what's that dude drinking?

>>70625516
Is Japanese Breakfast opening?

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>>70625015
*turns into one if these things"

>>70627858
o shit i didnt even notice
she drinkin

>>70612111
Boom baby
Floating World and the title track are better than anything Portishead or Massive Attack ever did

>>70621642
Pretty cool, are the instruments tracked or programmed?

>>70609445
shoegaze is about texture, if it clips and affects the track, that's an issuee

>>70630252
well maybe that song isn't really the most texture-based song but still

>>70632755
what's some BUMPIN shoegaze

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Anyone heard of Allison's Gate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5pBy4oj8bI

>>70628440
cheers! only drums are programmed, piano/bass/cello are the Real Deal

>>70630252

That's still a texture. Don't get me wrong, I dislike the new Slowdive song too. You can't just pretend it magically doesn't have texture though. Literally every sound has texture, you just don't appreciate some of them.

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>>70599782
>https://wildivy.bandcamp.com/releases
This is really good. Thanks anon

>>70630252
>>70635286
I know digital limiting is a big part of the aesthetic Trent Reznor goes for with Nine Inch Nails and it fits with the sound but I don't think this new slowdive track benefits from it.

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>>70623613
Not the guy who asked but put this album on and damn it's good. Any other bands/albums similar I may have missed? I remember going through (pic related) last year, has there been any updates? I forgot how great shoegaze is, and this is probably the best general in terms of quality recommendations and asking questions like this.

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Do you have any blackgaze recs? I'm looking for something like Nadja

>>70602589
I need more of this

>>70627125
yea

>>70637389
shit i gotta go

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>>70625516
>tfw even medium name artists like Slowdive don't come to your city
What's wrong with Denver?

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>>70635754
Have you been through the other shugazi chart that gets posted frequently?

In terms of shoegaze + dream pop releases last year, the only ones I even remember were Pinkshinyultrablast's Grandfeathered and Sound of Ceres's Nostalgia for Infinity.

>>70619989
Things To Ponder While Falling is so fucking good.

>"Probably the last Sweet Trip song ever"
>Later updated to "Probably (not) the last Sweet Trip song ever"
What did he mean by this?
:(

>>70637834
This Slowdive tour is pretty pathetic desu
You're telling me the best you can do after all this buildup and 20 goddamn years of waiting is five dates?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HoBYVxR8Ns

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>>70596359

>>70609018
I quite like it!

>>70623765
>>70635754

Try these

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l8sXJJi2wP0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=natQF-y0Ez8

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kM42pBquDHo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEOX17Oueug

>>70623613
Love this, the MEGA link for the album was in the archive if anyone cares.

https://mega.nz/#!h9BCzYrY!WtQFc0Nj84AnBXEqTfObZJZNRcuOKgJhS_DvXgVBgmY

>>70623765
I only heard that one song but it instantly reminded me of Airiel, specifically their Winks and Kisses EPs.

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whszf4xTtLM

It's a 4 EP set, you should be able to find a mega link in the archive. If not, hit me up and I'll upload.

would japandroids be considered "noise pop" or am i retarded

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Does anyone have wild nothing golden haze? Archive one is dead

>>70640487
idk some people call pavement's slanted and enchanted noise pop cause it's lo fi but I don't think the noisiness of that album is emphasised or made important enough in the song to call it noise pop

>>70640586
can grab it for you if you want anon

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Is there any more like this? As in less muddy and sleepy than much in this genre and more like a waterfall in a cathedral

>>70641587
TAP are fairly unique with the ridiculous amounts of layers they use, on top of their weird production practises. That being said, there's a bunch of bands that do capture a similar kind of atmosphere;
Planning For Burial, Life in Slow Motion, Have a Nice Life and Ambersmoke for instance.

And I've just plugged my own stuff earlier in this thread, but I'm rly strongly influenced by them too;
https://debutantemusic.bandcamp.com/track/schirm

Have fun!

>>70640487
Wouldn't noise pop be more along the lines of stuff like Sleigh Bells?

>>70641587
Look into Nadja

t. just scrolling /mu/ and saw that album cover

>>70641587
Oh, and Giles Corey, Jesu and The Goslings might be to your liking too.

>>70641828
Thanks anon, I'll listen through your suggestions right now.

WSWS hit me like a sledgehammer for some reason. I don't usually get a strong reaction out of music like that.

>>70603270
bailter space

>>70605392
>Sonic Youth
Listen to Sister then Daydream Nation.

>Jesus & Mary Chain
Psychocandy

>>70640487
desu noise pop and noise rock are kind of screwy genres. Like Psychocandy is considered noise pop, but so are things like Sleigh Bells.

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>>70642001
bamp

>>70603335
i literally can't stop listening to cradle burns

>>70605392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2bzrCCKDwc

>>70640387
I wish I hadn't listened to In Your Room first. It's one of my favourite shoegaze songs and every other Airiel song just felt a bit underwhelming afterwards.

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>>70605642
listen to The Depreciation Guild
start with In Her Gentle Jaws, then if you like it listen to Spirit Youth
Even if you don't like it, listen to Spirit Youth regardless
I feel like half of this general hasn't listened to it, but it's honestly better than In Her Gentle Jaws imo

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>>70641587
also check out True Widow

>>70644429
I feel like In Her Gentle Jaws is better overall, but the last minute of White Moth is by far the best music they've put out. Definitely second recommending them, in any case.

>>70644535
I just feel like In Her Gentle Jaws overuses chiptunes a bit while Spirit Youth integrates it better into the overall sound
I mean it's cool if you prefer In Her Gentle Jaws, I just never see Spirit Youth posted here so I feel like it should be represented a bit

>>70641419
That be awesome

>>70644429
Seconding this. Depreciation Guild is fucking top tier.

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>>70637884
updated version, but not much changed tbqhfam

>>70644623
No worries, both are just great.

>>70644623
I can see why someone would think this. Spirit Youth is really good too.

For me personally, there were tracks on Gentle Jaws that really worked well with the balance. Parasol Parachute is still my favorite from them, and I think it's a decent example of this.

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Where do I go from here?

>>70634197
They're alright.

>>70644855
I thought they would they continue to work on this :(

>>70650085
I think they were planning on it, people were reccing what to change a thread like 6 months ago or something, but I haven't seen them around in a while

>>70650354
Wonder of one of them is lurking still...

>>70645722
The KVB

>>70645722
Well what did you like/dislike from it?
What do you want after hearing that?

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AOTY 2016

>>70644465
Heavier than most, but not nearly as heavy as the other suggestions.

>>70654028
what the darn is this

>>70616302
I liked Think Tank and The Sealand, that's about it. Wish I bought the 3 LP set for Winks & Kisses when I had the chance.

>>70654450
Trementina - Almost Reach the Sun

>>70609018
I for one loved it.