Who is the David Lynch of the music industry?

>>70576924
David Lynch

Without being David Lynch himself
Scott Walker

>>70576939
/thread

Michael Gira

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i am the only person ive ever known that didn't like twin peaks. i don't get the hype

>>70577032
I'm a fan of his works but I absolutely hate the hype for the show. It's a soap opera that aired during prime time, that's basically it. Just watch FWWM.

>>70576924
Olivier Manchion

>>70576924
David Byrne

>>70576939
Came here to post this.

>>70576989
>Without being David Lynch himself
Martin Gore

Oneohtrix Point Never

Axl Rose

Objectively it's Trent Reznor

>>70576989
/thread

>>70576924
He looks like Stephan Bonnar.

>>70576924
Frank Zappa.

>>70577290
Poor man's Jamie Stewart (which is the right answer to OP's question)

>>70577032
>>70577057
delet this

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"Alright Trenty my boy. Are you ready to trigger some seizures in your fans?"

>>70577057
>great score, sound, and visuals
>jungian themes of dream analysis and synchronicity
>signature lynchian examination of small-town america's seedy underbelly
>just a "soap opera that aired during prime time"

i don't think so

It used to be Brian Eno.
Maybe he still is.

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>don't trust anyone, not even Lynch

Even without the twin peaks album i think Xiu Xiu/Jamie makes sense.

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post yfw may 21st finally comes

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>>70579324

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>>70579324
i'm so excited i bought this, despite hearing some pretty mixed things about it.

>>70576924
The XX

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anyone else buying the fire walk with me vinyl tomorrow?

>>70579423
>>70577057
Do you happen to know what TV shows were like up until the early 90's? They were quite simplistic and they were mainly procedurals about police officers, lawyers, etc. The story always wrapped up in a single episode. And then came David Lynch. Story over ached and didn't unfold almost until the end of the series. What's not to get? The man almost singlehandedly revolutionized TV shows.
https://youtu.be/95rPpCa3Lpg

>>70579324
What if it sucks?

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Jeffries is dead
Log Lady is dead
Albert is dead
Major Briggs is dead

Bob has been keeping busy

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>>70579576

I don't like your attitude. We live in such cynical times that it's considered quaint to have even he slightest bit of hope. Rise above the pessimism. It's okay to put your trust in something once in awahile

>>70579576
if this were anybody else i'd be apprehensive, but lynch has made a career of quality and consistency. the only time he falls flat (see: dune) is when executives interfere. i wouldn't say everything he's done is brilliant, but at the very least he's never boring.

>>70579576
it probably will
there's an ensemble cast of like 300 characters that have speaking roles
there is no way this shit will be good

>>70579819
Dune is a mess but it's a beautiful mess

>>70576924
Angelo Badalamenti

>>70579938
exactly, even his failures are fun to watch.

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what did she mean by this?

>>70579576
I highly doubt it.

>>70579408
Is it good?

>>70579408
Mark Frost is a writer primarily so even if Lynch wasn't involved in the book it's a good read. Also the inconsistencies seem to be intentional, pretty spooky stuff

>>70579991
it hasn't shipped to me yet but i hope to read it soon.

>>70580001
you've read it?

>>70579951
the only correct answer

>>70576989
Lynch didn't start of making accessible stuff though

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>>70579964
>coop didn't fuck this because his actor was being cucked by donna's actress who wouldn't let him
>because of that we had to get the garbage that was annie and billy zane on a plane
the last episode would have had so much more impact if it was audrey instead of annie

>>70580081
>annie and billy zane on a plane
jesus fuck those last few episodes were patience-testing

>>70577290
How? They're nothing alike.

>>70580020
yeah, i just finished it up. my one tip is to not take everything written at face value

>>70580081
>Cooper, a fuckin FBI agent, having sex with an underage jailbait Audrey

c'mon, even Lynch recognizes that this was pretty fucked up

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>>70580219
will keep in mind

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kek make Shelly and Cole a thing again pls. :3

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yfw How to Destroy Angels will be preforming "Falling" in the revival.

Debussy

>>70577032
>>70577057
>It's a soap opera
It's a actually a really interesting deconstruction of the bland soap opera wave of tv shows and over the top americana culture that's part of it, a play on "whodunnit" and detective stories, critique on classic tv tropes, and it's all blended together in a confusing, insane lynchian mess complete with dream logic and everything.
It's fine to not like it, but it's undeniably one of the best tv shows ever made in terms of actual quality and artistic vision. Well maybe not the S2 finale since it was deliberately made as a cliffhanger in hopes of not having it cancelled, but other than that it's a legit masterpiece.
The only thing I've seen that's remotely close to that impressive was Horace and Pete.

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>>70576924
Akira Yamaoka

>>70577001
This. Swans started off as aggressive industrial and moved into cerebral drone rock, David Lynch started off doing experimental art school films and moved into 2deep4u longer mystery movies

>>70580960
>started off doing experimental art school films and moved into 2deep4u longer mystery movies

>what is Inland Empire
https://youtu.be/L3zi9OI5gUs?t=50s

either the obvious:
>>70576939

or:
>>70577147

>>70580252
it was gonna happen until kyle the cuck stopped it because lara flynn boyle would have given him blue balls if he didn't

>>70581425
i wish lara flynn boyle would give me blue balls desu

>>70581459
twin peaks era lara flynn boyle for sure
modern era lara flynn boyle? would rather bob rape me

>>70581504
obviously

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>>70581563
it's almost comical how poorly she aged, meanwhile shelly looks like this

>>70580627
This would be good.

>>70579488
You obviously never saw a soap opera.

>>70579210
Go back to circlejerking NGE.

>>70582951
aka
>"I don't know what anon is talking about but I want to have a strong opinion about something"

>>70579408
should i?

>>70581425
audrey was 18.
in fact, all the main high school-aged characters were meant to be college-aged, until the network made lynch lower their ages for some reason. t-b-h, a lot of storylines would've made more sense if they were a bit older as planned.

Scott Walker for sure!

Scott Walker probably.

Also I forgot /mu/ had such a big Twin Peaks fanbase.

>>70579645
>Major Briggs is dead
I cry a tear of sadness every day because of that

>>70577032
PNW
literally every girl is a 10
x-files' cousin
goat

seriously kysmm

>>70580508
>directs tv show
>put yourself in show
>write yourself in kissing top girl

fucking hell david

>>70580863
>maybe not the S2 finale
Really? That's widely considered one of the best episodes

>>70583171
I do know what you're talking about about but I think it still isn't much of a great show. Like I said, I do like most of his works but Twin Peaks was a meandering mess towards the end of the second half (and even stretching for time in the first). Congrats on having a checklist of typical Lynch tropes.

>>70584872
You're welcome to think whatever you want about Twin Peaks, but to claim it's merely a soap opera is simply incorrect, as that post demonstrated.

>>70581079
When did I say Inland Empire wasn't surreal/whatever you think it is? My post is implying that his early stuff was, like early Swans, more underground than their later stuff

>>70584557
Nah, it was dumb as hell. Lynch knew beforehand that they were going to cancel it so he deliberately made the finale as cliffhangery as possible in a desperate attempt to maybe persuade the producers into making a third season because the fans would want one, but obviously it didn't work. Lynch would never do something that shitty if it wasn't to save the show itself. He said multiple times that he was disgusted with himself that he made Dune, and how he was forced to do certain things by the producers

>>70584872
>mess
You mean like most of Lynch's films? You sure sound like you don't know what you're talking about there, anon. But I do agree that it's not as good in the last third or so. Still, give me another show with as much artistic merit as Twin Peaks, because you won't find much out there.

>typical Lynch tropes
wow haha I love /tv/ memes

Anyone wanna help me make a Twin Peaks-core chart? Some anon was going to a few days ago but he never delivered.

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>>70585174
So far..

>>70585065
>his early stuff
You said his early stuff was more experimental, and that's wrong.
Literally the only highly experimental thing he made early on was his debut, Eraserhead. Other than that there's Blue Velvet which is basically Twin Peaks 0.5, and then later on Wild at Heart which was just weird, not genius or anything.
He literally got more and more experimental as time went on, with Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and culminating with Inland Empire which is by his masterpiece. Not to mention his fucking shorts. Maybe actually watch his shit first before trying to talk about it.

>>70585105
>You sure sound like you don't know what you're talking about there.
Lynch writes and films twice as much material as needed, somewhere in the process the final product is cut in half which adds even more the surreality of his works and he gets hailed as an artist of celluloid. It didn't work with Dune, considering the source material, but the rest seems to play out that story. But it would be nice to see the "muh 4hour final cut" of Blue Velvet though.

>wow haha I love /tv/ memes
Funny because /tv/ waifuwanks the show like /a/ did/does NGE. "Tropes" have existed in use outside of there and supposedly there are things that he does that arbitrarily classify him as an "auteur". I have some feeling that he knows his core audience.

>>70584556
He knew exactly what he was doing. But it wasn't gratuitous. All lip, no tounge. Lynch did it right.

>>70579195
He probably directed a video for a new HTDA song for the new season.

>>70585259
You need the two albums Lynch released.
It's kind of a given.

>>70585301
>>70585105
Oh and before I forget. I know Eraserhead only had a few scenes cuts and I'm not entirely sure about the development of Elephant Man either. Let's not forget Barry Gifford's role in Wild at Heart and Lost Highway!

>>70585364
I haven't listened to those yet. Do they feel TP-esy?
And sure, I'll add them.

>>70585174
that field recording album of the owls. i forget its name.

>>70585301
Look up how Inland Empire was made.

>tropes
He actively mocks tropes in almost all of his films. I honestly can't understand how anyone can't see something so obvious, but then again you said TP was just another soap opera, so I dunno, heh.

>>70585379
What? How is screenwriting relevant, especially when you're talking about someone like Lynch?

>>70585259
Add the "Diane - Twin Peaks Tapes of Agent Cooper" cassette

>>70585393
Depending on who you ask, they're darker than Xiu Xiu Plays... but it's got a twisted playfulness that fits.

>>70576939
>>70576989
/thread

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It's trickier than I thought to come-up with albums that feel like the show.

>>70585576
Isn't there a 3rd soundtrack album? Should have Laura's face over the cover

>>70577032
I liked it at first but it dragged on way too fucking long and I never finished it

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>>70585576
pic related, especially the track 'surrender'

>>70585664
>>70585695
Added.

>>70582906
I agree with your post:
>>70580863
So, what's the problem exactly?
>It's actually a really interesting deconstruction of the bland soap opera wave of TV shows
>It's a soap opera
It's a soap opera, but it strives to deconstruct, distance itself from the genre as much as possible and push the genre forward. Let's not get carried away with semantics.

>>70585695
I haven't listened to that in years. Thanks for reminding me of it. Also, rest in peace Alan.

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>tfw /mu/ is having better discussion abiut Lynch than /tv/ does.
Goid thread, boys.

>>70585714
What are you talking about? That's like saying The Residents make nice pop music. The fact that it pushes genre boundaries and makes fun of tv tropes is enough to differ it from any regular soap opera, and it makes it inherently superior, even if it doesn't achieve perfection (which of course is practically impossible).

>>70585576
ODD SAC
bish bocsh

>>70576924
Brian Eno.

Unexpect
Sunn O)))
Scott Walker

>>70585807
>The fact that it pushes genre boundaries and makes fun of tv tropes is enough to differ it from any regular soap opera
And this is what I said. Apparently it didn't come out that way.

>>70582951
see

>>70583171

and think about it

>>70586293
You're stating something that someone already replied to me?

>>70585450
Mocking tropes isn't really as clever as you think it is.

>How is screenwriting relevant, especially when you're talking about someone like Lynch?
This may be a shitty argument, but, how is the script important for the movie?

>>70585259
the first max payne ost sounds like twin peaks music

>>70577032

I'm pretty tired of David Lynch hype, period. Guy is a hack.

>>70585297
You're not going to mention the shorts he made in college but you mention the shorts he made in the 2000s?

>>70586715
But those are like really short films.

>>70586635
>I'm pretty tired of David Lynch hype, period. Guy is a hack.
And Michael Bay is the real genius, but we just don't undersćanf him?

>>70586997
Understand*

>>70579951
I fucking love his musical scores.

Especially what he did with The Straight Story

>>70586997
>>70587012

Because everyone who thinks Lynch is a hack, likes Bay? Where exactly were you going with this comment?

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>>70585576

Add this one. At least it has a Fire Walk with Me cover

>>70586481
I never said he's a perfect genius or anything. Of course the simple act of poking fun at norms and tropes isn't mindblowing (not that it's as simple as that with his movies), It's more about the film as a whole, the process of creating it and what it's supposed to mean, or rather seeing the director's thought process and what he was going for.

Like I said before, look up how Inland Empire was put together. It's not about making a coherent narrative or striving for perfection or whatever. It's about the artistic creative process and all the different thoughts, ideas, feelings blending together into an experience.

That's why lynchfags who try to decipher his films like they're puzzles and call him an absolute genius have the wrong idea about him. Lynch is less about solid straight up symbolism and more about suggestion.

That's why I was saying the script isn't as important with someone like him. When he just takes his handheld camera, shoves it deep in Laura Dern's face and tells her to make confused faces in different places around town, and then splices it together with segments from short films he already made in the past, I think it's safe to say he didn't follow any script. In fact he said so himself iirc.

>>70586715
His early shorts are more like simple, interesting ideas that he decided to put on film, they're nowhere near as complex as his later ones. Not that they're any better or worse, they're all just as bizarre, but you did say that he didn't experiment as much lately, which is completely wrong.

>>70587215
How exactly is a man who's almost singlehandedly responsible for revolutionizing TV shows a hack? Not to mention his movies and film scores.

>>70587363
>How exactly is a man who's almost singlehandedly responsible for revolutionizing TV shows a hack?

Hyperbole doesn't help your case.

>>70587633
Are you going to present an argument?
>He's a hack
That's all you need, right? Great...

>>70587672
>That's all you need, right?

What it's so apparent, it's all I need.

>>70587754
How surprising... Please stop bumping this thread.

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>>70587298
>That's why lynchfags who try to decipher his films like they're puzzles and call him an absolute genius have the wrong idea about him. Lynch is less about solid straight up symbolism and more about suggestion.

I would suggest checking out Buñuel's movies and some of his documentaries (I know Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie Criterion has a few short ones) if you haven't already. Buñuel would just throw shit on the wall for absurdity's sake and laugh at the reviews and critiques trying to make a message out of it. I do think Lynch has some definite influence by Buñuel even if he does denies it, along with other simple analysis of his works. It is a bit fun to decipher art sometimes but that's about it, but sometimes you have to accept your farts stink up the room either way.

As much as I've said I was a fan of some of his works, I still haven't bothered to see Inland Empire actually. It feels like I've caught on some sort of act and chose not to continue the ride but I could also blame it on a new generation of people that didn't have to deal with having to pay David Lynch to access his website (with cool features like what the weather was like outside his window!) just to even pay 60 dollars for a copy of Eraserhead 2000 that are in the stage of Western life of treating him (and other unrelated works of arts and artists) like some dank patrician pokemon card, which says a lot more about me than him. I could go on about the guy but that would seem like a negative waste of transcendental inner energy or some shit and it's pretty late and I doubt this thread will be up by the time I do get up.

>>70588235
I did watch most of Bunuel's films, and while he's fun, I'm personally not a big fan of all the meta ironical artists like him. I like directors like Lynch, Malick, Bresson, Kiarostami, Apichatpong etc because they deal with relative sincerity even when pushing boundaries, and don't get too bogged down by abstract symbolism and ridiculous self-indulgence. Same reason why I hate directors like Jodorowsky and Von Trier. They rely too much on exactly that. With Lynch you can have fun and try to guess what all the specific objects are meant to represent in particular, but in the end it's all as simple as "spooky thing is supposed to create discomfort and confusion". He said it himself on multiple occasions that fans tend to overthink his films by a lot.

In any case, sure Lynch is eccentric as fuck, but I don't see how that should matter when enjoying his work. Even though they have similar themes or ideas, his films stand on their own even without all the meta stuff about deconstructing genres, his side art projects that inspired them and so on.

>>70588629
>>70588629
>his films stand on their own even without all the meta stuff about deconstructing genres

I'll give you that. He can be competent when it comes to film making. The Straight Story proves he can even make Disney movies if he wanted to.

>>70588741
>I'll give you that. He can be competent when it comes to film making. The Straight Story proves he can even make Disney movies if he wanted to.
Not the person you were replying too, but I think that proves his independence as a film director. And he's commented on the notion of directors being dominated by film companies in Mulholland Drive.

>>70577001
>>70580960

Good points. Also, Lynch and Gira are both curious combinations of extreme/weird qualities and a certain old worldness that could be described as traditional in some ways. And that kind of classic, spooky Western Gothic thing they both have.

Plus that mix of darkness and a kind of transcendental mysticism.