PITCHFORK 50 BEST IDM

>albums
>post tracks
you had one job OP...

>IDM

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>4. Beetles - Aphex Twin

Did they just put random Aphex Twin songs into a hat ?

>>70570701
Don't blame me. Thats how pitchfork listed them. Of course I laughed.

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>Flying Lotus in the sub-headline

>>70570714
The whole list was compiled by hitting shuffle on the media player.

>>70570761
Indeed. I like beetles, but it's not even IDM. Does anybody really have Beetles in their Top 10 Aphex Twin songs???

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>>70570675
>Textstar anywhere on this list
Damn I should make IDM

good list tbqh

better than the same ol shit /mu/ posts everyday
>>70570785
nothing is really "idm" if you wanna be like that

awful list, lp5 and four tet in the top ten yet no 00s ae at all. what is drexciya doing on here lol

>>70570832
are you implying Farben is bad or

>no Ryoji Ikeda
>no Alva Noto or Frank Bretschneider
>LFO - Frequencies isn't included
>Confield isn't included
>Kesto isn't included
>Clicks & Cuts vol.1 instead of vol.2
>Glam instead of Iaora Tahiti
>Atavism instead of Stdio
>no Farmers Manual - No Backup
>3 AFX albums

I was pleasantly surprised by their ambient list, but this one is ridiculous.

superior list

http://www.factmag.com/2014/09/22/the-100-greatest-idm-tracks-100-51/

>>70570881
>2014
better but already irrelevant when so much groundbreaking stuff have been released these 2 last years

>>70570939
>so much groundbreaking stuff have been released these 2 last years
like?

>>70570881
I remember this list. I thoroughly enjoyed this list.

>>70570939
Come on, man. It's only 2 years. I'd agree with you if the list was 10+ years old.

>>70570949
elseq 1, elseq 2, elseq 3, elseq 4, elseq5 the list goes on....

>>70570949
no Arca, nothing from this experimental Post-Grime/Bass scene (Lotic, Rabit, etc)

>""""""IDM"""""""

>>70571159
>Arca
>Lotic
>Rabit
those are trash lmao

>>70571169
fuck off turny

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>>70570878
>their ambient list
>Ambient 1 literally the first album

>>70571169
Come on, nigga

>>70571189
you're on the wrong side of history bb

>>70571237
na I'm perfectly aware that the current idem vanguard consists of trust-fund sjws making second-rate Autechre imitations and getting hype for their choice of aesthetics instead of their music

which sucks but then again idem hasn't been that good since maybe 2007 or so to begin with lol

IDM fans have to the best most psuedo fags ever. always the fags who couldn't handle musique concrete so they attach labels to music that isn't the same ol 4/4 dance club shit


this is IDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg3NrR7_jYk
not aphex making ambient techno

>>70571272
>>70571252
>le wrong generation
IDM is the new dadrock

>>70571272
wheres the dance in that this is just wankery

>>70571356
thats what IDM is you fucking poser

>>70571252
>second-rate Autechre imitations
>Sounds nothing like Autechre
Wow, it's almost like you're talking out of your own ass and your opinion should be completely disregarded

>>70571421
>denial
kk

>>70571421
how does this not screaming autechre?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY9ejw1728w
i swear this board doesn't know fuckall about music

>>70571159
>IDM in 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Y2LCTP-iM

What went wrong?

>>70571376
no its clearly not, idm is rooted in dance music and that is just an old guy hissing in a microphone

>>70571709
nope thats idm in its purest ideology
sorry you can only listen to pop music faggot

>>70571714
no its not you faggot, theres no resemblence of any genre from which idm comes from, as i said its just autistic wankery

>>70571806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqWbYVRUSG4&t=347s
try this it might be more pop friendly for you

>>70571814
thats still pretty autistic, listen to sound poetry instead you might seem cooler that way

>>70571841
whatever you say pleb enjoy your north face jackets n black coffee

I like their selected tracks from BoC desu, Amo Bishop Roden & Eagle In Your Mind sure are in my top 5 from them

>>70571159
No one would care about arca if he wasn't a bumboy

>>70571852
>doesnt even know what sound poetry is
found the poseur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7E2i0KMqM

>>70571893
>kurt schwitters
normie pls go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMMXrFI7140

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Is there a reason this comp is so hard to find?

The only link in the archive is an incomplete mediafire zip.

>no Beyonce
This is a Pitchfork list?

>>70570878
glitch isn't really IDM

>>70571957
it's not at all, you must be fucking retarded

>using the archive to look for music
oh wait

>>70571904
Log off

>>70571957
Soulseek
Streaming

The AI comp is so dated. I understand its influence but now it just sounds meh compared to almost everything else on the list

>>70570869
Farben is great I just personally think their music wouldn't bee too hard to replicate.

>>70571189
Nah this is wrong. That's the best music being made today.

>>70571252
Actually know Rabit personally, would be floored if he had a trust fund. He's broke af. Lotic isn't broke but he gets tons of commissions and plays shows constantly. Arca was broke for a long time even after he got big.

>>70571252
Also their music really doesn't sound like Autechre, especially not Rabit and Lotic, and even Arca composes his music in a very different way from Autechre even tho he sound designs in a similar way

You could practically fill the list with Autechre songs.
They are the pinnacle of computer music.

>>70572846
>falling for a pol b8
Rabit released solid stuff imho: I wish he get more success.

More respect to simon reynolds pls

>>70571189
yeah Sd Laika's where it's at

>>70572904
this post has to make me wonder how much electronic music you listen to. I love Autechre but no.

>>70572904
>you could fill an albums list with songs
Genius

>>70570728
That's just the accompanying playlist. Read further down.

>click this thread
>"jesus christ I'd bet 50 bucks AFX is #1"
>yep

>four tet
>drexciya
>Jon hopkins
>idm

Why do partners think anything that doesn't sound like Joel is IDM?

>no Ultravisitor
>Big Loada is on there
As always, Pitchfork are fucking retards.

Because OP is an idiot:

>50. Jason Forrest - The Unrelenting Songs Of The 1979 Post Disco Crash
>49. Kid606 - Down With The Scene
>48. Blectum From Blechdom - Haus De Snaus
>47. Mira Calix - One On One
>46. Isolée - Rest
>45. M:I:5 - Maßstab 1:5
>44. Arovane - Tides
>43. Bola - Soup
>42. The Black Dog - Spanners
>41. Anthony Manning - Islets In Pink Polypropylene
>40. Caribou - Start Breaking My Heart
>39. Leila - Like Weather
>38. Pan Sonic - Vakio
>37. Jon Hopkins - Immunity
>36. Plaid - Not For Threes
>35. Jlin - Dark Energy
>34. Pole - 1
>33. Burger/Ink - [Las Vegas]
>32. SND - Atavism
>31. Mouse On Mars - Glam
>30. Seefeel - Succour
>29. Carl Craig - More Songs About Food And Revolutionary Art
>28. Jim O’Rourke - I'm Happy, And I'm Singing, And A 1, 2, 3, 4
>27. µ-Ziq - Lunatic Harness
>26. Polygon Window - Surfing On Sine Waves
>25. Venetian Snares - Rossz Csillag Alatt Született
>24. Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
>23. Farben - Textstar
>22. Two Lone Swordsmen - Stay Down
>21. Various Artists - Clicks + Cuts
>20. Urban Tribe - The Collapse Of Modern Culture
>19. Matmos - A Chance To Cut Is A Chance To Cure
>18. Mouse On Mars - Autoditacker
>17. Clark - Body Riddle
>16. Autechre - Amber
>15. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher
>14. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
>13. Aphex Twin - ...I Care Because You Do
>12. Boards Of Canada - In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country
>11. Drexciya - Harnessed The Storm
>10. Various Artists - Artificial Intelligence
>9. Squarepusher - Big Loada
>8. Autechre - LP5
>7. Jan Jelinek - Loop-Finding-Jazz-Records
>6. Four Tet - Rounds
>5. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi
>4. Aphex Twin - Richard D. James Album
>3. Autechre - Tri Repetae
>2. Boards Of Canada - Music Has The Right To Children
>1. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92

>>70573903
this list just proves what a fuckin stupid term "idm" is

in that list you got: electro, detroit techno, ambient techno, downtempo, drill n' bass, hip-hop, glitch, footwork, breakcore, microhouse, minimal techno, dub techno, etc just loads of disparate genres thrown together. one of the vaguest fucking umbrella terms.

>>70574072
So much this.

>>70574072
I particularly love how the Top 10 is all Warp releases bar one.

Utterly stupid

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>>70573903
Ahhh...the list is still meh, though

Geogaddi deserved to be number 1.

>>70572069
They included Matmos, SND, Pan Sonic, Jan Jelinek / Farben, Jim O'Rourke and Clicks + Cuts though.

>>70574154
>>70574072
Because IDM in the strictest sense is basically synonymous with Warp.

If Boards of Canada is IDM then does that make Moby and Tycho IDM too?

Shit list. Who the fuck is Simon Reynolds?

>>70575379
>Who the fuck is Simon Reynolds?
nice b8

Seeing the reactions to pitchfork lists on Mu is almost becoming more predictable than the actual lists.

>>70575379
Sorry, I thought pitchfork makes shit lists when its filled with obvious stuff? Now its shit if it has something we've never heard of before? Please let me know-- I want to have an opinion on this before they publish the next list so I don't look out of place.

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>>70573903
>The Black Dog, the band that arguably "invented" IDM
>Holds a single spot at 42

>>70573903
>Autechre
>3. Tri Repetae
>8. LP5
>16. Amber
Amber isn't even IDM. Fucking Tri Repetae as the third best album of all time but no Confield anywhere? Ridiculous

Also Los Angeles isn't even close to fucking IDM. Los Angeles is just weird instrumental hip-hop. This whole list reads like they went to the IDM charts on Rateyourmusic to figure out how they were going to rank them

>>70575351
>>70575295
BoC, Amber and SAW 85-92 are ambient techno. Idk why everyone calls them all IDM it's never made any sense to me. Broadcast and Battles are on Warp and that doesn't automatically make them IDM

Since IDM is an extremely broad term.
>No Ryuichi Sakamoto
>No Francois Bayle
>No Manuel Gottsching
>No Kid Baltan
Further proving that the only good Pitchfork list was the one where they describe shitty album covers.

>>70575465
seriously who the fuck is this faggot and why should i care about his opinion

Why does everyone in this thread sound like they're children fighting about toys?

>>70570833
If RDJ doesn't wanna be called IDM he should come up with a better genre label then fucking Braindance

Amazed at a complete lack of Luke Vibert whatsoever.

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>>70575919
>30 HELENS AGREE

>>70575919
>Luke Vibert
Why would you be "amazed" at that?

The "OMG IM SO SURPRISED WHERE IS ______" bullshit with these lists needs to fucking STOP.

Just fucking stop it. Its pitchfork. Any surprise at these lists just shows how little you know about pitchfork, not how little they know about music.

>>70573903
>12. Boards Of Canada - In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country

that's a four song EP by the way

>>70576032
>getting this upset

>>70576061
Just fuckig STOP

At least it's not a list of /bleep/ EDM shit. Like let's be real, that would be the ultimate sellout move.

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>>70575866

>>70576078
I suggest you go have a lie down.

>>70576109
I suggest you go get som TASTE to wash down your BULLSHIT with

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>>70576120

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>>70573903
>Venetian Snares – Rossz Csillag Alatt Született


Isn't this Breakcore tho ? Labels are the worst

>>70572165
The AO comp is phenomenal in therms of early techno. It's only dated if all you care for is glitchy memetronica like breakcore and later period Autechre.

>>70572846
>>70572968
Rabit is the most full-blown SJW in the whole scene right now, fuck him.

>>70576285
Breakcore is a subgenre of IDM

>>70576285
RYM calls breakcore IDM, /mu/ actually takes that site seriously loooool

>>70576366
No it isn't you prick.

>>70576353
>letting political opinions influence your musical taste
:ironic smug alt-frog:

lol at them putting my man carl craig on the list like what the hell? same with drexciya..."idm" wew

>>70576336
early autechre and late autechre are both gr8 m8, i dunno how they do it but they can somehow pull off the indulgent stuff unlike some of their peers. but yeah the first ai comp is mint

breakcore is and has always been a big pile of dog cum

>>70576366
idm isnt a genre

>>70576423
>wanting your music free from cringy political trends is alt-right
Fuck off.

good list

>>70576446
Simon Reynolds has lost it loooooooooooool

I honestly don't get the love for BoC. I can sort of understand the affinity people have for the analogue, frayed, nostalgic sound, but the drums just kill it for me. I enjoy simple rhythms, whether it be techno or hip-hop, but something about their drum arrangements feels so cheesy to me - almost stock sound-y.

>>70577550
geogaddi, mhtrtc snf sll of their early stuff has absolutely stunning drumwork but everything after that sounds like it was made on a DAW

>>70575252
I know. It's dumb.

>>70577550
I used to think the same thing but it grows on you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbFgxucxVcM

>>70571464
that sounds absolutely fucking nothing like Autechre
the Arca = gay Autechre meme was already retarded enough, so I hope you don't actually hold an opinion that manages to be even more stupid

>>70571464
I thought I was the only one who thought a lot of PC stuff sounds like autechre.

Its like autechre with more upbeat/brighter identity.

>>70577550
BoC beats are straight hip-hop

You're contradicting yourself

>>70579614
wew lad

>>70579959
I'm glad I've wooed you, anon ;^)

>>70573903
Called the Top 6 by the way

>>70570675
So many things wrong here

>Melve
Autechre is my favorite band(?) ever, but why would they pick what may be the weakest track from LP5?

>Beetles
Over 4, Girl/Boy Song and Fingerbib? What?

>An Eagle In Your Mind
There are quite a few better tracks on MHTRTC, namely Happy Cycling, Pete Standing Alone and Roygbiv

Also, some tracks that are really missing

>Sublimit
>Cipater
>Pro Radii
>Pete Standing Alone
>Beep Street
>Mt Saint Michel/Saint Michaels Mount
>Something off of Huge Chrome Cylinder Box Unfolding
>Something from Tango N' Vectiff

Good job being shit as usual, Pitchfork

>>70577018
lmao seriously what universe is this. i was totally blindsided by how much praise he was laying on the actual music here. like, he used to looooove to (rightfully) shit on squarepusher/breakcore/drill'n bass in the 90s, lmao

i remember reading on his blog years ago that he had recently had a bit of a change of heart wrt to autechre, but still, i didn't expect him to write the forward for an idm article of all fucking things.....

>>70580254
he didn't shit in breakcore/dill and bass, he just thought of it as ingenuine compared to actual jungle

he still liked stuff like hangable autobulb and luke vibert's plug material

>>70580299
>in
*on

>>70580299
yeah, that's true. also, i like reynolds loads - don't get me wrong - but i always thought it was a bit funny that he criticised those artists for being inauthentic when he didn't even grow up in clubs and started out as a rock critic. i don't believe that this necessarily undermines his views, but it is a little "lol" that he became some champion of jungle/ "real" club music (i say this as someone who detests breakcore)

>>70573903
>no flashcore
disgusting

I hate when Pitchfork gets these nu-male hipster nobodies to create "objective" lists on musical styles they don't actually know anything about.

>>70580671
simon reynolds predates hipsters and nu-males

>literally no Datach'i

>like 40% aphex/boards

k

lol

>>70577550
Agreed. Geogaddi avoids this problem but MHTRTC has always felt wayyyyy too simple for me. It's pretty music but there's nothing challenging, nothing to separate it from all other boring ass basic downtempo music. I kinda hate downtempo most of the time tho so I'm biased

>>70580705
literally who

>>70580829
t. nu-male
read a book

>>70576794
Electronic music has always been and will always be reflective of the political climate. And young people have always been leftist, it isn't some new trend. College students were at the forefront of civil rights, roe v wade, anti-Iraq war, environmental causes. It's just that you're living in this day and age and didn't pay as much attention to politics until you started using the Internet more so you think leftism/being an "SJW" is some new thing that musicians are jumping on. But in reality the vast majority of popular musicians and young people in the last 50 years have held left wing views.

>>70580901
isn't idm supposed to be apolitical as an opposition to dumb rave music which tends to be political

like isn't that the point of idm to begin with

Ppl in this thread can name more music critics than IDM artists. I can't relate!

>>70580829
He made the only good history book on electronic and rave music which granted is far from perfect but everyone else is too lazy/retarded to write something better.

>>70580901

left wings views from 50 years ago are not the same as they are today though

>>70573903
>46. Isolée - Rest
>45. M:I:5 - Maßstab 1:5
>37. Jon Hopkins - Immunity
>35. Jlin - Dark Energy
>33. Burger/Ink - [Las Vegas]
>29. Carl Craig - More Songs About Food And Revolutionary Art
>11. Drexciya - Harnessed The Storm
Huh? Who knew that microhouse, minimal techno, footwork, and electro are actually IDM? Considering how much actual IDM they are missing, why would you put more stuff that belongs into EDM?

>>70581072

idm is edm

>>70580933
the first post-modern protest song came from "idm" tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFmZ0gZNZI

>>70581125
In a way yeah for sure, but the above mentioned genres are part of EDM but not IDM.

>>70580821
It's not supposed to be challenging at all

>>70581066
Yeah and the alt right didn't exist 50 years ago either

>>70581223
I suppose that was the wrong way to put it. I find it boring, basic, and lacking in detail.

>>70581066
They sorta are though - listen to Phil Ochs, for instance. It's the Liberals who are promoting overly reductive and non-intersectional IDPol. Most leftists still stick to 19th and 20th century ideals and economic theories, but ofc they're updated.

Liberals =/= Leftists

>>70581297
This. Left wing/democrats tend to be more socially and culturally liberal meanwhile right wing/republicans tend to be more economically liberal.

>>70573903
>Squarepusher - Big Loada

Wait, isn't this an EP ? I know the US release has a couple of tracks added, but does it turn into an album because of the new tracks ? I thought it would still be considered an EP since that is the original format

>>70581461
Dems are complete neolibs, though. That's why lefties don't like to associate with them.

>>70581273
Like >>70579743 said, their beats are generally pure hip-hop, and that fits pretty well with their music

If you want wanking drums then listen to Autechre instead

>>70581714
Autechre's drums aren't wanky, lad. Generally they're in simple 4/4 and based on traditional electro and hip-hop rhythmic schemes. They're just syncopated as fuck and have more "swing" to them.

>>70581072
>microhouse, minimal techno, footwork, and electro
>EDM
"EDM" and dance music are two very different things. Don't get them conflated.

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>>70570675
i don't listen to IDM much, or really any electronic music, but i will always jump on the opportunity to call pitchfork and anything they spawn shit
therefore, i declare this list to be shit

>>70576102

kek

>>70581826
wrong

>>70581980
"EDM" is a marketing term that mostly describes brostep, "trap," and big-room progressive house that is most commonly associated with venues like Tomorrowland or the Electric Daisy Carnival.

This leaves out a good 30 - 40 years of dance music history in the realm of house, techno, breakbeat, jungle, garage, grime, dubstep (English Croydon dubstep, not American brostep), or juke/footwork.

>>70577550
>almost stock sound-y.
that's because it is stock sounds...