/gg/u Gitaru and Bassu Generalu

>slash
When will you guys use actually good guitarists for these threads?

the only good bassist is a bassist who listens

I think we should put Ben Eller's This is Why You Suck at Guitar videos in the OP. They have been a big help. I would highly recommend them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqwpdddKBpQ&list=PLetEpa_0rdYDSO9rll4ymDoAFT-qnrOnW&index=1

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I never liked Slash desu

>>70533018
Never.

>>70532954
here the counterpoint in the first part is slowed down and clean. the second part also has counterpoint
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1hzkT3ltrgz

same exact notes are being played. first an oblique contrapuntal motion, then a similar contrapuntal motion, then another oblique, then a contrary into a power chord. i'm not downloading sheet music software to show you it if you can't hear it now
>>70532979
you listen to it too if you don't believe me

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Anyone here ever own a Marathon bass? Are they worth buying?

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i will ask once again here then:

im tired of recording guitar parts when needed out of electric bass
what cheap used guitar for DI recordings do you recommend? ~150$

>>70532505
I still want freedom in the bands songwriting though, as opposed to just filling in the low frequencies. I guess what I'm asking is when i should "embellish", and when i should stay out of the way in a song.

>>70533075
I bought that cheap of a guitar once. It was a mistake. Pay a bit more and buy used. You can get a good $800 guitar used for like $400.

>>70533084
>and when i should stay out of the way

Always. Why do you think bassists always get shoved into the back corner of the stage?

>>70533106
Rude.

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Here's a guitar Jam session I put up last night. Any advice?

https://soundcloud.com/goldsbrosesh

>>70533106
Just listen to some Iron Maiden and tell me that the bassist has no business having a little fun every now and then.

>>70533084
I'm not trying to be an ass here but unless you started the band and you established that you want to be a primary creative force within it, you should not try to impose your own "sound"
unless the band you're playing with is a group of friends you're a part of that is totally okay with you doing that

>>70533084
Just listen to the song as a whole, not only your bassline, and ask yourself whether you're actually improving it.
Guitarists are always massively annoying with their shitty solos and awful distortion that buries everything in a tidal wave of awful overdrive.

>>70533021
and who keeps it on the one

>>70533154
Steve plays some of the most serviceable fills in all rock music

>>70533104
i wont play it regularly as bass is my main instrument and i dont have money for guitar amp
i really dont mind if it causes pain after 30 minutes of playing. was wondering if there are some guitars that are "better" for DI recordings or some more versatile ones than others

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>djent
>metal
>extra strings
>dropped tunings
>active pickups
>peavey 6505
>fuzz
>drone
>djent
>copypasta
>memes
>o i am laffin

will gg ever be good again

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I've been with my Squire P-Bass for five or so years now because I got her for $35 used with a stand, and she's been great honestly considering I'm mainly a guitar player and she's more a side thing to add girth to my songs, but I've noticed she is a little fat sounding, which year I know a bass should be, but I'm starting to consider another bass that will allow me the freedom to adjust between fat and large. What are some good basses for someone going between dark funeral/enslaved/peste noire and martha wainwright/jesse sykes/neko case styles? I want to look at something I could find used between $200-$400

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bought this last night
does anyone have any experience with them?
mainly bought it because it looks pretty fucking cool

>>70533387
how are you meant to intonate this?

>>70533104
This.
You can't expect to buy $1000, or even $500 dollar tone with $150 dollars, unless you're very lucky. In the world of music, you get what you pay for.
But then again, this isn't saying that you shouldn't keep an eye out for good deals on used instruments. They do pop up occasionally.
So my three tips for you on getting a good guitar are save some money, keep an eye out for nice used pieces, and do your homework on said used pieces to see what they're really worth.

P.S. if you do find a good used guitar for your price range, don't forget to try to negotiate a bit. Haggling doesn't always work, but it's worth a try.

>>70533404
I don't really know

>>70533352
mate
it was never good

>>70533404
>>70533413
by pre-bending you faggots

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>>70533386
>freedom to adjust between fat and large
>going between dark funeral/enslaved/peste noire and martha wainwright/jesse sykes/neko case styles

>>70533386
>I'm starting to consider another bass that will allow me the freedom to adjust between fat and large

What did he mean by this?

I wish /gg/ was as slow as /3/

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Picked this 8 string beauty up a couple weeks ago for my birthday, and i must say, i've had quite a bit of fun with it. Then again, I'm the type of guy to buy a 6 string bass as well. What can i say, i like versatility.

>inb4 djentard
I see the extra strings as more of an extension of range and scales than "muh detuned palm mutes." Call it djent if you want, but i see what i play as a more progressive metal style.

bar chords are mainly hand strength, right? I can make the full F shape sound good up the fretboard, but I can only hold it for a short while

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>>70533368
>>70533554
>only 8 strings

>>70533459
The only way I can think to describe the large sound is larke a large bass sound that doesn't wub when you change notes. Like having large bass sections that are smooth between notes.

>>70533554
>Call it djent if you want, but i see what i play as a more progressive metal style.
tell me more about what differentiates your syncopated-chugging-over-straight-4/4-rock-beat from all the rest

ok /gg/ you broke me, i took away everything i liked about the original, no more intervals, everything's broken up into a single melody now. the only time more than 1 note plays at once is in a power chord, and i took away as much of the gain as i could
https://clyp.it/cqtucezm

now, what do you think of the riff

>>70533571
hand strength, dexterity, action height, string tension, etc

easier to play a barre chord on a guitar with a low action and 8s than one with a high action and 13s, yadig

>>70533305
It's not about it causing pain it's just about it being poorly made.

>>70533386
any bass with a P/J combo will suffice; if you can get one with an on board EQ that'd be even better too.

>>70533625
>https://clyp.it/cqtucezm
you really need to work on your timing

>>70533625
it's quite gauche

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>give strat a setup for the 1st time
>it plays exactly like i want it to
this feel... i never want it to end

>>70533625
You kinda screwed up some of the notes. Practice it some more.

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>>70533571
Its also technique. Use your entire arm to "pull down" on the chord instead of only applying lateral pressure.

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>>70533656
Good work m80

>>70533604
If you really must know, I've been working on a little something which never plays the bottom string open, and has some 9/4 timing in it at points. That was the only thing which really worked for the melody i had in my head. Haven't recorded anything yet, or else id share and let you judge how shit it may or may not be.

>>70533659
>>70533650
that's because i've never played it this way before. i took me about 3 weeks to perfect the way i used to play it

>>70533647

is the j referring to the bridge pickup?

>>70533027
I don't like that guy.

>>70533766
Why not? His videos are good.

>>70533804
not him and i somewhat enjoyed his video but he tried way too hard to be "funny"
it was also about 4 minutes too long

>>70533736
if your timing is good you should be able to keep your notes even and on beat no matter the song

not saying its bad but if you want to tighten up and sound good you need to start practicing with a metronome

>>70533804
I just don't like his face and his personality.

Same with that Music Is Win guy and Andrew Wasson.

>>70533736
>perfect
Let's not get carried away lad

>>70533837
this

insukting people to be funny was only funny in 2003

>>70533837
Yeah he does but a lot of his videos do a really good job at teaching technique. You should watch some of his other videos.

I like Dave the surly Canadian a lot

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I'm thinking about putting together a Fender Jazzmaster.
I thought about combining a Jazzmaster Classic Player body with a blacktop neck. Would it be a bad idea to use a blacktop neck instead of the Classic Player neck? Would it feel very different in any way?

Alright so a few threads ago I posted an imgur link visualizing my problem about which pickguard I should put on my MIM Fender P-Bass to look like Jamerson's bass. An anon said I'd need a 3-tone sunburst (mine is 2-tone) and a Spitfire Tort Guard, which he's not wrong but I'm not about to pay USD 200 plus for it. Initially I was going to buy from The Stratosphere because their guards are 10 dollars, but after doing some research, people are saying don't get it. According to some reports, The Strat prints a computer generated vinyl layer and puts it over a stock white guard. I thought that's what all the pickguards do?

>>70533740
Yes, the bridge pickup

>>70534310

Thanks, I've honestly never thought about bass pickups much

>>70534282
Buy an official fender (not squier) tortoise pickguard, they're still made of celluloud iirc

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New Reverend Guitars look cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZETxP_G3k

>>70533084
It depends a lot on the kind of band though. If you're doing indie rock or something, yeah, you should probably keep it simple and stay out of the way. On the other hand, in a genre such as prog you'd have a lot more freedom to experiment. Personally I'd love to be in a group with a creative, melodic bassist with a Chris Squire/John Entwistle style, as long as they also know how to hold back when needed.

>>70533386
Ibanez SR500. Two active pickups so you can dial in just about any sound you can think of.

>>70534391
>le morph a bunch of classic models company
no thanks

>>70533387
lol. I went over to my instructors house and he had the same guitar with one pickup and he said it's straight Korean junk he found in an old house and spruced it up.

>>70534540
I've read that the single pickup version is really shit, holding out hope that it's good
also it's MIJ not korea

>>70534254
If the neck feels good it is good just try it

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Does anyone else here hate learning songs?

I've been playing for a while and im decent; id say intermediate-ish. I understand chord progressions, scales/modes, have decent rhythm, can play syncopated stuff, etc.

However, i rarely learn songs. When i was a teenager id learn riffs or solos of songs i really liked but almost never a full song. In college i would learn chord progressions and play along to a few songs.

I feel like no learning more songs might be holding me back. IDK if its cus im kinda depress or something but i feel no excitement/patience on learning other peoples songs.

Also curious if theres anyone here who doesnt do covers but does write they're own music?

Pic related. Ive read interviews where john says he spends all of his time learning songs and its something hes always done. I cant seem to get that excited about music anymore like i did when i was a teenager.

>>70533170
This

>>70534391
>>70534391
Looks kinda like a Wolfgang. Love me that Unknown Henson signature telle too.

>>70534833
I only learn jazz standards to improv over them.
Learning rock songs seems like a waste to be honest, at most I learn a solo that catches my attemption or a riff but that's it.

>>70534833
I've been playing bass for over a decade and probably only learned a handful of full songs. It can be really tedious (and not a good use of practice time) to learn all the little licks and embellishments. But I still think learning parts of songs you like is important, because it helps expand your playing vocabulary

>>70534936
Thats what ive been doing now, learning structures of songs and playing over them.

>>70535000
>It can be really tedious (and not a good use of practice time) to learn all the little licks and embellishments

Good to know im not the only one. I agree, i find all the different little fills/embellishments tedious to learn; especially when you keep in mind the bassist that recorded it just kinda playing loosely over the chord progressions.

I do think it helps make you better. At the same time, i also wonder if its a good use of practice time like you mention. Sometimes i feel like im using it as an excuse not to learn songs and get better. Really, the more songs you learn the easier it should get to learn new ones.

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as time goes on, I think companies label guitars "beginner guitars" to increase price on "pro" versions even though the "beginner" versions still perform perfectly fine. except sub $200 new guitars those seem pretty consistently to be made of garbage and sound cheap

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HNNNNGGG

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>tfw no SS

>>70535192
Hagstrom makes really good looking guitars, I want a Viking myself.

>download zips from the op
>all jpgs
wtf

How to get a dream/jangle pop tome?

>>70535488
1. secretly masturbate to gay porn
2. ???
3. become trans prostitute

>>70535166
could you name a few examples? it's possible they are doing that, but i can't recall any brands doing that

>>70535488
damn, *tone

>>70535515
let me guess, you listen to metal exclusively? you must be a really tough guy

>>70535621
one in pic is a yamaha revstar. The biggest difference in each model is the pickups... which have some pretty harsh diminishing returns compared to a nicer amp/head and what pedals it is being run though.

The "Antares" guitars from the 80's 90's were considered beginner guitars... but sound just as good as the more intermediate fender models of the same era imo.

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I'm in love with a piece of wood

>>70535630
>metal exclusively
only metal band i ever liked was mastodon

im just not a closet fairy. at least be honest with yourself

>>70535765
You're an insecure dickhead.
I'm not the one calling people guy because of their musical tastes. One of us in the asshole here, and I'm preetty sure its not me.

>>70535809
>calling people guy because of their musical tastes. One of us in the asshole here

holy shit 10/10

>>70535192
>>70535364
I went and looks at a 1974 Hagstrom Swede on craigslist
It sounded like complete shit

>>70535827
yeah yeah, I meant gay, sue me

my point still stands

>>70535854
wow thanks! no i can disregard the whole brand based on your one experience

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>>70533554
I miss my RG8-WH. Shouldnt have sold it but at least they arent too hard to find, unlike the red S8-QM I want to match this s7.

I may just go with an agile 8 instead.

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>>70535930
Why stop at 8? If you're going to meme you should meme all the way. They have a nice 10 string on sale right now.

>>70535955
>10 string

If I want to do some fucking champs covers maybe.

>>70536055
>champs cover
how about this instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLHR8zaEsA8

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>>70535758
i wish i bought my guitar in daphne blue...

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>http://www.strawpoll.me/12174827
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12174827
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12174827

What's your favorite shitstick brand, /gg/? Let's settle this once and for all.

>>70536380
>buying a new fender

I'm sure the mass offset buyer's remorse is already setting in and saturating the used market (although desu I love the new PJ Mustang bass).

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very nice

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>>70535955
Way ahead of you

>>70533352
>implying this isn't copypasta
>also drop d >>>>>>>>>> all other dropped tunings

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>>70537292

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>>70536602
nothing like a good fender guitar

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>>70536380
Same

>>70536665
That's what I'm waiting on

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>>70538092
is that yours? i just found out about the new duo sonics havent had a chance to play one yet

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Im going to buy a Charvel tele when they are released

Do you anchor your pinky finger when fingerpicking?

>>70538383
>charvel
>tele
>not neon supper strat

I'm not impressed

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>>70530076

Made a little tune with them chords(played Dmaj7 instead of D7 though) as well as added a little ?bridge?.
Turned out pretty cool I think, sort of a chill upbeat jazzy feel. Second song I've made and I find that making these little pieces really help me get out of that "lost" state where you have no idea what to do/learn next.

Also, thanks to the anons who gave me advice a few days ago on music production and all that good stuff, It's amazing how much double tracking can do.

https://clyp.it/bem03fs4

>>70538417
No body gives a fuck about your life.

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>tfw people on Facebook are talking about who's the best guitarist in your town and you don't make the list

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>>70536380
fuck that surf shit

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>>70538761
>on facebook
>t. normie shitstain

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>>70538168
No Im waiting for The Offset prices to go down after tax season, I played it at a shop and it was great. I'm gunna mod out the HS for a JB humbucker and a lace Sensor i can't wait

>>70538761
>caring what a idiots post about on facebook
>having a facebook in the first place

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>>70538832
Boring.

>>70538916
is it light weight?

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>>70538832
omg would look perfect with a matching black headstock
i need this now

>>70538949
Very, I was surprised. I bet they used a lighter coat of polyurethane paint and the neck had good balance. To add, the necks are sweet since it's got a satin back because they stopped that glossy neck bullshit

>>70538964
Put a black pickguard on it too

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>>70539018

>>70536665
>buyer's remorse
sorry, but i'm not you

>>70538092
it's just the perfect colour imo

>>70538832
fuck you, i like it

>>70538940
seafoam green would be the next choice, that looks tasty as fuck

>>70539038
Pickups, fretboard, knobs, plenty more black.

>>70537292
do you have big hands or something this looks uncomfortable

Any tips on learning to figure out chord progressions by ear?

Everytime i do this with my instrument in hand i cant match the chords because the root and the V sound alike to me when played in harmony

>>70539244
you know what they say about big hands?
[spoiler] big gloves [/spoiler]

>>70539244
Big enough that I can play it but not big enough to completely wrap my hand around the neck.

>>70539244
>>70539358
Im pretty sure you play those differently than a normal guitar no?
Dont you keep your hand sort of straight, kinda like when youre barring? I cant imagine trying to wrap my hand around that

Is there anyway to create a reverse-reverb sound with chaining of different pedals as opposed to a single pedal with a reverse setting?
>pedals

>>70539438
No, you still curl your fingers. Believe me, there's plenty of room for your thumb to find a comfortable position on the back of that neck.

my chorus is kind of an awkward length, it can either be 14 or 28 seconds, but then if i make it 28 i feel like the double chorus would be really long.. which should i do?

FUCK HARMONICS

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>>70539834
forgot image

How do I mute strings while playing finger style?

>>70539765
Add a second part to the chorus, like a resolution

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after being here for a few days I can safely say this is easily one of the worse generals on 4chan. terrible in every way. I'm out

>>70540071
good, no one will miss you

>>70540071
kek, you haven't been to spee or vg have you?

>>70540071
see you tommorrow faggot

>>70540119
google +1'd

>>70533084
Depends on the song.

You like Thundercat? He does cool stuff with his bass. Maybe check out his solo stuff?

Bass is cool but you gotta find a proper place for things.

>>70539834
They're not very hard at all, desu

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>>70540071
There aren't any actual lifer players in this general, just frustrated bedroom hobbyists.
The sooner you realize this and leave the better off you'll be, this is what all the real players with any sense who made the mistake of coming here do anyway.
Good luck.

>>70533671
holy fuck this general gets worse every day
>>70533571
learn classical posture

>>70533368
Where is Schecter making its guitars now a days? Is no one doing Nippon anymore besides Ibanez?

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>>70533554
The thing with ERGs is that few people are actually able to do anything with the extra strings besides chug/djent. Nothing wrong with that, just wish people would own up to it.

My buddy has the black version of your guitar. It's alright. I can't handle 8 strings though. Fuck that neck. 7 is my max.

>>70539834
>>70539905
What's wrong with harmonics, Anon? They're not that hard.

>>70540679
the hobby/industry is dying m8
japan is guitar crazy but even they can see the writing on the wall at this point

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>>70539834
>>70540375
>>70540811
I take it back I love harmonics now. I just realized I'm a fucking idiot and was making it way harder than it actually was.

>>70540844
Do you have a floyd? You can get into real fun harmonic wankery with that.

>>70540886
No, I'm just using a regular Epi G400. I plan on getting one for it in the future though.

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>>70537292
I wanna see you play it
Got a youtube or something?

>>70540841
Yeah, seems like they are really focusing on their premium line now, which is made in...Indonesia? Even changed the font to the same as that used for their prestige line.

I guess guitar has to die out eventually. Had a good run though. In the US at least, we have entire stores devoted to them.

>>70540844
tfw cant do pinch harmonics to save my life

>>70541050
I wish there was a good pinch harmonics for retards book

I'd buy it

>>70541151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjrKUwWenBg&list=PLetEpa_0rdYDSO9rll4ymDoAFT-qnrOnW&index=6

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i just got a $3 donation on paypal from a guy. message: " i really like your riffs"

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>>70541614

>>70541486
This guy appeals to me, thanks

>>70541640
does this mean i'm a professional musician now?

>>70541778
no its most likely some old gay guy

>>70541785
What the? I'm not even that old.

>>70537292
you keep posting this shit and I keep asking for a clyp and you never deliver

>>70541799
kek

>>70541799
definitely stupid though

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>>70541808
you should keep asking

>>70535488
Bridge pickup on a single coil fender -> clean fender amp + reverb and chorus to taste

>>70541808
cuz they aren't actually his

>>70536316
What kind of guitar is that?

>>70541844
either post a clyp you or stop posting you ni/gg/er

>>70541860
>cuz he can't actually play

ftfy

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>>70541844
Anon you're my favorite poster

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>>70541924
make me

i want a black seven string geet with cream binding and a hipshot bridge for mathcore. what do i buy?

>>70541785
nah his name was samir. and i dont have anything but music on there so why would him being gay have anything to do with it

>>70542036
A black seven string with cream binding and a hipshot bridge

>>70542032
pretty much what this guy said>>70541935
you can't play is why you don't post clyps. I don't even care I just want to hear someone play some badass music on a 10 string but it looks like it won't be you, sad!

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So is this an actual hidden gem or a cheap shitty meme pedal?

>>70542050
>samir

ah so he's just a brown gay guy?

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>>70542087
k

>>70542089
It does everything I want a delay pedal to do

>>70542109
ur gay

>everyone posts gear and never a clyp
>when the memerange guy posts his its a bad thing

sometimes you guys are very silly

>>70542074
i was just wondering if anyone knew a specific model my dude

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>>70542106
he's not gay, stop bullying my patron

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>>70542138

>>70537292
>>70541844
What's the point of even owning these meme machines if you're too shitty of a player to show off in /gg/?

>>70542163
there is no need to be gay

>>70542236
>>70542236
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>>70542236
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>>70542136
>digital effects

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>>70542245
how do you explain yourself then

>>70541778
By definition yes

Congrats on achieving the dream anon

>>70542036
>>70542152
Drop the binding and get a used Ibanez RG7621. Best bang for your buck by a mile.

>>70542342
dang, i like the aesthetic of binding but ill check it for sure

>>70542308
i feel a bit stupid for how happy i am right now. i mean it's $3 but i can't help it

>>70542236
>show off in /gg/
for what purpose?

>>70542283
wow liek omg how did i no u would jsut flip it around on me liek that u r so smrt nd clevar nd i bet u work at wendy's nd u hve a 9 nch dick and mke 100k a year

retard

>>70542392
don't be m8, it means someone appreciates you're work

>>70542427
>cringe: the post

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What does /gg/ think of Tremonti?
his first band is one of the most hated in rock history, but since then he seems to gotten a lot of respect.

>>70542453
never heard of her

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>>70542427
>u would jsut flip it around on me liek that
like your boyfriend did last night?

what does /mu/ think about bassists who use picks?

>>70542453
Without him we wouldnt have the florida marlins song

>>70542568
>what does /mu/ think about bassists
>>/trash/

>>70533656
>decide to try and fix my strat cutting out randomly
>resolder some frayed wires and put it back together with parts from my other strat.
>there's now no sound at all

end my suffering I'm down to 2 guitars from 5 :c

>>70542453
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_j7nVCJJ0

He plays/writes a lot of cheesy parts but now and then he strikes gold

>>70542568
I know some people are snobby about it but I've never had a problem with it. It's another style and sometimes it's useful if you want different toanz.

>>70542568
Fuck what other people say, if it's more comfortable to use, use it.

But I think you miss a lot not using your fingers t b q h

>>70542568
It's just another way to make a sound, no big deal at all.
It gives it more treble, more attack, and more aggression. If that's what you're after then do it.

i hate living in fucking south america, 90% of the guitar stores are metal stores, and the jazmasters and jaguars are overpriced as shit and no one imports the other ibanez models.
and ordering a guitar from the states is expensive as shit due to the fucking corrupt government

>>70541844
Oh hey, someone saved one of my pics. Hi.

>>70542568
It pisses off autists so I approve

>>70542808
What if I sent you one with the neck taken off and declare it as a broken guitar?

>>70542870
i would appreace it anon
i just want an ibanez jet king :(

>>70539965
thumb + palm

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>>70542388
Ibanez arz 307, if you dont mind the tune o matic style bridge. Should be able to score one for less than a rg7621.

>>70542808
man I can relate, good thing there's people who import and then sell their stuff when they don't want it here in Chile

>>70542568
I used one when i started, but havent in years. Just dont like the pick clack. Find I can get better sound and a greater variety.

Its like a crutch, you can walk with it sufe, but gotta drop it to run.

>>70543055
What makes it worse to use a pick for bass than guitar?

>>70543082
The percussive click cluck is hard to mask. Isnt as bad on guitar unless the dude plays way too hard, like shatterimg picks and breaking strings hard, ie 99% of /gg/.

>>70543004
its not like that in Peru, if you check ebay and those websites they are filled with metal guitars and gibsons.
and selling shit here is a hassle because most of the buyers are cheap fucks, i remember selling a new distortion pedal that i used like 5 times in my bedroom for 60% of the price and the buyers said its too expemnsive and offered to pay for like 30% of the USA price,
i fucking hate the music community, i hope the current wave of indie bands destroy the metal fags

>>70543138
picking hard is the shit tho

>>70542988
What if I need to let the 4th string ring out while I play on the second and need to mute the 1st 3rd 5th and 6th?

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How the fuck to I stop fret buzz when doing bar chords? Like, the amount of pressure needed to stop this is ridiculous. Is this what all guitarists need to do?

I hold the bar, and the 6th string is never pressed down far enough. Same with the first. And that's without using my other fingers, which make it worse.

Coming from a piano player, this is the worst part of playing guitar, that small nuances can make you sound like complete ass.Like, my hand is killing me now and I hold my guitar in a death grip and I still get buzzes (Even when just straight strumming over and over).

>>70543138
Wouldn't using a lighter pick help?

>>70543252
Only if you prefer flap thwap to click cluck

>>70543142
damn really sucks
well to be honest offset guitar are kinda expensive here aswell, just saw a squier jazzmaster (used) at 260000 chilean pesos

>>70543269
Is it because of the heavier strings? If I put heavier strings on my guitar will it become more noticable?

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>>70533671
I hope nobody actually does this
No.
It's all hand strength and barre positioning which is different for everyone to some degree

>>70543248
keep practising? maybe the neck is too big for u

>>70543248
your string height may be too high. it's not supposed to be easy in the beginning because you don't have the muscles built up, but it sounds like you're struggling way way too much to hold a barre.

it may need to be set up

>>70542895
You think they would they actually believe the story that it's broken? Shipping is probably really expensive too, might be cheaper to send two packages, one with the neck and the other with the body.

so how much of pain in the ass is bringing a guitar on an airplane? i've never done it before, i'm googling around and apparently i can bring it as a carry on?

>>70543464
I did it one time. I put it up on the overhead bin. Please please make sure you have a sturdy case. Also check with the airline to see if they might charge you extra or something.

If its not the action or the neck then legit just practice the bar on the 3rd fret and you might have to slide finger up a little more where your fingertip sticks out a bit more to get it, and just hold it down and strum until your hand cant take it anymore

Do this everyday

>>70543464
You can, if it's in a case. TSA might try to take it apart though because they're niggers but the most they'll do is remove the cavity covers or pickguard.

>>70542453
Has a nice sound in alter bridge but I never went out of my way to listen to him.

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What is the most one should pay for a Stratocaster?

I went in to sweetwater a couple weeks ago looking to blow $2-3k on a nice guitar to celebrate finishing med school.

I was thinking for sure I would get a Gibson Thunderbird, ES-339, high end schecter or even a MMJPX.

I've owned several MiM fenders in the past and felt meh about them.
I grabbed pic related on a whim and it was the best guitar I've played.

Now I'm trying to figure out what went wrong with my thinking.

How is it any different than a $300 Schecter with some upgraded pick ups. The schecter comes decked out with FR bridge, locking tuners, etc.

Are these expensive fenders truly worth it? Do they REALLY out play and outsound their mid range price competition?

Squire is trash so don't bring them in to it.

How does this thread like Alan Prsons Project?

>>70543618
what is your endgame? you obviously dont care about music....all you care about is bragging rights for having an expensive piece of shiny wood.

>Squire is trash so don't bring them in to it.
yet they are still literally a piece of wood with tiny bits of wire stretched across them...maybe you are trash...just saying

>>70543678
anon dont be rude

>>70543665
Why do you wanna talk about a band that old?

>>70543618
Can't go wrong with a 65 reissue (or that Eric Johnson model) they're a little expensive but they're seriously as good as a strat can get. No need to upgrade anything, everything will be perfect. With cheaper strats there is always some flaw.

I think if you're spoiling yourself for a reward it's worth it.

>>70543678
lel, sassy.

I want a guitar that sounds 10/10 and plays 10/10.

Right now the only other guitar I've played that good was a custom shop ES-335.

And also, I used to make $$ playing in a band. Obviously now I just want to play some music to relax on the weekend.

>>70543730
Yeah the cheap mim fenders usually have some problems that you have to fix, with a file, sauder, truss rod adjustment etc.

These high end fenders don't suffer from the problems? I've not paid too much thought to them in the past.

I didn't even know who EJ was, but his strat is just perfect, or seemed that way in the store.

>>70543781
All the ones I've played have been flawless, but they are a bit of a luxury. You're paying for a perfect strat and it delivers. The next best thing are the MIM 60s classic lacquer series, they're less than half the price and get you 80% of the way there, if you were to upgrade the pickups to something like Jason Lollars you would have something that's pretty close to the high end fenders (might even sound a little better).. Now they even have nitro finishes like the American guitars.

Whats the difference between a Gibson Standard T and a Gibson Traditional SR?

>>70543865
Yeah I was considering grabbing one of the classic series and throwing in a piezo bridge and some of those new EJ pickups or some of the new schecter custom pick ups which would be cost effective.

>>70543730
I played one of those 65 reissue strats when they first came out and it was seriously the best guitar ive ever played. Super resonant, sounded great, played amazing.
>No need to upgrade anything, everything will be perfect. With cheaper strats there is always some flaw.
This is basically the reason for spending $1500 on a guitar. Mexi strats are a lot more consistent now but i'll always wanna upgrade the electronics eventually, sometimes the frets need work, etc.

If you have the money, and you've been playing long enough to know you'll stick with it, save your self the headache and buy a good guitar from the get go. If you buy a lightly used fender or gibson (particularly in the $1000-1500 range) they wont even go down in value. you can always sell for about what you got it, maybe a little less or more

>>70543946
The pickups on the traditional are lower output, for a more "vintage" sound. The rest is marketing bullshit

>>70533084
The rule of thumb is to start with mostly root until you've got a feel, then embellish. Don't be afraid to add a little of yourself to the mix, bass doesn't get enough love.

Is there any way to make tele pickups a little less microphonic? No company makes a set to replace these, so thats out.

So basically would potting them in wax help? Maybe have them rewound by a pro?

Yo wtf I just heard rosewood is going wtf gives

>>70533571
Second on classical. The idea of pulling down is right, but it has to be done with the guitar in the right position

>>70544246
Going away

>>70544078
Even on the sprint run version? How does this effect the way they sound?

>>70544246
yes the entire species of rosewood tree is just vanishing from the earth

wtf????

>>70544293
I had to look that line up. Most "traditionals" came with 57 classics which are voiced like les pauls from the 50s; the 57 classic pups have been around for a while. I dont know how to explain them but theyre lower output, handle cleans a bit better. I like how they sound distorted too. Id describe them a little microphonic too but not in a bad way.
Best sound i can think of that describes them perfectly is Duane Allman on Eat a peach.

The SR line has "59" pickups, which im guessing sound like jimmy page. basically classic dad rock guitar tone. maybe slightly more output than 57 classics?

the modern 490r & 490T handle distortion a little better; probably best for "hard rock", alternative or "modern" sounds.

It all depends what youre going for; its not that big a deal, its gonna sound like a gibson. I have a LP studio with the 490r & T pickups. Sounds good for jazz, rock, blues, etc. cleans arent bad.
If i was buying an LP id get a used traditional from a few years back, but thats me because i like that mellow vintagey tone

>>70543618
If you're blowing 3k call up the custom shop

>>70543464
They let me take it on board when I went to Texas

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Anyone have any experience with esparto navigators? I want a start and think these are the most aesthetically pleasing I've ever seen.

>>70544490
The one Im looking at has this in the description. "The Sprint Run Les Paul Traditional begins with the specs of the great Les Paul that rocked the world through the '80s and '90s and updates the template with a creative blend of classic and innovative features to produce a guitar that's ready to rock your world today"

I love the way this one looks it's absolutely gorgeous but I'm not so sure about the older style pick-ups. I don't like the way any of the other gibsons look nearly as much this one is stunning.

>>70543665
I dig em, Gaudi is one of my fav albums

>>70543464
uh, if its a guitar and you have a hardcase its not too bad, just be polite to gate staff and and ask the on board crew if they can put it in the coat cupboard. if its a smaller craft though that might be a bit riskier and overhead bins are your way to go. in the us instruments count as carry on so you should be golden. just be polite and youll be fine.

- someone whos taken several instruments on several international flights

>>70544618
The company name is Navigator (same as ESP) Never played that particular model but every navigator I've played has been nice, good MIJ quality. I wouldn't pay more than $500 for one though.

>>70544631
>59 Tribute humbuckers
>Rocked the world through the 80s and 90s
Like i said, marketing bullshit. If you like it, just get it. Pickups are a matter of taste but those arent gonna sound bad desu
Frankly i just read a bit about them and im confused as to what those even sound like. Watch some youtube demos, but like i said, they wont sound bad. Most pickups in expensive guitars sound nice; better electronics are like half the selling point of expensive guitars, they spend time developing those

>>70544821
Thanks anon.

>>70544706
Thanks anon, I'm an ESP guy so that clears it up for me quite a bit. gonna get that or an Edwards I think.

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hi

>>70534531
>le make them 100x better than what they're trying to kind've copy company

yes thanks

>>70545139
Time to refinish the bass now right?

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>>70545328
Yeah cant decide between seafoam or surf green

>>70543248
Just raise the action on the strings you're getting fret buzz on. Its not hard to do, there are plenty of videos on YT that will show you exactly how to do it.

>>70543618
If you're asking how to spend $3,000 on a guitar then you shouldn't.

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Just a reminder that one of the greatest bassists ever used a pick.

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Anyone know what this is?
It doesn't look like a fender to me, never seen one in that finish nor with black inlays on a rosewood fretboard. Help.

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>>70545756

>>70545777
What? I know it's a tele but I want to know if it's a fender or not, or what it might be.

>>70545756
that's a first generation BC Rich mockingbird

>>70545815
ur so fucking stupid

>>70545845
ur mom xd

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Its nailed shut. What do

>>70546094
claw hammer

>>70545702
literally who

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>>70545756
http://www.rainbowguitars.com/guitar/fender/custom-shop-1963-telecaster-custom-heavy-relic-lake-placid-blue/9231004176/fe

>>70546094
Remove nails with magnets

>>70546094
smash it open with a sledgehammer

>>70546094
gasoline and a match

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>>70546094
>>70546126
>>70546307

Ok this is the inside. I have some pickups to replace the dead neck and failing bridge. This looks like more of a clusterfuck than normal

Any advise

>>70546385
Buy CTS pots and a switchcraft switch and start again.

Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan have wiring diagrams for every combination of pickups, pots and switches you can imagine

how 2 get thicc tone?

>>70540763
djentbabbys really should just play bass VIs and baritones desu

>>70546466
EQ

>>70546466
thicc strings

>>70544975
i have a couple edwards and my advice is dont even bother, just get an american strat
and navigators are ridiculous. they are easily $2k to $3k and up, and at that point why not just get a top of the line american series

>>70546466
pussy juice on fingers from thicc grill

>>70542735
god DAMN Miles Kennedy can sing, even if Alter Bridge is Affliction-core

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>>70532985
A band isn't a band unless it has this many guitars.

whats the cheapest tele i can buy before they start getting shitty

>>70546781
>post feldman eagles

shit taste confirmed

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>>70546787
get the squier affinity telecaster for $199
they are literally perfect

i have two totally stock and they sound just as good as an american made fender no joke

>>70546787
It's hard to fuck up a tele. Do what the other guy said and buy a new affinity squier. I'm very satisfied with mine, amazing neck and tone

>>70546839
>>70546942
the regular affinity? how much setup work did it need?

>>70547085
i took a large metal file and ran it on the bottom edge of the neck to smooth some rough frets that was it

Are Jet City amps a meme? I am ogling at them because they are cheap, and they sound alright on some youtube demos. Anyone here has had any experience with them?

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>when your friend tells you a new meme and you get excited to post it on /gg/

smug barney is now a /gg/ meme, get used to it

>>70540930
I'm kinda hoping that because the price of import guitars from asia is getting higher in the UK because of brexit it will encourage people to buy US and UK made guitars. Considering certain korean/indonesian models are over 1k here now it isn't really as affordable as it used to be. The meme of quality import guitars at cheap prices has been dead for a while.

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Would it be worth it to install new pickups on this? I knew what I was getting when I bought it since it was so cheap, but the current pickups seem weak and thin to me.

>>70548601
Mexican Standard?
Custom Shop?
American Standard?
????

>>70548713
Mexican standard, cheapest one I could find that had the Fender logo on it basically.

>>70548715
You could get hotter pickups if it sounds too thin. You could also look into single coil sized humbuckers if you really want to thicken it up.

>>70548721
I'm fine with single pickups since all my other guitars have humbuckers. Are those Seymour 3 pickups packs worth it?

What's an amp loop?

What can I use it for?

>>70548782
You mean effects loop? You use it to make your reverb and delay pedals not sound like trash

>>70548743
If you're looking for strat pickups check out Lindy Fralin, http://www.fralinpickups.com/

>>70549101
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