What's the appeal?

People like memes and simplifying things to pictures so they don't have to read so much.

>>70469773
It's trendy atm

>>70469773
you don't have to pay much attention to it

>>70469773
If you're asking this question honestly, the answer is superb production, solid flows and fun/hedonistic lyrics.

>>70469911
Degenerate trash then

>>70469934
Basically yes, like many fun things in life

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>>70469934
*tips virginity*

>>70470163
pink floyd and radiohead

>>70469934
anyone who's ever unironically used the term "degenerate" to describe something needs to neck themselves, I can't think of a term that better captures the impotent angsty bitterness of the involuntarily celibate

>>70469773
tastemakers have deemed it fashionable so nu-males started believing it's not shit tier music for the lowest common denominator

>>70469773
It vibes with me when I'm hammered at a kick back and just barely hanging on

>>70469773

A more appropriate name for this genre of music would be Bix Nood.

>>70471458
*would be utter shite

>>70469773
it's just role playing for white people and middle class black people

a lot of it is relateable to inner city youth

>>70472181
>muh only white ppl listen to rap

confirmed for cocooned white kid

>>70472230
can you read?

>>70472181
And lower/upper class black people and many Asians. So basically, everyone in America but Hispanics and other assorted minorities.

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>>70469911
>superb production
>solid flows and fun/hedonistic lyrics
>mumble rap
its a solid piece of shit

>>70469911
>superb production
Trap producers literally brag about how they're able to make beats in a matter of minutes

>>70472789
>>70472744
Not an argument. Prove in some objective fashion that the production on albums like Rodeo and DS2 was poor.

>>70469934
>Degenerate
Talk about virtue signalling

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>>70469773
reposting the absolute truth

>>70473296
Yeah because because the right wing doesn't live vicariously though American Sniper, Call of Duty, the NFL, NASCAR etc. Great argument m8.

>>70469934
post a non-degenerate album

>>70469911
>superb production
Trap-rap has some of the worst "production" I've ever heard

It's either so generic it barely exists or it tries to be interesting and different and it just sounds like tacky garbo

>solid flows
Are you serious? The lyrics barely correspond to the beat half the time

>fun/hedonistic
Bitch/money/jewelry/lean formed into a sentence fragment and repeated a dozen times

I'm not above lyrics like that but I expect them to be like that with some kind of purpose.

I mean if I'm wrong I'd love to hear about some of this. The only redeeming mumble-rap musical experience I've had is Travis Scott's Rodeo

>>70473631
Again, these are your subjective impressions with no examples provided to support them. Most of the trap albums which receive critical acclaim most certainly do not have a "generic" sound, at least when compared to any other popular album. The idea that the "lyrics don't correspond to the beat" is based entirely off of your own subjective idea of which lycics would pair best with a certain beat so there really isn't any way I could logically argue against that. Given that 99% of popular music lyricism is either trite nonsense related to love/sex or general party bullshit (you can confirm this by going to http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100 and clicking on some of the song snippets for the non hip hop/r&b tracks) I don't think that the lyricism is any worse than anything else you might hear on the radio. Nobody criticized The Beatles for putting out innane tracks like "love love me do I'll always love you" so why would we criticize Future for talking about hoes? It's all the same shit really.

>>70469773
it makes you feel woozy
thats pretty much it

>>70473631
>sounds like tacky garbo
subjective

>The lyrics barely correspond to the beat half the time
confirmed for not knowing shit

>some kind of purpose
*tips fedora*

>>70469911
>superb production
don't make me fucking choke on my drink please

>solid flows
some flows are interesting enough but that doesn't count for shit if you can't understand them

>fun/hedonistic lyrics
listening to brain dead uninspired indecipherable lyrics isn't fun but it certainly is hedonistic.

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>>70474551
>Not an argument
>You can't understand what they're saying. Many people can though, plus you are always free to visit Genius. That's an extremely weak argument anyway, is all music in a foreign language suddenly shit now?
>100% subjective

>>70474551
go listen to j cole

The production on some tracks are nice
It's fun at clubs

But yeah, 80 or 90% of it are trash

>>70469773
lol I like trap but OP image is pretty accurate
People like trap because it slaps there's not much more to it

>>70476595
That's a perfectly acceptable reason to like a genre though. 99% of non autistic people outside of places like /mu/ the music they like because it "sounds good"

It's easy to make

Black people are widely known to be the dumbest race (let's be honest here, it's an eternal elephant in the room), so when a music genre that requires no brain power comes along you're gonna see a lot of blacks jumping on the trend. The lyrics are nonsense so it doesn't require you to think much, whether you're writing or listening to them

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>>70476885
Kek. I would genuinely love to know what makes you think you're so superior to the majority white audiences, which pack arenas and concert halls to see artists like Future, Waka, Travis Scott etc. Your shitty taste? Furthermore, if it's so easy to make go make us a great trap album and post it here. Since it requires "no brain power" I imagine that this shouldn't take you longer than a few hours or so.

>>70476885
>muh alternative hypothesis

>>70476885
LOL RETARDS ARE FUCKING HILARIOUS. WHITE PEOPLE JUMP ON THE TREND AS WELL. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, IT'S STILL DUMB AS FUCK BUT DISCERNABLE. STOP

What's with blacks and cough syrup

the argument that trap music is bad because its "easy" to make is pretty fucking dumb. thats like saying punk music is bad because all it takes is 3 or 4 chords and a few root notes on the bass to make a song

>>70471458
i've never understood what bix nood means

>>70472199
How the fuck is mumbling about pandas relateable to inner city youth?

Nas made illmatic when he was 18.

let that sink in.

>>70469773
When did muddy reach meme tier status?

>>70478267
In some places it was/is an easily obtainable or legal opiod.

tfw shlohmo went from bad vibes to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZunkuitQ3A

it's like producer suicide 101

>>70480326
>Shlohmo will never release a high quality album with tracks like Same Time, Places and Seriously ever again.

Sad, his music nosedived over the last couple years.

>>70470973
Anyone who's ever unironically generalized people for using a word that's roots go back to 15th century Latin needs to neck themselves, I can't think of a post that better captures the impotent angsty bitterness of the involuntary celibate.

PS you're a faggot and a degenerate

latent racism

honestly
exists in every sjw and wigger

>>70469911
>fun/hedonistic lyrics
>nigga i suckadickinherassaniSKRRRRRRRRRThunnidhunniduhhhhSKRRRT

It's just a meme. It's the big fad in rap right now for the 2010s. It's nearing the end of it's run. By 2018 it'll be passe. The cloud rap boom with Lil B and all those meme rappers around 2012-13 inspired it mixed with the Gucci Mane trap house party shit and the combining of the "funny" lyrics/persona, mumble flow and atmospheric production from the cloud rap with the production/themes of the Gucci Mane trap house Southern shit gave us the Young Thug, Migos, Lil Yachty, Kodak Black etc. scene. 2014-2016 was the peak.

>>70477385

>to the majority white audiences, which pack arenas and concert halls to see artists like Future, Waka, Travis Scot

They are all there ironically, whether they know it or not. They are all attending modern-day minstrel shows, wow look at this negro dance! It's so funny!

>>70479657
Ever been to a zoo bitch?

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>>70480635
>>70480552
these guys get it desu

all this shit like "black twitter", KTT, mumble meme rap, cuck blacked.com porn being pushed etc. are just white teenage kids making fun of black people or gawking at them in awe as some sort of entertainment/primitive beast in a zoo

>>70469773
it's half image half instrumental and production, the appeal is that it's fun to listen to while your high or just blasting it. Some of it's good and some of it sucks but people who shit on it are embarrassing autists.

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>People rap about Chronic
>Shout out LA
>People rap about Crystal
>Shout out NYC
>People rap about Lean
>No ones shouts out Houston

Bet half of these niggas don't even know Screw-zoo.

>>70480770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ds7d3piK54

>>70480326
>that feel when drugs and money ruin every good artist

feels bad man

>>70469773
It something you can play loud enough to drown out the sounds of your thoughts. Less thinking more raging. It's retarded but it sells.

>>70480797

Track is just called Houston old head and he just mentions going to Houston, that's about it.

There's no place in that song where he give h-toen props.

>>70473324
>the point

>your head

It's called hypocrisy. The right wing accepts masculinity instead of deriding it. Hope that clears things up.

>>70480861
he gives props to texas in a lot of his songs considering he pretty much bit that flow and lean rap to get famous, people shoutout houston all the time

>>70480916

>he gives props to texas in a lot of his songs

Prove it and post them.

>>70480952
yeah this song has nothing to do with houston https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuZ2QZKYj7c

props to pimp c and lil flip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6JUzxWoGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrgLz4eVWdA

>>70481040
I feel sorry for that white girl's parents

>>70469865
>not focusing on purely the music when listening to music
>browsing /mu/

shit dont add up

>>70470973
>hurr if you disagree with me you're a virgin

that's quite an argument you've got there loser

>>70469773
lyrics are supposed to merge with the instrumental so lyricism doesn't matter, autists don't understand that

>>70471029
this is the only correct answer
the vast majority of trap rap is irredeemable fucking garbage
The only 2 artists I've enjoyed in this new wave are Denzel Curry and Zelooperz.

>>70481040

First song, says his texas trill (Port Arthur slang made popular by UGK)

Second song he makes a tribute to a rapper from Port Arthur and goes about being "Texas trill"

Third song he gives Lil Flip a shoutout, doesn't mention houston; just mentions Pimp C, and Three Six Mafia. Nothing beyond basic shoutouts.

I guess if you consider saying RIP to Pimp C or call yourself trill, you're holding it down for Houston.

>>70481226
He's not holding it down for houston he's shouting out houston rap that influenced his style out. The fuck do you expect every rapper who talks about lean to rep houston in every song. Travis Scott raps about lean and repped houston in his earlier stuff so idk what you're tlaking about no lean rappers shoutout houston.

>>70481311

The intial post is how come no one shouts out Houston for screwed and chopped/codeine culture and you tried to use Rocky as an example, which I disputed and now you're trying to flip it saying that I'm claiming everyone has to shout out Houston if they want to rap about lean.

Travis Scott is a houston native.

Suburban white guy from Houston
>place is dank can schmoke blunts almost everwhere
>everyone has sipped lean
>I have sipped green, purple, and yellow
>10/10 drug

has any one else been leanin

>>70481311
wtf why does houston need to be "held down"? cause it's majority non-white? racist ass crackers itt baka

>>70481388
Yeah and i showed you songs where he gives props to houston rap lol, apparently you want him to rep houston like Jay z does NY or something

>>70481445

If by props you mean saying your trill and giving shoutouts to rappers from PORT ARTHUr TEXAS is repping houston then I don't know what to tell you.

>>70481501
i never said he was repping houston, you said people don't shoutout houston and i just showed you they do

>>70480770
>People rap about Lean
>No ones shouts out Houston

>>70469773
Niggers gonna nig

>>70481552
>i just showed you they do

Other than saying he goes to Houston in Houston Old Head, he doesn't shoutout Houston in any way.

Trill is texan slang that came out of PA. Pimp C/UGK are from PA. In multiply he gives shoutout to Lil Flip, a rapper from Houston, but that's it. So like i said in several posts now, he's not really giving Houston a shoutout.

This is an extremly dumb convo anyway so lets just drop it anway.

u guys are all fucking idiots, some of it is just fun music, i started listening to young thug and i like his music simply because its fun and catchy, sort of like a guilty pleasure but without the guilt

>>70482134
you like watching le funny negro say nonsense and dance around for your amusement racist fuck

>>70482155
>you like watching le funny negro say nonsense
>watching him say
also, rude

rap was made by black people to piss off white people and now it's too accepted by white people so black people had to innovate

>>70480722
>>70480635
If that was the case, we've gone well past that point. Now blacks are watching Asian rapper minstrel shows.
https://youtu.be/-KMBELyZ_sM

>>70469823
First post, best post.

What even is the purple drink

>>70469934
4chan is degenerate. And yet.

>>>/reddit/

>>70477385

Just because something takes a long time to make doesn't mean it was worthwhile, intellectually tasking or important.

>>70472789
No that's rappers bragging about being able to do songs in minutes.

>>70477593

This website is great! Glad to see it being memed.

>>70482995
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lean
>>70483010
Take as much time as you wish then. Come back in a month or so if you'd like and start a new thread. Also, what makes you the arbiter of what is and isn't worthwhile/important/intellectually tasking?

>>70469773
Makes me want to drink alcohol, get fucked up, pick up chicks in a club and treat them with disrespect.

Real man genre.

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>>70476885
if it ain't wite it ain't rite

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>>70483063
Pretty much though. I'll bet that this guy loves trap.

>>70483076
Trap is okay. I do listen to "le conscious XD" rap more though. But Trap and shit like Yung Lean get me into the mood to be a real scum bag.

>>70480722
>people engaged in black culture are just memeing
>white women wanting to fuck black men is just a meme, even if they really do fuck black guys

Sorry to tell ya bud, but not everything is a meme.

>>70480722
Sorry to say dude... But white girls fuck black guys on the daily.

>>70483063
This guy gets it. Real pussy-getting music.

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>>70483089
>"le conscious XD" rap

Stop with this. Literally nothing wrong with conscious rap, it's just retards trying to delegitimize the entire genre.

>He can actually rap well?
>KEK FUCKING TRYHARD THAT SOMEHOW MEANS IT'S TERRIBLE NOW

I blame Lil B, everyone took him too seriously and didn't realize he makes shit songs so people can listen to his actually good songs.

>>70483181
I was only saying "le concious rap XD" to be light hearted bro. It actually is my primary "genre".

>>70483139
It really is, it just gets in the mood to be social and laidback.

>>70469911
kek

>>70473985
>Nobody criticized The Beatles for putting out innane tracks like "love love me do I'll always love you"

Uh, plenty of people criticized them for that

>>70474701
>100% subjective
then why even make the argument in the first place?

saying someone's criticisms are "subjective" isn't useful and is just a cop-out

>>70484995
Its just like saying 2deep4u, its not an argument either but it kills it so they can pretend they won without actually saying anything.

>>70484995
>>70485016
No, presenting a subjective opinion as an argument is a cop out. What possible argument could anyone make against "it's not fun?" Should we just say "no, it is fun" in response? How are we supposed to argue some elses taste?

>>70469773
>implying Death Grips isnt mumble rap

>>70472789
Effort ≠ Quality

>>70484978
And those people fell on the wrong side of history as the Beatles are now universally regarded as one of the most important and influential musical acts of the 20th century (inb4 retarded contrarianism regarding the Beatles). I imagine this will be the case in this instance as well. A large number of people enjoy the sound that these these artists make. If you don't that's fine, you are free to listen to the sounds which you enjoy. You aren't proving anything to anyone by acting all high and mighty about not liking a certain genre of music. I like the way the production sounds on Dirty Sprite 2. I think Metro Boomin did a fantastic job and he deserves all of the accolades which he has received throughout his career. Furthermore, like many other people, I find the mellow huskiness of Futures voice to be soothing and pleasant, especially as it flows over the dark, atmospheric production which Metro provided for the album. Additionally, I enjoy hearing Future talk about hoes, strip clubs and xanax. I go to strip clubs, occasionally use xanax and deal with bullshit from women regularly so I find that type of content to be relevant to my everyday life. In contrast, the lyrical content of genres such as Indie or Metal to be relatable. You might have a different lifestyle and mindset though, so your experience may vary. What else do you want us to tell you? What do you eventually hope to gain out of making threads like this over and over again? The simple fact of the matter is that millions of people find this type of music to be sonically pleasing. Why is that so difficult for some of the people on here to accept? At the end of the day, why do you even care?

>>70485541
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from.

It's good.

>>70481435
doesn't seem that enjoyable desu, cough syrup taste like shit and from what the effects seem to be it seems like alternative alcohol

Future uses auto tune and try telling me Codeine Crazy, News or Somethn, Blood On The Money as well as most of DS2 aren't beautiful

>>70469911
Damn I love how hard this triggered /mu/

>>70480326
shlohmo sucked before he went trap rap

>>70469773
Is good,

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>>70470163
ACTUALLUY FAGGOT I AM NOT A VIRGIN I THINK YOU ARE BECAUSE ITS THE FIRST THING YOU CLAIM THAT I AM VRIGIN FAGGOT LOSER

>>70480326
he always put being trendy over good music but this is the most uninspired I've ever heard

>>70480552
>>70480722
it's not latent racism or gawking, it's a music scene that has a large focus on fashion, video and brand. that's what a lot of white people look for in music and it doesn't mean that they're being ironic

>>70474551
>listening to brain dead uninspired indecipherable lyrics isn't fun but it certainly is hedonistic.


funpolice

>>70478274
yeah but white people make punk

If you aren't young (under 30) and regularly getting pussy/having fun you have no right to criticize trap. The music isn't intended for people like you.

>>70492880
t. virgin

>>70492966
Hating popular music is autistic as fuck though. Well adjusted, social people enjoy Jay Z, Kanye, the Beatles, Lil Wayne, Drake, Future, dadrock etc.

>>70480326
YUNG LEAN IS SO SHIT. WHY IS HE TRYING TO BE A SERIOUS RAPPER WTF. HE'S GOOD WHEN IT'S JUST HIM AND GUD AND YOU CAN'T REALLY HEAR HIS VOICE. He's fallen off so hard.

ZOMG POP IS SO VAPID AND EMPTY

ZOMG BUTTROCK AND FOO FIGHTERS ARE PLEB

TRAP AND MUMBLERAP IS PATRICIAN AF

lmao

>>70493225
Pop is good though, and so are the Foo Fighters