Can we all agree that political music is garbage? Especially

The song isn't political

>>70466592
>And I thought the best way to perfect our tree,
>Is by building walls.
>Rose like unicorns,
>In full glory and galore.
>And even stronger than the walls of Jericho,
>Glad then my friend let in the few we shall reap a grand idea,
>Of what we have always dreamt of having,
>Now for the starving,
>It is love,
>And that is the root of all evil,
>But not our tree, and thank you my friend,
>For trusting me.
it's completely political and hits you over the head with it too

>>70466561
Rightards are too stupid to make music. All they care about is GUNZ and MUH TRADITIONAL VALUES

Those cucks think they can insult the God Emperor? They'll never have a band as iconic as Three Doors Down or Kid Rock on their team. Boy I love drinking libtard tears while making America great again.

>Can we all agree that opinions I disagree with are garbage
literally you

all music is political

>>70466561
I guess that Bob Dylan's songs are all garbage according to you. Frank Zappa's songs too.

>>70466561
No. Shut the fuck up, triggered /pol/faggot.

>gorillaz makes kids with guns
MAN THIS IS SO GOOD
>anti trump song
WTF THIS IS BAD STOP ATTACKING MY SHITTY PRESIDENT REEEEEEEEEEEE

>Can we all agree that political music is garbage?

so what you're saying is

>Can we all agree that political music that doesn't agree with my personal political views is garbage?

>>70466561
it's best to seek approval on reddit

>>70467223
but Kids With Guns was a solid pop song. This is... something. I'm sure it'll click eventually.

>>70467223
>gorillaz makes kids with guns
Man, this sucks.
>anti trump song
Man, this sucks.

>>70466561
>"stop having opinions i don't like!!!!!!"
funny how the "we don't need safe spaces" crowd expects everything to pander to them and not challenge them

Music that puts the political bullshit before the actual music is garbage.
If the music itself is good I don't care about how much I agree or disagree with the lyrics.

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This was AOTY 2016 so idk what you're talking about

This song plain sucks and this guy looks like a spooky aids victim

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Just watched this shit and the first thing I thought, was 'I bet some butthurt /pol/edditors will be whining about this on /mu/' and lo and behold I find this on the front page.

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>>70466561
Jej, tfw babbies can't even into some catchy hip-hop base level politicore.

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This is a great album though

>>70466561
its biased towards the left because being biased towards the right is completely retarded, and no one would buy that shit.

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>>70467345
You are a retard.

Right wing ideology is inherently incompatible with any kind of art, but particularly music.

>Presidential candidate I approve of gets elected
>he's politically unpopular
>me: YO TIME OUT ON POLITICAL MUSIC
>YO CAN WE AGREE FUCK POLITICAL MUSIC
>TIME OUT
>TIME OUT TIL IT'S SOMEONE I DON'T LIKE

>>70468034
I'm glad I'll never be this retarded

>>70468106
But you're already on 4chan m8

>>70467421
this desu
I listen to music for the music not about some political shit I don't care about

I'd like it a bit more if it wasn't so blatantly anti-right

>>70468393
so it violates your safe space

>>70466838
Both of those fags are garbage though

Stop worshipping Jews

>>70468087
He's not unpopular though, you're fucking retarded

>>70466561
BREAKING NEWS

MOST ARTISTS ARE LEFTIST

MORE IN THE NIGHT EDITION

>>70468944
Make me neckbeard

And Zappa was an Italian

>>70468106
Right wing stands for traditionalism and capitalism

Postmodernism leaked into popular music

A right winger who listens to free jazz or krautrock suffers cognitive dissonance as those are communist and Anarchist ideologies

yeah I do
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuzpFMWReZw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGFyxAP0QE

>>70466672
think again, cuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH4p_MX4YG8

>never listened to Dead Kennedys
>never listened to Manic Street Preachers

>>70469378
Right wing and left wing are essentially meaningless at this point, and I'm surprised that people keep using the terms. They are so general and changing that you might as well avoid them entirely.

>>70468982
Do you have anything to back this up?

>>70469564

He won enough votes to become the president of the united states.

>>70469564
Not him but I'm excited to hear you cite the same vein of sources that all predicted a Hillary win

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>>70466561
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>70469484
Tim is a meme

>>70469583
Next he's going to cite the percentage out of the whole population rather than eligible voters who casted their votes in order to frame things as negatively as possible. It's their talking point lately.

>>70466561
lol what should music be about then?

>>70469564
Pretty much half of America liked him enough

>>70469583
he literally lost the popular vote.

>>70468982
He's literally the most unpopular president to ever be elected in modern history. He didn't even win the popular vote against a fucking potato. I don't care if you support Trump, but don't you don't have to be even more retarded than you probably already are.

>>70469378
>Postmodernism leaked into popular music
No it didn't.

>>70469560
except for the fact that many, many people align themselves staunchly one way or the other. your average 65-year-old voter doesn't give a shit about the nuances of personal politics when their entitlements are on the line.

>>70468982
He lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes (the most in history for a president), is the most unpopular presidential candidate to win an election since the 19th century, and is the least popular major party nominee in modern history. He's taking office with the lowest approval rating for any non-incumbent president in history, and he's the first Republican President in history not to be endorsed by his predecessors.

Also, almost no popular musicians want to play his inauguration, and as evidenced by this thread, he's on track to inspire all the top albums of 2017 to be anti-Trump albums.

>>70469618

Kind of reminds me how leftards during their brief period of blaming the hillary loss on 3rd party voters, arrogantly assumed that if they didn't vote 3rd party they "obviously" would've voted hillary.

If they liked hillary so much then they would've voted for in the first place.

>>70469656

Sorry but popular vote means shit. Trump had the most EVEN DISTRIBUTION of votes among the states, that's why he won. It works that way because we don't want mexicans who flood into california and have 18 bazillion children screwing up the vote results.

I mean, I get that you decide whether or not you trust a source based on whether or not it agrees with you, but

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/donald-trump-polls-least-popular-president-elect

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>>70469634
Actually 26.73% of eligible voters voted for him on election day. Which still doesn't even mean that each voter that decided Trump liked him.

Yes, but this song is garbage regardless of the message as well.

>>70469750
>the corrupt and greedy elites hate a candidate
>this is a bad thing

Holy shit lmao

>>70469736
I refuse to use the terms. They are way too simplistic and divisive. Political affiliation is incredibly complicated and the idea that it can be summed up in two categories is fucking retarded/

>>70469778
>popular vote means shit

actually it's a pretty good indication of, if nothing else, popularity, which is what we're talking about

>>70469793
Uh huh, and tell the class how that percent compares to his opponent and the outgoing president. Go ahead, tell us anon. Surely you're not leaving out vital context on purpose.

>>70469778
You are fucking retarded. California has not gone red since Reagan (his home state), and probably never will again. So, stop being an ignorant fuck.

>>70469813
>the corrupt and greedy elites

you literally support a billionaire president who shits on a golden toilet, refuses to put his assets in a blind trust, refuses to release his tax returns, likely hasn't paid taxes in ten years, appointed friends and family to cabinet positions, and is well on track to be the most corrupt and greedy elite in the oval office in the history of the united states

>>70469834
The context is Trump's popularity you dumbfuck. You stupidly imply that I have some absurd Clintonite motive by pointing out that Trump is a pile of shit that no one likes.

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>trumpfags literally triggered by a song

>>70469813
i get where you're coming from, and i'm not policing your language. i'm just saying that for many "right wing" and "left wing" still hold a lot of weight.

let's not even delve into the possibility that words can change meaning over time (gasp). the bottom line is that the west is extremely politically divided. you can call it left vs. right, bip vs. bop. i don't give a shit, but you can't ignore that there is about half of the western world who thinks you're an idiot for your beliefs, no matter what.

>>70469851
Right and your comment shows me that you don't know who "The Elites" are. If we were on their side, they wouldn't have spent the past year and a half conspiring against him and railing against him.

When the media, political establishment and intelligence agencies are all on the same side against a person, he is not in the in crowd that myself and anyone else is talking about besides low info voters.

>>70469818

I agree but you're forgetting that people are literally afraid of saying that they like trump because they'll be lambasted as raycis, trannyphobic, muh soggy knees and all the other buzzwords people throw around. This is why all of the predictions about hillary winning were wrong.

>>70469813
>I'm supporting a corrupt and greedy elite for candidate and hate corrupt and greedy elites

Holy shit lmao

>>70469922
The current political establishment being against Trump doesn't make him for the people I hope you realize that. Trump is an elite, and denying that is incredibly naive.

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You can be political and still make a good album, it just requires more of a thought and talent

>>70469906
I think you're drastically underestimating how many unaffiliated people are out there. How many people don't want the Democrats or Trump. I'm one of them.

>>70469891
Your refusal to answer speaks volumes. It's a standard percentage for elections, and you're framing it dishonestly. Whether it's because you're lock-step brainwashed where you're an MSM parrot, or shilling on purpose is impossible to know.

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>>70469930
>people are literally afraid of saying that they like trump
>he literally believes this

spoiler alert kiddo: you're the only one who's scared, because you're a beta alt-right pussy.

Predictions were wrong because the polling was done incorrectly

>>70469988
I know his wealth qualifies him as an elite, but I've been using The Elites to reference a group within the super rich, it's pretty clear.

>>70469958
I'm not a Trump supporter, you're just a small thinker.

>>70466561
No. You're just a fucking whiner with no ability to critical assess the world around you so you get pissed off when others do.

>>70466561
>Biased towards the left
Yes we really are living in socialist times aren't we!!!

>>70470043
>Not being able to keep a track of what beliefs an anonymous poster has makes you stupid

Holy shit lmao

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All music other than this is garbage

>>70466678
Too bad libtards will never have

Giacomo Antonio Perti (1661-1756)
Nicolas Siret (1663-1754)
Michele Mascitti (1664-1760)

cont.

>>70470012
>polling was done incorrectly repeatedly and consistently in a way that reflected negatively on Trump by the same groups who repeatedly were caught conspiring against him

No anon, surely it was a total accident. I'm amazed at how easy it is to fool people like you.

>>70470085
That's not why I called you a small thinker, and your ability to only parrot what I say isn't helping your cause. The next comment you won't because I told you to.

>>70470107
Johann Christoph Pepusch (1667-1752)
Johann Nicolaus Bach (1669-1753)
Giuseppe Avitrano (1670-1756)
Louis de Caix d'Hervelois (1670-1760)
Richard Leveridge (1670-1758)
Tomaso Albinoni (1671-1751)
Azzolino della Ciaja or della Ciaia or della Araja (1671-1755)
Georg Caspar Schürmann (1672/1673-1751)
Pierre Dumage (1674-1751)
Jacques-Martin Hotteterre (1674-1763)
Giovanni Porta (1675-1755)
Giacomo Facco (1676-1753)
Wolff Jakob Lauffensteiner (1676-1754)
Giuseppe Maria Orlandini (1676-1760)
Giovanni Carlo Maria Clari (1677-1754)
Ferdinando Antonio Lazzari (1678-1754)
Giovanni Antonio Piani (de) or Jean-Antoine Desplanes (1678-1760)
Manuel de Zumaya (1678-1755)
Jean-Baptiste Stuck (1680-1755)
Johann Mattheson (1681-1764)
Georg Philipp Telemann (1681-1767)
Giuseppe Valentini (1681-1753)
Paolo Benedetto Bellinzani (1682-1757)
Giacobbe Cervetto (1682-1783)
Pietro Baldassare (1683-after 1768)
Christoph Graupner (1683-1760)
Jean-Philippe Rameau (1683-1764)
François d'Agincourt (1684-1758)
François Bouvard (1684-1760)
Francesco Durante (1684-1755)
Francesco Manfredini (1684-1762)
Johann Theodor Roemhildt (1684-1756)
Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
Giuseppe Matteo Alberti (1685-1751)
Louis-Antoine Dornel (1685-1765)
George Frideric Handel (1685-1759)
Wilhelm Hieronymus Pachelbel (1685-1764)
Domenico Scarlatti (1685-1757)
Nicola Porpora (1686-1768)

>>70470043
"The elites" isn't just one group of people. Trump's not one of them, but he's not one of us either. Look at his cabinet picks and tell me that's not nepotism. He's just power-hungry, and took the opportunity when he saw it.

>>70470007
i'm curious if you're old enough to hold a regular job with working adults. because there are an abundance of people who identify as either left-leaning or right-leaning.

glad to see you're out there saving the world, though. i hope you realize that your being obtuse won't do anything to stop the damage a trump administration will do to america.

>>70470124
>Makes vague posts about an evil elite and thinks people that don't believe him are small thinkers

Holy shit lmao

>>70470129
Giovanni Battista Somis (1686-1763)
Willem de Fesch (1687-1761)
Francesco Geminiani (1687-1762)
Johann Georg Pisendel (1687-1755)
Johann Friedrich Fasch (1688-1758)
Thomas Roseingrave (1688-1766)
Jacques Aubert (1689-1753)
Joseph Bodin de Boismortier (1689-1755)
Pietro Gnocchi (1689-1775)
Francesco Barsanti (1690-1772)
Giuseppe Antonio Brescianello (1690-1758)
Pierre-Gabriel Buffardin (1690-1768)
Fortunato Chelleri (1690-1757)
François Colin de Blamont (1690-1760)
Giovanni Antonio Giai or Giay, Giaj (1690-1764)
Johann Tobias Krebs (1690-1762)
Gottlieb Muffat (1690-1770)
Jacques-Christophe Naudot (1690-1762)
Manuel José de Quirós (1690?-1765)
Francesco Maria Veracini (1690-1768)
Francesco Feo (1691-1761)
Jan Francisci (1691-1758)
Conrad Friedrich Hurlebusch (1691-1765)
Antonio Palella (1692-1761)
Giovanni Alberto Ristori (1692-1753)
Giuseppe Tartini (1692-1770)
Unico Wilhelm van Wassenaer (1692-1766)
Laurent Belissen (1693-1762)
Gregor Joseph Werner (1693-1766)
Louis-Claude Daquin (1694-1772)
Johann Samuel Endler (de) (1694-1762)

>>70470132
I'd rather have a wildcard than rule by the same group that's been in power my entire life. I don't like him either, but I have a small amount of favorability for him over the alternative.

>>70470136
And there are a huge amount of people who don't use those labels, more than not. Maybe you work somewhere that people like to express their political views, but aren't intelligent enough to understand nuance in affiliation.

>>70470073
Almost everyone believes they're a moderate, even if they tell themselves/others they're right wing/left wing to appear as though they've recognised and accounted for their personal biases.

>>70466561
>it's basically all biased toward the left.
>"This music is shit because the artist has different political opinions!"
What exactly does this song have to do with Trump, anyway? From what I could make out it just sounded anti-consumerism.

>>70470174
Pierre-Claude Foucquet (1694-1772)
Johan Helmich Roman (1694-1758)
Johann Lorenz Bach (1695-1773)
Pietro Locatelli (1695-1764)
Marie-Anne-Catherine Quinault (1695-1791)
Ernst Gottlieb Baron (1696-1760)
Pierre Février (1696-1760)
Maurice Greene (1696-1755)
Johann Melchior Molter (1696-1765)
Johann Caspar Vogler (1696-1763)
Andrea Zani (1696-1757)
Josse Boutmy (1697-1779)
Cornelius Heinrich Dretzel (1697-1775)
Adam Falckenhagen (1697-1754)
Johann Christian Hertel (1697/1699-1754)
Jean-Marie Leclair l'aîné (1697-1764)
Giuseppe de Majo (1697-1771)
Giovanni Benedetto Platti (1697-1763)
Johann Pfeiffer (1697-1761)
Johann Joachim Quantz (1697-1773)
Francesco Antonio Vallotti (1697-1780)
Pietro Auletta (1698-1771)
Riccardo Broschi (1698-1756)
François Francoeur (1698-1787)
František Jiránek (1698-1778)
Nicola Bonifacio Logroscino (1698-1764)
Gaetano Maria Schiassi (de) (1698-1754)
Jean-Baptiste Forqueray le fils (1699-1782)
Joseph Gibbs (1699-1788)
Johann Adolf Hasse (1699-1783)
Juan Francés de Iribarren (1699-1767)
Jan Zach (1699-1773)
Charles Dollé (fl. 1735-1755; d. after 1755)
Giovanni Giorgi (fl. from 1719; d. 1762)
Mlle Guédon de Presles (c. 1700-1754)
Michel Blavet (1700-1768)
Sebastian Bodinus (1700-1759)
Domenico Dall'Oglio (1700-1764)
João Rodrigues Esteves (1700-1751)
Nicola Fiorenza (after 1700-1764)
Jean-Baptiste Masse (c. 1700–c. 1756)
Giovanni Battista Sammartini (1700-1775)
Johan Agrell (1701-1765)
François Rebel (1701-1775)
Alessandro Besozzi (1702-1775)
Johann Ernst Eberlin (1702-1762)
José de Nebra (1702-1768)
Francisco António de Almeida (1702-1755)
John Frederick Lampe (1703-1751)
Johann Gottlieb Graun (c. 1703-1771)

>>70470007
Stop pretending like you know my beliefs. The entire percentage was an answer to a stupid comment above me. So it's pretty ironic that you lambast me for taking things out of context. Voter turnout has hit a 20 year low. Trump still lost the popular vote by the largest margin ever to probably the worst candidate in modern history in a climate incredibly favorable to rhetoric he employed. There will be a quarter million people at least that protest his inauguration in DC alone. The fact that you think I'm a shill just shows that you're too lazy to ever have your own worldview questioned.

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>>70470168
>he still cannot make a comment without using the exact same format and line as I first used against him
>he is struggling to use reading comprehension
>it's been three responses in a row that he's done this

>>70467421
this

>>70466561
It isn't shit because it's political, it's shit bevause it just sucks.

OP has little grasp as to what "bias" means

>>70470207
Shilling isn't a term only used when people are paid to do it. I was claiming that you were just being dishonest on purpose. Yes anon, pointing to percentages of voters as if it portrays extreme unpopularity when it's a pretty standard percentage is misleading. Whether that is you'e ignorance, stupidity or dishonesty is what I don't know.

This is very straightforward.

>>70470177
>aren't intelligent

this is most of america, brother. you aren't a moderate, i promise you.

>>70470290
I am a moderate, you don't know shit. I hold views from both sides and none of them are extreme.

If you work somewhere that everyone explicitly brands themselves as right wing and left wing using those terms, you are not at a normal place. People might use liberal, conservative, republican, democrat, libertarian, even socialist, or they specifically reference politicians they agree with. Right and left wing is far from the most common descriptor.

>>70467673
I recently found out that it's mastered in such a way you're meant to listen to it with the volume a bit higher than normal. I tried it for the first time yesterday and so many new features of the tracks surfaced.

>>70469656
1+ million of hillary's popular vote are from california.
I bet everyone wants california dictating how the whole country runs.

>>70466561
>Especially in recent times where it's basically all biased toward the left.
I can't think of a single good right wing political song.

>>70466561
political lyrics are usually garbage, dead kennedys get away with writing fun / funny ones
it doesnt effect other aspects of the music though

>>70470366
Coincidentally, it's possible for Illegal immigrants to vote in California and they are issued licenses. Not only that, but Obama went on TV and actively encouraged illegals to vote.

Still for some strange reasons, Dems REFUSE to estimate how many illegals voted, branding it as insane conspiracy, despite the fact that our very president encouraged it. What are they hiding, what's the real number who voted?

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>there are people who still think liberals are leftists even though liberalism is closer to conservatism than socialism

>>70470366
>socially forward-thinking
>energy-conscious, maybe we could finally fucking wean off of the saudis
>location of the most relevant, influential and profitable industry in the world

california isn't just hollywood, btw.

>>70469668
>>70469668
>one state contrbuted to hillary's popular vote
>trusting polling, after how nearly every pre-election polls proclaimed hillary going to win
>media hit job on trump in deep fevor mode, every week, its a different headline

At what point in 4 years of this will you finally question how stupid the leftist media is?

>>70470456
>anti-Saudi people voting for shillbot
>implying we depend on consuming Saudi oil in the first place

Lmao

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>>70469893
>someone doesn't like a song
>they're triggered
Fuck off pleb

>>70470481
>every week, its a different headline
to be fair, a new thing popped up every week

>>70470481
>hillary
>leftist
kek

>>70470481
Don't forget that they literally got caught conspiring against him.

>>70470424
Can you source that entire first line?

>>70470435
It's probably because there really isn't a proper left in the US, so Americans retardedly think liberals are communists/socialists/marxists whatever

It gets even worse when the term SJW comes up

>>70470521
>it's muh real leftism is not going to end in disaster meme

Face it, your gay meme of a political ideology is always going to end in failure, cause your politicians have no moral compass and will sell their country to the Jew (or Arab) with the most money.

>>70467223
difference is one is a well made song and the other isn't.

>>70470456
>socially forward-thinking
Eating gay wedding cake is not socially forward thinking.
>maybe we could finally fucking wean off of the saudis
Wait, didn't Obama veto a bill to drill oil in Alaska?

>>70470560
It's not my fault that you're a low information voter. This is not only basic knowledge, but basic news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQKAz7l5Es4

Opponents expressed concern this could offer suffrage rights to non-citizen residents, since a January 2015 legislation decreed the right of a driver's license to non-citizens.[43]

>>70470501
oh sorry, my bad. when the saudis inevitably jack up oil prices again in a few months because they basically own energy for much of the world, we'll be able to frack rural trump voters into oblivion to make up the difference. that might actually work out in the long run, now that i think about it.

man, energy independence is looking brighter and brighter.

>>70470456
>socially forward-thinking

forward to what?

>>70470585
>Face it, your gay meme of a political ideology is always going to end in failure, cause your politicians have no moral compass and will sell their country to the Jew (or Arab) with the most money.

My ideology doesn't have politicians

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>>70470456
>energy conscious
>wastes money on renewables instead of just doing research for nuclear

>>70470656
Then that means it's super gay meme

>>70470653
wew nice goalpost moving and wild speculation dickbreath

I love hillary now

>>70470701
no u

>>70470704
lol they literally just agreed to cut production. oil WILL go up soon.

>>70470666
i support nuclear fwiw

>>70470655
rural america. it's a shame that a gay kid born in nowhere, kansas has to move to a city to enjoy basic human decency.

I'm done roasting lockstep shillbots

Enjoy the next 8 years cunts, this is all your fault.

Idk guys I liked it instantly. Apart from the lyrics it's so peaceful.

>>70470666
Nuclear energy is kind of a not very practicable idea partially because it depends on rare earth resources which exist in limited amounts, and also because it creates waste products that are not safe to handle for hundreds of years.

Can we all agree that political music I don't agree with is garbage?

>>70470761
Yep, called it. All that matters to Tumblr is the gay agenda. Here a gay, there a gay, everywhere a gay, Old MacDonald had a gay, e-i-e-i...

>>70469778
You just implied that actual American citizens votes screwed up the results lmao how dumb can you POSSIBLY be

>>70470816
great argument, anon, you're really making your viewpoint palatable.

>>70469813
They hated Obama too

>>70470666
>leaning too heavily on nuclear
if the private sector produces nuclear energy for the public then there will need to be some serious regulations and I doubt most conservatives will be for that

>>70470761
>rural america.

what? socially forward thinking means think rural america?

>>70469922
Say it with your chest, we know you mean the Jews

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>>70466672
>Rightards are too stupid to make music

if they are so stupid, why are they president nao??

>>70470816
what do you brainlets think the word agenda means

>>70470858
forward compared* to rural america. anti-regressive.

>>70470783
>it's so rare
>we only have thousands of nuclear bombs

Just shoot it into space, or stick it in a mountain, it's not that hard to deal with waste, we aren't retards. "Green" energy isn't even productive, it's very low energy.

>>70466561
>wahh im an edgy right winger and opposing opinions hurt me
I don't like politics especially politics in music but grow the fuck up.

>>70470885
what does "socially forward thinking" mean though? Where does society move towards?

>>70470456
>big agriculture running the show, water hungry cash crops in a drought prone state
>so much environmental bullshit, no further solution to water issue going forward other than pray for rain
>Bay Area catering full tilt to techies, killing local culture, upping living cost, and driving natives to move else where
>SF breeds corrupt politicians
>federal handouts, federal handouts everywhere
>hollywood
>illegals everywhere, voting in election that affects everyone else
>cities are echo chambers breeding people with small world views

Fuck right off

>>70470889
There's a whole bunch of places running pretty much entirely on renewable energy.

>>70470850
Don't be ridiculous, conservatives aren't retarded. Most past mistakes like Chernobyl and whatever the Japanese one is called, were human mistakes.
>inb4 natural disaster
If they were prepared it wouldn't have fucked up.

>>70470913
>guy who thinks any opposition to Obama at all was unfair and Nazi

>>70466672
Most musicians are leftists on the surface. Its easy to be a deluded libtard when you live in beverly hills. Most of them arent willing to give up their money though. Most of them arent willing to live around poor minorities. Most of them are cool with over charging for their shows. Most of them have accountants that make sure that they are giving the govt the least amount of money they can without going to jail.

>>70470889
>Just shoot it into space
Do you know how hard it is to get something into space

>>70470929
Oh, you know. Random sex with everything that moves, unlimited access to drugs, gays are not only equal to the rest of us, they're actually better than the rest of us. That sort of thing.

>>70470366
So not counting California he only lost by 2 million. That's still a large margin lmao. Keep defending your shitty Zionist puppet president though.

Muslimgauze is pretty good

Inshallah

>>70470942
Sure thing buddy, can you tell me which countries those are? Does it include world powers with 300+ Million.

>>70470979
It's getting easier and easier, thanks to people like Elon Musk.

>>70470929
inclusivity, even if it's disingenuous.

>>70470937
you're making even bigger leaps than me, buddy. you should focus that energy into something more creative. maybe take up screenwriting.

>>70470979
spaceX is making it look pretty easy actually. i wouldn't say it's outside the realm of possibility.

>>70469378
I hope no one really believes this

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>>70469750
>popular vote by over 3 million votes (the most in history for a president), is the most unpopular presidential candidate to win an election since the 19th century, and is the least popular major party nominee in modern history. He's taking office with the lowest approval rating for any non-incumbent president in history, and he's the first Republican President in history not to be endorsed by his predecessors.

and yet you liberals still lost lmao

shows who the real retards are..........

>>70470424
How the fuck is an illegal immigrant going to vote? They don't have US ID's nor are they in the registration database because they cant register. Lmao >actually believing everything you read on infowars even when it defies basic common sense

>>70470937
>big agriculture running the show, water hungry cash crops in a drought prone state

I'll give you a protip about California. It is and always has been an arid region, but the climate there during the 20th century was unusually wet. Unfortunately, we built all of the state's infrastructure over what appears to have been a climactic fluke.

>>70470970
Sounds like you spend a lot of time around around liberals man

>>70471035
>inclusivity
why is this good?

>>70471055
California actually give illegals drivers licenses, so that's an ID. If they can get their hands on social security #, they can register. Don't even act like voter fraud doesn't happen senpai.

>>70471054
Yes, the white spring class are the real retards. They voted for a president who explicitly told him that he will take away their healthcare, welfare, food stamps and disability yet still thought he wouldn't so that. But Hillary likes niggers and that's more important to white morons than their basic human needs like fucking eating and going to the doctor because the white working class are the most illogical, delusional, and neurotic group of people this planet has ever produced.

>>70471076
Because it makes Tumblr feel good and that's all that matters, right? Their feelings.

>>70471076
because prosocial behavior is a cornerstone of humanity. we look out for others because there may be a point where we need them to look out for us, and our species propagates and is better off for it. even if it's self-serving, being nice to people serves a greater purpose.

>>70471084
Man, good thing you knew about all those fake votes. Where did you hear?

>>70466838
A lot of Dylan and Zappa are garbage, and yes the garbage stuff is political.

>>70469750
>He lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes

Subtract all the illegal immigrants, convicted felons, dead people, and people voting multiple times and Trump probably gets an easy 3-4 million majority of the popular vote.

>>70471108
White working class*** not spring class

>>70471091
Voter fraud happens sometimes but not to the extent that infowars is claiming. And it happens on both sides, a lot of trump supporters tried to vote twice and some succeeded.

>>70469691
wow, look at all the convincing arguments you didn't offer.

>>70471112
What's wrong with caring about people's feelings?

>>70466561
No. Many great genres stem from social affairs e.g., blues. I think it's harder for an artist to create a successful song that concerns it's main theme around politics. The best anti-establishment songs are not literally saying "fuck the establishment," rather they work around issues by the listeners interpretation with an obscure lyrical stimulus.

It's all about how the listener relates, and so political music now isn't great because life is pretty damn good. Think about how hip hop has evolved with the decline of racism. In the 80s and 90s, a black guy in the streets could relate to that shit because a lot of cops were actually racist as fuck. Now you just have a bunch of talentless idiots rapping about selling drugs and killing people because people are beginning to realize you can get out of the hood - the argument about police brutality and race relations being shit doesn't hold anymore.

There is always going to be a reason to express political views through music, and some of the greatest music has been made in this context. It's all about expressing the point of view that truly resonates with the public.

>>70469656
>>70466761
>>70467248
>>70466672
>literally pro majority
>"B-b-but we're anti- establishment anon! This music is progressive!
Get fucked degenerates

>>70471108
>because the white working class are the most illogical, delusional, and neurotic group of people this planet has ever produced
Once again, a SJW proves out why the Democrats are kill. :^)

"Oh no, you're all just stupid racist hicks whose opinions don't matter, you need Oprah, Barbra Streisand, and Beyonce to run your life for you."

>>70471129
>>70471139
Seriously, let me know your sources?

>>70469893
>SJWs literally shaking with excitment over calling out trumpfags

Can't wait for a good percentage of the white working class to die from disease, malnutrition and disability under Trump's rule so we'll never have a conservative president again.

>>70471166
>Now you just have a bunch of talentless idiots rapping about selling drugs and killing people

Nah, gangsta rap is dead. Modern rap is all the dumb, foofy art/fashion Kanye kind of stuff.

>>70471169
nobody ITT said this music was anti-establishment. i hope you die in a car wreck tomorrow, you fucking faggot.

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>>70467345
>he doesn't like kids with guns

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>>70466561
The song isnt garbage, but it is definitely not living up to the expectations that most of us were hoping for. If you look at this not from a political viewpoint and just listen and try to enjoy it, you still feel like something is off about this song. For starters its very unconventional and not your average pop song and for this to be the first released track after such a long hiatus, that's a very bold thing to do. But to make it centered around the controversy of the most recent election causes the song to not quite hit its mark. There's something missing as if it was made just for quick exposure,but its almost pretentious, wheres the feeling you get when you hear a song and think "wow"? its not there.
It would still work as one of the last songs on the album, but its not something ill first showcase. But It's only one song and the album's still not out

>>70470929
not him, but its an outdated term that means nothing
originally it would be 'for social change' from what was the status quo at the time and thats no longer a useful description for obvious reasons
>>70470947
In a competitive market some will 'overlook' potential risks of their actions as long as it means greater profits. Its not that they're evil or stupid as much as desperate for an edge. Eventually, some jackass will be running an untidy ship and greatest cost will be to those other than themselves. Plus in the case of a war, a nuclear reactor is a double target for foreign agents since meltdowns are capable of causing great area damage, and they provide mass amounts of power to the public.

>>70471201
Funny, 'cos that's just what's happened since 2009. The middle class is disappearing, workforce participation is at its lowest since the 70s, and the suburbs are being afflicted with a drug epidemic.

>>70467489
I don't give a shit how old this post is, you should feel bad.

>>70471074
I do have liberal friends that i have alot of disagreements with. But most of them are liberals on the surface like i said. They want to spit the rhetoric, but they dont want to give up their time and money for what they say is the "greater good". They think its the responsibility of people who have the nerve and audacity to actually have initiative and takes risks in life.

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>>70469988
>Trump is an elite

Nope.

Elite means in control of the world order, resources, events etc

Basically the thing Trump is trying to smash into bits.

Trump is way more "punk" than any of these millionaire limousine-libreral shithead musicans will ever be.

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>>70471217
>Being this triggered
Wew lad. That's how it is though. Libtards finding any way to angle things to make it look like they're the profound rebels of society. Your political views are literally CNN, you aren't special or profound.

>>70471128
>prosocial behavior is a cornerstone of humanity

only in, more or less, tribal circumstances, in the face of adversity from outsiders.

I listened to Benjamin Clementine's full album today and fucking loved it. Any recommendations for similar stuff, /mu/?

I always find it funny whenever a musician is rumored to be a neonazi they always play "well actually hitler was a very interesting and important figure not that I condone it" card

>>70471175
Obviously they do need someone to run their life for them if they will willingly elect someone who literally told them they won't be able to go to the doctor or get food from the government if they elect him. That's literal stupidity right there. If someone TELLS you his policies will not be good for you and you still elect him over someone whose policies would benefit your family, you are probably a fucking stupid hick who needs someone else to make decisions for you, absolutely.

I mean inner city blacks are gonna be fine Bc they'll find a way to get through this, they've been through worse, rich ppl are gonna be fine. Trump will be the worst president for the white working class in the history of the country. The white working class, in a few days, will face the worst oppression they've ever faced and they were told this. It's their fault so they deserve what's coming to them.

>>70471201
Ironically the 2000's generation is more right winged than /pol/. Prepare for a revival of Fascism.

>>70466672
I'm a centrist and I make ~decent music about being isolated away from people like me; I live in an extremely liberal area and the people suck

>>70471302
Iceage never played this card, but mostly correct

>>70471275
He comes off as a tough talking, average Joe kind of guy, just with more money. But he knows how to speak the working man's language and how to lead them. Hillary and her posse of rich Hollywood buddies didn't feel like real people at all, more like elaborately programmed robots.

>>70466561
the thing is...

this song isn't garbage

it's far off current contemporary pop trends but also coexists peacefully with them. it's lyrically dense and a bit to unpack but pretty damn easy to understand the gist of. and it's constructed in an interesting way. y'all just can't find the meme & you wanted something that was easier to like from ur favorite pop band when u were in high school & you don't know how else to react to a self-conscious political song in 2017. fuck off

>>70471310
/pol/ aren't all that right wing, they are just memers who say nigger a lot and wish they could join the hilter youth for the crisp uniforms and close male friendships.

>>70471307
>Obviously they do need someone to run their life for them if they will willingly elect someone who literally told them they won't be able to go to the doctor

That's very nice because thanks to Obamacare, millions of people have lost their health plans and are forced to sign with this garbage and pay a fine if they don't.

>>70471284
being a special snowflake anti-establishment profound rebel is not something that is or should be relevant to any political discussion

>>70470255
/thread

>>70471302
what?

>>70471310
Lol that's definitely not happening. Fascists don't have the numbers and never will. Get your head out of the clouds before you are massively disappointed.

The irony of Trump winning is that the people who voted for him are gonna be the ones who get fucked over the most by him.

>>70471371
Besides, the Nazis were socialists and Mudslime lovers who got more white people killed and maimed than anything.

>>70471341
Well if he can basically sell trickle down reaganomics to Joe Sixpack he deserves the presidency for being a good salesman

>>70471284
you're making a lot of assumptions, friend.


>>70471289
what happens when the threat changes? what happens when overpopulation mixes with corporate interests and fucks a wide margin of people? i'm not just talking about gay kids, i'm talking about welfare in general.

>>70471343
I dislike that cheap synth pop style from plastic beach and this song is riding on that sound pretty heavy. That standard 808 metallic hit is just cheesy.

>>70471382
And now they won't able to afford a single visit, or have to choose between that and food for the week.

The Tumblr rage ITT is delicious. It's all they have left. They don't have the White House, the Senate, the House, nothing. Soon they won't have the Supreme Court either.

>>70470783
>Nuclear energy is kind of a not very practicable idea partially because it depends on rare earth resources which exist in limited amounts
go actually read about nuclear energy you fucking retard.
I'll give you the tl;dr; we're not running out anytime soon.

>>70466561
if you get triggered by politics in music you're a little pussy right or left

>>70471419
And did you know the middle class significantly expanded under Reagan and poverty rates decreased markedly?

>>70471419
Yeah because taxing every thing to death is the way to go. Thats why NY is such a prosperous place to live with lots of jobs and opportunity. Thats why everyone is moving to NY.

>>70471227
We could just nationalize it, it wouldn't be too far out. Either way, nuclear energy, isn't really that much of competitive market, and there will be oversight.

>>70471371
>close male friendships.

This is probably the reason why so many young males seek a return to traditional society. Whether people can articulate these feelings or not, it's a desire for people to have a community that has been targeted for destruction by elites. It's not surprising people had a vehement reaction to their communities being swamped by foreigners and it's not surprising many hip city liberals didn't notice, since they are used to the atomized society they are a part of.

>>70471442
Fun fact: High health care costs have much to do with the extreme overregulation placed on the health care industry

>>70470850
we actually had nuclear plants at one time, so the regulations already exist in some sense. and even if they didn't, if a nuclear plant explodes the people working there will be the first to go.

so put simply, Nuclear is plenty safe already.

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>>70471385
>Being an sjw snowflake is literally the basis of liberal musician's political views

>>70471382
obamacare isn't that great, i agree. but it's the best thing next to universal healthcare that we'll ever get. i hope you enjoy watching your parents panic when their insurers drop them when they go for their physical later this year.

>>70471493
>and it's not surprising many hip city liberals didn't notice, since they are used to the atomized society they are a part of

Urban areas always breed weak, effeminate people. That's why gays hang out in big cities.

>>70466561
Who gives a shit? You really can't enjoy music because the lyrics espouse a view orthogonal to your own? Would you turn your back on a composer after discovering the inspiration for a piece offends your sensibilities? It's art, dude -- it's not there to pat you on the back.

Oh hey, Sorry /pol/, I was looking for /mu/ and it seems that I accidentally stumbled towards you guys. I'll leave you to it now

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>>70471284
>Your political views are literally CNN, you aren't special or profound.

These dumbfuck musicians LITERALLY are the establishment.

Do you think the billionaire Hillary donaters that run these record labels would allow them to say anything against the establishment?

NOT A FUCKING CHANCE M8.

These fuckers are the establishment lackeys.

>>70471501
>sjw snowflake
>as opposed to a "moderate" republican snowflake

half of this thread is /pol/ saying "i don't love trump either, but..." and then claiming to have unique personal politics.

can we all just agree that everyone ITT is retarded?

>>70471502
>obamacare isn't that great

I'll say.

>>70471502
boo hoo faggot, my families insurance is garbage, and it's gotten worse under Obamacare. Fuck you! You don't give a shit about people, listen to how you hope his family panics after losing insurance, you are a disgusting worthless human being.

>>70471468
And the national debt as well

And Clinton decreased the poverty rate by twice the percentage Reagan did

>>70471552
i already said i don't love obamacare. but at least your family was insured. your premiums and coverage won't get fixed because insurance companies don't care about you or your family. at least your kind will be culled and can't vote against your best interests anymore. it'll be less frustrating for the rest of us ;)

>>70471552
Yeh but his college professor told him all about univewsaw hewth cawe and gwobow waaawming.

>>70471552
y'all cheer when black people get killed by cops so pls get off the Clydesdale

How is 4chan simultaneously so conservative and while still latching on to anti-normie board culture and >tfw no gf circlejerks?

>>70471589
>And the national debt as well

Guess who controlled Congress the whole time? It wasn't Republicans.

>>70471589
>And Clinton decreased the poverty rate by twice the percentage Reagan did

Guess who did control Congress after 1994? Not Democrats.

>>70471596
Oh my god are we really stooping to climate change denial?

>>70471613
4chan isn't conservative retard, they're republican at best

>>70471548
>projects shit points
>"C'mon goys let's just fugget about all this!"
>>70471546
>Obama is still president
>Literally still part of the 8 years of liberalism
>"OOOHHH NOW THEY'RE THE ESTABLISHMENT, LET'S JUMP OVER TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY HURRY ANON BEFORE PRE-TEENS LOSE ATTENTION!"

>>70466561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

>>70471594
>but at least your family was insured

This is a troll, right?

>>70471613
teenage rebels

>>70471596
Why do you say that like you don't believe in global warming?

And most first world countries have public healthcare

>>70471626
Nobody's denying climate change. Natural process that's been going on for millions of years.

>>70467489
worst album of the year

>>70471664
>And most first world countries have public healthcare
As do we. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. Also any state is free to enact socialized health care if they wish. Massachusetts and Hawaii have it.

>>70471594
>insurance gets worse
>haha like thanks Obama lol couldn't do it without you

NIGGER

>>70471604
Fuck you, you don't know me

It's a good song, it's just got a shite video

Why do Gorillaz fanfucks keep expecting Demon Days 2.0, have they just not paid attention to what Damon's been putting out since The Fall?

i like my free healthcare
glad i don't live in the usa
a lot of my american friends don't have insurance, even some of the ones i would consider wealthy/middle class
that seems weird to me, they could get hit by a car or get cancer and end up with bills in the millions
that will literally never happen to me

>>70471671
Ok but denying global warming is just stupid. As stupid as denying evolution, actually worse because it's way more dangerous.

humanity is entirely fucked once the Arctic melts completely Bc of latent heat of change but yeah we have no reason to worry about it

>>70471604
Please tell black people to stop committing crimes. There are consequences for bad behavior.

>>70471671
we still contribute, its still going on, and its still going to fuck us up so we still need solutions

>>70471596
nice projection, but i actually work in healthcare, so it's kind of my business. i already see people falling through the cracks in our current system. it's going to be unreal when all of these people get their insurance taken from them.

>>70471651
not at all. know what's worse than paying a premium? not being insured and being put into crippling debt over a stroke or some gay shit. what's even worse than that is multitudes of people being put into crippling debt and defaulting so that the state eats the cost.

>>70471692
insurance got worse because of the free market you fellate. i already said i'd prefer universal so that even insufferable faggots like you can be insured. but for the time being, it's the best thing we have. because insurers don't want to pay for chronic illnesses.

>>70471671
Seems to be going a lot faster ever since we started burning things tho

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>>70471708
oh no anon the ice caps are gone just like that goy said!

>>70466561
that song was garbage because of the music not because of the politics.

>>70471708
Didn't we have no ice caps during dinosaur times? Millions of years with tropical conditions planet-wide, all long before Henry Ford invented the Model T.

>>70471732
>universal healthcare
>in a country with 300+ million people
>with millions of illegal leeches
>that actively encourages people to suck on state teat
>inb4 they are leeches

>>70471613
two words: teenage losers. They hate progressivism because they associate it with the kids that bullied them in high school.

>>70471739
The event of the internal combustion engine coincides with the event of reliable temperature measurements. We have no reliable records for climate prior to the late 19th century.

>>70471755
something tells me that entire ice caps aren't supposed to disappear over the course of a mere century.

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Just a reminder that this was the left's best attempt. The poster album for edgy teens and commercialism in music. That was your best attempt.

>>70471774
I'm pretty sure the people who are attracted to SJW ideologies are beta males like Christgau who got their ass kicked in high school.

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>>70469656
You do realize that multiple presidents have lost the popular vote in the past (including Obongo.)

The only reason why people are using this "popular vote" argument is because of liberal faggots freaking out over Trump for some reason. Why didn't anyone question the electoral college when the black guy lost the vote?

The polar ice caps may actually be a remnant of the Pleistocene Ice Age that have been in retreat for the last 10,000 years.

>>70471773
>actively encourages people to suck on state teat

if it would get people to go get regular check-ups, labwork, etc., then yeah. i'd encourage the fuck out of that. preventative healthcare. because it's way more expensive in the long run to treat diabetes, COPD, stroke, amputation, obesity, etc. when it all hits you at once later in life.

>>70471849
>if it would get people to go get regular check-ups, labwork, etc., then yeah. i'd encourage the fuck out of that. preventative healthcare

Except that's not what happens. Instead you have people running to the doctor for every last two bit problem. Health care is a finite resource and it needs to be conserved for actual medical emergencies, not fake conditions like having a gender identity crisis.

>>70471843
i have a feeling trump knows very well that humans are accelerating warming, and aims to let his kids go full lex luthor and develop the usa's new coastline

>>70471780
We can check the historical concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere though and hey it seems to have been getting a lot higher ever since we started burning things.

i.e. to the point where the greenhouse effect is starting to throw things off

>>70471831
Against McCain or the other one?

>>70471849
You're too naive to have any say in political matters. I recommend you visit >>>/pol/ to get up to speed.

>>70471885
>Health care is a finite resource and it needs to be conserved for actual medical emergencies
you act as if we have a finite amount of universal fix your condition pills and they're not being used on the most destructive conditions
>fake conditions like having a gender identity crisis
fake in what sense

>>70471939
Obongo "lost" in the primaries to Hillary who had more votes.

>>70471885
Hahahahaha

Americans are so fucking fat and stupid

>>70471885
>every last two bit problem

you're assuming a lot right now. i'd imagine most prudent and reasonable people wouldn't go to the doctor for every little issue they have. and you're acting as if crazy hypochondriacs aren't already clogging up our ER waiting rooms. you have no idea what you're talking about. even if people are just going in for a migraine, wouldn't it be worth it on the off chance that it's a CVA or some shit?

>gender identity crisis

i see where this is going

>>70471950
no thanks, i operate in reality.

>>70466672
nah i'm a communist but death in june is good

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>>70471959
>fake in what sense

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>>70472007

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>>70471992
>>70471548
>sjw's being triggered over people assuming

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>>70472070

>>70472007
>>70472080
>>70472070
>Samefagging with shitty memes

Slit your wrists, duder

>>70472080
years from now you will look back on how you were and hate yourself for it. i'm embarrassed for you.

>>70472168
>>70472159
Are you anons assuming my IP? But it's (current year)!

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>>70472141
shit, I dont save smug reaction pictures very often so you just might out debate me...

love it when music is about something more interesting than who the singer wants to fuck or whatever. political music, when it's smartly written, can be the best thing. all art is inherently political- you can't really have apolitical art no matter how you try- so having art that smartly considers its political message is fantastic and a welcome change.

this song is dope

>>70472168
>>70472159
>>70472227
>Projecting this hard
Wow, it's almost like you're all liberal

>>70471992
>and you're acting as if crazy hypochondriacs aren't already clogging up our ER waiting rooms

Medicare/cade are not allowed to refuse treatment for any reason.

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>>70472159
>>70472227

>>70466672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQNcTYVlcEg

>>70471900
And we can check what the CO2 level was in 1600? No.

>>70472320
and?

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>>70472257
>all art is inherently political

>>70471732
>nice projection, but i actually work in healthcare

Making a good business on sex change operations, no?

>>70472358
it's true! because all art is speech, and all speech is inherently political

you can't make a statement that isn't a political statement

>>70472341
p sure we can through arctic ice.

>>70472350
You were wondering why people are clogging up the ERs?

>>70472379
"i love you."

>>70472341
You sound like every idiot on Facebook who comments on news posts.

>>70472385
That can only tell you CO2 concentrations in one small part of the globe, which in any case isn't inhabited by humans.

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>>70472358
If you don't think this is political you are a pleb

>>70472364
You really have spent too much time on 4chan if that is the first thing you associate with healthcare.

>>70472257
best post itt

although i'd argue that a finely written song about someone you want to fuck can be just as beautiful as a finely written political song. case in point: the undertones - teenage kicks

During the Middle Ages, Europe was a lot warmer than today, in fact so much that they had wineries as far north as England. There weren't any cars around in the 1300s.

>>70472379
yeah, we've all heard this argument before. it's nonsensical reductivism. is ordering a ham sandwich a political statement? when you order a ham sandwich you're tacitly endorsing the status quo, right? or maybe it's a faith statement because you're expressing your beliefs about ham sandwiches. or maybe it's a complex intersectional genderqueer treatise? sorry, i'm a few years out of my freshman seminars so i can't keep all this straight.

>>70472389
oh, i'm not wondering at all. i'm aware of the conditions in hospitals. healthcare needs an overhaul in general, especially regarding infrastructure and especially in less-developed areas.

>>70472414
lol

>>70466561
masterpiece

Someone has a heart attack? Fine. Justifiable cause to see a doctor. Someone has cancer? Fine. Someone thinks they're a man trapped in a woman's body? No. Slut who can't keep her legs closed needs an abortion? No.

>>70472449
>is ordering a ham sandwich a political statement
A vegan would say so.

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>>70472514
Or a Muslim.

>>70472449
never said it was a deep political statement. never said it was a political statement that means much. but yeah, in a thousand ways, ordering a ham sandwich is political

>>70472501
i'm so glad i can have you deciding who lives and dies

>>70472554
political acts are classified as such by their intent, not their interpretation. an action can be politicized, but be totally apolitical in its execution.

>>70472579
I didn't know having a gender identity crisis is a matter of life and death.

>>70472600
intent means nothing! after i say words i don't own them anymore. what i meant to say by them has no bearing. it's all, 100%, about what people hear and interpret. authorial intent is garbage and means nothing

>>70472614
>b-but they kill themselves

sounds like the number 1 killer of trannies is trannies.

>>70471780
Look up Antarctic ice drilling, we have a fairly good gauge for atmospheric conditions a long way back.

>>70472627
nah, that would be murder. nice try though?

>>70472624
then i'm not culpable for any political meaning ascribed to my words after i've said them.

>>70472440
There are many theories on what caused the Little Iceage. However at the Globe saw only mere fluctuations in overall temperature, .03 degrees Celsius to be clear.

That's half of what we're at now. Not to mention that accrued over a period of 400 years. The spike in temperatures over that past century, even decade has been unprecedented.

>>70472664
your job is to make sure you speak clearly and cleanly and make sure your words can't be misinterpreted as something they aren't

which is, like, rule one of any communication

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>>70470107
all those literally whos would be probably liberal if they were alive today

>>70470593
because Kids with Guns was made to sell, and this song was specifically made for Trump. It most likely wont even be on the album

>>70472718
arctic ice dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>70472688
but by your standards the act of buying a ham sandwich is political merely because a muslim or vegan could find it offensive. unless every one of your actions is accompanied by a statement expressly de-politicizing whatever you've done, you're fucked.

>>70472624
what a frustratingly incomplete expression of post structuralism.
>it's all, 100%, about what people hear and interpret
so poorly formulated

>>70472794
i'm on an anonymous music board i ain't writin no thesis or nothin

>>70472767
well, that's all for you to judge for yourself! a vegan can disagree wholeheartedly with my purchasing decisions and i can choose whether or not to care about it. it, like most things, is a big grey area

>>70472846
>big grey area

yeah, no shit.

where did you get this bogus pet theory so i can avoid it at all costs?

>>70472846
>i'm on an anonymous music board i ain't writin no thesis or nothin
no doubt, but i'm sure 'all art is political' and 'all speech is inherently political' felt really great to type out, especially since you haven't put any thought into it

>>70470365
I always listen to this loud anyway. Certainly do need higher end system to get out the intricacies. I read in an interview that she didn't press it to vinyl as it wouldn't put out the same bass response or something similar. As pretentious as it can sound, the album speaks for itself mixing wise I think.

*these are personal opinions are I can accept that much of it is subjective.

>>70472869
who's your favorite author, i got it from them

>>70472878
typing actually feels horrible, i'm trying to fill the growing void inside my stomach by putting ideas out there but it only gets bigger and bigger, please help, soon i don't even know if i'll be able to call myself human anymore

>>70470107
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>>70470174
>>70470203
>can't name a single person alive today
if they were so great, how come they died? hmm?

>>70470396
Yeah this desu, can anyone link any that don't relate to racism, denial of problems privileged (albeit I admit it isn't be all and end all) or conservative love? Maybe songs where free market and neo liberal economics worked well? I'm genuinely interested. Maybe country I guess? They sing about hard work and from my understanding, don't get a lot of government support. Some might argue though that it isn't really right wing.

>>70471226
it probably wont be on the album like Rockit and Stop the Dams werent on Demon Days.

>>70471204
Rap is still good because they know what to rap about. Its the posers who think gansta rap is still alive yet only rap about dumb shit

>>70470816
Ugh. Lol

>>70473083
i imagined that post was made by a cop on a night off

>>70471008
Different poster; you aren't wrong given the current context. However early London ran on gas lamps and it was incredibly expensive and seen as a silly Victorian meme and sentiments such as 'lol gas and power could never power nations with 50 million people, stick to candles you libertarian post Victorian scum'.

Like another poster said, thanks to people like Elon Musk, renewables will take over once technology gets better. A lot of countries are already more than half way there.

I see your point, albeit it's a such silly to say renewables are pointless because they don't work now. I hope if you have kids they have a cool future with less pollution so we can keep agriculture and nice holidays etc etc.

Hope your day is going well.