/prod/ - Music Production General

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I've been scratching my head for hours over this.
Which of these 2 choruses should I go for?

Are any of them too busy or too barebones?

https://clyp.it/figsyq2m

https://clyp.it/rvk0twst

This is a wip I've been working on a little. Going for a trappy vibe without being full on trap. Can't tell if I like it or not https://clyp.it/l2srdubp?token=ee18576db2b5bfdb1a5145e7679bd4f8
>>70435754
I like the second one a little more. It might be too barebones, but without the rest of the track there's no way telling how well it fits

where do you guys get your samples?

>>70435895
Typically it's from songs I already like and know. I just try to see if I can get the part I want out of there

>>70435895
wherever i can get them for free really

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>>70435831
Thanks for the feedback. I'll go with the second choice then.
Do you think I should go for a more enthusiastic delivery vocal wise? I feel like if I add much more to it (whether production- or vocalwise), it'll drown out the melody of the distorted keys, which I want to be the mainpoint of the chorus.

https://clyp.it/cm2czdeh
Here's the leadup to the song so you can hear what it sounds like before the chorus. Imagine rap vocals from the beginning to the chorus.

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I'm loving the screams, trap chants the dog barks. You use samples well.
The song starts a little rough though, try easing into it. I'm not too big on the lead synth either. It has too much high end, so you might wanna try filtering it more or removing some distortion. Change out the snare too. It sounds a little too stock, ya know?

>>70436223
Yeah, I'm def working on tweaking the synth sounds and the snares. The snares were more placeholder than anything. It also might be bc of the chants layered on top of them. Going to try to use some nice tape saturated drums I have

With that buildup the chorus is great. And keep the vocals like they are.

I have a question for you guys:

List different production parts and what percentage of your time goes to every one of them for one song. E.g.

>sound design - 10%
>composition - 40%
>mixing - 20%
...

You can do it in hours instead of % too. I'm really interested on which part you spend most of your time.

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>tfw all DAWs are shit for composing xenharmonic music

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>>70436544
>xenharmonic music

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>>70436544
I knew I wasn't the only one going full autistic with Excel.

>>70435643
That LeBron James Sprite commercial is pretty funny.

>>70436687
>>70436544
Autism. Consider haiku.

>>70436706
I think it works pretty damn good for what I'm going for.

I created this verse with Excel, any thoughts?

https://clyp.it/nm0fyzfw

>>70435754
first one better

>>70435895
youtube

first time recording vocals

and first hook/verse i wrote

quality is shit, i recorded it on my macbooks built in mic lmfao

whatchu dudes think

https://clyp.it/pdkjdmim

>>70436784
make future garage or smt not this top 40 shit

https://clyp.it/32zdqjh4

hello boys. any tips or feedback production etc?

been mixing this one for so long that i don't know if it's good or not anymore

>>70437137
traaaaaash

>>70435643


I'm trying to make an EDM trapstep track , the Drop Lead is killing me . I need help please ..

https://clyp.it/2inwcju1


Halp.

>>70437137
>https://clyp.it/32zdqjh4

Mix-wise it sounds good .
Composition-wise , Don't have a clue what you're trying to do here.

>>70436874
Why do you think so?

>>70436985
>https://clyp.it/pdkjdmim

Atleast you're on beat.

>>70437218
I think that lead would work if you put it in some sort of room, so it isn't that isolated and up front

>>70437218

Also , do the vocals sound good ?

>>70437274
haha

i know its sloppy as fuck but ya gotta start somewhere ya feel

i got a mic comin in the mail so the quality will get better

can you tell me whats bad about it?

>>70437118
But I hate those genres.

>>70437349

Ignoring the really bad recording quality , the performance sounds too robotic.

>>70437172
very useful feedback thank you very much :)

>>70437441
yea

i see what you mean

thanks ill work on that

>>70436784
sounds like a whole lot of digital clipping going on

>>70436521
Notice me baka desu suiseiseki

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>>70436521
sound design 50%
composition 50%
Mixing - 10000000000%

I fucking hate mixing . so fucking much . I'm thinking of sending my track to a professional.

>>70435754

I think it's maybe because I am a normalfag

But I don't hear chorus material in either.

>>70437588
I got some free time tonight, post your stuff and I might give a shot at mixing it if I like it and if you want

>>70437545
True, I'm not going for pristine production..

Been mixing this track the last couple of days. I'm only still learning to mix, but I think it sounds good now?

https://clyp.it/kvkrgmsx

>>70438004
You don't need to slap an EQ or compressor on every channel or drench your mix in reverb to not clip your faders.

Just gain stage your tracks and it will sound ten times better. Digital clipping is awful sounding.

>>70438100
the snare/clap thing sounds out of place
to mono reverby so it's way behind all the other stuff and rhytmically it's too off for my taste - almost every hit is early, not only by a slight 'non-mechanic' margin but so that it really destroys the groove
the rest of the mix sounds pretty balanced, though. I like it

>>70438226
it's two different clap samples stacked. I was going for that off-beat groove, is it too much?

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How do you get good at hearing compression?

How do you become familiar how different types of compressor affect the sound?

Whenever I read about compressors I always hear stuff like 'It distorts the sound in a pleasing way" and I don't hear this distortion - they weren't talking about hardware either.

>>70438293
I think it's too much, especially because it's early
laid-back stuff isn't as noticeable most of the times, but a backbeat that pulls forward all the time is kind of annoying
I'd tone it down a tad

>>70437137
nice loopies

>>70436784
work on the kick levels, bit too loud

>>70437218
so you sidechain your kick?

>>70438416
*do

>>70437349
work on your flow as well

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>>70438353
of course there's extra distortion in a lot of plugins that simulate their analog ancestors' characteristics, but even the cleanest of digital compressors eventually distorts because of the nature of compressors itself: if your attack and release time is close to the time your affected wavelenght's cycle then you're 'shaping' and therefore distorting each cycle and so creating overtones - this happens a lot with bass instruments' fundamental regions and can totally be a desired effect
the compressor's characteristic knee curve and attack/release characteristics obviously play a huge role in how these kind of distortion sounds

to the rest of the question:
read about the fundamental differences of the old but gold compressor types (such as vca, opto, vari-mu, ...) and try to find plugin examples you can experiment with so you get hands on experience why each is useful for what kind of tasks and suck for some others

>>70438100
not bad, kicks too quiet in the mix

>>70438416

Yeah . I use Nicky romero's kickstart.

>>70436985
The instrumental is alright. You're an okay producer, assuming you made the instrumental. I would turn down the drums especially the hi hats and turn up the synths and piano and add some more changeups.

Don't think your voice is good to be honest. I would hook up with some friends who have better vocals than you but don't produce.

>>70438544
what software do you produce on?

>>70438593

FL studio 12 producer edition.

>>70437545
>>70438154
Thanks about the advice, it's weird though, since none of my faders is actually clipping, I'm just over compressing everything.
>>70438402
First time layering two kicks, I'll check it again, thanks.

>>70438684
yh i can hear those two kicks clashing to fuck, maybe not the best fit, or eq them both to fit together?

>>70438474
I knew that very short attack/release on compressors caused distortion but I've never heard it be pleasing, is there some trick to it?

>>70438623
maybe try some slate digital compressors/sidechain as they are really good, your nicky Romero one is trash sorry...

Sup /prod/,

what is a good general purpose microphone for recording (mostly vocals)? I have a few synths/keyboards and a nice drum machine, but what I feel like I need to start recording is the microphone and interface.

Any recommendations? Should I just look on craigslist to find something in my budget, which is ~$200??

>>70438749
totally depends on your signal and the slope of the attack and release if the results are pleasing and most importantly beneficial for your mix
a variable curve on the attack like on the el arousor makes this really easy, though. that compressor can (just like the 'real' el8x) do crazy short attack times without sounding like ass

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Daily reminder that Dr Drum is the best DAW out there.
https://youtu.be/nbam7WieK-k

>>70438767
rode nt1a
audio technica 2035
aston origin

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>>70438820
>Dr Drum
>not DubTurbo
fucking pleb

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>>70438684
>Thanks about the advice, it's weird though, since none of my faders is actually clipping, I'm just over compressing everything.
Check your plugins. Gain staging is a bit different than just checking the track fader. You might be clipping your plugins.

Basically, you want your signal to hit your plugins around -18dbfs, which is equivalent to 0dbvu. See in pic related how it says -18 under "cal"? That means this volume meter is calibrated for 0dbvu to be equivalent to -18dbfs, which is the standard. 0dbvu (-18dbfs) is nominal signal level.

Basically, your digital meter in your daw always shows you dbfs. Pic related is a great plugin that's only ten bucks and shows dbvu, but you can download something like FreeG for free and insert it as the first plugin in the chain to check your levels. You'd want the main signal before all plugins to hover around -18dbfs, because most plugins are modeled on analogue algorithms which are designed to handle signals optimally around -18dbfs.

The thing that tricks people is that let's say you have the gain at the beginning of your track around -3dbfs (way too hot), and then it goes through compression, eq, saturation...etc, and you might see "oh I'm clipping the track fader", and so you turn it down. Let's say you turn it down to a nice level, around -18dbfs. But the thing is, while your track is now "not clipping" overall, your plugins are still clipping internally, adding noise and distortion that adds up over many tracks.

I would insert a trim plugin (freeG is a good one) at the beginning of your tracks and see where your meters are hitting.

>>70438732
It's the same kick actually, do you think there are pahsing issues? I'll try some eq.

>>70438859
of course duplicating the same sample with a time offset does nothing but comb filtering

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tell me what u think pls no bully


https://clyp.it/04pjss5l

>>70438811
>arousor

The distressor emu? Isn't that UAD only?

Also how come I never hear electronic producers recommend distressors, but rock producers always do?

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>>70438826
so I should get a condensor microphone?
I just remembered I will also be using it for my double bass

>>70438945
no, it's a native plugin for all formats
the el8x is an amazing universal tool and obviously just as great for electronic music, but since they're pretty damn expensive I don't think many producers even consider stuff like that for their private studios

>>70438995
yes
cardioid condensor close to a f-hole of a double bass can be pretty amazing

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>>70439024
I checked craigslist and some pawn shop nearby has the AT2035 for only $70 which seems like a good deal.

I am going to need to buy an interface for this microphone right? Any recommendations for one?

>>70439322
the focusrite scarlet line is universally praised as good bang/buck, make sure to look for the improved 2nd gen, though

>>70435643
Honest question: Is the deadmau5 masterclass worth it? Not in terms of entertainment but information value and teaching.

>>70439542

Mau5 is a certified sound engineer . He knows a ton of shit about producing even though sometimes he's stuck up his own ass.

Give it a try , you'll learn alot of shit about EQ compressing and mixing.

>>70438927
I like the drum break, but it completely overshadows everything else in the song for the first two minutes. I feel like I'm listening to a drum sample with some white noise and can barely focus on anything else. I think you cut off all the high end for the synths and piano sample so all the high end I'm hearing is from the hi hats in the break. I was waiting for you to change the EQ and let the instruments come through at some point so that it wasn't so flat.

I started to really love it near the end when you introduced more sounds, but it takes so long to get to that point I almost stopped listening. Overall pretty good but just make sure there's more things happening than just the drums at the beginning.

>>70439542
From what I've heard, no.

how do I become Basic Channel?

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cant wait to get off my tracker's ratio warning so i can turn the internet off and maximize productivity

https://clyp.it/t3lepxpv

braaaaaaap

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working on a silly japanese/house/pcmusic type ep...

https://clyp.it/10raqgjf

would love some feedback. imo one of the better produced things i've done.

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r8 my extratone track /mu/stards

https://clyp.it/kibjyxu2

Quick question:

I'm recording on live 9 through an old MOTU traveler. Recording works fine, but when I go back to listen to what I recorded, I will get a high pitched squeal that interrupts the playback for a minute or so. This makes recording over multiple tracks almost impossible. After some reading, it sounds like this is a common issue with MOTUs

Do you know any way to make live 9 input through the MOTU but output to the PC's headphone out? That way I don't have to deal with the MOTU's shitty headphone output.

>>70441076
add distortion and call yourself an experimental noise folk project

>>70441116
as kinda great as that sounds, that still doesn't help me record.

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https://clyp.it/g2gkn1hz

I just started producing (hiphop/trap beats), I was hoping you guys could tell me whats good/bad/needs fixing.

I use FL studio 12

>>70441045
>https://clyp.it/kibjyxu2
wat genre is this? either way make the bass sounds less loud

>>70441257
sounds pretty good, what percentage of it is samples/presets? honestly i think its fine as is.

>>70441391
it's all me baby, just the rising sound at the end is a sample

>>70441455
ah cool, just wondering since you said you just started

https://clyp.it/wvamncwj

been working on this for a while

>>70438856
This is solid advice, thanks again, I'm checking freeG right now, might post the finished track afterwards.

>>70441076
pls help

>>70441507
i've been doing it for like a month and a half or something

>>70441076
>input through the MOTU but output to the PC's headphone out
nope, can only initialize one driver at ASIO
you can totally plug a set of speakers or another headphone amp to the motu's other outputs though

>>70442690
fuuuuuck

>>70442835
>>70442690
thanks for the response, tho. maybe the other outputs won't suck, but i'm kinda doubtful.

how long does it take to go from total beginner to making decent work

Sorry for potentially ruining someone's day, but I have to share this comment from one YT video:


I moved to Hollywood from the Midwest in the mid-80s, and got a rather harsh lesson that I'd like to share with you and your viewers.

I'm a drummer, well-rounded musician, and songwriter. I'm one of those guys who went to college for it. One of my many approaches was to be a songwriter for someone who has charisma and an actual chance at being a star. I met a woman who seemed to have what it takes, and she said that I should meet her producer, because she would love to work with me.

We drive to this guy's mansion in the Hollywood hills. It's a huge place. His servant answered the door and brought us in to his quarters. She introduced me, and there was something odd about him. He started off by welcoming me there, and was showing me a Prospectus he had for her album. Each sheet detailed a song, which "cost" anywhere from $90,000 to $120,000 to produce.

He then decided to give me a tour of his mansion. At that point, I felt that maybe I was wrong about him.

We are walking along this catwalk, and down below us is a room with sunken wood floors. There is a huge mixing board. On the left is a young kid hunched over a drum machine, and on the right is a kid working on a keyboard.

>to be continued

>>70443032
>continued


"You see that guy on the left? He makes catchy drum beats for me all day long. I pay him $9 per hour and he does this for 8 hours per day. And that guy on the right? He makes bass lines, loops, melodies, and whatever else I want, for $9 per hour."

Then he suddenly turned my direction and stared at me with great contempt. His voice changed.

"I DON'T CARE IF YOUR NAME IS LUDWIG VON FUCKING BEETHOVEN! HOLLYWOOD DOES NOT NEED YOU! NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY MANSION!!"

He grabs the singer by the arm, pulls her into this room, and slams the door. It took me 10 minutes to find my way out, and then I had to walk out of the Hollywood hills [no sidewalks and windy roads] for almost two miles before I could find a bus stop.

I kept on, playing in bands as a guitarist, bassist, keyboardist, and drummer. It has always been about fun and creativity ever since that day. I've been working with a band called Noodle Muffin for the past 14 years, and wouldn't have it any other way.

>>70442884
I'm positive they won't, since it doesn't sound like a software problem if the inputs are fine and so it's most likely just a single pair of faulty D/A in that output channel or even the headphone amp itself

>>70443092
well, if i run my phones through either of the main the line outs, i still get the same problem. don't have anything to try s/pdif or ADAT, so i guess i'll try and work something out.

>>70441257
Work on your percussion to make it more "umpredictable", but that's pretty good for a beginner. Mastering is still an enigma for me so I advise you to learn it as soon as you can

>>70440768
This is good, I just think the VSTs are still too plastic sounding, you know? Also the vocals overlay sound confusing at times. Other than that I think it's very creative

>>70440768
cute

>>70438558
thanks, yea i made the instrumental.


nah ima keep singing

i just started making making music a month and a half ago, i practice a lot ill get better ;)

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https://clyp.it/cndpnjxw
>How am I doing?

>>70436985
Reminds me of the Pet Shop Boys

messing around with izotope iris
https://clyp.it/cu5ugppd

>>70445144
this sounds clean and professional

is there anyone who has used both FL studio and ableton? i use ableton but i'm not sure if it really fits my style. i have seen videos of people working with FL studio and it seems easy to use. i rarely to never use session view, i think more linearly and don't really find it all that helpful. i have a mac but i have an extra windows computer sitting around somewhere that i can probably start back up to run FL

>>70445662
Thanks! As someone who struggles with mastering, that makes me happy lol.

What's iris like? You definitely have an interesting sound there, but I think you need to boost it and filter out some lows and noise

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>>70445773
Try bitwig

>>70436521
Composition - 60%
Mixing - 30%
Sound Design - 10%

>>70443032
>>70443056

Nice pasta.

>>70445867
>What's iris like?
i just started using it, honestly seems really fuckin cool so far. you can load in any of your own samples and choose which frequencies you want, you can layer 4 different samples, and you have 4 LFOs and 4 envelopes that you can use to modulate pretty much any parameter

>>70445773
Just use Reaper. It's the best DAW and their website has tons of free video tutorials by Kenny Gioia, who is an excellent teacher and professional mix engineer (he mixed Sex and Candy and Crush, as far as his #1's go). It's also only $60 (with an unlimited free trial if you don't want to pay) and can run 32 or 64 bit plugs natively with built in bridging. It's infinitely customizable and allows you to create macro actions where you can string commands together and do many things with one customizable keystroke or mouseclick. Even the context sensitive menus are editable and you can literally make your workflow light speed.

Also, far and away the most CPU efficient DAW. Way, way more efficient with plugins than Ableton. Way better mixer, way better recording system (takes rule), and good timestretching algorithm (Ableton's is slightly better but reaper's no slouch). Ableton is better with midi but not by much.

The only thing about Reaper (imo) is that the mouse behavior is retarded on default with the scroll wheel zooming in the arrangement view but you can customize it and change all the mouse behavior so it literally fits itself to your preferences.

I use Ableton for some midi stuff and Reaper for everything else. If I had to scrap Ableton I wouldn't miss it.

>>70446383
thanks! i will check it out

>>70435991
where can you get em for free?

>>70442994
that depends on the genre, and also where you're beginning from if that makes sense. Like, do you have training in some sort of instrument, or are you learning an instrument alongside producing?

>>70435895
i make my own samples

>>70446768
99sounds and computer music magazine have free samples that are great quality

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am i trash?

https://soundcloud.com/zackridgeholder/enabler

>>70438927
>https://clyp.it/04pjss5l
I honestly like it a lot. I've always wanted to learn how to make music like this but have no clue on approaching it. What DAW do you use?

>>70446857
Thanks man. Appreciate it

>>70446892
this isnt bad imo but everything is mixed too loud and idk what to focus on. i also rly dislike that generic trap preset

where do you guys learn how to mix and master? Someone recommended me a slew of fast tutorials that are not that good. I use FL

>>70447099
for mixing, general rule of thumb is to try and stay under -6dB before the master.

you should go with what sounds good to you, and you almost never want to mix things solo, hearing how sounds work in a full mix is much, much more important.

for mastering i use ozone 7, learnt how to use it from some random ozone 5 tutorial.

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Are MBPs worth it for production? The 2012 model for $960 doesn't seem to steep of a price with the stuff it comes with and the fact that it can be upgraded. Also Logic Pro doesn't seem too bad

>>70447188
I'm sorry, maybe I'm biased because I don't like apple, but paying a thousand dollars for a 2012 model laptop seems borderline retarded.

can someone give me examples of pop musicians that sample extensively, esp ones that use samples as focus of their songs (not shibuya kei tho)

>>70447181
thanks for the suggestion. I am very clueless to mixing and mastering in general

I'm content with the composition and everything else, but could someone tell me how my mixing is on this? After I've spent too long with a track, I feel like I lose my sense of what sounds good.
https://clyp.it/1nioseqg

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Please rate my WIP...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly2ooyW-O94&feature=youtu.be&t=66s

>>70447816
>https://clyp.it/1nioseqg
wow I know you arent probably fishing for compliments but that sounded real nice

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>>70439535
I just got the scarlet solo and the AT2035 because you told me to do it!

>>70448822
wow I rotated the image and when I export it, it still stays fucked up

>>70439584
hey man, idk if you're still around, but i appreciate the feedback.
i understand what you're saying, but unfortunately it's a sample that i've pitched down over a full octave. i have it processed to the point where i feel the noise provides a nice atmosphere and the piano is still audible. it's sort of a similar idea to the of production on a multitude of popular rap songs where there is only brightness coming from the drums and vocals, but i tried to do like an ambient thing with a bright atmosphere idk

the drums were definitely too loud though i'm mixing them further

btw what were you listening on?

>>70446967
hey thanks!
i use ableton although you really can do this type of thing in any daw. i'm aware of a number of the popular chill-hop nujabes type soundcloud poducers who use fruity loops, so it really doesn't matter. in my opinion the daw should just be whatever you're most comfortable with. making this kind of music is about proper sampling and processing and that can be achieved with pretty much any daw and a few vsts.

>>70435643
https://clyp.it/40q3sgnf

whats your thoughts guys?

>>70449313
lacks energy. bretty gud otherwise.

>>70449313
>https://clyp.it/40q3sgnf
the dirtiness reminds me of audio (the dnb artist). Its pretty good minus that your bass needs to be mixed better. Also what >>70449392 said

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so... after some mixing recommended last night this is what I got
I brought out the melody and lead, and (hopefully) brought out enough of the higher spectrum to fill.
is it ok or should I trash it
https://clyp.it/bd44j24u

>>70450076
>https://clyp.it/bd44j24u
i can only listen on my headphones at the moment but i like this and it sounds pretty good

How to get FL Studio for mac?

I downloaded FL 11 in hopes of being able to get 12 but that did't work. Amd now i can't even get 11 again. Fml

>>70450403
>How to get FL Studio for mac?
fl studio for mac is only in beta version currently and the last news about it was 3 years ago from image line

>>70450468
Thank you. I meant a cracked version. Logic pro x is shit

>>70450584
im not sure where to get i dont use fl studio probably rutracker other people would reccomend

https://clyp.it/ka4emfsg

Killed it.

>>70451564
ebim :-DD

>>70452006
Feedback.

>>70447188
Why would you pay that much for a 2012 model when you could pay pretty much the exact same price for a much more recent model

>>70452006
:^)

Question I could do with some help with. So i'm just starting off producing some stuff. I have a couple passive studio monitors I got in a trade deal. So i need to get a power amp, however I don't have much of a budget atm. How important would a quality power amp be for my sound quality? And any recs for a decent one on a pretty low budget? thanks in advance

Fuck.. a 14 year old has better production quality then I..
https://soundcloud.com/nitratemusic/chiptune-1

>>70452871
judging by the way you type, i would go as far as to say that you just linked your own SC.

>>70435754
>https://clyp.it/rvk0twst
I like 2 more

>>70441635
this is pretty good, the intro had me skeptical if it was going to go anywhere but it's solid

>>70453400
i wouldnt doubt this desu

I want to produce dark/melancholic trap. Who are artists I should listen to (can be any genre) for inspiration?

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>>70454853
Forgot to attach pic

i'm using old wu-tang samples trying to make a modern trap version of it. should I continue or is it just not worth wasting my time on ?
currently working using this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf50swcp2_w

>>70454853
smash mouth , linkin park , drowning pool

Been producing since the start of November.

https://clyp.it/qrhgonoo

how am I doing?

>>70435643
Halp pls
I'm on a pirated Ableton 9.6.1. For some reason I can't play in midi anymore from my controller in sync. Everytime I use the count-in metronom it records a few miliseconds too late, meaning it always cuts off at the first beat of the metronom. this is frustrating since I always have to push the midi to 1.1.1

>>70452670
>How important would a quality power amp be for my sound quality?
hardly at all
I wouldn't recommend a power amp, but a small receiver
it will give you a separate volume control and a headphone amp as well and with the multiple inputs and in a lot of models even hdmi audio it's much more useful for normal multimedia applications as well
just make sure it's not really underpowered, as some entry models are, but a lot of very nice stuff from denon, yamaha, onkyo, nad, ... can be had for fairly cheap, especially if you look for some a little older models

>>70457640
PC?
ASIO4all?

Is there some sort of database where I can download tons of breaks? Or a mega link that someone may have?

>>70460474
you buy them its a whole industry you cuckold

>>70435643
>>70460359
hackintosh. It's only recently become a problem. iirc it worked fine under el capitan. Should I just download 9.7?

Should I drop this and start something new? https://clyp.it/ecx4b1lt

Feeling like no one would like this.

>>70461345
this is good, there's definitely a lot of people who'd dig this, including me. in the end of the line tho it's all about if it satisfies you, what do YOU wanna do?

>>70461345
This track definitely isn't going to get you famous and tons of fans. I'd just trash it. Why even bother?

>>70461436
I want to make music that's at least somewhat like this. My friend trashed this yesterday so a lot of my doubt has come from that and I haven't really felt like making it any more.

>>70461451
It's mostly that I don't trust myself at all on whether something I make is worth anything. I doubt I'll ever have more than a few listeners anyway.

https://clyp.it/abgabfjf

we gonna play this sheit in a few days heh in front of like 10-15 people no less!

>want to make a song
>don't know what to do for the melody
>don't know what to do for the chorus
>don't know what to do for the bass
>don't know what to do for the drums
>don't know what to do

>>70461707
sample things you like

>>70436544
Take a look at Sunvox. It has a set pitch function, that is if you don't mind inputting values in hexadecimal form.

>>70461760
I've made 2 songs out of samples that are okay but they sound a bit empty to me
https://soundcloud.com/sechzig-neinjudische/iga
https://soundcloud.com/sechzig-neinjudische/old-school-bing-bong

Sorry for SC, I'm using a different PC so I cant clyp.it

>>70438558
>Don't think your voice is good to be honest. I would hook up with some friends who have better vocals than you but don't produce.
Not him but I would say he should work on his voice. I wouldn't just turn and run to others when you lack something.

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how does one even make music like this?

>>70461985
open ableton
put samples
cut them
add filters

>>70462019
Then why didn't anyone put out anything comparable in the sixteen year between that and Wildflower?

>>70446035
Iris looks like the best synth ever

>>70462117
Four Tet, Flying Lotus, Daft Punk, OPN have done that exact process with quite a lot of success

>>70462156
Solely plunderphonics releases?

>>70462019
>>70462117
>>70462156
what kind of filters and stuff?

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hows it sounding?

https://clyp.it/tatzdjbp

>>70461985

here you go

http://web.archive.org/web/20120314023320/http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov02/articles/avalanches.asp

How do I into creating proper guitar solo sounds in FL Studio that don't sound like metal?

>>70436544
>xenharmonic music
what did he mean by this?

>>70463692
record your guitar via DI
put something like guitar rig on that channel

>>70460474
http://rhythm-lab.com/breakbeats/

>>70445144
>https://clyp.it/cndpnjxw
i've heard this somewhere before

You aren't going to regret.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1TuoU8DjNSu

>>70464561
Regretted.

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>>70435643
Help me understand equalization and mastering and know when to do it and how to do it...

>>70464882
there is no special formula
post an example that needs mastering along with your attempt and we can tell you what can be done differently

>>70464923
It's deleted and I have not installed FL Studio currently.
Everything is not right. I make it something and I like it, then after 3 days, I hear it and delete it. Why do I get demotivated? Everything is not fucking perfect. Maybe it's my OCD.

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>>70464977
I should upgrade my laptop first.
500GB hard-drive is not enough.
My projects have crackled everytime, even on ASIO.

>>70464977
that has nothing to do with mastering
the most important thing is to get your workflow sorted into something like that:
>lay out your song with fresh ideas or ideas you pull from the drawer and combine elements
>arrange that into a structure
>shape/replace/create sounds, create transitions
>stop skipping back and forth between these steps
>bounce that shit to audio and start mixing it so you finally stop fiddling with the composition
>export the mixdown and master it to a final stereo file

it takes a lot of time and patience and a lot of the feeling that you're forcing you to do certain things so you can go to the next step but you're not totally satisfied yet
that's totally fine though and that's where working destructively as in bouncing to audio before mixing (maybe even earlier on some elements) really helps you getting progress because you can't go back
going through all this a couple of times and looking back and comparing your results afterwards helps A LOT more with getting better than just not getting anything done at all

>>70446383

What does Reaper do better than FL studio

>>70465136
i'll consider it next time

>>70461456
fuck the haters, fuck what everyone says, if you're strict with yourself and you get to the point where you LOVE your shit, that's all that matters

>>70461512
nice heh

>>70461707
>melody
Melodies are mostly you having to get inspired, start by listening to tons of music and stepping outside of your comfort zone, start using your inner ear, humming random melodies, and remember to ALWAYS write your ideas down no matter where you are or what you do.

>chorus
same as before

>bass, drums
if you have the melody and you can hear the overall thing in your head bass and drums are easy to add to that, but maybe you can start from the bottom, start with a drum groove, then bass and try to work something on top of that

you can also try emulating and recreating all your favorite songs, that'll give you ideas and get you familiarized with the whole songwriting process

>>70461898
you have a long road ahead of you, try to recreate your favorite songs for starters and spend some time familiarizing yourself with harmony and music theory at least a bit, helps with generating ideas

>>70461985
learn how to produce music in general, after that you can make whatever you want

>>70463013
it's very quiet for starters, you can bring the volume up, piano seems to not have a lot of direction, the groove on the drums and the sloppiness is exactly what's needed but maybe you can find some better samples or make these ones more prevalent in the mix and snappier. it's pretty good overall but you need to beef it up, it sounds pretty flat and quiet.

>>70463692
spend some time familiarizing yourself with non-metal guitar music, if it's music it has to come within you, learn what scales and phrases are used in the music you're interested in making.

>>70464561
are you looking for feedback or just memeing?

>>70464882
these are extremely broad topics that you mostly have to experiment to figure out.
try experimenting with EQ's and the Ozone Mastering Suite as much as you can and go through the manuals and try to understand EVERYTHING that's said on there.

the most important thing to note is that it's going to take a while for you to get familiar with those and you have to use your ears!

>>70461456
>https://clyp.it/ecx4b1lt

This is really really really good . Might not be a popular niche but it is nicely composed , decently mixed .

rule 1 of making music : Love what you do man , no matter the genre .

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https://clyp.it/zcu5obfv

hey guys, been working on a home master of this song i've made, i've posted this before but if anyone has any opinions on the overall mix and if everything is gelling just right it would be great to hear from you! be as critical as you want with the production

>>70461345
This is good, but I wouldn't listen to a whole song like this. You should treat it as a song section and add different parts.

>>70465141
Track templates are dope. You can set up your tracks anyway you want (routing/pre-loaded effects/labels/colors etc) and save the template and insert it right there. Pic related. It's different from a project template (which Reaper also has) in that I can use whatever track template I want inside any project. So I can have Superior drummer set up (with all routings/labels/colors/effects), or Ezdrummer, or Maschine, or the sampler that comes with Reaper, or whatever.

You can save effects chains, so that when you add effects, you could add say a cut eq, compressor, boost eq, and saturator, all with one mouse click (or keyboard shortcut), and they'll all be labeled and in a neutral setting ready for you to start using.

Another cool thing is this feature called "use as media source for selected items", where say, I could take a kick stem, and use Dynamic Split to chop it up into individual items, select them all, and use the media browser to swap different kicks into my already written part. Or I could do the same thing but on a second, duplicate track, and swap out the duplicate kick with another to add kick layers into my already written part.

The best thing, is that you can take all those steps, and make a macro (which is very, very easy and intuitive to do), so that I could literally Dynamic Split, Select, Open media browser just by pressing say, Ctrl+D, or whatever I want. It's called "custom actions", where you can string multiple actions together and control them all with one keystroke or menu command.

And Reaper is by far, by far the most efficient with managing CPU and plugins. I can run so many plugins in reaper, where in Ableton I wouldn't be able to run half as many without getting clicks and pops. One last thing, Reaper is really easy to handle routing since there is only one type of track. Any track can have midi, audio, mono, stereo, receives, sends, whatever. Every track can do anything.

Any tip on programming drums? I am getting really tired of the same old "boom bap" hip-hop pattern that i always seem to make.

Who has the best tutorials on drums?

https://clyp.it/mibsg2t1
i luv u tribblet ur my only friend

>>70465673
I'm one of the anons who said a couple of things about this like a week ago or so and I think the progress is great
the overall balance is pretty good now, just a couple of minor details:
in the beginning there's a couple of handling noises in the left guitar's pauses, I'd edit them out carefully
the drums, especially the snare sounds like there's some compression working really hard - the overall punch is not bad but I'd tone it down a tad so it doesn't sound as smashed because it's pulling up a lot of room tone on the snare which won't really fit the otherwise really clean mix

good job, m8. didn't you say you were adding some vocals, though?

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>>70465807
wrong pic!

>>70465858
hey thanks man!! Yeeeeeeeah we are gonna do vocals maybe??? School has started back up and my singer is in another town, so idk when it's gonna happen and im impatient and love to work on the mix lmao

Good points I'll look into them during my next mix session, I hear what you're saying with snare, these drums have been alot of fuckery to get them to sit right

>>70465485
what are you listening on?

https://clyp.it/o2k0gorq

how does this sound

>>70467083
the drum samples sound cheap
and the subbass is not really doing anything because it's barely audible and not adding anything harmonic

>>70436784
please explain what is happening
i really like this

having a fucking awful time mixing this
plz help me just got into prod and don't really know where to go with this track

https://clyp.it/bh13mkrl

>>70467475
I honestly don't know what to tell you family. It's just a lot of noise to me. It in no way is something I'd ever want to listen to.

Try writing a song.

https://clyp.it/4ulyk2g4

:)

>>70468239
good job making a 4 bar loop with some filter automations
now make a song out of it

>>70468300
factually incorrect :)

>>70462615
The Avalanches use low pass filters on everything they make, Wildflower is almost abusive in that regard.

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https://clyp.it/1duuwdyj
Mixing advice? Just about done, needs a few more tweaks

>>70465485
>it's very quiet for starters, you can bring the volume up, piano seems to not have a lot of direction, the groove on the drums and the sloppiness is exactly what's needed but maybe you can find some better samples or make these ones more prevalent in the mix and snappier. it's pretty good overall but you need to beef it up, it sounds pretty flat and quiet.

hey i appreciate the feedback

so the piano is basically this sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2FNolvbuYs (00:23-00:30) pitched down 13 steps with a bunch of processing and grain delay. i thought it sounds sort of weightless and eerily hollow, but it could just sound flat and bad idk

did the drums really sound that flat? i thought they were pretty punchy desu but i boosted the transients a little anyway

i mastered it a bit more but it's still not that loud..idk if i'll be able to get that loud with it

could you tell me if this sounds any better to you?

https://clyp.it/q5j1zgnd

>>70469145
bretty gud, the fade out felt a wee bit to long imo

>>70465820
look into triplets and syncopation to create interesting rhythms

>>70435754
both are pretty bad dude

where do i learn how to make rap beats gang gang gang graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

sup niggas. What are some good speakers for <$300? Was looking at these ( https://www.amazon.com/Mackie-CR-CR3-Reference-Multimedia/dp/B00KVEIY4E/cc-0febe090b8ed&pf_rd_i=desktop )
but I uppd my budget a little bit because I don't want to cheap out since I want to take production seriously and make some money.

>>70470110
LSR 305

someone should come up with a way to make /prod/ actually good

>>70470638
stop posting

>>70470700
why would i do that you lil scrub?

>>70470746
so /prod/ becomes better

>>70470782
GOT EM

>>70461345
drop a link if you upload it somewhere
would love to listen to more stuff like this