/prod/ - Music Production General

could i get some feedback on my first song so far? not finished yet.
https://clyp.it/4crv0wsa

>missed the new thread
noob with only very basic knowledge of theory/synthesis wants to get a synth
minilogue vs ms-20 mini?
sorry if this is the wrong thread for this

>>70337430
Well the Minilogue is 4 voice polyphonic so you can play four notes at once. MS20 is monophonic so you can only play one note at a time and is more suited to lead lines and basslines. The MS20 is a recreation of a synth from the late 70s and has a more vintage sound. It's pretty dirty sounding and noisy but that's part of it's charm, listen to 'Metal Fingers in My Body' by Add N to (X) for a good example of how dirty the MS20 can sound if you really push it. Overall though, for a first synth though I'd go for the Minilogue.

please rate my WIP

its a house remix of sorts of "Freak Like Me" by Adina Howard (og 90s rnb)

https://clyp.it/ojw20lpc

>>70337430
minilogue just cause its more user friendly... i would mess with Reaktor or any other modular synth plugin for a while before getting a real semi modular.

So am I doing this reverb send right? Read about it in the last thread.

I have a lead routed both to master and reverb, in reverb I set wet signal to 100% (don't know on what level to set dry), and I control the input of a dry signal with the knob at the bottom.

Is this the right way to do it or? And I just route all my tracks I want reverb on to that send opposed to adding it directly to each track?

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>>70337707
>forgot pic

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WIP
https://clyp.it/lcyfe4an

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>>70337716
>>70337716
No. If you're doing a reverb send, there shouldn't be any dry signal. Just wet. Otherwise you'll be getting two dry signals. Does that make sense?

>>70337750
Yeah, realized that a minute ago. Is it enough to put a dry slider to 0, then? Or did I fuck up the routing? Should I just send the track to reverb and then reverb to master, or send the track both to reverb and master?

Verse 2!

> https://clyp.it/yji1l2sc
> https://clyp.it/yji1l2sc
> https://clyp.it/yji1l2sc

>>70337707
>>70337750
>>70337799
Sorry, I didn't read your whole post before responding. Basically, on your reverb send, put the wet at 100% and the dry at 0%. Then, for example, if you want your snare's wetness to be 25%, just turn the send knob from your snare track to your reverb send up to 25%. The send know basically becomes your wet knob. This saves a lot of CPU because you'll just have 1 reverb instead of like 20 for each mixer track.

Anyway, started a remix and there's a key change in it (this is the second half of the song, didn't think you guys would want to hear the whole thing). I can't tell if it sounds weird or not.
>https://clyp.it/buacfj4z

Also,
>https://clyp.it/pmyg0rpx

What's the fastest way to improve my /prod/ skills? Recreating shit? Do some specific challenges for practice?

I don't think just doing stuff is helping me, since I need to have something to compare my work with.

Even if my work sounds similar to a track I'm recreating, I know I am still clueless about certain things and don't know what I'm doing. It's always the same process. EQ, put some compression, slap some more random effects if needed, then add a limiter and a bit of soundgoodizer to master because I don't know how to master properly nor use maximus.

>>70337368
I would make this picture my phone wallpaper if it was slightly less weird. Saved anyways, thanks.

>>70337898
Thanks. But just one more thing - so, is it okay if I send my track both to send AND master (like I did in the pic)? The only difference is that I can't get just a wet signal this way, e.g. if I want only that echo. So idk if I should just route it to reverb then.

>>70337927
set the send to pre fader and turn the channel fader down if you want it all wet

>>70337906
>soundgoodizer
First of all, that's where you're fucking up. Don't use that. Ever. Second, you might just straight up need better samples. (I can provide you with some if you want). If a sample doesn't sound good to begin with, then it's (probably) never gonna sound good. And don't expect to git gud over night. I've been doing this shit for like 7 years and I just recently feel like I got decent. Just make shit. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad. Practice.

>>70337927
Well, yeah, if you JUST want the wet signal from a track, then don't route it to the master.

>>70337945
>>70337946
Cool, thanks guys.

No offense but is Fruity Loops for special needs people?

>>70338012
it looks a bit like a toy but its the next best thing to ableton

>>70337898
Fuck it, I'm posting the whole thing. Would like some feedback.
>https://clyp.it/sa5gsra1

>>70337978
No problem, man.

>>70338012
I use it, so probably.

>>70337946
Does bad samples really exist? I noticed a lot of these kinds of drums lately, muddy, low-fi, noisy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg35jIwoWcQ

Tutorials made me think my drums should always sound crisp and clear, but I started thinking that everything can work.

I don't know, I have a feeling I am overthinking a lot. I'm not sure if I'm just on a wrong side of dunning-kruger spectrum, though.

But I noticed that when I check out some FLPs of songs that I think sound great, I often don't find much shit going on in the mix. A few times my tracks were PACKED with effects and it sounded like trash - I was actually just making it worse the more I was working on it.

>>70338031
it was a really polished song and i liked the vocals a lot straight out of new retro waves channel.

this one is my incomplete thing.
>>70337648

>>70338031
>>https://clyp.it/sa5gsra1

Imo the fine tuning LFO on the lead in the intro needs to be a little more subtle.

>>70338012
Nah. The design is clearer and a lot more modern (it can look childlish to some people, I personally enjoy it, but can agree on that - it's just a trend, though).

The managing of its windows sucks hard though. Why can't I just make it fixed like in ableton? That's probably the thing that pisses me off the most. That and chaotic arrangement view. Other than that, it's a great DAW and it just keeps getting better.

>>70338055
Do* bad samples exist.

>>70338055
You can always make a good sample sound shitty (if that's what you're going for) but you can't make a shitty sample sound good. And less is more. A lot people think you need to compress and EQ everything. If something already sounds good by itself, leave it alone.

>>70338057
Thanks, man. I've been on a synthwave kick recently. Used to make trap, oddly enough. I'll check your shit out after I post this comment!

>>70338078
The LFO on the pitch? Yeah, I was trying to make it sound like an old vintage synth. You know, the ones that can't hold a steady note. Guess I overdid it. I'll turn it down.

>>70337419
>https://clyp.it/4crv0wsa
Turn down the water sample a little, let it last longer, into the start of your synths. Also fade it out slower, and add a little reverb. That way people have something to focus on other than the sudden lack of sound, and the transition flows better.

I would also try and find boomier kick.

Not a bad start!

>>70337648
You got some cool bass sounds going on but goddamn, those vocals are loud, man.

>>70338078
>https://clyp.it/zsxvrj5x
Is this a little better?

>>70338235
Yeah, that sounds great.

>>70338168
thanks a lot man, last guy just called it "pee pee"

https://clyp.it/p5oclrgm

unreal tournament / deus ex desu

>tfw shit at mixing

>>70338701
Forget to add "send help" but i think you got the idea : how can i improve the mix

Also people seems to get feedback atm but don't hesitate to ask i'm just doing something else right now

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just got REEEEEaktor

what are some fun things to mess with?

Does anyone know why nothing seeds on pro audio torrents? I've forwarded my ports and set everything up, I can barely squeeze out a few MB.

Is it just ded site = no leechers? Or do downloaders almost always automatically leech off seedboxes because it's faster?

best tool to make drone music?

>>70338931
Anything but you might like granular synths and some distortions vst

>>70338813
look for an app called "bit-che" for windows

its this program that searches all the popular sites in a clean UI. it feels like you are using old school p2p.

>>70339291
good one grandad

>>70339447
sometimes it shows seeds and peers as 0 but that could be because it cant scrape it properly so its always worth it to load up several torrents of what you want and wait for one to start before cancelling the others.

>>70338701
>>70338719
One of the most basic rules of mixing is to mix quiet. Basically, your premaster shouldn't exceed like -6db. What I usually do when I mix a song is turn all the volume sliders on my mixer to 0%. Then I'll pick one (usually it's the kick since most of the time it's the loudest thing in the mix) and bring it up to about -8db. Then I'll go down the line and bring each track up to an appropriate level using the kick as a reference. A lot of people make the mistake of trying to mix with everything at 0db. You should always have a couple of db's of headroom. You can make it loud when you master.

https://clyp.it/ehrpqbyi

Is this fun to listen to?

I asked in the Last thread but i went to sleep and now that thread is gone

I just installed cubase 9 on a New laptop, i didn't install asio4all before. I installed a couple of synths but when i play there is no sound coming out of my laptop speakers.
Should i reinstall? or should i just buy an interface? i wanted to go to a music Shop and buy one for my guitar

I'm starting to lose my direction. It always happens at this point when I have moderate amount of sounds and composition finished. It's too much going on for me and I can barely control it.

https://clyp.it/4jnkxo35

Should I finish arrangement first before I go into mixing? Now I'm just throwing different parts in to see what will sound best.

Are there any good youtube channels or something where you can just watch people make beats from the ground up? I think I'd benefit from seeing the workflow of people who are actually competent.

>>70340034
Sure, I like the transition at 1:07. Not a fan of the drums though, they sound thin to me

>>70340594
What kind of beat? Because most of the time people who make those kinds of videos just make trap beats.

>>70340594
Also interested. Btw, I bet I would make a larger progress in a month with a mentor than in the past 2 years alone.

>>70340648
Honestly I'm not a huge trap fan but the style doesn't really matter to me so much as the thought process that goes into it. I feel like I'm throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, so I really just want to have a better understanding of what's going on inside the head of someone who can make a beat (or any kind of track really) with more forethought

>>70340654
>>70340712
Honestly just check this guy out. He doesn't just show what to do. He explains why and what it does.

>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYoE903Nir65HoRumooVvT_H2pcsLiv4

>>70340747
>track from scratch in 3 hours

>>70340563
>9 hours in and it still sounds bad

Goddamn it why is the progress so slow.

>>70340747
Thanks man, just quickly looking at this guy's stuff, I think this is exactly what I'm looking for.

>>70340808
Sounds better than anything I'm making man dw about it. My biggest gripe with it is I find that little melody that starts at 0:38 and ends at 0:58 a bit cheesy

>>70337648

Damn, I love that song - and a great choice for a jacking house remix.

My thoughts:
1. The vocal stabs in the intro sound unpolished, like the edges could be rounded off a bit. Or did you do that on purpose to sound like those early Trax records/Dance mania tracks?
2. That bassline is so silky, I love it. What did you use to make it?
3. It's just my opinion, maybe you disagree - but I think the original vocals (not pitched down) would work better in this. If you want to keep that dark/eerie vibe, you could just layer the pitched down vocals under it to give it a sort of demonic tone. Just an idea
4. I would have the vocals sitting lower in the mix and make the kick much more prominent.

>>70340563
I've always found it helpful to just leave it alone for a while. I finish a lot of stuff months after I've started something and put it down, then come back to it and ideas come to me much more easily. Alternatively, try making slight variations on the patterns you already have; sometimes you can accidentally make something that sounds great and start a snowball effect of inspiration.

I posted this in the last thread but I didn't get much feedback - what do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/1kktnmpr

https://clyp.it/usote4rf
thoughts?

No matter how good something I make is, at the end of the day it doesn't matter and has no artistic merit. It's nothing, waste of time. I find it terribly depressing.

What is some program that can do music for me?

>>70341740
Musicshake.

>>70341740
Spotify

>>70341523
maybe learn to not be a fag who says this in every thread

>>70341966
more complex
>>70342033
ebik

>>70341740
Any DAW

Where is /comp/ thread? Is anybody from there also active here?

>>70342091
How?

>>70337430
Minilogue is a lot of fun and you can make great sounds quickly. I have a lot of digital synths (serum, harmor, fm8), but they're just not as fun because you have to spend time menu diving/setting up your encoders to control the knobs, which feels more like an extra decision making process instead of fun noodling. With the minilogue I can tweak for five minutes and find something I like.

I also recommend it because polyphony is incredibly useful. I'd honestly rather be able to play chords/intervals in favor of the slightly fatter/warmer bottom end that mono synths tend to have.

>>70342219
Watch youtube tutorials

>>70342270
There isn't anything about it

>>70341523
You sound like you're not making things that make you happy.

Stop trying to achieve "artistic merit" and try to make something that honestly delights you, no matter how goofy or stupid. If you're having fun, it will come across in every note, timbre, and decision. If you're trying to make "art", you're using the wrong part of your brain. Forget the editor and favor the child.

What do you think is the most important part of the production (besides composition)? Sound design? Automatization and minor details like transitions etc.? Something else?

Like, if that thing is good, you wouldn't mind so much if the rest is shitty to average.

>>70342722
sound design and mix

>>70342722
if it's good, which can be down to any of those things

>>70340034
Yeah, definitely. I think your synth has a really nice and crisp sound. But just as the other anon said, your drums need work. They're too thin and the kick doesn't have enough oomph

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https://clyp.it/z1l2hvya

Hey /prod/ how does this sound? Is it something that could be decent?
Also I think the composition has too many ideas going on at once but I'm not sure how to split it up.

>>70341134
This is great. Where did you sample the vocals from?

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>>70337368
Guize: I'm about to get a rapidgator premium account to download shitloads of updates and max for live stuff for ableton 9.
I need new samples/plugins/synths!!!!!!!!!
What are good samples n synths for unusual sounding FX stuff? I already got serum ( which isn't working anymore), spire, xpand. What are good synths?
>inb4 vengeance

>>70343405
repro-1 is really good, it's a recreation of the sequential circuits pro-one using circuit emulation technology

it's mono-only (on purpose) but that constrains you to write basslines and melodies which are good starting points

it's good if you want something different to serum/massive type synths

>>70343501
awesome! Thanks. I'll look into it. I just wanna get a bank of more less generic sounds. Is there any freeware plugins which are good too? I'm on mac so I'm cucked

Are there any good headphones for <$100? My earbuds aren't doing it for me

>>70344565
ath m40x

>>70344596
Might as well just get the 50X if you can bump it up to $130

>>70338012
Similar to what the other anon said: I'm a retard and use it (and suck), so probably.

>>70344662
yeah

>>70344662
Where are 50Xs for $130?

https://clyp.it/5vitsicr

eh?

>>70344859
amazon periodically, especially near black friday
>plus get prime as a student with any edu email

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are beats basically loops?

>>70345900
where did it all go wrong for Kanye? When did he make the transition from passionate producer to egomaniac?

>>70345957
You act like you can't be a passionate producer and an egomaniac. Also you didn't answer my question.

https://clyp.it/rletxzw4

Think I'm nearly done with this, been working on it on and off for months so it's time to let it go I guess. Gonna add more variation to the piano, but any general comments/criticism on things I can sort out?

Thanks

>>70345900
i would say no because anyone can shit out 3 loops per day

>>70338012
it's just incredibly fucking easy to use. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE could pick up FL studio and make a "good" EDM track. There's a reason why uninspired bedroom producers and FrankJavcee use FL

>>70346024
his ego has definitely overshadowed his love for music.

>>70346065
anyone could pick up any daw and make a good edm track, fl just happens to be the easiest. what bothers me the most is that people who use ex. ableton or cubase think theyre instantly better than someone who uses fl studio.

Another night, another remake. Okay, I didn't finish this, but it's simpler than Selena's from yesterday. 1 hour in:

https://clyp.it/ci2uc50c

So, I'm using Diva, and I can't figure out why those stacattos in the beginning sometimes get so loud, I can't control their volume at all. Is it a problem with phase or what? Also, I don't know why I can't find a simple sine wave, I made that synth with a triangle wave, LPF and high resonance.

Would appreciate some tips, but I know I didn't completely nail the sounds yet and I think it gets muddy when the guitar hits.

This is the song I'm remaking btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgP9tzt9_Z8

P.S. I'm still not sure if I'm improving with this or not, but oh well.

I'm using Kontakt 5 and keep getting this error message: "Looks like we're out of memory. I'm afraid we're going to crash, soldier."
I googled around and heard about a purging function in Kontakt that can help me, can this help with my memory problem?

>>70346065
You don't even realize you are telling the exact reason why FL is great. Yes, it's easy to use, it doesn't make you a good musician because of that, though.

>>70346326
also, would flattening some of my tracks help? I'm running like 5 kontakt tracks rn and trying to add a sixth

>>70346381
bouncing to audio would help, as would installing more ram

>>70346534
so is this an issue with my computer's RAM or kontak itselft? I have the libraries stored on an external

>>70346650
yeah it's a ram issue, by saying "we're out of memory" it means you're maxing out available ram, so kontakt (and anything else) is out of ram to access

>>70346650
ram
you need more of it
disk streaming only works with ssds

>>70346704
fuuuuck alright I gotcha. thanks man that actually clears up a lot

GUYS I NEED HELP
bought a focusrite scarlett solo and plugged in my guitar but theres no sound comming out of my guitar when i play in cubase

tried it in guitar rig, same shit no sound coming out of my guitar.
Cubase recognizes the signal but thats it theres no playback sound if the scarlett solo is connected

>>70347843
did you change the audiocard to focusrite within cubase rather than your computers standard sound card?

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>>70347886
yeah, sorry its in spanish but you get the idea

>>70347934
>within cubase
try that again

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>>70347934
within cubase's preferences?
>here's a pic of mine in bitwig

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>>70347966
>>70348009
yeah, no sound

hows this senpai?
https://clyp.it/g21wtet4

>>70348044
did you download the drivers from the website?

>>70348116
yeah its a first gen

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>>70348044
then just make sure your channel is going to the main buts with the output assigned and it's monitoring enabled

>>70337368
what's your input latency in ms? I have an i54460 with a hackintosh but I'm not able to get lower than 3,5ms in ableton. What is up?
My audio interface is the 2i2 1st gen. Is it shittier for low latency?

>>70348116
it only makes a sound if i plug the mic into my amp
>>70348139
i already did that

>>70348140
3.5ms is low as fuck if that's what you meant?

>>70348075
please....for the love of god put a filter at 0:35 on that lead so that my ears dont bleed again.
Other than that, its pretty interesting. Definitely caught me off guard

is slicex a good VST for vocal cuts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoKApyjB_h4

>>70348140
focusrite usb drivers are meh tier
my saffire can do a stable 64 samples which is 1.6 ms only via firewire with it's 18 ins and 18 outputs, and that only with the right firewire chipset card
while my rme madiface can do 64 ins and 64 outs on 64 samples latency via usb 2

>>70348216
but can it run Crysis?

>>70348258
in dolby digital and techincolor

>>70337594
>'Metal Fingers in My Body' by Add N to (X)
this is not very good

https://clyp.it/1ozkvbtw

thoughts?

just pirated Reaktor 6

anybody have a good resources for learning how to use it?

i'm trying to make tim hecker granular stuff

>>70348139
>>70348116
>>70348009
no sound at all, should i just ask for a refund?

>>70348555
list out what you've done so far. it could be as simple as making sure you have the thing turned on XD

Stumbled upon some older orchestral/electronic project and got inspired again. This is gonna be fun to mix, especially since I have no idea how to mix strings properly...

https://clyp.it/lbon0iz0

>>70348894
neat, I can see this turn out well

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>>70337716
>REEVERB

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>>70348582
installed the drivers, connected the interface, turned on the interface, its in direct monitoring when i plugged in my guitar the interface recognized it but there was no sound coming out of my PC speakers.

connected the headphone jack to my bedroom amp and there is sound coming out of it but not from my guitar just a random song that i put on cubase to experiment but the interface recognizes my guitar
followed the instructions from cuibases website and still no sound and apparently fucking nobody had the same problem as me because i cant find shit on google

>>70348937
Thanks! I really hope so, got burnt out with things that are not really something I enjoy that much in the end.

>>70348971
Kek, that's what I also realized today. Did they try to insert a legit meme in their DAW?

>>70338055
>Does bad samples really exist?
yes

>>70348973
with the interface's asio initialized it is the only thing cubase can use
it can't output sound from cubase on your pc speakers while using the interface, you need to plug speakers or headphones to the interface

Should I worry about my songs being repetitive?

I always think my songs aren't dynamic enough, so I use an idea for about 15-20 seconds at a time before it becomes annoying in my mind, and I try to come up with something else to switch to. Eventually I run out of ideas to switch to and I never finish it.

Should I be worried about this sort of thing, or should I let it slide so I can finish stuff?

>>70348181
yes

>>70349048
but thats fucking retarded, i shouldve just bought a behringer uca then at least they said that was going to happen.

but theres is no sound coming out of guitar rig and i bought that interface to record the guitar parts, so that means i spent 100 for nothing

>>70348973
>direct monitoring
when my interface is in direct monitoring there is no sound unless i turn it back off

>>70349306
What did you expect? You bought an external sound card.

>>70349306
it should work on the interface's outputs

>>70349214
pls respond

>>70349343
tried turning it on and off the guitar rig doesnt work when the guitar is plugged in and thats the only fucking reason i bought the interface in the first place
>>70349355
>>70349365
guitar rig doesnt work if i play the guitar, it only works with my synth vsts, and it records the guitar clean but in a minuscule volume lvl that you can only hear it if you pay attention and turn the amp to 10. If the guitar rig didnt work at all i would reinstall it but it works so i dont know what to do.
The guitar makes a sound if i play it clean but it records at an unacceptable low lvl without turning the guitar rig on. Is it because im using my amp as a speaker and also as an amp?

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>>70349769
>please clap

anyone have any youtube links to songs wih heavy guitar solos or riffs? i want to sample and play around with some guitar samples

>>70349834
cmon now

>>70349834
he probably makes guacstep

>tfw realized I was playing in my DAW the whole day

something i did for fun https://clyp.it/zl4pweet obvious blank banshee vibe

>>70337732
I have that album. Pure classic

>>70349214
I think it's better to improve the song than discard it for a new idea. Some ideas are unsalvagable, but if you're constantly waiting for "the perfect idea", you will never finish anything.

If your idea starts annoying you, think of it from an engineering/problem solving perspective. How can you fix what's bothering you? Is it the instrumentation? Dynamics? Do you need another part to keep interest piqued?

Basically what I'm saying is, if your solution is always "throw it out", you're not only shortchanging yourself from finding possible solutions, but at the end of the day you're left with a whole lotta nothin. Except self-doubt and anxiety, of course.

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https://clyp.it/xgfveb5m

I've been working on this for a week.

How can I make my track breathe?

My friend told me that the energy od the track is constant throughout

>>70337368
Is there any good music theory courses that won't leave my head hurting

Is it weird to put a distortion/saturation effect on a return track?
I don't see people using it. It's usually reverbs, delays, and choruses.

>>70351840
parallel distortion is pretty common

>>70351670
musictheory.net
teoria.com
https://www.youtube.com/user/Rhaptapsody

>>70341129
thank you... that is the most feedback ive ever gotten for a song.
>1. The vocal stabs in the intro sound unpolished, like the edges could be rounded off a bit. Or did you do that on purpose to sound like those early Trax records/Dance mania tracks?
they were clipped from an acapella of a song (will link in below)
>2. That bassline is so silky, I love it. What did you use to make it?
the bass at the intro and outro was Serum with Turnado
the main bass was actually a sample from a Niche Audio pack but i ran it through some reverb and filters.
>3. It's just my opinion, maybe you disagree - but I think the original vocals (not pitched down) would work better in this. If you want to keep that dark/eerie vibe, you could just layer the pitched down vocals under it to give it a sort of demonic tone. Just an idea
the
the stabs you mentioned earlier are the original pitch but the rest were pitched down. the downpitching was deliberate though. its what all the deep house people are doing.
>4. I would have the vocals sitting lower in the mix and make the kick much more prominent.
yup. once i stretch it out im going to start sidechaining and mixing
thanksfor the feedback.


>https://clyp.it/1kktnmpr
i like those kick sounds and that buzzy bass

Whats a good drum sample pack that has quality sub-bassy kicks?

>>70352834
Niche Audio stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZrW9kEF6cA

easy to torrent and its not a large overloaded sample pack

>>70352992
got a magnet link for it?

Cant find it on TPB

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need Reaper help.

i have this track with multiple splits and i want to export each one as its own self contained file.

wat do?

>>70349772

If you load Guitar Rig into a DAW it usually loads as as insert effect by default, so the DAW records the clean guitar sound (the unaffected sound of the guitar as it enters the interface at any rate) and then plays it back through the same Guitar Rig insert effect.

This allows you to change the amp models and effects after the fact, since they don't get recorded as audio.

Your other troubles seem to relate to you not having speakers connected to your audio interface, as >>70349355 pointed out you have bought a new audio interface and this now handles all sound going into and coming out of your computer, any other interface (even the Behringer) would also work in the same way.

posted my first dnb wip last week, started working on another one, am I off to a good start /prod/? I'm still bad at mixing. Also any recommendations to make the transition from the intro to the full track better welcome, it doesn't sound very natural atm.

https://clyp.it/0stfh4lo

>>70348894
I love this kind of stuff. Got a soundcloud?

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>write song
>think it's pretty good
>hum some lyrics to myself
>think about how I can develop the song past the main melody
>go to bed
>wake up
>realize it's another rip off of a radiohead song

Why does this keep happening?

>>70353581
Drag each item to its own track, then render each track. (Right click track control panel and render track to stereo file). It should render the audio file in the same folder as your project file.

https://clyp.it/iz4m2wmb

I made a trap beat, all I need now is a rapper

what do you think of it?

how does one construct a dnb beat without it sounding like a machine?

https://clyp.it/jxrk3icn

>>70351840
That can be the best way to use distortion, a little goes a long way

>>70344565
No don't be a stinge, its only3-500$ for good ones

>>70342722
All the instruments are balanced properly and no weird things / frequencies stand out

>>70338931
a brain

What's the best kind of instrumental (in your opinion) for a Hip-Hop posse diss track?

I was thinking something Wu Tang inspired.

>>70344565
sony mdr v6. cheap and isnt to bad desu. obviously not the best but theyre decent for their price

>>70355558
I ended up getting an M50x for $110

https://soundcloud.com/eeeev/tantalus-jr
Would deeply appreciate feedback on this track or any of my other tracks

>>70353634
yea i know but i bought the focusrite solo instead of the behringer because i didnt want to buy extra speaker, because if i use my synth VSTS theres such a short delay that you dont even notice it so buying an interface seemed like a waste of money.
i fixed the problem at least in my pc anyway, some shit in the sound setup of my PC didnt want to change so i had to experiment, in the end i managed to fix it, and after that the cubase also wasnt working but the standalone guitar rig was so i had to reduce the latency in the focusrite solo.
plug and play my ass, fixing that shit took me like 3 hours
one final question, im running fthe focusrite through my amp and of course its sounds like utter shit, can i use my pc speakers as the interface speakers?, assuming i remove the wires that connect it to my pc

just realize if you dime the input gain on compression for vocals and then add reverb with chorus, you sound good even if you can't sing for shit

now i can go back and put vocals on all my tracks

i'm excited, i've had lyrics and the melody for them written since forever

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looking for the /v/ agdq undertale anon that got inspired by toby pls

>>70357129
MJUC compressor
Valhalla Vintage Verb/Plate

Amazing vocals for less than $100

https://clyp.it/havkslds
i can't sleep
how should i go about making a full song out of this?

>>70357341
is that combo a well known thing? because i've looked everywhere online for how to get good vocals when you have a bad voice and all i got was shitty autotune plugins that sound terrible. i had to figure this out on my own and i was so close to giving up on doing my own vocals

>>70355190
add lots of variation

idk where im suppose to go for this, so I posted this in guitar general as well.

I need help with getting a good sound with my sm7b, 286s, and scarlett solo gen

https://clyp.it/xbzbdia2

>>70338012
hi mememan postin in epic bread

>>70357341
what are your settings on the reverb?

>>70357781
Depends on the song. The most important settings for verb are the main algorithm (hall, chamber, room, sanctuary, plate, spring etc), the room size, then the decay time, pre-delay and send volume (assuming you're using it as a send effect, otherwise it would be wet/dry).

Most importantly, you need to envision the space for your song. Reverb helps the glue the mix and fill the spaces, but its primary job is defining the space. The different algorithms have different reflection characteristics/frequency dispersion qualities, making them sound different. The "size" parameter helps you dial in the size of your room/chamber/hall. A small chamber has many reflections with more high frequency harmonic content than a small room, for ex. The size parameter and main algorithm should be considered together. Plates and springs have different frequency dispersion than chambers or halls, and have unique timbres. Plates are often used for vocals/drums, and springs are often used for guitars, but you can use both on anything.

Then, think about how long you want the reverb to linger in your mix. This is slightly different than "defining the room." A busy mix should probably have a shorter decay time. A sparse mix can stand tons. The pre-delay is just an offset from the time between the dry sound and the time you hear the reverb. This is the most over-looked parameter, but it's amazing how useful it is. Adding a little pre-delay can add separation between your dry sound and your verb, making your dry sound more intelligible and your verb more rhythmic with the tempo of the track. It's often used on snares to get the verb to sit in a rhythmic "pocket" between hits, or add a bit of separation on a vocal. And then with send volume (or wet/dry if using as an insert), you're just deciding the verb volume.

Those are the main parameters. Most of the other common reverb controls can be substituted by processing the reverb return track separately with EQ and modulation.

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anyone know a good place to get some free stock, ambient, and random sounds?

some stuff on my shopping list:
>cricket chirp
>airplane cabin
>waves or ocean
>thunderstorm
>horse galloping
>wolves howling

>>70359050
http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/free-music-samples-download-loops-hits-and-multis-627820

>>70359050
99sounds has a free rain and thunderstorm pack thats pretty good imo

>>70358835
Thanks for that I've always struggled with reverbs so I normally just don't add it or mess around til something sounds okay. Would it be better to have one or two reverbs on sends and just route everything to those or use reverbs on specific tracks?

>>70359050
I just use youtube. You can ether search the sound you're looking for or search something like airplane ride or riding a horse or whatever. If you don't care too much about quality or youtube compression it's the easiest way to find sounds.

finally something that im pleased with sounds professional even would love feedback!

https://clyp.it/ww2fazko

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>>70359050

>>70354981
Because u have a bad taste?

>>70354533
Woah dude, thanks. I have yet to finish tons of my projects before I open a soundcloud, unfortunately. I'm trying to improve my production though, so it doesn't sound too amateurish.

>>70354981
Just produce tons of music and it will eventually go away, hopefully. That's what happened to me. At the beginning I sometimes directly projected something I heard before from my unconscious mind. One of the first little pieces I played with was literally one song from Elvis. The thing which was suspicious was too good of a harmony for my knowledge, it just sounded too good to be true. Now I don't give a fuck anymore, I'm fairly certain I'm not copying anything. That doesn't mean I found my voice yet, though.

Can I get a torrent for U-he Diva which is not a shitty beta? Everything worked fine and now I got a message that the beta expired. Fuck me.

>>70360907
Well, it seems that it just says that after it is open for too long in a project. I readded it and it works fine. WTF.

>>70360963
just buy it :^)

C#

>>70360907
I recommend buying any VST that you really want if it's under $120

If it's something like waves/arturia where some of them are 2004 technology plugins for 400 dollars each then torrent it

I really don't know why they charge hundreds of dollars for a single plugin. It's not a physical product and you can distribute it through torrents. When I see something like Diva is only a hundred dollars and it has all those modules bundled I am guilt tripped into buying it and I'm sure others are too.

>>70359050
Do you have a Steam account with games on it? If you go into the game folders some of them have big wav folders of sound effects. Some of them like old playstation games have soundfont modules you can load into samplers like NN-XT/Kontakt etc. I find out last night you could load every single sound and keyboard patch in fantasy 7 into nn-xt

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Bump.

God damn it diva is good. Add eq and saturation and you have the slickest bass in the world

>>70363000
wot saturation do you use

>>70363038
Just got a set of Brainworx plug ins that I'm trying out

>>70341523
>artistic
I meticulously compose my beats mathematically while I'm wearing a lab coat.

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Finally made my first beat, well almost I'd call it a first draft: https://clyp.it/nkytid3d

How did I do?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3mBCn2AyhQ


Jorman God - Pillz

Hip hop instrumental to my new doomsday mixtape

>>70363107
oh shi I use bx saturator too

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been doing electronic stuff for years, trying guitars now too

https://clyp.it/znychgtg

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bumpo

Come on.

>>70363576
i assumed it'd sound really bad but it's not bad. not any fret buzz that i hear. how long you been playing guitar? you ever take actual lessons? playing fingerstyle i assume?

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What should I do with the lead synth to make it sound better? I want it to be annoying but not piercing.
Do the vocals mesh with the rest of the sounds?

https://clyp.it/qxgmtjij

>>70338095
>Nah. The design is clearer and a lot more modern
>all fonts are at 60% width
>everything has bevel/emboss
Wut

>>70366730
finish the tune before you worry about mixing it

>>70366730
are the vocals saying anything? IMO if there's lyrics they should be understandable outside of metal screaming and growls. its fine to do vocals without it being lyrics but it just seems like you're saying something

>>70337686
>i would mess with Reaktor or any other modular synth plugin for a while before getting a real semi modular.
Why? Aren't semi-modulars entry level for getting into full modular?

>>70367073
you're right. I have this weird idea that if I have the right sound "palette" it will be easier to finish it but I'll try to have something longer before posting again

>>70367079
at this stage the melodic skeleton is more important but the lyrics are "you were the worst of the ones who grew up"

Is there a manual for the Korg Legacy MS-20 anywhere? I couldn't find it on the website.

I need it for my korg ms-20 mini, cuz the 70's manual is shit and I remember the legacy plugin had presets that did some far out stuff like delays

>>70366730
>https://clyp.it/qxgmtjij
This is the gayest thing I've ever heard and I love it you 80's faggot.

Add some reverb to that synth and automate the portamento slightly so that it slides a bit more when it comes back into the top of the bar. I wouldn't make it any more piercing or saturated. It has a nice soft quality. You could modulate the filter cutoff with a long, 2bar lfo if you wanted to add some subtle movement in the sound. Or even a harmony/double when it comes back to the top of the bar. That's all I can think of.

https://clyp.it/qusqmli0

>tfw you predated chillwave by 2 years

found this on an old HDD, i was trying to sound like LCD soundsystem and went way off the mark

trying my hand at Detroit techno, still a bit shit at producing but I kinda like it. Might add an acidy bassline not sure

https://clyp.it/5rzlwk0o

what do you think of these effects for vocals? this isn't my song of course. the music i make is somewhere between rock and metal. i think the best way to describe it is somewhere between nirvana and in flames. but anyways, the vocals
https://clyp.it/fcnk3okv
i can't sing in real life, so i rely on the effects. i can't hold a tone but the quieter i sing, the better it sounds. i need a lot of input gain on the compressor to make it audible. i'm not really sure how to get out the sounds of the inhale etc, but right now i'm just concerned with: does it sound passable (for the type of music i make), or are the effects too obnoxious?

>>70337419
Yeah a bit of reverb on everything and slap an EQ on that chirpy synth, it's too bright for my tastes, instant fatigue.

>>70337732
Drums are really sick if a bit muddy, everything just needs some EQing and mixing I think.

>>70338701
Banger, bit busy but nice. Reminds me of Hotline Miami or DOOM ST.

>>70346053
This is really nice, I like the organy drone in it, where did you get the vocals? I'd add more percussion and beef the kicks up a bit maybe.

>>70348384
The weird reverb is cool. Bit basic though if you know what I mean.

>>70363411
Wacky ass drums are sweet, add some more tracks to it?

>>70366730
Add more voices to it and maybe porto or some shit

----------------------------------
Could I have some feedback on my beats?

https://clyp.it/5x2axqce
^ rough one will probably rework the bass

https://clyp.it/bx1xxzbl

https://clyp.it/dqgr5yol

cheers.

>>70367866
First one really reminds me of Portishead.

Last one is really nice.

>>70367821

High-pass the reverb so it's not acting on your low notes so much, unless you're going for a sort of vintage Chris Isaak sound, also you can put a gate on your vocal chain before the compressor to cut the inhale sounds - with you singing pretty quiet it'll need some fair tweaking so it doesn't also cut out parts of the vocal itself but that's generally how it's done.

>>70368009
i already had the reverb high passed but i added in another band filter before it too and it sounds a lot better. i also added a gate but my whisper was too close in volume to the inhale, but that'll just be something i have to work on by whispering louder. thanks!

>>70367389
love this. do you remember what synths you used?

>>70368297

I suspected the gate would be tricky - I'd just do some volume automation on the inhale sounds instead then, once you've comped the vocal into a complete track that you're otherwise happy with. Louder whispers might lose their character.

>>70367237
thank you, glad it sounds as gay as I tried to make it
I copied your entire response and will see how each separate edit works, really interested in seeing how the 2bar lfo affects it since I've never done that before
>>70367866
there's already some porto on it but perhaps it sounds better if it's more pronounced

you've got some nice stuff but in
>https://clyp.it/dqgr5yol
I think the main synth needs some eq work. remove some of the low-mid frequencies and do some fine-tuning in the high end. it should sound like pearls floating around in a clear stream but it's too screechy now

>>70368297
Never underestimate the power of simply automating the fader when stuff like gates and compressors don't work. All it takes is a small vocal fader ride (or even drawing it in with mouse) and your problem is gone. You could also simply cut the audio with the inhale and then add a quick unnoticeable fade-in.

>>70368677
No synths, just samples, I know what you mean though there is a hissy top end to it, I'll take a look at that thanks

hello I don't know how to make music

https://clyp.it/rd3wl2ft

>>70369302
my way of doing that kind of eq work is simply setting a 0,2 sec loop at the beginning of the sample and twiddling around until it feels I'm welcomed into the sound. it should feel "right" from the start
I tried to download the music and eq it but I couldn't find a download link at clyp, what gives?

https://soundcloud.com/bobodurango/reflections


thoughts?

>>70369306
honestly not that bad. i would say avoid having all of your instruments so low in pitch because it makes the track sound muddy. try improve the mixing as well and avoid clipping. and maybe change your kick to a shorter one because they seem to be over lapping at points

>>70369818
Fuck off

>>70369762
Didn't allow downloads, can EQ that channel rather than the whole track myself anyway?

>>70346264
This

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>>70337368
https://clyp.it/0u2x0yr5
r8

>>70371906
needs more anime and water droplets

>>70367866

70346053
https://clyp.it/rletxzw4

me here.

thanks a lot, do you mean the synth drone throughout or the horns towards the end?

I keep thinking I want to add more percussion but every time I try I find it detracts from what I've got rather than improving anything! and I recorded the vocals myself, always my favourite part of making a song

cheers

>https://clyp.it/5x2axqce
piano seems too far in the background, maybe too much reverb or not enough high frequency coming through

>https://clyp.it/bx1xxzbl
percussion could do with more presence, try layering your samples

>https://clyp.it/dqgr5yol
this is the best one, just maybe consider a chord change, or change the bass note every so often?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tba0p8YWiuc rate that shit,dudes

https://clyp.it/0u2x0yr5
r8

>>70372281

The underlying drone yeah, it's really nice and those vocals are impressive, I thought they were sampled.

I remixed the first one and it's a lot more balanced now and I might get a punchier snare for the second one and compress the drums a bit.

Thanks for your advice!

>>70372386
>>70372618
rate some other peoples first?

>>70368454
I think it was Arturia Mini V for the bass and NI Pro-53 for the chords, can't be sure though.

>>70371906
>>70372618
4/10

how am i doing? is this too faggy?

https://clyp.it/yiyjovcf

>>70373693
thank you senpai

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>>70360065
can you make a pack ?

How do I get my kick drums to really knock? They just sound puny and weak compared to the rest of the mix, especially when playing off a subwoofer.

>>70375087
compression and lowering the volume of other elements. sidechain helps too.

>>70373884
>https://clyp.it/yiyjovcf

Beginning is uninteresting and lost my attention almost immediately

>>70369306
>https://clyp.it/rd3wl2ft

Sounds like some early 2000 type shit, not it a good way tho.

>>70367866
>https://clyp.it/5x2axqce

Some sub wouldn't hurt

>https://clyp.it/dqgr5yol

Not enough change up to keep me intrigued, not bad though.

>>70367752
>https://clyp.it/5rzlwk0o

Vocals sound off key, the second half should have some sort of change up, maybe speed up the chords.

>>70367389
>https://clyp.it/qusqmli0

Ayy not bad

>>70366730
>https://clyp.it/qxgmtjij

Sounds dry add lots of reverb
>>70363406
>https://clyp.it/nkytid3d

Too much going on instrumentally, none of the sounds complement each other. The drums are pretty basic too. Not awful though.

>>70359868
>https://clyp.it/ww2fazko

loud doesn't mean professional
>>70355127
>https://clyp.it/iz4m2wmb


Not trap


>>70351601
>https://clyp.it/xgfveb5m

Compression is a sin

>>70348894
>https://clyp.it/lbon0iz0

ooo, pretty gud. Can't wait the drums.
A lot of you need to work on arrangement.

>>70375735
>https://clyp.it/ww2fazko

loud doesn't mean professional

I was comparing eq graphs it to professional ones (thug metro southside) made it look the same but I guess I gotta rethink listening back with fresh ears maybe your right care to add anything else?

are you an engineer you seem to know a lot?

>>70355127
ahh man make it a bit more interesting also clean out the lows of the other tracks so your bass can be more present

>>70376312
>I was comparing eq graphs it to professional ones (thug metro southside) made it look the same but I guess I gotta rethink listening back with fresh ears maybe your right care to add anything else?

Your mix isn't balanced too well, it needs some gain staging. Your Highend is ear piercing.

That arp gets boring, maybe switch it up in the second half, stretch out the notes or change the octave.Maybe add some chords towards the end too, more of a stylistic thing but vary it up a little. It gets monotonous.

>are you an engineer you seem to know a lot?

No but I will be in a few months

>>70376459
will take all these things into consideration for the nezxt one
about the boringness tho I kinda mirrored this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLcYFwMdn8

so hopefully if someone was over my song then it wouldn't be so boring

>No but I will be in a few months

sweet are you graduating from school?
are you going into a studio?
where u from??

>>70376589
>>70376589
>sweet are you graduating from school?
>are you going into a studio?
>where u from??

Kip switches up the arp a lot in that song.

I've just learned stuff from being around and having access to a studio.

>>70376780
>I've just learned stuff from being around and having access to a studio.

sweet dude you going to get paid for this gig? I wanna take this route but it is difficult! maybe I will go back to my local community college they have an audio course so it wont hurt to take it

>>70376865
>sweet dude you going to get paid for this gig? I wanna take this route but it is difficult! maybe I will go back to my local community college they have an audio course so it wont hurt to take it

Yeah this is my career choice. I'll be doing this for the rest of my life.

>>70376933
so how'd you get the gig?

>>70377010

Networking to local artists, going to local functions. I'm by no means a professional atm, but I'll be one.

>>70377034
hmmm I'm kinda a social retard so thats an obstical I will have to overcome

how did you get experience

so your a free lancer

>>70375735
>Beginning is uninteresting and lost my attention almost immediately

this is actually a track by Arca. he has produced for Kanye and Bjork.

>>70377125
>this is actually a track by Arca. he has produced for Kanye and Bjork.

Nice, I'm sure he has better songs. The mix is good.

>>70377107
>hmmm I'm kinda a social retard so thats an obstical I will have to overcome
>how did you get experience
>so your a free lancer

Reading a lot watching tutorials, same way anyone learns these days. A lot of stuff you pick up on the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjOdqZFvhY&t=8009s

>>70377344
yes yes I have been doing that

was my mix shit or does it seem as if there is something redeemable there

>>70377439

Not really. Just the high end. I'm sure you can find someone to rap over it too.

How do I make my own bangin' choons like you lads?

>>70377604
torrent a daw
find a free link of *genre of your choosing here* sample pack vol. 32
slap that shit on the playlist.

>>70377576
I know I'm being clingy right now but what kinda music you mix?

alsop do you think there are a lot of jobs I have been reading mixed things about having a steady income with this career

>>70377898

I mean like the bare basics, shit like scales and keys, like how to compose a good piece of music. Did you guys learn about music theory at school or learn it by playing an instrument?

>>70377937
https://clyp.it/t3lnfroy

Well this is what I'm working on right now, still have a lot of mixing to do.

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Jorman GOd - DEAD HOMIES


FOR my dead homies and your dead homies

>>70378004
ahh so you work with hip hop?

sounds good especially when everything comes in around 1 min

I've always thought that starting an internet music collective of producers/musicians would be cool. Maybe we could connect through skype and throw eachother parts of tracks, discuss ideas, and generally create music together.

>>70378305
going to create adicmusic.net and do some search engine optimization

>>70378231
Yeah, well these are all my personal shit.

https://clyp.it/1rumkzpe

>>70377996
press buttons until it sounds good to you

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Here's a little pop/r&b instrumental I'm working on for someone

https://clyp.it/voj2fvoh

>>70378413
daym homie how long have you been at it?

>>70378547

Like 8 months, non stop though.

Is there anyway to route maschine groups directly into another daws mixer instead of exporting the stems and loading each one into a track? That's what I'm basically doing right now, but it's time consuming and I'd rather run maschine as a VST within my daw.

>>70378589
wtf how'd you get that good also your about to get gigs?

im jealous

I hate how quantized everything sounds in FL Studio. I wish there were an option that would automatically differentiate the velocity and timing just a tiny bit. Instead of doing everything manually...

>>70378628

There is

>>70378615

I've basically lived behind my computer for those 8 months.

>>70378628
Ableton has that, it's called "grooves," it's pretty nice

>>70378663
>There is

What is it? All of this time, I've never known.

>>70378730
>What is it? All of this time, I've never known.

Well there's the quantization feature and swing meter. I believe there's an option to randomize in the the quantization menu.

>>70378822

It allows you to humanize the notes as well

>>70378663
what shit do you use to mix

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https://clyp.it/41gltxj4

https://clyp.it/g3a44fel

https://clyp.it/lbjvrwtr


https://clyp.it/b50bts0c

some hip hop some edm

tell me what u think

need feedback on them

>>70378879

Ozone 7, FL shit, I have decent headphones and monitors so those help. Going to have 2 consoles and protools next month.

>>70378889
not official
here's my official
>>70378022

>>70378822

Hm, I'm not seeing the option to randomize quantize.

>>70378907
so your in a legit studio?

an artist is picking you up or what?
do you have a soundcloud or twitter or somethin?

>>70378889
also first time posting clyp

>>70378822
>>70378953

Wow, I'm an idiot. I found it. Thank you!

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>>70378953
>Hm, I'm not seeing the option to randomize quantize.


>>70378957
Nah, building one. I work with a couple different studios in my area though.

I just send beats out to local artists that I've met at random events and stuff. I can post my Soundcloud in the soundcloud thread

>>70379169
Nah, building one. I work with a couple different studios in my area though.

I just send beats out to local artists that I've met at random events and stuff. I can post my Soundcloud in the soundcloud thread

nice nice yes post your soundcloud link it here

>>70379288
>nice nice yes post your soundcloud link it here

lol
https://soundcloud.com/trapbandikoot

>>70379169
Thanks!

>>70379323
why are you loling at me?

>>70379288
how'd you link up with studios?

had an intership last year but nothing came of it.

>>70379850
meant for you>>70379169

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>>70337368
an older beat I did that I recently remastered. Basic boom bap kind of thing, but with a little bit of trap 808 kind of shit
sample-based, don't normally rely so heavily on samples but was kinda going for that 90s boom bap sound in a way
I know it's pretty repetitive, but a guy is working on a rap for this right now so I left room for him to work

https://clyp.it/m0hljysm

>hip-hop
>boom bap
>trap
>samples
>808s
>sad/chill vibe

feedback would be cool

>>70379850
I couple musicians and they happened to know a guy who had a recording studio. He was throwing an open house/beat exchange kinda thing so I came out and hung out for a bit. We hit it off and I come through every now and then. Not really a professional studio desu. He has a space with sound proofing, a recording both and a console lol. My uncle also owned another studio but they went under and he had to close shop.

>>70379960
Classic example of something that starts out vaguely interesting and quickly becomes insufferable only because nothing else happens. The piano riff is cool for like ten seconds. It would probably remain fine if you had something else come in but as of now I'm listening to it for almost a minute thinking "alright man I get it."

I would either lower the volume of the piano track slightly so that something else can come in over the top at ~15 seconds OR rewrite your bass part and have it start doing something interesting underneath. The subby thing is boring imo. I know you've "left room for the rap" but the bass could be more interesting. I really think you should scrap the bass part and write something with more movement. Even just some different notes at times can help change the harmonic feel of the piano riff, making it feel less "samey". I wouldn't worry about the bass feeling too busy under the rap—we can handle a lot of bass movement without getting ear confused since we don't tend to listen to it as much as the higher stuff. It's still a mostly "felt" element so it can do a bit more. Also, the subby part you have isn't very strong on my computer speakers (and I have a subwoofer). It doesn't really hit me in the chest so much as it just feels like a cloudy, pointless vibration.

Last thing, the halting moment at ~55 is not nearly enough of a payoff or palette cleanser before returning to the head. Introduce a weird sound or rhythm to break up the sections, and when you come back introduce a new instrument in the second part. Don't come back exactly the same. Even a part that plays only once or at the top of the return can help renew interest and make me feel like new things are coming, as long as it's a new sound. As it is now, the track feels repetitive even in the short span of 40 seconds. I very quickly "get it" so I quickly become bored. That being said, I enjoy your balance of the "stupid" sample and the main piano thing is alright.