/classical/

Fucking cheater making the thread slightly prematurely.

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSoVLQ3SBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnLy31-Z7E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w433wbM14Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDU4qwaI80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oESzlizAafE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7jem-LgKgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9MU1T6uDXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s22fNJdICQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNpxyjYPVUg

>>70323119
OP is a control freak and needs to spam his dumb ideas and gay as fuck cartoon composers

>classical music
enjoy your cold mechanical scale wanking and EPIC sounds fedoras

>>70324362
For the last time, people who listen to JAZZ are the fedoras. We wear periwigs.

>>70324362
lemme guess, you prefer popular music where they dont realize they're scale wanking and so are unable to break out of it?

Protip: all music is made from scales, unless its purely percussion like some tradtional african drumming

>>70324522
because jazz is poor man's classical with more ooga booga

Rec obscure complex baroque pieces.

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>>70325631

>>70324537
OK WHAT SCALE IS THIS VIRGIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0fFzqX_Xgo

What's the most tangy composition ever?

>>70325933

Pretty obvious major scale going on there.

>>70326103
Anything from Gesualdo

>>70325933
>VIRGIN
can't be addressing me, but I'll answer anyway.
from the first 20 seconds, its D major.
I doubt it changes during the song as popular music tends to struggle with modulation

i think the last thread died,
can someone show me pieces that are intense and passionate with a fast tempo? I've been listening to many slower, melancholic pieces. I want to listen to something that is furious, anguished, pathetique, and agitato. Yes, I know Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata..

>>70326279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QT7ITv9Ecs

>>70326279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGPak1GQcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFNiKF2QBk

>>70326279
liszt totentanz

>>70326279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGx8TRWFVA

>>70326247
>D major
Absolute pitch?

>>70326395
Why is a child playing that?

>>70326396
Just checked it at the piano. The scale the accordion plays at the start outlines D Major. May not be accurate down to the cent, but it is roughly D major.

Not going to spend too much time analyzing shit pop music when there's still so much to learn from people who know what they're doing

Do i need to know music theory to understand or appreciate classical ?

>>70326458
Alright. I heard D major too. I always assume that people listen for it, since that's what i do. I'm shit at music theory though, i have been trying to compose some music, but i always use my instinctual musical senses instead of looking to form.

>>70326429
She was 22 when that was recorded.

Leaps better than most 22 year olds

>>70324033
These cartoons are pretty cute imo.....

>>70326507
>appreciate
no, but you will appreciate it more knowing whats going on.
>understand
yes

>>70326536
ITS NOT A CARTOON MOM ITS ANIME

>>70326523
trained since the age of 2

Should classical concerts try to attract younger audiences with laser light shows?

>>70326599
0/10

>>70326599
sure why not https://youtu.be/PFh7LAFel4w?t=115

>>70326599
Yes, degeneracy should be the norm

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>>70326693

jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e5bgRqdmxI

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Any guitarists here? What's the range of this beast?

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>>70326693
reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBIubgsfK8E

>>70327581
Traditional folk music is truly the greatest kind of music.

>>70327492
depends on the tuning

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>be 21
>spend 18 years of my life practising daily for 18+ hours
>win various competetions
>i am basically virtuoso
>chance to get some pussy with my skills
>go to barbeque
>locate few qties
>pull my violin out
>jump on table
>everybody is giving me the look
>suddenly chad comes in
>plays wonderwall on his 440 hz tuned guitar
>gets all the pussy

>>70326693
what a clusterfuck. I hope he got cancer after that

>>70328596
wait, you didn't know people are retards?

>>70328596
ah you fucked up, you need charisma and looks to get pussy, not classical instrument skills.

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>>70326693
I always wonder if this will be looked back in the future the same way we look back on the Rite of Spring. Like didn't a lot of people hate Rite of Spring when it came out?

>>70328820
IDK, everyone seems to like that video.

>>70328820
nah pretty much everyone loved it, got rave reviews. There was one performance where there was the "riot" but its likely caused by plants in the audience and made for marketing.

Steve Reich's "4 organs" caused a riot too when it war first performed. Now that everyone is used to Le Sacre, atonality and constant changes, simple repetition of diatonic chords caused them to loose their shit.

It would have to be something pretty intense to cause a riot these days.

like a piece made from the screams of naked people being tortured, and played like a keyboard with a guy with a bunch of knives and drills on large steel "keys"

>>70325631
been listening to a lot of Louis Marchand and
Giovan Ferrini recently - both excellent keyboard composers of opposing french and italian schools

not sure how obscure these are, but I've never seen them mentioned here

>>70328908
id riot too if someone played this shit, its like some youtube clickbait song

>like a piece made from the screams of naked people being tortured, and played like a keyboard with a guy with a bunch of knives and drills on large steel "keys"
sounds good

>>70327581
that was painful to listen to, until the aboriginals came in. but then the fat faggot had to keep adding his gay ass piano to them.

>>70329032
This Ferrini guy is definitely obscure as hell

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Post guaranteed secret pedophiles of classical music history

>>70328908
>>70329090
>like a piece made from the screams of naked people being tortured, and played like a keyboard with a guy with a bunch of knives and drills on large steel "keys"

oh my god, literally this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLNOhA7C2Q

>ywn see a great torture-based opera

>>70329179
Literally every other Jew and Italian

>>70324033
damn, op gettin bodied.

petzold

Alright boys what are some good operas. Enlighten me on the opera scene. I like Werther and Pagliacci rn but that's it

>>70330618

Wagner.

>>70330618
schubert

>get into Wagner video on youtube
>comments full of nazi /b/ tier shit
/pol/ was a mistake.

post some black composers

>>70330869

Beethoven, Mozart, the list goes on...

Will anyone ever compose music for the cello as good as Anna Magdalena Bach?

>>70330618
Strauss - Salome.
Bartok - Bluebeard's Castle
Mozart - Don Giovanni
Rossini - The barber of Sevile

>>70330618
Also Verdi Rigoletto

Essential Ravel pieces and recordings?

Please guys.

>>70331793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnKFIp7CahY

>>70328596
You should've hit back with some Smoke on the Water bro.

Franz Liszt was such a memester before he got old and cripplingly depressed.

When he composed Csardas Macabre he wrote, "May one write or listen to such a thing?" on the fucking cover.

>>70331956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsCn8lbRG3I

This chopin fugue needs to stop. pick literally any one of bach's fugues and it would be better than that lifeless garbage

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>>70329090
>played like a keyboard with a guy with a bunch of knives and drills on large steel "keys"

>>70331793
Gaspard de la nuit

>>70330618
debussy - pelleas et melisande

>>70332470
any of chopin's teenage works are shit, including the early nocturnes

>>70326279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjvTTfbpWjY

>>70331793
Introduction and Allegro

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>>70331793
Tharaud is god tier

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>>70325631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyy38weNZuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzhYpuj3zQQ&t=182s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoxyjQzcYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9SNwah9k8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbAEL1mpM-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ai80pyCYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Ftp4vVAmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WjynQaCCXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9ZeDQUXJYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bf0-LT6EZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYBrlAQi7vA

Don't you guys ever feel overwhelmed by the immense amount of music to listen and all the time you must waste listening and paying attention to a single piece just to catch up all the details?
You might very well die before discovering several life-changing pieces.

>>70333839
That may be true for the reddit crowd here who always spout the same shit over and over again

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All cello concertos are underrated.
What is your favorite cello concerto /classical/?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhN0RRlLhDg

How hard is this? What's its ABSRM grade?

#ProtectMozart

>>70334957
protect mozart
p r o t e c t m o z a r t
p e o t e z t m o z a l t
p e o t e z t m o z a l d
p e t e z o a l d
p e t z o l d
petzold

>>70335101
Really makes you think... Mozart was really an incarnation of mighty Petzold

>>70326599
Trans-Siberian Orchestra does that all ready.

>>70329179
Mahler

>>70327581
>tfw the fatso was worse than the abos
I unironically hope he died a few minutes after that performance.

>>70327581
I don't even know what xe/ xyr gender is?
>>70335541
No the
>blehha blehhah blehhaha
was definitely worse.

>>70335900
That was funny and goofy, at least. The fat guy is mediocrity condensed in a piece of shit, boring, unimaginative human being.

>>70334276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb_U_md4-wo

>>70334893
No one?

>>70334893
fuck, wrong link, I wanted to link the Menuet Antique:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBkGSdh8_VY

>>70336665
Why do you care for the grade ?
Just read through the sheet music and decide for yourself if you'll manage the technical problems.

>>70337040
I'm still a grade 2, I still can't tell a grade 7 piece from a grade 4 one.

>>70337133
Forget about the grades.
Listen to the piece while reading through the sheet music and ask yourself if you'll manage the more difficult parts with practice.
There is no harm if you try it.

>>70328908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saY10AWXLIY

>>70337201
I obviously can't do so, since I'm only a grade 2. Of course I don't have the education to assess how hard a piece is, and my technique is not even close to play something like that.
I know that grades are maybe a bit too arbitrary, but for a complete beginner they're a decent way to get in how much years you will be able to play something.
Usually I wouldn't ask, but I know that many times Ravel is exceptionally tricky to play on piano, way more than it seems. That's why I was asking.

>>70332470
Thats the whole point. Its an awful piece of music. OPs aesthetic seems to be post awful shit. cartoon composers, vocaloid Bach, etc. Its like he's 14

>>70332470
Come on, it was not even authorized for publishing by Chopin. Stop giving so much importance to a composition homework he did in his teenagehood.

>>70335163
Don't insult Petzold like that.

Chopin's fugue is a meme from the bogposting days.

>>70326279
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIKdCTmcTLs

>>70337265
no one?

>>70339968
petzold

>>70326279
but you apparently don't know Beethoven's appasionata

>>70326279
Sonata 1 (4th movement), 14 (3rd movement), 17 (1st and 3rd movement), 23 (1st and especially the 3rd movement, wich is the quintessential example of what you're asking for), 29 (all movements besides the 3rd one) and 32 (1st movement) are like that.

>>70327682

It truly is, if it's played by someone other than a pair of petrolsniffing bushmonkeys equipped with a pair of stick accompanied by a transgendered fat person playing the most generic equal temperament 440hz 4-chorded deriviative pop song.

give me some classical like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXJ4HZ3-248

>>70340288
have u tried through the fire and the flames by dragonforce?

>>70340342
instead of shaming people for liking things maybe you should try to be helpful

>>70340358
try verdi's dies irae or orff's o fortuna

>>70340358

>instead of shaming people for liking things

I thought that was the purpose of this general.

>>70340710
no, that's /daily/

>>70340732
really? i'd sincerely faster think they were all unabashed dilettante cultural tourists

>>70328908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_organ

>>70340358
>instead of shaming people for liking things maybe you should try to be helpful
Where do you think we are?

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUgLb6THC9U
>tfw

>>70334276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYikuVAUUTY

Does this video offer good advice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbE5sfYhxIk

>>70341387
i doubt it
'into le trashcan' would take far less than 10 minutes to say

>>70341387
nah, it's just basic music appreciation

>>70341359
>tfw your parents haven't minmaxed you
>tfw they let you waste your best years on videogames
I will never forgive them

>>70341359
>people in the comments saying how this is child cruelty
Like clockwork.
What is it with progressives and not wanting parents to teach their kids skills?

>>70341359
>tfw she's 4 and she's already playing Allegro Fiocco
>tfw she still doesn't know that she will be a milionaire in 15 years from now

The envy is real.

>>70341600

There are like 2 million children just like her in China alone, my friend.

>>70341679
Most Chinese people are extremely poor though to be fair

>>70341679
>tfw purebred French
>tfw I don't have to compete with millions of Chinese violinists because the public will take me seriously immediatly, on the basis that I'm french
Damn, I love racism.

>>70341745
No they wont Ahmed.

>>70341745
>purebred
>French

lmao

>>70341745
http://www.strawpoll.me/12058939/r

>>70341773
>>70341788
>shitting on the French classical tradition while adopting shitty /pol/ memes
You guys don't deserve classical music.

>>70341791
The answer was Italy but obviously Germany is better tahn France.

>>70341791
Which is the worst country for music out of the famous European countries? (Italy, Germany, Russia, UK and Spain I'd say)

>>70341814
anywhere is better than france
france might as well be lumped in with north africa

>>70341802
>French classical tradition
Other than degenerate impressionism I can't come up with anything of note.

>>70341824
Well UK obviously, though Spain is close..

>>70341851
The first great composer is French (Machaut)

>>70341851
That's because you're a filthy ignorant philistine.

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>>70341903
?

the first great composer was Hildegard von Bingen

>>70341851
Is Poulenc good enough for you?

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>>70341824

England.

>>70341940
lol

>>70341962
t. insecure frenchie

accept defeat
it should come easy for you

>>70341975
kek

>>70341940
>von Bingen
>great

>>70341851
What about Rameau and Lully?

>>70342012
>Machaut
>great

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>>70342012
>>70342035

I like em both.

>>70342035
embarrassing

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>>70342046

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>mfw plebs don't recognize Perotin as the first great composer

>>70342068
Haven't seen this image macro in a while.

>>70341387
1 hour a week for contemporary music sounds like a good idea. What's the best way to do this though?

which is the worst shithole for music?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12106758

http://www.strawpoll.me/12106758

>>70342198
I'd vote Spain but since I discovered Granados I'll have to go with the UK.

>>70342307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=310r2AOr0Lw

>>70341851
>Notre Dame school
>Franco-Flemish school
>French Baroque
>French Impressionism and Modernism

Way better than Shitalians thats for sure

>>70342536

Eh, I don't think that comparing the French, German and Italian tradition is worth it. They're all excellent (the best one in the worlds actually), and they're all accompanied by a mastery in all other arts (painting, architecture, sculpture, literature, poetry, etch.).
They're the apex of the Western civilization, there's no need to say that one is better than the other.

>>70342447
Emre is my favorite classical guitarist, desu.

>>70342092
>Perotinus
>not inferior to Leoninus

faggot tu est

>>70342536
>French Baroque
>better than Italian baroque
"no"

the others I can agree with, though

>>70342604
Germans are the best in music, Italians are the best in painting/sculpture, and French are second in both

how do i into opera? I'm listening to Puccini's "la boheme" on wqxr right now

>>70342673
wow this is autism if I ever saw it. did you even read the post?

>>70342687
see >>70330618

>>70342712
>buttmad frenchie projecting
Arguments about who's better/worse are necessary. English are the best in literature btw, with the French again in second.

Cimarosa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKrvcQKMkzE

so why is the UK so shit at music?

>>70342806
UK isn't that great in other art forms either. Dunno why, though

>>70342758
it must be hard for you to live with whatever mental condition you have. I'm so sorry.

>>70343051
Why are you so mad?

How do you train your ears to recognize key and pitch? I've tried youtube videos and some online test-type games where you type in the note that's played, but it gets me nowhere. I hear a note and have literally no idea what the hell it is

>>70343154
You can't.

>>70343051
project harder

>>70343154
Absolute pitch can't be trained, you better focus your efforts on relative pitch which is ultimately more important.

>>70343169
He can recognize scales by listening for sharps and flats, it takes some time but that skill can be developed (and it is, indeed developed by most classical musicians).
Also he can learn relative pitch, so as long as he can remember a note he can start transcribing shit. That's common, you don't need perfect pitch to do that.

>>70343169
>>70343203
shit really? why are there so many "pitch training exercises"? it is just scams?

I can hear intervals fine

>>70343249

pitch training isn't just absolute pitch.
absolute pitch is almost like a party trick. "oh, the car's horn is an F!". What matters is relative pitch.

>>70343249
Because they train relative pitch.
Taking the key from a song is pretty trivial as long as you have an instrument at your disposal, it's not a life-changing skill, it just saves some time at best.

>>70343249
>it is just scams?

If it is about learning absolute pitch, yes, they're all scams. There's lots of them and none of them work. Music pedagologists have tried to solve this problem for centuries, none of them succeded. It's literally their holy grail, so you can be sure that you won't find a solution on random internet sites.
Relative pitch instead can be trained to state of art regardless of your age.

>>70343308
>>70343311
>>70343331
interesting. I'm starting piano and training intervals online since I don't have a keyboard yet and kept coming across absolute-pitch training exercises. thanks.

kinda new to classical
what's some atmospheric, minimalistic material along the lines of satie / debussy / sakamoto that dives deeper into melancholia? sad, but not contrived

>>70343423
Who is Sakamoto?

>>70343423
Along the lines is a stretch but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8as_BN5h5YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK-KC2aQpcI

Is it OK that everything I know about music I learned from Robert Greenberg's Teaching Company courses?

>>70343456
ryuichi sakamoto; does a lot of film scores and downtempo piano pieces. good music for rainy days. (contemporary)
a favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0msWod8Ovc4

>>70343539
What does downtempo mean? Just slow tempo?

>>70343489
oh shit, you're right on my level. i love pärt.
actually, i have another similar request: what from the renaissance folder (or from the renaissance in general) captures the feel of pieces like summa or de profundis? thanks in advance xoxo

>>70343384

I know one thing you can do to try to develop something akin to absolute pitch that at the same time won't waste too much of your time
Carry around a tuning fork, bang it on stuff and try to hum and guess the note before you hear it. At least you will get better at recognizing a standard A.

>>70343589
Tuning often guitars will give you the ability to sing A, B, D, G and E at will. I don't have absolute pitch in the sense that I don't distinctively hear anything particular when hearing a particular pitch, but I can always sing mentally one of those notes and immediatly be able to recognize all the pitches immediatly.

Practicing scales on piano will give you the same effect. After the 1000th time you play the C major scale you will be able to sing it from memory while mantaining perfect intonation. Still not perfect pitch, but pretty close to it.

GOAT Fauré, manly Fauré:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3QV2ADmf1o

Torelli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMif-LPgs8g

>>70343539
>ryuichi sakamoto
Is he like a Nintendo guy or something?

>>70344284
I bet he does anime soundtracks.

>>70342758
French are further behind in literature than second. Germans, Russians and even Americans have made much greater contributions than the unoriginal French.

>>70344332
>unoriginal French
Duhhhh Mallarme fucking invented modern poetry. Fuck off.

>>70344323
I would assume so with a name like that.
Goes well with OPs cartoon picture.

>>70344354
> In that same year, he composed the score to the cult-classic anime film Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise.
Lol I was just joking but he actually does lol

>>70344351
>Mallarme
Quality quote from Mallarme -
"You don't make a poem with ideas, but with words."
Gets the old noodle doodlin'.

>>70344373
Japs just can not help but debase themselves.
Anime is a scourge upon this world.

>>70344447
they're just cartoons calm your autism

B Maj7 || F# Maj7 | E Maj7 || ???

Where do I go with this? I kinda want to change direction, but not sure where to go.

>>70344478
They're the most horrifyingly bad cartoons ever made, and yet it's still somehow a profitable industry.

>>70344506
just do a full on cluster chord C, C#, D, Eb, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, Bb, B

>>70344506
Shouldn't the F# be a dominant?

>>70344562
An F# dominant after the B Maj7 sounds utter horrific.

>>70344606
Well duh, you're supposed to resolve it.
But still it's the 5th degree of B maj7, shouldn't it have a minor 7th?
With a maj7 F# you have an E# which doesn't fit with the B chord.

>>70344684
I'm not really following a certain scale or mode, it's more like improv.

The B Maj7 || F# Maj7 | E Maj7 sounds good, but I'd like it to continue for one more bar and then change the direction into something else.

I was thinking of going A Maj9, but I'm not sure where that takes me.

>>70344606
>sounds utter horrific
Just do it and say you are post-post-post modernist.

>>70344842
>improv with chords in stead of set theory

{0, 1, 6} trichord or you're a pleb

i watch videos like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJmpgQg0SMg

and there's no beat. why is so much classical music like this? try to tap your foot to the rhythm of the song.

>>70345365
I did and it was fucking easy.

>>70345389
post a clip of it then, because you're lying

>>70345365
my god this is fucking awful

>>70345365
>there's no beat.
>conductor shown throughout the video keeping time
Simpleton.

>>70345528

are you kidding? it's a regular 4/4 throughout.

>>70345528
I think you just want to see my feet, pervert.

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@70345365
is this bait? there is literally a conductor right behind her that we can see

>>70345672
>@
>@
>@

BE GONE, FOUL FUCKING CRETIN

>>70345365
lmao at the /pol/ shit in the comments

>>70345705
try going to a Wagner video

>>70345635
>>70345672
HE'S CLEARLY FLUCTUATING

jesus christ, this is like trying to describe color to a blind person. if you start counting a rhythm and maintain it, she falls in and out of sync constantly. that's completely unacceptable in everything but classical music

>>70345735
why are you so dumb anon

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>>70345735
damn if its only acceptable in classical music, it really gets the neurons firing trying to come up with a reason why she does it while singing classical music

>>70345735
rubato exists in pop music too you fucking retard

>>70345914
pop music doesnt exist

>>70345929
Only in the sense that it's not real music.

>>70345987
what is real music

>>70345965
Fuck off faggot

>>70346002
The kind of music that this thread is about.

>>70346044
Fuck off faggot

>>70345646
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iOm6moCnNb

are you still unable to hear what i hear? i started the rhythm from the conductor. all i do is maintain it. there is no synchronization to the rhythm. the rhythm isn't maintained at all

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>>70346076

>>70346106
Fuck off faggot

>>70346099
Sounds fine to me, anon. I think you're imagining things.

>>70346099
why are you starting the beat syncopated

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>>70346121

>>70346186
Fuck off faggot

Can never get over how amazing Bach is desu lads

>>70346158
my beat is correct from where i started counting. that's how soon into the song the rhythm was broken. nearly immediately. another way to demonstrate it
>>70346145
you do this too

go here
http://www.virtualdrumming.com/drums/windows/travis-barker-drum.html
drum along to the song. hit the hi hat with x on the 16th notes, the bass drum at the start of every measure with b, and the snare on the 2 and 4 beat. that's the only way i can think of trying to get you to hear it

>>70346242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmm1kC_fAaU

>>70346245
>travis barker
you had a good thing going pal but now you've made it too obvious

>>70346224
>>70346229
Fuck off faggot

>>70346277
i don't even know who that is, i just know you guys don't have drums or software for it so i googled online drums

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>>70346289

>>70346386
Fuck off faggot

>>70342765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o_athU1mN0
He's like the less talented Galuppi

Is there a better country musically-wise on the 20th century than Russia/USSR?

>>70346242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0aOomtS3A

>>70343861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcYCPwmen4w
Second only to Corelli in terms of composing the concerti grossi imo

>>70346550

Most others.

>>70346550
Nope, anyone that says otherwise is baiting

>>70346550
Including all music? No.
Just classical? No again.

>>70346550
Maybe.

>>70346550
I don't know

>>70346550
Definitely the early 20th c. at least.

>>70346242
Childhood is praising Bach's music for its counterpoint, adulthood is realizing how much harder it is to make melodious passages work with the rigid harmonic structure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeY4a4C-Xuk

>>70346744
that's a cute little delusion you have been bred by academia to believe there, sweetie

>>70346801
you take that back right now

>>70346801
>been bred
Music for the feel of being bred in your boipucci?

>>70347003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh36PaE-Pf0

>>70326247
>>70326396
>>70326458
>>70326522
you mean B minor?

>>70347324

Just because theres minor chords doesn't mean it's minor.

Rec performances that made you want to give up playing.

>>70347459
nigguh
b minor is the tonic of that song
what the fuck is the key if not that

>>70347506
b minor is the relative minor of d major
they're basically the same scale

>>70343539
Always thought his piano pieces and film scores were to pop for my taste .
But his work with David Sylvian and YMO is godlike synthpop if you're into that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGnsH1ealM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1YkHJJi-tc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4VMLYnH_Dc

>>70347530
yeah ok kid

>>70347506
alright, after relistening, you're right.

>>70347530
They are still different keys.

>>70347489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_dzivO5h5o

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>>70347489
Carmignola everytime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cAje9tERGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsujpy9KKMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVvx-JTvj_g
This Onofri one is amazing too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcO5pSMFV6A

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You should all be listening to Völkisch traditionale musik instead of entartet atonal juden-compositions.

>>70347632
Listening to any violin performance would make me to give up playing it to be honest.

How the fuck do you learn pieces over 20 minutes. Longest piano piece I ever learned (self taught) was around 6ish and it took months.

>>70347846
Do you have decent (imaginative) visualization skills?

>>70347675
Folk music
>pleb, primitive
Classical music
>theoretical perfection
Popular music
>combining both towards intuitive or immersive perfection

>>70347967
Classical music already makes use of folk music though. In fact it did it first.

>>70347913

I'm not that bad.

>>70348174
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=3858.msg34936#msg34936

>>70347967

>Folk music
>pleb, primitive

That's where you're wrong, kiddo. Unconventional tonal systems, syncopations, polyrythms, modality...

>>70348572
you dont know what those buzzwords mean sorry

>>70348623

fite me irl bro and not from a screen see what happens meet me at mcdonalds

>>70348671
yeah, ok, you, what, bench the bar? fuckin kid

>>70348716

*teleports behind you*
pssh...

Is The WEll tempered Clavier a programmatic work that tells a story thru music?

>>70349065
yep

what is the wonderwall of classical music?

>>70349300

Canon in D.

>>>/lit/8969543

cool related thread I think

>>70349353
>Music alphabet only goes A-G, that is like not even half of the writing alphabet.
Great thread.

>>70349412
A-H

Where should I start with Wagner?

>>70349695
Tannhauser is a great place to start, IMO.

Petzold

>>70349695
really, anywhere

i started with the Ring but Tannhauser/Lohengrin/Meistersinger/Tristan are usually the go-to starters

Greatest works by Thomas Tallis, Byrd and Forberger?

Recently I discovered that vocal classical music is amazing.

I've been listening to such stuff as Erbarme dich, Ombra mai fu, O Quam Tristis sung by andreas scholl, or Lascia ch'io pianga

Any recommendations?

>>70350173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDRO-Bhs0s

why did classical music piqued during baroque era?

>>70350261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCMkrSb1k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYJ9aWTfndc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjhNYtwMF7U

>>70350261
I'm listening to the Lakme bell song right now.

>>70350394
petzold

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Can you guys help me find a classical piece or symphony that i once heard?

I remember it starting out with very dissonant sounding melodies in played in relatively quick speed on what i think was a flute, and then the strings kicking it bringing harmony to it all, and the whole thing featured lots of what i think was seagull sounds in the background.

The name of the composer sounded very eastern european i think. I think it's from the 2000s, but i'm not exactly sure.

Hey guys, anyone know any good piano music that uses a lot of extended harmony?
Very much like jazz, but not the hard/fast freestyle type.
Basically just piano music with very interesting chords

>>70350821
kapustin

>>70350821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OZBqcUZVmU

>>70350781
If it is relatively modern it's probably by a polish composer, maybe Lutosławski, Górecki, Penderecki. Is it this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF4LhlBBlZ0

NEW THREAD >>70350961

NEW THREAD >>70350961

NEW THREAD >>70350961

>>70350781
definitely not from the 2000s, but that kinda sounds like Rite of Spring by Stravinsky

>>70350956
Sadly none of these. It was something that i don't think is widely known. If it helps, i don't think they made any use of Pizzicato or Staccato on the strings, the strings mostly just played very harmonic, long chords, while brass played the more prominent loud accentuations.

The melody the flute plays basically goes up and down, if that makes sense

>>70350781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7NFuw8ORk4

>>70340157
Thanks for that list! I think I might start learning no. 23 after I get my current pieces performance ready.
>>70333456 this is also pretty great, Shostakovich is definitely one of the most fitting composers to my request.