This was a good album, but it wasn't the shape of punk to come at all. The genre this band played, Post-Hardcore, was just taken over completely by scenecore bands in the 00s.
I haven't heard about any good modern Post Hardcore albums that are influenced by great bands like Fugazi, NoMeansNo, Husker Du, At The Drive-In, etc etc
Prove me wrong, please
true, that album influenced nu metal instead
>>70314332
ironically i think this album influenced a lot of awful metalcore and pop punk scene bands more than anything else. it's really fucking good but it had a pretty bad influence. i always think of that paramore song that lifts from 'liberation frequency' and just kinda think, yup, way to go (altho i secretly enjoy paramore no homo)
anyways, mclusky was pretty gud
>scenecore is bad
can this meme just stop?
though the best band of the scene scene owes most of their style & lyrical themes to Refused
>>70314431
shut the fuck up and delet or i swear to god i will find where you live and hurt you
>>70314332
Kind of cheating since this is a recent project by Justin Trosper of Unwound
By the way, although I enjoy that album, modern post-hardcore took a lot of cues from Refused. It got much more metallic as a direct result of them and Glassjaw. At the Drive-In being overproduced on their last album didn't help things either.
But, yeah, here's some 2000-onwards shit I like (some of it admittedly scenecore):
>The Blood Brothers
>mclusky/Future of the Left
>The Fall of Troy
>Envy
>Hot Snakes (Drive Like Jehu members)
>Bear vs. Shark
>Made Out of Babies
>Gospel
>Shipping News
Scenecore seems to have finally died. Although I think they're overrated, more tasteful bands like La Dispute, Touche Amore and Cloud Nothings have taken over the genre in the 2010s, which I'm fine with.
Also I think people have gotten too autistic with genre labels - shit like mathcore should qualify as post-hardcore in the most literal sense, and definitely have a lot of cross-appeal: Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan, and Rolo Tomassi all have great releases in the 2000s.
>>70314476
Thanks, I will check those bands out
this is one of the only recent bands that i've had any interest in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7FFapXNqlY
https://youtu.be/A8qYbtRVNno?list=RDIwOPi8uyI2M
Will they come back /mu/ ?
>>70314431
This. Nothing wrong with scenecore.
I have Unwound next to Pierce The Veil on my iPhone, sue me.
Is there'a anymore stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4gcEXZrHr8
>listens to Drive Like Jehu once
>>70314843
As much as I love them, I don't think so. Dallas Green's solo project is pretty populair, Wade MacNeil is doing well with Gallows.
But still they've made some great things, their self-titled, old crows/young cardinals and the dogs blood ep are especially great
>>70314914
yeah but it's basically a totally different style of music
a handful bands must have turned post-hardcore and metalcore into an autonomous genre with almost no ties to both metal and hardcore punk, but without adopting a new term or something else to clearly distance itself from its roots
i'm not sure who started that shift though
were attack attack! the first post-hardcore band to use autotune?
>>70315132
mostly reminds me of hawthorne heights i think
>>70314373
What is some proto nu metal? What made fucks start rapping in metal
>>70315603
Run-D.M.C, Faith No More, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against the Machine and Korn's debut album
>>70315603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rap_rock#Early_development_.281980s.29
>>70315565
>i'm not sure who started that shift though
record labels
>>70315508
Crisis is still the shit